Sefko Trafikant + 35 ST July 5, 2018 India is about to launch a tender for 100 gigawatts of solar power, 10 times the size of the current largest solar tender in the world – another Indian project scheduled to open for bids later this month. I really doubt that the country has neither the infrastructure nor the energy demand to warrant installing so much solar capacity 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ja’Nako Bezze + 36 JB July 5, 2018 India's government grasping. They promised this before, few times Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT July 5, 2018 This report published in may 2017 offers a lot of detail so you may want to start with it. http://ieefa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/NTPC-as-a-Force-in-Indian-Electricity-Transition_May-20171.pdf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sefko Trafikant + 35 ST July 5, 2018 Just now, Joanna said: This report published in may 2017 offers a lot of detail so you may want to start with it. http://ieefa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/NTPC-as-a-Force-in-Indian-Electricity-Transition_May-20171.pdf cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL July 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sefko Trafikant said: India is about to launch a tender for 100 gigawatts of solar power, 10 times the size of the current largest solar tender in the world – another Indian project scheduled to open for bids later this month. I really doubt that the country has neither the infrastructure nor the energy demand to warrant installing so much solar capacity Why aren't tracts of available, uninhabited land such as deserts covered in solar panels? India should definitely do it. Can't they sell the surplus? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sefko Trafikant + 35 ST July 5, 2018 Just now, 李伟王芳 said: Why aren't tracts of available, uninhabited land such as deserts covered in solar panels? India should definitely do it. Can't they sell the surplus? China has done that and continues to do more. Australia as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW July 5, 2018 Some stats here on Indian electrical sector. 344 GW of capacity 1433 TWH annual demand. 100GW could be integrated into that. 100GW would generate about 180 TWH / 12.5% of power. Also the sector is rapidly growing so 100GW will be integrated into a sector somewhat bigger than 344GW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HermitMunster + 146 July 5, 2018 India is growing 7.5% in '18, and they will be using cheap coal to help get them there. https://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/despite-paris-agreement-china-india-continue-build-coal-plants/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajan Bosnjacki + 27 AB July 5, 2018 Just now, NickW said: Some stats here on Indian electrical sector. 344 GW of capacity 1433 TWH annual demand. 100GW could be integrated into that. 100GW would generate about 180 TWH / 12.5% of power. Also the sector is rapidly growing so 100GW will be integrated into a sector somewhat bigger than 344GW. 240 million Indians have no electricity. Maybe the government should help them, instead of selling it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, 李伟王芳 said: Why aren't tracts of available, uninhabited land such as deserts covered in solar panels? India should definitely do it. Can't they sell the surplus? They are deploying floating panels on canals. There are a number of benefits - the panels are more efficient due to the cooling effect and the canals lose less water to evaporation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_Solar_Power_Project 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL July 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sefko Trafikant said: India is about to launch a tender for 100 gigawatts of solar power, 10 times the size of the current largest solar tender in the world – another Indian project scheduled to open for bids later this month. I really doubt that the country has neither the infrastructure nor the energy demand to warrant installing so much solar capacity At $30.00 per kilowatt installed it makes no sense to even continue firing any coal or oil or even natural gas turbines. Any entity or government that continues is just her politicians padding their bank accounts and screwing their populace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW July 5, 2018 Just now, Ajan Bosnjacki said: 240 million Indians have no electricity. Maybe the government should help them, instead of selling it Because they need to build a transmission network in the rural areas however batteries and solar may offer the potential to provide power without the expense of transmission lines. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sefko Trafikant + 35 ST July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, 李伟王芳 said: At $30.00 per kilowatt installed it makes no sense to even continue firing any coal or oil or even natural gas turbines. Any entity or government that continues is just her politicians padding their bank accounts and screwing their populace. I read somewhere that solar and wind in India are 50% cheaper than coal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT July 5, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NickW said: Because they need to build a transmission network in the rural areas however batteries and solar may offer the potential to provide power without the expense of transmission lines. India needs improved distribution system and most of all it needs power prices that are affordable for the 800 million Indians who are not part of the affluent middle and wealthier classes. If you cant afford fridge, solar means nothing Edited July 5, 2018 by Meanwhile Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Meanwhile said: India needs improved distribution system and most of all it needs power prices that are affordable for the 800 million Indians who are not part of the affluent middle and wealthier classes. If you cant afford fridge, solar means nothing Thats a political issue about redistribution of wealth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ja’Nako Bezze + 36 JB July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Meanwhile said: India needs improved distribution system and most of all it needs power prices that are affordable for the 800 million Indians who are not part of the affluent middle and wealthier classes. If you cant afford fridge, solar means nothing India indeed has amongst the cheapest power and renewables are contributing to these low costs but the fact remains that even these cheap prices are beyond the reach of many. $0.10 per kwh and a $2 monthly connection fee but in many rural areas income is around $0.55 per hour. Forget a fridge 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ja’Nako Bezze + 36 JB July 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, 李伟王芳 said: Why aren't tracts of available, uninhabited land such as deserts covered in solar panels? India should definitely do it. Can't they sell the surplus? Problems are hopelessly overloaded and chaotic grids Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 July 5, 2018 (edited) Is biogas being fully utilized in rural India? It is not complex and can be done on small or large scale. Simple home built plans are available. Biogas https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-TLMeHsKYBCirxS0vbqMGHpU2SmyLuCc7bqp8eYXVM/edit Home scale https://www.motherearthnews.com/renewable-energy/other-renewables/biogas-generator-zm0z14aszrob#axzz3AnX2ETNm Edited July 5, 2018 by ronwagn added reference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bharath + 12 BK July 6, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sefko Trafikant said: India is about to launch a tender for 100 gigawatts of solar power, 10 times the size of the current largest solar tender in the world – another Indian project scheduled to open for bids later this month. I really doubt that the country has neither the infrastructure nor the energy demand to warrant installing so much solar capacity Actually thermal power companies are lobbying to stop the solar power auctions as there is no demand for additional energy but it will hit the coal based thermal power companies very hard as govt may not buy the power from these thermal power plants. They have closed many coal plants in last 4 years. Coming to infra, we dont have that infra, but we have to import solar panels from china/other countries. What my guess is: Modi promised electricity for all by 2022, Modi is expanding the solar power capacity very vastly to achieve this goal. Govt is planning to convert most of the public buses to run on electricity, for this they need more energy which they want it from solar. Solar power is dead cheap compare to coal based power . So obviously govt is trying to take advantage of it. Edited July 6, 2018 by Bharath 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMR + 6 MA July 6, 2018 India is preparing for 100% electric vehicle mobility by 2030 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markslawson + 1,058 ML July 7, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 2:13 AM, Sefko Trafikant said: China has done that and continues to do more. Australia as well To correct you on that point, Australia may have a few panels out in the desert but those installations are quite small compared with the overall supply requirements. Australia's deserts are far removed from the urban centres. It has a lot of rooftop installations. I know less about China but I do know that the vast bulk of the country's renewable energy is hydro. Only a few per cent comes from wind and solar, with the bulk of that coming from wind. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites