turbguy + 1,545 June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Paul-S said: In 2022 alone, due to high fuel prices and growth, renewables reduced ER- COT wholesale electricity market costs by about $11B (~$920M per month). This analysis estimates that renewables have saved the average residential household about $200 per year over the past five years. https://www.ideasmiths.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Impact-of-Renewables-in-ERCOT_FINAL.pdf PROOF! It's CHEAPER!! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,259 DM July 1, 2023 those pesky EV's.... Peak oil happened in 2019....get used to it Published: Thu, Jun 29, 2023 Author Maryelle Demongeot, Singapore Editor Noah Brenner China’s gasoline and gasoil apparent oil demand fell by 5.5% and 2.2% respectively in May from April, Energy Intelligence calculates, potentially indicating demand for road fuels has reached a post-Covid-19 plateauna’s and China 2023 oil demand growth seen slower on strong EV sales By Andrew Hayley June 20, 20235:40 AM MDTUpdated 11 days ago Oil and gas tanks are seen at an oil warehouse at a port in Zhuhai, China October 22, 2018. REUTERS/Aly Song/File Photo BEIJING, June 20 (Reuters) - China's 2023 crude oil demand is expected to grow less than previously expected, as strong demand for electric vehicles weighs on gasoline demand, an expert at China National Petroleum Corporation's (CNPC) research arm said on Tuesday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 July 2, 2023 There have been comments that flatulence of cows has been one of the major cause of global warming. Many alternative protein sources have been suggested to provide nutrients and energy. Below is the latest...... Rearing chicken by houses to have a) meat b) eggs c) defecation of chicken d) unwanted soil bugs removal e) esthetic value of free ranch healthy pet food of no antibiotic, no meat growth hormone etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,192 July 2, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 9:15 PM, turbguy said: PROOF! It's CHEAPER!! PROOF! YOU CANNOT READ! PROOF! Not ONE calculation... NOT ONE! Just stated "estimates." Apparently the installed wind power cost nothing and magically appeared even though it was paid for via government subsidy and by people out of state. It wasn't Texan's paying for this other than the NEW transmission lines which they also magically "forgot" to add in which were many many billions. Or add in the cost of all the newly required NG peaker plants since the wind is intermittent. But they are VERY happy to keep that NG cost part of NG instead of where it should be or at least 50% of said cost of said peaker plants should be added to wind power as otherwise they would install 50% more efficient NG plants. I just wasted my time as I wait for paint to dry before applying next coat while reading that JOKE. How about READING before copy pasting headlines. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,259 DM July 2, 2023 Wind, solar help Texas meet record power demand during heat wave The Texas power grid comfortably met record demand during this week's heat wave with abundant power supply from wind and solar plants,... . 1 day ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,545 July 2, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: PROOF! YOU CANNOT READ! PROOF! Not ONE calculation... NOT ONE! Just stated "estimates." Apparently the installed wind power cost nothing and magically appeared even though it was paid for via government subsidy and by people out of state. It wasn't Texan's paying for this other than the NEW transmission lines which they also magically "forgot" to add in which were many many billions. Or add in the cost of all the newly required NG peaker plants since the wind is intermittent. But they are VERY happy to keep that NG cost part of NG instead of where it should be or at least 50% of said cost of said peaker plants should be added to wind power as otherwise they would install 50% more efficient NG plants. I just wasted my time as I wait for paint to dry before applying next coat while reading that JOKE. How about READING before copy pasting headlines. The population in Texas has increased by more than 25% in the last 20 years. Texas power consumption has increased by about 50% in the last 20 years. In 2003, the state consumed 269.8 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity. In 2023, that number is expected to reach 399.5 billion kWh. Heck, Texas uses half again as much power as California! The construction of the infrastructure (e.g., transmission "stuff") to support this increase is INEVITABLE! The owners/investors of those renewable plants must be making a profit. The owners/investors of the NG plants must be making a profit. Electric rates in Texas have fluctuated over the last 20 years, but have generally trended upwards. The average residential electric rate in Texas was 9.5 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh) in 2003. By 2023, that number had increased to 13.0 cents per kWh. Inflation in the USA over 20 years has increased by about 45%. The increase in residential rates is LESS than that. On top of ALL of that, WHY BURN SOMETHING (and reject at least 60% of the resultant heat), WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO? WHY MAKE AN OPERATIONAL WASTE PRODUCT, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO? WHY CONSUME COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO? THEN, even though Texas ranks #1 for electric consumption, for emissions (2021), Texas RANKS AMAZINGLY AS FOLLOWS: 18th top in Sulfur Dioxide (lbs/MWh) 27th top in Nitrogen Oxide (lbs/MWh) 23rd top in Carbon Dioxide (lbs/MWh) That's amazing! How does Texas do that? Edited July 2, 2023 by turbguy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,324 RG July 5, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 5:13 AM, notsonice said: those pesky EV's.... Peak oil happened in 2019....get used to it Published: Thu, Jun 29, 2023 Author Maryelle Demongeot, Singapore Editor Noah Brenner China’s gasoline and gasoil apparent oil demand fell by 5.5% and 2.2% respectively in May from April, Energy Intelligence calculates, potentially indicating demand for road fuels has reached a post-Covid-19 plateauna’s and China 2023 oil demand growth seen slower on strong EV sales By Andrew Hayley June 20, 20235:40 AM MDTUpdated 11 days ago Oil and gas tanks are seen at an oil warehouse at a port in Zhuhai, China October 22, 2018. REUTERS/Aly Song/File Photo BEIJING, June 20 (Reuters) - China's 2023 crude oil demand is expected to grow less than previously expected, as strong demand for electric vehicles weighs on gasoline demand, an expert at China National Petroleum Corporation's (CNPC) research arm said on Tuesday. Due to XI’s disposition and world view all foreigners and their companies are leaving. This tends to slow the economy and fuel demand. Keep an eye on all commodities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,009 GE July 5, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 2:11 AM, specinho said: There have been comments that flatulence of cows has been one of the major cause of global warming. Many alternative protein sources have been suggested to provide nutrients and energy. Below is the latest...... Rearing chicken by houses to have a) meat b) eggs c) defecation of chicken d) unwanted soil bugs removal e) esthetic value of free ranch healthy pet food of no antibiotic, no meat growth hormone etc. In my city you can have 6 egg-laying hens but no roosters due to noise. You just have to take a short education class on how to set up a proper coop. Unfortunately, egg laying hens do not make for good meat other than for soup. They are very different than what is used for KFC. Chicken shit is not pretty nor of much value - and nothing is free, you have to feed the chickens more than they can find in your yard. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,192 July 5, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 7:31 AM, turbguy said: Electric rates in Texas have fluctuated over the last 20 years, but have generally trended upwards. The average residential electric rate in Texas was 9.5 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh) in 2003. By 2023, that number had increased to 13.0 cents per kWh. Inflation in the USA over 20 years has increased by about 45%. The increase in residential rates is LESS than that Honestly... do you even THINK about the garbage you type? 2003: NG price was over $8/mmbtu... 2023 NG $2~and change... NG Price is down ~70%... Cost of delivery etc for NG has risen by ~100%, and inflation is MUCH greater than 45%. All one has to do is look at price of housing, land, cars and they have all gone up by WELL over 100%. Electricity prices should have gone DOWN, not up. The fact electricity prices ROSE by ~50% displays how PATHETIC all that additional WIND "power" has been!!!! It is a MIRACLE Texas electricity prices have remained so low due to all the SHITTY wind addition. Good Grief, look at your own damned countries. Cost of electricity has skyrocketed over last two decades! It has increased by 200% for you guys! WAKE UP! Why? Refused to import dirt cheap coal/NG from more than one source and refused to build nuclear power while pretending Wind is helping... WAKE UP! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,192 July 6, 2023 2003: NG price was over $8/mmbtu... 2023 NG $2~and change... NG Price is down ~70%... Inflation is MUCH greater than 45%. All one has to do is look at price of housing, land, cars and they have all gone up by WELL over 100%. Electricity prices in TEXAS should have gone DOWN, not up. The fact electricity prices ROSE by ~50% displays how PATHETIC all that additional WIND "power" has been!!!! It is a MIRACLE Texas electricity prices have remained so low due to all the SHITTY wind addition. Good Grief, look at Europe's damned electricity cost. Cost of electricity has skyrocketed over last two decades! It has increased by 200% for them! Installed massive amounts of wind/solar is why! That costs $$$, Hella lots of money. Electricity prices went UP, not DOWN after installing wind/solar! WAKE UP! Wind SUCKS! WAKE UP! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: 2003: NG price was over $8/mmbtu... 2023 NG $2~and change... NG Price is down ~70%... Inflation is MUCH greater than 45%. All one has to do is look at price of housing, land, cars and they have all gone up by WELL over 100%. Electricity prices in TEXAS should have gone DOWN, not up. The fact electricity prices ROSE by ~50% displays how PATHETIC all that additional WIND "power" has been!!!! It is a MIRACLE Texas electricity prices have remained so low due to all the SHITTY wind addition. Good Grief, look at Europe's damned electricity cost. Cost of electricity has skyrocketed over last two decades! It has increased by 200% for them! Installed massive amounts of wind/solar is why! That costs $$$, Hella lots of money. Electricity prices went UP, not DOWN after installing wind/solar! WAKE UP! Wind SUCKS! WAKE UP! Prices doubling in 20 years is an inflation rate of 3.5%!!!! The price of natural gas last year was $9 Renewables help tame Texas electricity costs as heat wave swamps state Renewable energy is helping to keep electricity costs from skyrocketing in Texas as the state sweats beneath a heat dome. The big picture: The heat dome is toppling records. Multiple locations in Texas set monthly and all-time temperature highs last week. And with air conditioners humming relentlessly, the state hit a new record for electricity usage on June 27. Meanwhile, Texas' renewable energy production also climbed to new highs amid outages from a large number of fossil-fuel plants. Why it matters: As states across the U.S. take steps to decarbonize, the role and reliability of renewable power are being closely watched in Texas. The Lone Star State has the second largest renewable capacity in the country (after California) — and is prone to extreme temperatures that can strain the grid. So far this year, Texas’ renewables have passed the test. What they’re saying: "The market just kind of shrugged because there was so much wind and solar in the market ... It's another demonstration of the benefit for consumers that we see from wind and solar," says Doug Lewin, author of the Texas Energy and Power Newsletter. “Having solar provide during the hottest parts of the day is allowing our thermal [i.e. fossil fuel] fleet to not run itself into the ground as fast,” Josh Rhodes, a research scientist at the University of Texas at Austin, told Texas Monthly. By the numbers: The state's solar capacity has nearly tripled in the past three years, and there are thousands more megawatts now under development, as Texas Monthly notes. The Texas grid was producing a record 31 gigawatts of renewable power last Wednesday. And as a share of total power, renewables reached 35%-40% during peak usage last week, Lewin says. (For comparison, renewables provided about 25% of the state's power during 2022.) Power prices climbed from the typical area of around $30 per megawatt hour — but they mostly stayed below $50 throughout the week, says Lewin. "A few years ago, on a day like last Tuesday there would have been a very high likelihood that you would have seen prices in the $1,000s per megawatt hour area," he says. (In Texas' deregulated power market, occasional price spikes during high demand are a feature, not a bug.) "Renewables likely saved consumers a billion dollars or more last week alone," Lewin adds. Two key stats: Renewables reduced wholesale electricity costs in Texas by $11 billion in 2022, according to a recent paper that Rhodes authored. But it could have been more: Transmission congestion cost Texans nearly $3 billion last year. In other words, much of the excess solar power produced in high-generation areas like the south and west couldn't be moved to places like central Texas that would gobble it up if they could get their hands on it, says Michael Webber, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin. More transmission projects are in the works, he notes. What we're watching: Summer's just getting started — keep an eye on the Texas grid as the heat wave continues. Editor's note: This story has been corrected to state that the Texas grid was producing a record 31 gigawatts of renewable power on Wednesday June 28, rather than megawatts. Edited July 6, 2023 by Jay McKinsey 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 July 6, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 12:56 PM, TailingsPond said: In my city you can have 6 egg-laying hens but no roosters due to noise. You just have to take a short education class on how to set up a proper coop. Unfortunately, egg laying hens do not make for good meat other than for soup. They are very different than what is used for KFC. Chicken shit is not pretty nor of much value - and nothing is free, you have to feed the chickens more than they can find in your yard. I see. Wondering if you have hermaphrodite type of hens? Or, how do they... uhhh... lay eggs without 🐓? 🤔 They are likely omnivores. Somewhere small is producing pineapple chicken, i.e. chicken meat that tastes with mild pineapple fragrance... Must be feeding from the waste generated by pineapple farm and pineapple can food factory near the coop. Chicken used by KFC might have never reached the stage of having egg, right? They are fed for only three months to six before slaughtered with best wishes of a prayer, or some sort... 😯🙊 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 July 6, 2023 (edited) On a side note, number of rooster in the suburb is getting less and less with the rapid development of a country. They used to have rather accurate internal clock when i was young. They roosted at 5.30 a.m. or 6 a.m. daily, punctual like modern alarm clocks. With the development of town sheds and such, the sky has changed from having period of darkness to all night orangy, lit up probably by street lights, particularly those bright type on main highway or way. Upon waking up to pee, at 4a.m. when the sky supposed to be the darkest, roosters saw the sky has turned orangy, the usual colour around 5.30 to 6a.m. They hurried to roost. That was not too bad. If the roosters were awaken by barking of dogs or sound of cats at 2a.m., they saw the orangy sky, they roosted... And villagers woke up to find out the time...... On weekend when they do not need to work..... 😟 That's how village often smells curry chicken since the fall out of roosters with the right timing... Birds suffer the same confusion of timing. It was reported that there are few hundreds to thousands of species dissappeared daily... If you are wondering how rapidly extinction has been happening and why, this might be one. They are stressed up by the mind boggling sky. Groggy head, faul or no mood, no intimacy --------> No egg, no offspring ---------> extinct Besides that, losing of habitats, where they used to be able to find food easily, is another contributor. While looking at global warming, aiming at having alternative energy than burning, we overlooked many things that are obvious to us. We even decline to acknowledge when problems are highlighted to us. Being focus and specialization used to be something good. However, if our expertise causes us to turn blind on everything else outside of our routine realm, and often make poor decision out of ignrogant, it might be about time we review how far we have come and how much we have progressed or regressed. About time to halt every hasty decision, review from refreshing perspectives, and adjust the direction accordingly. Image shows how descrepancies between planning and execution might have created the unforesseable outcomes, especially by those who feel safer to copy established work of others. Edited July 6, 2023 by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,009 GE July 6, 2023 10 hours ago, specinho said: I see. Wondering if you have hermaphrodite type of hens? Or, how do they... uhhh... lay eggs without 🐓? 🤔 They are likely omnivores. Somewhere small is producing pineapple chicken, i.e. chicken meat that tastes with mild pineapple fragrance... Must be feeding from the waste generated by pineapple farm and pineapple can food factory near the coop. Chicken used by KFC might have never reached the stage of having egg, right? They are fed for only three months to six before slaughtered with best wishes of a prayer, or some sort... 😯🙊 They will lay unfertilized eggs. Some chickens are specifically bred for meat (broilers) and they grow fast and die young. Other chickens (layer hens) live until their egg production rate drops. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,477 DL July 7, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 10:04 PM, Jay McKinsey said: Prices doubling in 20 years is an inflation rate of 3.5%!!!! The price of natural gas last year was $9 Renewables help tame Texas electricity costs as heat wave swamps state Renewable energy is helping to keep electricity costs from skyrocketing in Texas as the state sweats beneath a heat dome. The big picture: The heat dome is toppling records. Multiple locations in Texas set monthly and all-time temperature highs last week. And with air conditioners humming relentlessly, the state hit a new record for electricity usage on June 27. Meanwhile, Texas' renewable energy production also climbed to new highs amid outages from a large number of fossil-fuel plants. Why it matters: As states across the U.S. take steps to decarbonize, the role and reliability of renewable power are being closely watched in Texas. The Lone Star State has the second largest renewable capacity in the country (after California) — and is prone to extreme temperatures that can strain the grid. So far this year, Texas’ renewables have passed the test. What they’re saying: "The market just kind of shrugged because there was so much wind and solar in the market ... It's another demonstration of the benefit for consumers that we see from wind and solar," says Doug Lewin, author of the Texas Energy and Power Newsletter. “Having solar provide during the hottest parts of the day is allowing our thermal [i.e. fossil fuel] fleet to not run itself into the ground as fast,” Josh Rhodes, a research scientist at the University of Texas at Austin, told Texas Monthly. By the numbers: The state's solar capacity has nearly tripled in the past three years, and there are thousands more megawatts now under development, as Texas Monthly notes. The Texas grid was producing a record 31 gigawatts of renewable power last Wednesday. And as a share of total power, renewables reached 35%-40% during peak usage last week, Lewin says. (For comparison, renewables provided about 25% of the state's power during 2022.) Power prices climbed from the typical area of around $30 per megawatt hour — but they mostly stayed below $50 throughout the week, says Lewin. "A few years ago, on a day like last Tuesday there would have been a very high likelihood that you would have seen prices in the $1,000s per megawatt hour area," he says. (In Texas' deregulated power market, occasional price spikes during high demand are a feature, not a bug.) "Renewables likely saved consumers a billion dollars or more last week alone," Lewin adds. Two key stats: Renewables reduced wholesale electricity costs in Texas by $11 billion in 2022, according to a recent paper that Rhodes authored. But it could have been more: Transmission congestion cost Texans nearly $3 billion last year. In other words, much of the excess solar power produced in high-generation areas like the south and west couldn't be moved to places like central Texas that would gobble it up if they could get their hands on it, says Michael Webber, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin. More transmission projects are in the works, he notes. What we're watching: Summer's just getting started — keep an eye on the Texas grid as the heat wave continues. Editor's note: This story has been corrected to state that the Texas grid was producing a record 31 gigawatts of renewable power on Wednesday June 28, rather than megawatts. So what proportion of electric energy is provided by renewables in Texas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: So what proportion of electric energy is provided by renewables in Texas? Any competent energy economist could easily ask google. But since I know you are not a competent energy economist I will google it for you: https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2022/02/08/ERCOT_Fact_Sheet.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,477 DL July 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: Any competent energy economist could easily ask google. But since I know you are not a competent energy economist I will google it for you: https://www.ercot.com/files/docs/2022/02/08/ERCOT_Fact_Sheet.pdf What happened to Solar? Did it get lost in the laundry? So fossil fuel energy accounts for over 60% of energy use in Texas. This is just ERCOT sector? No gas station or transport fuel calculations? Edited July 7, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 7, 2023 45 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: What happened to Solar? Did it get lost in the laundry? So fossil fuel energy accounts for over 60% of energy use in Texas. This is just ERCOT sector? No gas station or transport fuel calculations? So you asked about Electricity Yes it is ERCOT which handle 90% of Texas load. Solar just got started. It makes up almost all of the other category. No, FF is at or less than 60%. So Solar + Wind was 30% last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,259 DM July 7, 2023 coal is toast in China............economy in a recession and renewables are booming......means one thing a decline in coal CNN China is set to shatter its wind and solar target five years early, new report finds By Caolán Magee, CNN Updated 1:12 PM EDT, Thu June 29, 2023 Wind farm in Nanning in south China's Guangxi Zhuang autonomous region. Future Publishing/Future Publishing/Future Publishing via Getty Imag CNN — China is on track to double its wind and solar energy capacity and hit its 2030 clean energy targets five years early, a new report has found. The country is expected to produce 1,200 gigwatts of solar and wind power by 2025 if all prospective plants are built and commissioned, according to the study from the non profit Global Energy Monitor. Solar capacity in China is now greater than the rest of the world combined. Its onshore and offshore wind capacity has doubled since 2017, and is roughly equal to the combined total of the other top seven countries, according to the report. Dorothy Mei, project manager at Global Energy Monitor, said China’s surge in solar and wind capacity was “jaw-dropping.” The country’s renewable energy boom is the result of a combination of incentives and regulations, according to the report. China pledged in 2020 to become carbon neutral by 2060. But, while China may have become the global leader in renewable energy, the world’s biggest producer of planet-heating pollution is also ramping up coal production. Beijing swelters during hottest June day on record “China is making strides, but with coal still holding sway as the dominant power source, the country needs bolder advancements in energy storage and green technologies for a secure energy future,” Martin Weil, a researcher at Global Energy Monitor, said in a statement. Coal power permitting in China accelerated rapidly last year when new permits reached their highest level since 2015, according to a report by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air and the Global Energy Monitor. The amount of new coal projects permitted was equivalent to two large coal plants a week, the report found. The country turned to coal last year in large part because of devastating heat waves and drought, the worst in six decades, which saw a surging demand for power at the same time as hydropower capacity plunged as rivers ran dry. Pedestrians wait at an intersection as a news program report on Chinese President Xi Jinping's appearance at a US-led climate summit is seen on a giant screen in Beijing on April 23, 2021. Greg Baker/AFP/Getty Images China’s reliance on coal poses a significant challenge to global green energy targets, but the pace of wind and solar development is a positive sign, Byford Tsang, senior policy adviser at climate think tank E3G told CNN. “China is rapidly and successfully scaling up its deployment of renewable power and has become the largest investor into renewables globally. This is both a cause and consequence of rapidly falling costs of renewable energy as compared to coal power,” he said. Tsang hopes that relative cheapness of renewable energy will persuade China to kick its coal habit. “China’s ability to build and deploy homegrown, cost-competitive renewable energy at speed and scale further calls into question the economic viability of new coal projects into the future,” he added. In 2021, the IEA said that no new coal-fired power plants can be built, and no new oil and gas be developed, if the world is to limit warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, according to a report from ERG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 July 18, 2023 Found this while rereading <Guiness book of Amazing nature >. ( Click into it and enlarge).... It shows the largest meteor craters on earth and such... More than 90% are found at the magnetic pole axis i.e. hudson bay of the northern hemisphere and venezuela of the southern hemisphere. If, the concept relative attractivity on similar things found in the universe is true, then, meteors might have been attracted to these locations based on similar material composition? Any record shows if they have magnetic characteristic? If yes, Would their magnetic field be able to be used to generate electricity? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP July 18, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 9:11 AM, specinho said: There have been comments that flatulence of cows has been one of the major cause of global warming. Many alternative protein sources have been suggested to provide nutrients and energy. Climate change: Could daffodils be a solution to methane produced by cows? https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/65162912 This sounds like a good solution to reduce cow farts! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP July 18, 2023 Oil price going nowhere even after all the OPEC+ cuts and now even the IEA are reducing their oil demand forecast! Not looking good for oil IEA Cuts Oil Demand Growth Forecast For First Time This Year https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/IEA-Cuts-Oil-Demand-Growth-Forecast-For-First-Time-This-Year.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,259 DM August 18, 2023 Free electricity brought to you by the green revolution How many times did your coal fueled power company offer you free electricity????? https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/08/10/free-electricity-boost-for-uk-homes/ Free electricity boost for UK homes Octopus Energy and UK Power Networks have introduced the “Power-ups” programme, providing selected customers with complimentary electricity during surplus renewable energy periods Households in select areas of the South and East of England will soon be offered free electricity when renewable energy is abundant. Octopus Energy has joined forces with UK Power Networks to unveil the ‘Power-ups’ initiative – the offering aims to revolutionise how households consume energy by harnessing surplus power from sources like solar and wind. Participating customers will receive notifications ahead of time, informing them of periods when ‘power-ups’ can be activated, allowing them to enjoy cost-free electricity. Alex Schoch, Head of Flexibility at Octopus Energy Group, emphasised the significance of this endeavour, highlighting that the concept aligns with the company’s commitment to fostering demand flexibility. Sotiris Georgiopoulos, Director of Distribution System Operator at UK Power Networks, echoed these sentiments, emphasising the role of customer flexibility in accommodating growing volumes of renewable energy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, notsonice said: Free electricity brought to you by the green revolution How many times did your coal fueled power company offer you free electricity????? https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/08/10/free-electricity-boost-for-uk-homes/ Free electricity boost for UK homes Octopus Energy and UK Power Networks have introduced the “Power-ups” programme, providing selected customers with complimentary electricity during surplus renewable energy periods Households in select areas of the South and East of England will soon be offered free electricity when renewable energy is abundant. Octopus Energy has joined forces with UK Power Networks to unveil the ‘Power-ups’ initiative – the offering aims to revolutionise how households consume energy by harnessing surplus power from sources like solar and wind. Participating customers will receive notifications ahead of time, informing them of periods when ‘power-ups’ can be activated, allowing them to enjoy cost-free electricity. Alex Schoch, Head of Flexibility at Octopus Energy Group, emphasised the significance of this endeavour, highlighting that the concept aligns with the company’s commitment to fostering demand flexibility. Sotiris Georgiopoulos, Director of Distribution System Operator at UK Power Networks, echoed these sentiments, emphasising the role of customer flexibility in accommodating growing volumes of renewable energy. All this green energy making bills cheaper or non-existent, I bet EWS is jumping up and down as he reads it, stamping his feet and shaking his fist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,477 DL September 8, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 4:45 AM, Rob Plant said: All this green energy making bills cheaper or non-existent, I bet EWS is jumping up and down as he reads it, stamping his feet and shaking his fist. There is no free lunch. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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