The United Nations' AGENDA 2030 - The vision for One World Governance ...an article by the famous Dr Robert Malone

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“If you control the food supply, you control everything,”

The UN envisions a global command economy

Robert W Malone MD, MS

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/if-you-control-the-food-supply-you

 

 

I spent the afternoon reading the UN’s 2030 agenda, with its 17 goals and 169 targets. This is an agenda that the UN has been working towards building since 1992 -

Frankly, it was terrifying. My take away thought was that once you strip the unicons and butterflies out of the text, this unilateral consensus document reads like an updated communist manifesto .

This is particularly relevant because while the Agenda 2030 is a not a legally binding instrument, but the regional and international human rights Conventions and Covenants at the core of Agenda 2030 are, in fact, binding instruments of international law. So, for now - we can insist that our politicians fight against the more draconian aspects of agenda 2030.

Now, at first glance -most of the 169 targets of Agenda 21 are rather “fuzzy.” but extremely naive objectives.  They are the goals of a command economy government, not an organization for world peace! Frankly, they are the goals of a failed governmental model. A model that has been tried again and again.

Definition: A command economy is a system in which a central government makes all economic decisions. Either the government or a collective owns the land and the means of production.

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But let’s go back a step to the beginning of the United Nations (UN). After World War II, the UN was developed by a number of nations to end wars and maintain world peace. Slowly, over time, 193 nations have become members.

It has morphed into a leviathan organization; with tentacles that reach into all member nations. Its various agreements and goals have dictates regarding the economy, health, poverty, migration, “reproductive “ health, monetary systems, digital IDs, environmental controls, control of agricultural markets, universal living wage worldwide, governmental systems, etc. 

The UN has partnerships and strategic agreements with member nations, 100s of non-governmental organizations -like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Bank, and the World Economic Forum. It has developed many offspring organizations, such as UNESCO and the World Health Organization.

The UN has signed strategic agreements with all of the major organizations and world powers to fulfill a utopian vision of the world that includes a global governing power that will ensure no poverty, no discrimination, universal healthcare and reproductive care, no dirty energy, no unequal food distribution, a living wage and a reversal of climate change by UN intervention on member nations. Basically a new world order- with unelected officials in control.

It no longer is enough to work for world peace, they now are fulfilling the role of a globalized government. It has many, many signed treaties signers and strategic agreements with its member nations. These agreements include statements that governments will not do anything that would go against the United Nations 2030 agenda. That includes “equity” for all. That is, a universal living wage.

Honestly, one has to wonder what was the US Government thinking when it signed these agreements?  It is as if the US Government just decided to turn over sovereignty to the United Nations!

But don’t just take my word for it – instead lets take direct quotes from their 169 targets in their newest and biggest initiative “Agenda 2030:”

Remember - these targets are to be on a GLOBAL level by 2030 and member nations are to ensure that these goals are not thwarted. These are just a few of the goals found in Agenda 2030 and they do not cover other strategic agreements signed by UN member nations:

The list of 17 Sustainable Development Goals and 169 Targets

Ensure significant mobilization of resources from a variety of sources, including through enhanced development cooperation, in order to provide adequate and predictable means for developing countries, in particular least developed countries, to implement programmes and policies to end poverty in all its dimensions.

Create sound policy frameworks at the national, regional and international levels, based on pro-poor and gender-sensitive development strategies, to support accelerated investment in poverty eradication actions protection due to conflict

Correct and prevent trade restrictions and distortions in world agricultural markets, including through the parallel elimination of all forms of agricultural export subsidies and all export measures with equivalent effect, in accordance with the mandate of the Doha Development Round.

Adopt measures to ensure the proper functioning of food commodity markets and their derivatives and facilitate timely access to market information, including on food reserves, in order to help limit extreme food price volatility.

By 2030, ensure universal access to sexual and reproductive health-care services, including for family planning, information and education, and the integration of reproductive health into national strategies and programmes

Achieve universal health coverage, including financial risk protection, access to quality essential health-care services and access to safe, effective, quality and affordable essential medicines and vaccines for all

Support the research and development of vaccines and medicines for the communicable and noncommunicable diseases that primarily affect developing countries, provide access to affordable essential medicines and vaccines, in accordance with the Doha Declaration on the TRIPS Agreement and Public Health, which affirms the right of developing countries to use to the full the provisions in the Agreement on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights regarding flexibilities to protect public health, and, in particular, provide access to medicines for all

By 2030, ensure that all girls and boys complete free, equitable and quality primary and secondary education leading to relevant and Goal-4 effective learning outcomes

By 2030, ensure equal access for all women and men to affordable and quality technical, vocational and tertiary education, including university

By 2030, ensure that all learners acquire the knowledge and skills needed to promote sustainable development, including, among others, through education for sustainable development and sustainable lifestyles, human rights, gender equality, promotion of a culture of peace and non-violence, global citizenship and appreciation of cultural diversity and of culture’s contribution to sustainable development

Ensure universal access to sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights as agreed in accordance with the Programme of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development and the Beijing Platform for Action and the outcome documents of their review conferences

By 2030, achieve full and productive employment and decent work for all women and men, including for young people and persons with disabilities, and equal pay for work of equal value (my note - yes, this means a command economy -ergo communism).

Ensure equal opportunity and reduce inequalities of outcome, including by eliminating discriminatory laws, policies and practices and promoting appropriate legislation, policies and action in this regard

Adopt policies, especially fiscal, wage and social protection policies, and progressively achieve greater equality

Improve the regulation and monitoring of global financial markets and institutions and strengthen the implementation of such regulations

Facilitate orderly, safe, regular and responsible migration and mobility of people, including through the implementation of planned and well-managed migration policies

By 2030, ensure access for all to adequate, safe and affordable housing and basic services and upgrade slums

By 2030, provide access to safe, affordable, accessible and sustainable transport systems for all, improving road safety, notably by expanding public transport, with special attention to the needs of those in vulnerable situations, women, children, persons with disabilities and older persons

By 2030, enhance inclusive and sustainable urbanization and capacity for participatory, integrated and sustainable human settlement planning and management in all countries

Support positive economic, social and environmental links between urban, peri-urban and rural areas by strengthening national and regional development planning

By 2030, substantially increase the number of cities and human settlements adopting and implementing integrated policies and plans towards inclusion, resource efficiency, mitigation and adaptation to climate change,

Rationalize inefficient fossil-fuel subsidies that encourage wasteful consumption by removing market distortions, in accordance with national circumstances, including by restructuring taxation and phasing out those harmful subsidies, where they exist, to reflect their environmental impacts, taking fully into account the specific needs and conditions of developing countries and minimizing the possible adverse impacts on their development in a manner that protects the poor and the affected communities

Developed countries to implement fully their official development assistance commitments, including the commitment by many developed countries to achieve the target of 0.7 per cent of ODA/GNI to developing countries and 0.15 to 0.20 per cent of ODA/GNI to least developed countries ODA providers are encouraged to consider setting a target to provide at least 0.20 per cent of ODA/GNI to least developed countries

Develop effective, accountable and transparent institutions at all levels

Ensure responsive, inclusive, participatory and representative decision-making at all levels

Broaden and strengthen the participation of developing countries in the institutions of global governance

By 2030, provide legal identity for all, including birth registration

Now, many of the above are legitimate goals - BUT for a nation, not as a world governance.

The UN has overstepped.

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The UN says no war. They were thwarted. Lol But yea North America needs to control its own commodity pricing at home. Exports are a different matter. Citizens should not be punished for excessive exports. Nat gas being a classic example. The US is a huge exporter but prices jump because of problems in Europe? That’s stupid. Their problems and ours do not relate when it comes to export items like nat gas, oil, wheat, corn etc. the US citizens need to take back control of this pricing from their international companies and politicions. Exports should attract lower pricing from the producing country for its citizens. Even idiots should expect that. 

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 woofy wish of governments world wide

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On 8/9/2022 at 7:58 AM, Tom Nolan said:

“If you control the food supply, you control everything,”

The UN envisions a global command economy

Robert W Malone MD, MS

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/if-you-control-the-food-supply-you

 

 

I spent the afternoon reading the UN’s 2030 agenda, with its 17 goals and 169 targets. This is an agenda that the UN has been working towards building since 1992 -

Frankly, it was terrifying. My take away thought was that once you strip the unicons and butterflies out of the text, this unilateral consensus document reads like an updated communist manifesto .

This is particularly relevant because while the Agenda 2030 is a not a legally binding instrument, but the regional and international human rights Conventions and Covenants at the core of Agenda 2030 are, in fact, binding instruments of international law. So, for now - we can insist that our politicians fight against the more draconian aspects of agenda 2030.

Now, at first glance -most of the 169 targets of Agenda 21 are rather “fuzzy.” but extremely naive objectives.  They are the goals of a command economy government, not an organization for world peace! Frankly, they are the goals of a failed governmental model. A model that has been tried again and again.

Definition: A command economy is a system in which a central government makes all economic decisions. Either the government or a collective owns the land and the means of production.

---

But let’s go back a step to the beginning of the United Nations (UN). After World War II, the UN was developed by a number of nations to end wars and maintain world peace. Slowly, over time, 193 nations have become members.

It has morphed into a leviathan organization; with tentacles that reach into all member nations. Its various agreements and goals have dictates regarding the economy, health, poverty, migration, “reproductive “ health, monetary systems, digital IDs, environmental controls, control of agricultural markets, universal living wage worldwide, governmental systems, etc. 

The UN has partnerships and strategic agreements with member nations, 100s of non-governmental organizations -like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Bank, and the World Economic Forum. It has developed many offspring organizations, such as UNESCO and the World Health Organization.

The UN has signed strategic agreements with all of the major organizations and world powers to fulfill a utopian vision of the world that includes a global governing power that will ensure no poverty, no discrimination, universal healthcare and reproductive care, no dirty energy, no unequal food distribution, a living wage and a reversal of climate change by UN intervention on member nations. Basically a new world order- with unelected officials in control.

It no longer is enough to work for world peace, they now are fulfilling the role of a globalized government. It has many, many signed treaties signers and strategic agreements with its member nations. These agreements include statements that governments will not do anything that would go against the United Nations 2030 agenda. That includes “equity” for all. That is, a universal living wage.

Honestly, one has to wonder what was the US Government thinking when it signed these agreements?  It is as if the US Government just decided to turn over sovereignty to the United Nations!

But don’t just take my word for it – instead lets take direct quotes from their 169 targets in their newest and biggest initiative “Agenda 2030:”

Remember - these targets are to be on a GLOBAL level by 2030 and member nations are to ensure that these goals are not thwarted. These are just a few of the goals found in Agenda 2030 and they do not cover other strategic agreements signed by UN member nations:

The list of 17 Sustainable Development Goals and 169 Targets

Ensure significant mobilization of resources from a variety of sources, including through enhanced development cooperation, in order to provide adequate and predictable means for developing countries, in particular least developed countries, to implement programmes and policies to end poverty in all its dimensions.

Create sound policy frameworks at the national, regional and international levels, based on pro-poor and gender-sensitive development strategies, to support accelerated investment in poverty eradication actions protection due to conflict

Correct and prevent trade restrictions and distortions in world agricultural markets, including through the parallel elimination of all forms of agricultural export subsidies and all export measures with equivalent effect, in accordance with the mandate of the Doha Development Round.

Adopt measures to ensure the proper functioning of food commodity markets and their derivatives and facilitate timely access to market information, including on food reserves, in order to help limit extreme food price volatility.

By 2030, ensure universal access to sexual and reproductive health-care services, including for family planning, information and education, and the integration of reproductive health into national strategies and programmes

Achieve universal health coverage, including financial risk protection, access to quality essential health-care services and access to safe, effective, quality and affordable essential medicines and vaccines for all

Support the research and development of vaccines and medicines for the communicable and noncommunicable diseases that primarily affect developing countries, provide access to affordable essential medicines and vaccines, in accordance with the Doha Declaration on the TRIPS Agreement and Public Health, which affirms the right of developing countries to use to the full the provisions in the Agreement on Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights regarding flexibilities to protect public health, and, in particular, provide access to medicines for all

By 2030, ensure that all girls and boys complete free, equitable and quality primary and secondary education leading to relevant and Goal-4 effective learning outcomes

By 2030, ensure equal access for all women and men to affordable and quality technical, vocational and tertiary education, including university

By 2030, ensure that all learners acquire the knowledge and skills needed to promote sustainable development, including, among others, through education for sustainable development and sustainable lifestyles, human rights, gender equality, promotion of a culture of peace and non-violence, global citizenship and appreciation of cultural diversity and of culture’s contribution to sustainable development

Ensure universal access to sexual and reproductive health and reproductive rights as agreed in accordance with the Programme of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development and the Beijing Platform for Action and the outcome documents of their review conferences

By 2030, achieve full and productive employment and decent work for all women and men, including for young people and persons with disabilities, and equal pay for work of equal value (my note - yes, this means a command economy -ergo communism).

Ensure equal opportunity and reduce inequalities of outcome, including by eliminating discriminatory laws, policies and practices and promoting appropriate legislation, policies and action in this regard

Adopt policies, especially fiscal, wage and social protection policies, and progressively achieve greater equality

Improve the regulation and monitoring of global financial markets and institutions and strengthen the implementation of such regulations

Facilitate orderly, safe, regular and responsible migration and mobility of people, including through the implementation of planned and well-managed migration policies

By 2030, ensure access for all to adequate, safe and affordable housing and basic services and upgrade slums

By 2030, provide access to safe, affordable, accessible and sustainable transport systems for all, improving road safety, notably by expanding public transport, with special attention to the needs of those in vulnerable situations, women, children, persons with disabilities and older persons

By 2030, enhance inclusive and sustainable urbanization and capacity for participatory, integrated and sustainable human settlement planning and management in all countries

Support positive economic, social and environmental links between urban, peri-urban and rural areas by strengthening national and regional development planning

By 2030, substantially increase the number of cities and human settlements adopting and implementing integrated policies and plans towards inclusion, resource efficiency, mitigation and adaptation to climate change,

Rationalize inefficient fossil-fuel subsidies that encourage wasteful consumption by removing market distortions, in accordance with national circumstances, including by restructuring taxation and phasing out those harmful subsidies, where they exist, to reflect their environmental impacts, taking fully into account the specific needs and conditions of developing countries and minimizing the possible adverse impacts on their development in a manner that protects the poor and the affected communities

Developed countries to implement fully their official development assistance commitments, including the commitment by many developed countries to achieve the target of 0.7 per cent of ODA/GNI to developing countries and 0.15 to 0.20 per cent of ODA/GNI to least developed countries ODA providers are encouraged to consider setting a target to provide at least 0.20 per cent of ODA/GNI to least developed countries

Develop effective, accountable and transparent institutions at all levels

Ensure responsive, inclusive, participatory and representative decision-making at all levels

Broaden and strengthen the participation of developing countries in the institutions of global governance

By 2030, provide legal identity for all, including birth registration

Now, many of the above are legitimate goals - BUT for a nation, not as a world governance.

The UN has overstepped.

Of course, all of these UN goals will be imposed on the "developed" world of North America and Europe, and ignored by Russia and China.

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2 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Of course, all of these UN goals will be imposed on the "developed" world of North America and Europe, and ignored by Russia and China.

The US is not bound by the UN.

 

 

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2 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

The US is not bound by the UN.

Study your history.  The U.S. is one of the biggest players in running the U.N. and its agendas.  The U.N. actually has a history of sterilizing people and other assorted crimes.  Children have been subjected to rape and prostitution by United Nations peacekeepers in Haiti and Liberia, a BBC investigation has found.  If you watch "Why Big Oil Conquered the World", you will much more about the U.N. and the Climate Change Agenda.

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1 hour ago, Tom Nolan said:

Study your history.  The U.S. is one of the biggest players in running the U.N. and its agendas.  The U.N. actually has a history of sterilizing people and other assorted crimes.  Children have been subjected to rape and prostitution by United Nations peacekeepers in Haiti and Liberia, a BBC investigation has found.  If you watch "Why Big Oil Conquered the World", you will much more about the U.N. and the Climate Change Agenda.

UN is essentially a branch of US government, because the "collective West" still controls the majority of its budget.

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The UN has shown little ability to take on international companies. In a world of corruption international companies have more money to spread their influence. It’s perfect, they make even more money on war. All this UN fear is just spam and fake news from international companies. It’s poor sleepy against the world and he may be winning this round. Lol Evil is also primarily stupid,  greedy and exploitive. It’s hard to push an agenda that robs from the rest. But with entire governments like Russia, China and the Saudi you gotta have a sleepy to match them.

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5 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

Study your history.  The U.S. is one of the biggest players in running the U.N. and its agendas. 

I said the US is not bound by the UN; I did not say the US is not running the UN.

Words matter, read carefully.

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4 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

UN is essentially a branch of US government, because the "collective West" still controls the majority of its budget.

Perhaps all the "sins" of the UN should be attributed to the USA.

Terrorist @Tom Nolan  you are getting distracted from covid!   Please remind us how we all died of autoimmune disease a year ago.

Edited August 13, 2022 by TailingsPond

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the Arizona Democrat who single-handedly thwarted her party’s longtime goal of raising taxes on wealthy investors, received nearly $1 million over the past year from private equity professionals, hedge fund managers and venture capitalists whose taxes would have increased under the plan.

For years, Democrats have promised to raise taxes on such investors, who pay a significantly lower rate on their earnings than ordinary workers. But just as they closed in on that goal last week, Sinema forced a series of changes to her party’s $740 billion election-year spending package, eliminating a proposed “carried interest” tax increase on private equity earnings while securing a $35 billion exemption that will spare much of the industry from a separate tax increase other huge corporations now have to pay. 

The bill, with Sinema’s alterations intact, was given final approval by Congress on Friday and is expected to be signed by President Joe Biden next week.
 

Its not just Trump who is corrupt. Now a million is kinda chump change compared to the schemes Trump involves himself in. We need to dump the SCOTUS, change the law back so companies are not people. The people need to be protected from these predators. 

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10 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Perhaps all the "sins" of the UN should be attributed to the USA.

Terrorist @Tom Nolan  you are getting distracted from covid!   Please remind us how we all died of autoimmune disease a year ago.

If you would have been keeping up...around the world in 2021 (vaccine roll-out) and into 2022, excess mortality is as high or greater than in the Pandemic year of 2020.  It is astounding.  Insurance companies, including the top 5 in the U.S. have alarming statistics of EXCESS MORTALITY ...and it ain't omicron.  Health ailments are way up also.

But, no, you only read what Google and governments and mainstream media tell you, so thus you stay uninformed.

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12 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

If you would have been keeping up...around the world in 2021 (vaccine roll-out) and into 2022, excess mortality is as high or greater than in the Pandemic year of 2020.  It is astounding.  Insurance companies, including the top 5 in the U.S. have alarming statistics of EXCESS MORTALITY ...and it ain't omicron.  Health ailments are way up also.

But, no, you only read what Google and governments and mainstream media tell you, so thus you stay uninformed.

Start watching this VERY RECENT VIDEO at the 41 minute mark to get a taste of EXCESS MORTALITY...

https://thehighwire.com/videos/episode-280-rigged/

Edited August 13, 2022 by Tom Nolan

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what's the point of controlling food supply when there might never be enough somewhere..... and they make you donate your controlled supply in the warehouses...?

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by specinho

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On 8/13/2022 at 8:04 PM, specinho said:

what's the point of controlling food supply when there might never be enough somewhere..... and they make you donate your controlled supply in the warehouses...?

 

Neo-Malthusian BS. The population is actually shrinking (or set up to shrink soon) everywhere, but in Africa.

The stable state population requires ~2.2

The only OECD economy that makes the grade is Israel, and that probably only on behalf of embedded religious fruitcakes, who do nothing else productive.

Moreover, is total fertility under 2.0 going to be an outright catastrophe for Asian developing economies like Bangladesh, where they apparently discovered birth control before they discovered pensions. In a traditional society like that, it is up to children to look after their elderly parents.

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

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15 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Neo-Malthusian BS. The population is actually shrinking (or set up to shrink soon) everywhere, but in Africa.

The stable state population requires ~2.2

The only OECD economy that makes the grade is Israel, and that probably only on behalf of embedded religious fruitcakes, who do nothing else productive.

Moreover, is total fertility under 2.0 going to be an outright catastrophe for Asian developing economies of Bangladesh, where they apparently discovered birth control before they discovered pensions. In a traditional society like that, it is up to children to look after their elderly parents.

 

 

estimation could be a guide but not absolute indicator.... Who counted them, right? '-'

for example, in some remote countries, birth certs were and might still be hand written. More efficient, they claim. Therefore, no formal record of head count until those babies are 12 years old. Which means, data available could be representing a record of 12 years back?

If population evaluation is taking place every 10 years, and only ~ 60 to 70% of people responded. Data might still be back dated and under-evaluated.

Under normal condition, when mankind has sufficient food, money and spare time, there would be nothing else but reproduce. Some, might have more than one wife, e.g.  3 or 5 for the rich and some religious fruitcakes mentioned, > 38  for Swazillan (38 was a figure > 10 years ago. The custom add one woman each year for the king which could be 48 by now........... '~' ) .......... Only places where weather is not conducive, having expensive living costs or money is worried not enough and of not much spare time e.g. in the cities, that birth rate would drop.

Judging from these, only developed countries are busy and conscious enough to restraint themselves....... All other places might still experience growth of "unintended consequence"........ or of conscious effort to outgrow and be a dominant race.

Based on the dimension of many new houses designed, 400 to 600 sf of foldable high rise studio and row houses ( double storeys) have been popular. Growing out of space is probably not BS..... Growing out of leaders might not be BS too. Generation gap of different life experience, education etc does not allow the past to be continued beyond the third successor. Without proper leaders, the world is facing problems on how to have local work force required, how lower quality of education does not meet the demand or over supply of cert owners, how food, resources and prices ought to be handled, how to administer a country with senses etc...

Worries mentioned more than 70 years ago might be a foresight, not  BS?

 

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5 hours ago, specinho said:

 

estimation could be a guide but not absolute indicator.... Who counted them, right? '-'

 

for example, in some remote countries, birth certs were and might still be hand written. More efficient, they claim. Therefore, no formal record of head count until those babies are 12 years old. Which means, data available could be representing a record of 12 years back?

If population evaluation is taking place every 10 years, and only ~ 60 to 70% of people responded. Data might still be back dated and under-evaluated.

Under normal condition, when mankind has sufficient food, money and spare time, there would be nothing else but reproduce. Some, might have more than one wife, e.g.  3 or 5 for the rich and some religious fruitcakes mentioned, > 38  for Swazillan (38 was a figure > 10 years ago. The custom add one woman each year for the king which could be 48 by now........... '~' ) .......... Only places where weather is not conducive, having expensive living costs or money is worried not enough and of not much spare time e.g. in the cities, that birth rate would drop.

Judging from these, only developed countries are busy and conscious enough to restraint themselves....... All other places might still experience growth of "unintended consequence"........ or of conscious effort to outgrow and be a dominant race.

Based on the dimension of many new houses designed, 400 to 600 sf of foldable high rise studio and row houses ( double storeys) have been popular. Growing out of space is probably not BS..... Growing out of leaders might not be BS too. Generation gap of different life experience, education etc does not allow the past to be continued beyond the third successor. Without proper leaders, the world is facing problems on how to have local work force required, how lower quality of education does not meet the demand or over supply of cert owners, how food, resources and prices ought to be handled, how to administer a country with senses etc...

Worries mentioned more than 70 years ago might be a foresight, not  BS?

 

Caviar is assessable by volume

Most countries, even the very backward ones, are capable of conducting some kind of census. Perhaps with external help. Having a growing population looks good. People are the new oil!

One known counterexample is Ukraine. Their census is like 12 years overdue. They want to keep claiming to be a country of 44 million, which is unlikely to be true. Secondary checks, like the usage of electricity and amount of consumed bread, suggested about 35 mil (before the war) Quite useful for ballot stuffing, too.

The entire humanity can be ground into a meatball fitting into NYC's Central Park

https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/p0qws3/self_if_you_blended_all_788_billion_people_on/

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5 hours ago, specinho said:

 

estimation could be a guide but not absolute indicator.... Who counted them, right? '-'

 

for example, in some remote countries, birth certs were and might still be hand written. More efficient, they claim. Therefore, no formal record of head count until those babies are 12 years old. Which means, data available could be representing a record of 12 years back?

If population evaluation is taking place every 10 years, and only ~ 60 to 70% of people responded. Data might still be back dated and under-evaluated.

Under normal condition, when mankind has sufficient food, money and spare time, there would be nothing else but reproduce. Some, might have more than one wife, e.g.  3 or 5 for the rich and some religious fruitcakes mentioned, > 38  for Swazillan (38 was a figure > 10 years ago. The custom add one woman each year for the king which could be 48 by now........... '~' ) .......... Only places where weather is not conducive, having expensive living costs or money is worried not enough and of not much spare time e.g. in the cities, that birth rate would drop.

Judging from these, only developed countries are busy and conscious enough to restraint themselves....... All other places might still experience growth of "unintended consequence"........ or of conscious effort to outgrow and be a dominant race.

Based on the dimension of many new houses designed, 400 to 600 sf of foldable high rise studio and row houses ( double storeys) have been popular. Growing out of space is probably not BS..... Growing out of leaders might not be BS too. Generation gap of different life experience, education etc does not allow the past to be continued beyond the third successor. Without proper leaders, the world is facing problems on how to have local work force required, how lower quality of education does not meet the demand or over supply of cert owners, how food, resources and prices ought to be handled, how to administer a country with senses etc...

Worries mentioned more than 70 years ago might be a foresight, not  BS?

 

I think I liked the previous version better, where additional fertility required additional patriarchal oppression :)

Look at the same map for the 1950-ties

So, whatever population growth we are observing now is merely lag, a side effect of about three generations being alive at once. (with proportion of old people in the population growing)

The correlation with developed/not developed (or the amount of patriarchal oppression) is no longer there, like it was in the 1950-ties.

 

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On 8/15/2022 at 10:19 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Caviar is assessable by volume

Most countries, even the very backward ones, are capable of conducting some kind of census. Perhaps with external help. Having a growing population looks good. People are the new oil!

One known counterexample is Ukraine. Their census is like 12 years overdue. They want to keep claiming to be a country of 44 million, which is unlikely to be true. Secondary checks, like the usage of electricity and amount of consumed bread, suggested about 35 mil (before the war) Quite useful for ballot stuffing, too.

The entire humanity can be ground into a meatball fitting into NYC's Central Park

https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/p0qws3/self_if_you_blended_all_788_billion_people_on/

'-' ...... heard of a theory that suggested to squeeze those mankind by droplets per time. Over some time, the government would get a small bucket of oil.......... for one splash that not enough to wet the fingers..................... 'n'

 

 

yeah.... that manure spreader......... and its census......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2022 by specinho