Ajan Bosnjacki + 27 AB August 8, 2018 Musk is also making a lot of terse moves on Twitter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA August 8, 2018 This reminds me of the 2000 dot.com bubble. $60 billion market cap company with zero earnings and no earnings on the horizon. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT August 8, 2018 Just now, JohnAtronis said: This reminds me of the 2000 dot.com bubble. $60 billion market cap company with zero earnings and no earnings on the horizon. then I guess Telsa doesn't need anymore government subsidies from the taxpayer. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL August 8, 2018 The company's shares, which opened the day at just under $344, rose 4 percent following Musk's tweet, then gave up some of those gains. The shares managed to bounce back to around $370 a share when trading was halted. The stock had been up earlier in the day after it was reported a Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund had bought a $2 billion stake in Tesla. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT August 8, 2018 Really not sure why the world isn't understanding that every other car company on the planet has an EV program. Also, I don't think he is going private, he only did it to smoke the shorties 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigerian Price + 22 SK August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joanna said: Really not sure why the world isn't understanding that every other car company on the planet has an EV program. Also, I don't think he is going private, he only did it to smoke the shorties Musk may dislike Short Sellers too much for his own good. But, using his words to push the share price higher he unwittingly made the shares even more attractive to shorties Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hajga Loma DK + 47 HL August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nigerian Price said: Musk may dislike Short Sellers too much for his own good. But, using his words to push the share price higher he unwittingly made the shares even more attractive to shorties Maybe the short sellers get burned, but this company is much worse off as a private one. Tesla needs to raise more capital to survive 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen + 67 SM August 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Joanna said: Really not sure why the world isn't understanding that every other car company on the planet has an EV program. Also, I don't think he is going private, he only did it to smoke the shorties Tesla will be seeing lots of competition in the next couple of years. For instance, VW R&D budget is 10 times Tesla and they already have factories for production. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cokiga Damke + 53 CD August 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, JohnAtronis said: This reminds me of the 2000 dot.com bubble. $60 billion market cap company with zero earnings and no earnings on the horizon. Unless he can come up with a real offer backed by $50 billion that is presented to the board within a day or two, this would be market manipulation and massive securities fraud 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT August 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, Ajan Bosnjacki said: Musk is also making a lot of terse moves on Twitter he does remind me of Trump in many ways. Just more pleasant accent 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL August 8, 2018 Just now, Joanna said: he does remind me of Trump in many ways. Just more pleasant accent except he knows how to make money. Unlike Trump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT August 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Joanna said: Really not sure why the world isn't understanding that every other car company on the planet has an EV program. Also, I don't think he is going private, he only did it to smoke the shorties We haven't even seen the short squeeze yet. If Musk's notion gains credibility, the stock could easily go over $500. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 August 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Cokiga Damke said: Unless he can come up with a real offer backed by $50 billion that is presented to the board within a day or two, this would be market manipulation and massive securities fraud ^ this. Very much so. Musk's LBO Plan Triggers Furious Controversy, And One Burning Question And here a bigf problem for Musk emerges, because as @TeslaAgnostic points out, merely the intent of a "going private" transaction, triggers rule 13E-3, which requires the company to file a Schedule 13E-3 with the SEC as well as furnish the required disclosures to the company's shareholders. Note: the rule is triggered in either case, even if the intent to go private is ultimately unsuccessful. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA August 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said: ^ this. Very much so. Musk's LBO Plan Triggers Furious Controversy, And One Burning Question And here a bigf problem for Musk emerges, because as @TeslaAgnostic points out, merely the intent of a "going private" transaction, triggers rule 13E-3, which requires the company to file a Schedule 13E-3 with the SEC as well as furnish the required disclosures to the company's shareholders. Note: the rule is triggered in either case, even if the intent to go private is ultimately unsuccessful. A potential deal to take Tesla Inc. private would be by far the largest buyout in history. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Cokiga Damke said: Unless he can come up with a real offer backed by $50 billion that is presented to the board within a day or two, this would be market manipulation and massive securities fraud First lets look at Trump and see if he broke any laws were broken in his Tweets. Then we can use that as a precedence to see if any laws was broken by Musk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wellsliq@gmail.com + 1 WW August 8, 2018 Price of EV's will be the determinant. And Tesla ain't there. They have a beautiful front in Devon that was a Toyota dealersip next to the GE Capital bldg. Maybe he can pull off skimming the way Welch and Immelt did it at GE Capital and other GE Enterprises. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wellsliq@gmail.com + 1 WW August 8, 2018 Yeah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 August 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Cokiga Damke said: Unless he can come up with a real offer backed by $50 billion that is presented to the board within a day or two, this would be market manipulation and massive securities fraud Oh lookey here .. SEC Probes Tesla CEO Musk’s Tweets WASHINGTON—U.S. regulators are askingTesla Inc. TSLA -2.43% whether Chief Executive Elon Musk was truthful when he tweeted that he had secured funding for what would be the largest-ever corporate buyout, people familiar with the matter said. Officials at the Securities and Exchange Commission want to know whether Mr. Musk had a factual basis for tweeting Tuesday that the going-private transaction was all but certain, with only a shareholder vote needed to pull it off, the people said. The SEC’s inquiries, which originated from the agency’s San Francisco office, suggest Tesla could come under an enforcement investigation if regulators suspect that Mr. Musk’s statement was misleading or false. ... Under U.S. law, companies and corporate officers can’t give shareholders misleading information about meaningful company events. Mr. Musk also could be in trouble if regulators develop evidence that he made a statement aimed at goosing his company’s share price. Mr. Musk shocked Wall Street by tweeting Tuesday that he planned to take the electric-car maker private at $420 a share, or $72 billion. That is about 20% above the stock’s trading price earlier that day and 11% higher than its Tuesday closing price. In his tweet Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Musk wrote that the buyout had “funding secured,” but he didn’t provide any details. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 August 9, 2018 https://www.breitbart.com/news/tesla-ceos-buyout-bid-raises-eyebrows-legal-concerns/ If he gets away with it, it might further the Ponzi scheme. Or, maybe result in success. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites