Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ August 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: I don't think this is a thought they arrived at in independent fashion. Are you from Denmark? If you are, you never had much business with Russia to start with. I am Danish, yes. But higher commodity prices effect Denmark as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, NickW said: Waste of time arguing with him . He is hardwired into the Putler / Russian state propaganda Earlier he said NOX (NO2 & NO) is harmless, probably because Putler said so. Mobilising T62's and 70 year old Grandads doesn't seem to ring any bells of desperation either I am not aware of either "Putler" nor "Russian state propaganda" having an official opinion about NOx. Russia used to simply ape all the European environmental regs. They are free from those shackles now and may turn on their brains. Or not. Also, there are a lot more NOx-es than just two https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_oxide#Charge-neutral There is no better way than burning harder to get rid of them all. Russia did not mobilize any 70-year-olds. Ukraine did. I could send you a video of a bunch of elderly Ukrainian POWs, but it probably would not do you any good without the English text? You are welcome to send me any evidence of elderly Russian POWs. Ukrainian voice is OK. Actually, Russia did not mobilize at all. They are forming reinforcements out of volunteers only so far. I don't know how old they are, but unlikely 70. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: I am Danish, yes. But higher commodity prices effect Denmark as well. Well, easy for you to talk about severing a highly beneficial business relationship you never had Russians are highly disappointed in you for the way you handled your Covid-infected mink. Russia developed a vaccine for mink Covid instead, and all of their mink lived. Just an example of something else you missed out on, due to your holier-than-thou attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Am I on an alien planet? I actually think you are Where did you come from really? Mr Spock says he knows you Edited August 16, 2022 by Rob Plant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Well, easy for you to talk about severing a highly beneficial business relationship you never had Russians are highly disappointed in you for the way you handled your Covid-infected mink. Russia developed a vaccine for mink Covid instead, and all of their mink lived. Just an example of something else you missed out on, due to your holier-than-thou attitude. Is that the Sputnik vaccine they stole from AZ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Michael Sanches said: Why did so many Russians immigrate to bloodthirsty US from benevolent Russia? Why did the USSR embargo emigration in 1952 to stop the huge outflow? Why did even Communist Hollywood, when they made movies involving Russian tourists, always have the Russians bring empty suitcases so they could take as much toilet paper back with them. Have Russians started using toilet paper, yet? Why did the Germans, when possible, surrender to the bloodthirsty US in WW2, instead of benevolent Russia? Because the US was a much richer place. Now, the difference is less, and correspondingly less is the attraction to do so. As soon as USSR allowed emigration, you stopped accepting any. Last were the Jews, around 1994. The Jackson-Vanick amendment sanctioning USSR for not letting the Jewry leave was only cancelled in 2012, only to be replaced by the Magnitsky Act. So much for cooperative behavior with US. This is the first time I hear about Russian tourists bringing toilet paper. USSR had toilet paper, however crappy. They would bring items most useful for resale. American-branded jeans, perhaps? Small consumer electronic items. Not much to be made in reselling toilet paper. Because WWII USA was an apartheid state, which often treated German POWs better than their own "colored" serviceman. The Nazis sensed kindred spirits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: Is that the Sputnik vaccine they stole from AZ? It uses the same toolkit, yes. It allows making new vaccine variations very fast. They didn't steal anything, but had a cooperation agreement since before Covid. Having said that, Sputnik is the more sophisticated one of the two. It uses two adenovirus vectors, Adv5 and Adv26. AZ uses just one. You can view Sputnik as a shot of AZ and a shot of Johnson & Johnson. Note that the clunky Western / WHO rules did not approve even the original Sputnik yet. Although they do have versions for the latest Omicron or whatnot variants, on which the original batch of vaccines has no effect anymore. Edited August 16, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ August 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Well, easy for you to talk about severing a highly beneficial business relationship you never had ??? Danish companies had gas purchase agreements with Gazprom. and higher gas prices hurt Denmark as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: I actually think you are Where did you come from really? Mr Spock says he knows you Different Russian, but been to Alameda, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: ??? Danish companies had gas purchase agreements with Gazprom. and higher gas prices hurt Denmark as well. From the horses' mouth (https://eng.nordsoefonden.dk/about/oil-and-gas-in-denmark/) According to the Danish Energy Agency, Denmark is expected to remain self-sufficient in natural gas until at least 2042 - with the exception of the years 2021 to 2023, where the redevelopment of Denmark's largest gas field Tyra is under way, resulting in the temporary shutdown of a large part of the gas production. Bummer. Edited August 16, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ August 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: From the horses' mouth (https://eng.nordsoefonden.dk/about/oil-and-gas-in-denmark/) According to the Danish Energy Agency, Denmark is expected to remain self-sufficient in natural gas until at least 2042 - with the exception of the years 2021 to 2023, where the redevelopment of Denmark's largest gas field Tyra is under way, resulting in the temporary shutdown of a large part of the gas production. Bummer. ? Gazprom cuts gas supply to Orsted and Shell Energy | Reuters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: ? Gazprom cuts gas supply to Orsted and Shell Energy | Reuters What exactly this paying in rubles scheme constitutes has been highly negotiable. At the time this article was written, they probably did get their gas through a German intermediary who agreed to the gas-for-rubles scheme. The article actually said as much, "The flow of natural gas to Denmark via Germany remained steady on Wednesday, data from Danish system operator Energinet showed" A lot has changed since. Specifically, Gazprom Germania, the most likely such intermediary, has been nationalized by Germany and consequently put on the Russian sanctioned entity list. You have to look at the current inflows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: Is that the Sputnik vaccine they stole from AZ? Nobody to steal from when you are first https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-vaccine-ani-idUSKBN2BN0MY Again 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, NickW said: Most of the issues with Javelins has been due to inexperienced troops trying to use them - usually at too short range where the warheads haven't time to arm. Fortunately loads of Ukrainian troops were trained last winter before Russia invaded, many in the UK and that included using NLAW. The Ukrainian troops you trained last winter are overwhelmingly likely to be dead today. This statement kinda defeats the purpose of NATO claiming to be a peaceful organization that meant Russia no harm, ain't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: The Ukrainian troops you trained last winter are overwhelmingly likely to be dead today. This statement kinda defeats the purpose of NATO claiming to be a peaceful organization that meant Russia no harm, ain't it? Remind us all again of who started this war after claiming it absolutely wasnt ever going to invade Ukraine territory and Russia was just doing military exercises next to Ukraine's border. Then of course after blatant lies Russia invades. Just who is the aggressor here? NATO or Russia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Nobody to steal from when you are first https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-vaccine-ani-idUSKBN2BN0MY Again How is that first? You use the basis of the AZ vaccine to develop Sputnik after stealing the research and then come up with a vaccine for Mink Well done it must have taken all of Russia's scientists to come up with that. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/did-russia-steal-astrazeneca-covid-jab-formula-this-report-suggests-so-101633955387291.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Rob Plant said: Remind us all again of who started this war after claiming it absolutely wasnt ever going to invade Ukraine territory and Russia was just doing military exercises next to Ukraine's border. Then of course after blatant lies Russia invades. Just who is the aggressor here? NATO or Russia? You tell me. Before you bankrolled an unconstitutional coup in Ukraine, it was a neutral country and everything was working fine for them. After 2014, it passed a constitutional amendment stating that it absolutely must pursue NATO membership at any cost, and you've been pumping it full of weapons and instructors ever since. Better now than later. Russia is under no obligation to truthfully report any of its advanced plans to you. One thing is certain. This is not going to be the last time you are going to be surprised by them. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Before you bankrolled an unconstitutional coup in Ukraine Did we? Did we really? Oh please, where is your proof? Why was Viktor Yanukovych removed? The Verkhovna Rada Committee voted on February 22, 2014 MPs voted to "remove Viktor Yanukovych from the post of president of Ukraine" on the grounds that he was unable to fulfill his duties and to hold early presidential elections on May 25. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: Russia is under no obligation to truthfully report any of its advanced plans to you. One thing is certain. This is not going to be the last time you are going to be surprised by them. No and it never has! Oh and more threats, nice! Just like Pu threatening the use of nuclear weapons again because his war isnt going to plan! Boo hoo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: How is that first? You use the basis of the AZ vaccine to develop Sputnik after stealing the research and then come up with a vaccine for Mink Well done it must have taken all of Russia's scientists to come up with that. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/did-russia-steal-astrazeneca-covid-jab-formula-this-report-suggests-so-101633955387291.html First approved vaccine for human Covid, first for mink and other small furry animals. They had an Ebola vaccine using the same toolkit years ago, but it got snubbed in favor of an "established vendor" just like this time. This incredibly dorky article actually contradicts itself. Sputnik uses a human adenovirus, and AZ uses one from a chimp. The common part between them is that you can use some kind of adenovirus (which causes a common cold) to carry pieces of some other virus? That much is published research, and then some. Any sufficiently advanced biotech organization can start their own Adv-vector project knowing that. The Sputnik one simply turned out better than most, including AZ. Live with it. Lots of money has been made on Covid medicines. The parties involved did a lot of smearing of each other, with some degree of success. This particular smear was apparently only good enough for Bondiana of Bollywood. What kind of blueprint were they supposed to steal from AZ by means of hacking? What about a human spy? Some special secret vial? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: No and it never has! Oh and more threats, nice! Just like Pu threatening the use of nuclear weapons again because his war isnt going to plan! Boo hoo! Where is the additional threat? Facts only. Pu only said you'll get nuked if you get directly involved in the fight. This is a fact. Because you have an unsurmountable numerical superiority otherwise. Or rather, it is the US who does, so Pu might actually spare you and proceed to nuking Washington. He's not going to be nuking Ukraine, no matter what. Does this make it any easier now? Are you privy to Pu's actual war plans? Do tell. Edited August 16, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP August 16, 2022 This is pointless Nick was right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 August 16, 2022 (edited) Sorry I think you still dont really understand what you have done by freezing russian currency Reserves. Western Powers simply show all over the emerging world that currency Reserves are not real money. This was probably much bigger shock for anyone Than Putin invasion. Maybe one Day you will understand that changed the world in fundamentalnal way. Simply USA made the biggest ever move to global dedolarization by themselves. Sorry it was really not a Smart move even if you think now it was. Edited August 16, 2022 by Tomasz 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: Did we? Did we really? Oh please, where is your proof? Why was Viktor Yanukovych removed? The Verkhovna Rada Committee voted on February 22, 2014 MPs voted to "remove Viktor Yanukovych from the post of president of Ukraine" on the grounds that he was unable to fulfill his duties and to hold early presidential elections on May 25. They really didn't. Ukraine has a constitutional impeachment procedure, which requires a 75% supermajority vote. They did not have a quorum for that. They probably did manage some kind of simple majority vote, by getting the remaining MPs from Yanukovych's "Party of Regions" vote at gunpoint + 10% of the Nazi Svoboda party vote. (Which is usually not too big on European values) A secondary violation was in nominating Mr. Turchinov (aka the "Bloody pastor" A protégé of some religious fruitcakes out of US) the Chairman of the Rada, and thus the interim President in-waiting. Normally, this requires a signature of an official called the Secretary of the Security Council (SNBO), who is nominated by a direct order of the sitting President only. Thus, by the order of Yanukovych in this case. Conveniently, did the previous official in this position, a fellow named Kluyev, also flee to Russia, while the sitting Rada Chairman, some very senior dude from the Communist Party, retired due to ill health and was never heard from again since. The Communist Party was consequently outlawed wholesale. How exactly did Mr. Parubiy (of the Nazi Svoboda party) suddenly pop up in the position of the Secretary, nominating Turchinov? (The two later swapped places, with Turchinov become the Secretary of the SNBO, and Parubiy the Speaker of the Rada) Which President nominated Mr. Parubiy for Secretary, when Yanukovych and the previous secretary fled? A tertiary violation was in Turchinov ordering the Army to go help the Nazi goons beating up Donbass. The interim President (who was previously the Speaker of the Rada) does not have the full Presidential powers. Specifically, he does not command the armed forces! They had to wait for Poroshenko to be elected, instead of presenting him with a civil war as a fait accompli. Last, but not least, there was no need for any of the violence after Yanukovych agreed to snap elections. There was an agreement co-signed by FMs of Poland, Germany and France guaranteeing that Maidan armed goons will stand down if the riot police will. The riot police did stand down, but the Nazi goons of Maidan did not. The agreement signed by EU FMs not worth the piece of paper it was written on. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 August 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rob Plant said: This is pointless Nick was right Ignorance is truly bliss, eh? I am trying to get you to snap out of your programming and turn on your brains. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites