ThunderBlade + 231 TB July 5, 2018 German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she would back a lowering of EU tariffs on U.S. car imports, responding to an offer from Washington to abandon threats to impose levies on European cars in return for concessions. Merkel said any such measures would require the European Union to also lower tariffs on cars imported from countries other than the United States, otherwise the plan would not be conform to World Trade Organization rules.“When we want to negotiate tariffs, on cars for example, we need a common European position and we are still working on it,” Merkel said. “I would be ready to support negotiations on reducing tariffs but we would not be able to do this only with the U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD July 5, 2018 No tariffs, no barriers, no subsidies ! That is the way to go ! Business must be finally global... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP July 5, 2018 That was quick, but it doesn't mean win or lose..It could be just goodwill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpZelabal + 63 jj July 5, 2018 Merkel is worried about Germany, as she should be. But American car manufacturers can pick up the slack. All she has to do is lower the tariffs on U.S. cars Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP July 5, 2018 Why not? How many European would buy an American car in the first place. Ford, GM, Chrysler...are you kidding? The only reason they would, the poor ones, if they are much cheaper than comparable Euro cars. Those who have visited there recently saw their beautiful cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainman + 263 July 5, 2018 European Mustang and Corvette fans will like this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderBlade + 231 TB July 5, 2018 Current U.S. import tariff rates on cars are 2.5 percent and on trucks 25 percent. The EU has a 10 percent levy on car imports from the United States. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD July 5, 2018 Merkel is No 1 leader in Europe, same as Germany in EU.So simple. Strongest are choosing rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG July 5, 2018 That 10% EU duty is aimed at Japanese, Korean, and lately Chinese autos, not big American road cruisers, which have limited appeal and limited buyers in the EU. First, they use much more gas, and second, they are impossible to park in town. It is a bit like the market for the Rolls, also very limited. Meanwhile, the Koreans are a serious market competitor to VW, and VW is a vast manufacturer all through Europe (I recall they even bought the Czech Skoda), and for that size company (and don't forget Fiat and their production of small cars), the Europeans want to create some wall to an onslaught of Korean models, built with much lower cost labor. So there is the real dilemma: if that duty for the US cars is off, then it is also off for the Asians. And the Asians remain formidable competitors. Given the number of jobs involved, no European government is going to go to a zero-tariff position. And that's the rub. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjomejag 0 RJ July 6, 2018 "German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she would back a lowering of EU tariffs on U.S. car imports" and this is a very reasonable position; but the result would be more German demand satisfied from many other auto manufacturing countries, as their duty would be similarly reduced. The American car sales are not limited by the 10% duty, but by the lack of fit to the European market. The accompanying reduction in US prices would be an incentive to increase the US purchases of cheaper German cars, and more significantly undercut the US production. Keep in mind that the US car producers have indicated they plan to phase out car production anyways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG July 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, mthebold said: Automation is slowly picking away the labor component of vehicle cost. There may be a point where energy, raw material, infrastructure, tax, and regulatory costs are the deciding factor - and in those collectively, I'd bet the US has an advantage over Asia. Against Europe, I'd bet we have an advantage in every category. That being the case, is it possible automakers would eventually start manufacturing small cars in the US for export to foreign markets? Alternatively, is it possible more globally-sold designs would be manufactured in the US, just as BMW already does? Probably not. For that to work, you would have to dump a ton of Regulations set in concrete by bureaucrats. For example, cars sold in the USA require "passive restraints" [known as air bags] and Tire Pressure Monitor ["TPM"] systems, where there is some little transmitter inside the wheel that sends a radio signal to the computers stuck in the dash, and a back-up camera, and anybody who cannot back up without a silly back-up camera is totally incompetent. Builders here for markets outside the US would thus either have to add in all the gadgets, at some expense, or build two separate fleets of cars, and be unable to cross-sell from the inventory. That gets expensive fast. Donald's man in Transportation would have to use a buzz saw to chop away at the CFR's, and fire buildings full of bureaucrats, and the odds of all that is pretty much zero. Welcome to America, bureaucracy style. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG July 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, mthebold said: Wow. I didn't know backup cameras were mandatory; sounds like the sort of thing that may have been lucrative for a handful of political donors. As for the expense, the vast majority of your car components would still be identical, and final assembly already handles a myriad of options. Would it not be cheaper to have one plant with a slightly-more-complex final assembly than to have two completely separate plants? I dunno. Outside my area of expertise. Just guessing, if you have these internals including ECU modules and there are no inputs from missing sensors, will that car run? Probably not. Cars have gotten seriously complex. The easier solution is for some intelligent Secretary of Transportation to eliminate the CFRs, that is what I would have done, simplify it all, but hey, I did not take that job, the Congressman from Illinois did, so there you go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites