Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 November 2, 2023 (edited) Ya Don't Say. Let us start with your fearless leader....A epic tale. A War Hero or a Phony? https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/opinion/a-war-hero-or-a-phony.html Edited November 2, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 2, 2023 14 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Why Norway — the poster child for electric cars — is having second thoughts The mistake is to think that EVs solve all your problems when it comes to transport,” said Ruohonen, the Oslo mayoral adviser. “They don’t.” https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23939076/norway-electric-vehicle-cars-evs-tesla-oslo What is wrong with car dependence??? I dont get the problem at all. I have travelled extensively around Norway (Bergen to Oslo around the coast) and there is no viable economic public transport option due to its geography. whether its ICE cars or EV's just what is the problem in owning a car????? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM November 2, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say. Let us start with your fearless leader....A epic tale. A War Hero or a Phony? https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/opinion/a-war-hero-or-a-phony.html Did Trump ever have an xray done or a cat scan do look at his bone spurs???? Bone spurs never go away so they still should be their.......Unless Trump paid off his doctor to avoid military service which is a crime....... EWO your really into this kind of crap so can you weigh in on Trumps bones spurs????? Just asking for a freind as anyone who would lie about having bone spurs to avoid the draft would be a yellow coward in my book....... Now back to the topic on hand....... EV sales 4th quarter is looking like another record sales quarter everywhere......... Edited November 2, 2023 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 November 2, 2023 (edited) On 10/30/2023 at 8:11 AM, Rob Plant said: Its called competition! You must have heard of it and even seen it in action as youre Eyes are wide open, apparently. On 11/1/2023 at 12:20 PM, TailingsPond said: Did you read it? It's not like they want to go back to ICE cars, or that EV's don't work. The concern here is that EV's make people less likely to give up their cars altogether and reduces investment in public transport. EV's are too good! lol "Electric cars are crucial, but not enough to solve climate change. We can’t let them crowd out car-free transit options." On 11/1/2023 at 12:23 PM, notsonice said: you went from one persons opinion to the whole country is having second thoughts???????? and the one person does not work for the Mayor of Oslo I guess I can call myself an Oslo Mayoral Adviser by emailing my opinions to the Mayor of Oslo?????? anyone taking the so called advisors comments as Norway is having second thoughts is jævla....forstå??????? This is why your posts have no credibility whatsoever When is the last time you were in Norway?????? it will knock your socks off...... No Coal powered anything Oil consumption is dropping through the floor and everything is super efficient....no evs dying on the side of the road whatsoever himmel på jord On 11/1/2023 at 12:33 PM, notsonice said: Every civilized country on earth is backing away from Green Energy????? yet you post no facts....... This is why your posts have no credibility whatsoever the US Congress thru legislation is rewriting The Inflation Reduction Act.???? the Senate is rewritting it ???? maybe the snowflakes in the House..... what we all call dead on arrival.......I can rewrite it too ....means nothing when you are not in charge Your leader is an ex president and has no power...... You think Biden will go along with your BS???? ha ha ha ha ha You think Trump will escape jail????? to rewrite the IRA???? ha ha ha Enjoy the Green transition ....happening everywhere EV sales have now expanded for 13 straight quarters. Electric vehicles accounted for 7.9% of total US auto sales in Q3, up from 6.1% a year ago and 7.2% in Q2. EV sales surged 49.8% compared to last year, increasing 5% from the 298,039 sold in Q2.Oct 12, 2023 EV sales hit 7.9% of US market as Volvo, Mercedes, Hyundai ... Electrek https://electrek.co › 2023/10/12 › ev-sales-7-9-us-market Ya Don't Say... Ambition meets reality Some of those newly toned-down plans include: Ford pausing $12 billion in new EV factory spending due to slower customer demand; GM pushing back production launches of its slate of electric trucks and SUVs, including the Chevy Silverado and Equinox EVs, as well as the GMC Sierra Denali EV; The company is also pushing EV truck production at its Orion facility, which was supposed to start next year, until late 2025; Honda and GM cancel their plans to jointly develop a slate of affordable EVs, arguing they couldn’t make the math work; Tesla CEO Elon Musk wringing his hands over interest rates for almost an entire earnings call, while also appearing to dial back plans to build a new factory in Mexico; Speaking of Tesla, the EV leader’s profit margins hit a four-year low in the third quarter of this year, as the company continues to navigate the price war it started; Hertz, admitting that its newly purchased EVs are twice as expensive to fix as its gas cars, is slimming down its EV plans; Citing subsidies and competition from China, Volkswagen said it would stop making two of its flagship EVs, the ID.3 and Cupra’s Born. It’s gotten so bad, that now even notorious EV skeptic (and former CEO of Toyota) Akio Toyoda is going around basically being like “I told you so.” https://www.theverge.com/23934889/electric-vehicle-ev-transition-sales-delays-politics Edited November 2, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say... Ambition meets reality Some of those newly toned-down plans include: Ford pausing $12 billion in new EV factory spending due to slower customer demand; GM pushing back production launches of its slate of electric trucks and SUVs, including the Chevy Silverado and Equinox EVs, as well as the GMC Sierra Denali EV; The company is also pushing EV truck production at its Orion facility, which was supposed to start next year, until late 2025; Honda and GM cancel their plans to jointly develop a slate of affordable EVs, arguing they couldn’t make the math work; Tesla CEO Elon Musk wringing his hands over interest rates for almost an entire earnings call, while also appearing to dial back plans to build a new factory in Mexico; Speaking of Tesla, the EV leader’s profit margins hit a four-year low in the third quarter of this year, as the company continues to navigate the price war it started; Hertz, admitting that its newly purchased EVs are twice as expensive to fix as its gas cars, is slimming down its EV plans; Citing subsidies and competition from China, Volkswagen said it would stop making two of its flagship EVs, the ID.3 and Cupra’s Born. It’s gotten so bad, that now even notorious EV skeptic (and former CEO of Toyota) Akio Toyoda is going around basically being like “I told you so.” https://www.theverge.com/23934889/electric-vehicle-ev-transition-sales-delays-politics And yet EV sales are still rocketing Boo hoo some of the big manufacturers are belly aching that their profit margins are reduced, surely that's a good thing for the consumer with increased competition! Ford and GM are very late to the party so to catch up tech wise and gain market share for them is going to be very difficult. The Mustang Mach e has decent sales numbers though. VW, BMW, Tesla, BYD, Mercedes, Volvo, Polestar, SEAT, Nissan, Renault, Citroen are all miles ahead of them even Toyota are very late to join in the fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 November 4, 2023 (edited) On 11/3/2023 at 1:27 AM, Rob Plant said: VW, BMW, Tesla, BYD, Mercedes, Volvo, Polestar, SEAT, Nissan, Renault, Citroen are all miles ahead of them even Toyota are very late to join in the fun. Interesting commentary...VW seems to have run into a few speed bumps, just nasty little things. VW will cut staffing at key German EV plant VW's Zwickau plant is the automaker's largest EV production site in Europe. VW had planned to give permanent employment to 540 staff hired in recent years on limited contracts but says it is no longer able to do so for 269 of those staff https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/vw-cut-ev-production-zwickau-germany Edited November 4, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,007 GE November 4, 2023 I expect to see many job cuts at auto manufactures. The majority of auto workers have recently negotiated rather large pay raises. This will put pressure on the company to reduce staff size and increase automation. Tesla recently turned a 70 piece item into two, soon to be one. https://electrek.co/2021/01/11/tesla-starts-production-model-y-massive-single-piece-rear-casting/ Add in some AI / chatGPT related layoffs... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,543 November 4, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 1:32 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: Every civilized country on earth is backing away from Green Energy, as we type the US Congress thru legislation is rewriting The Inflation Reduction Act.. W@hilenI am certain the IRA could use some modification, whatever is "done" has to pass through both #46 and the Senate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 November 4, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, turbguy said: W@hilenI am certain the IRA could use some modification, whatever is "done" has to pass through both #46 and the Senate. Quite true, the Israel aid package and redirected IRS funding will be the test. Schumer may well try to table the bill, bad juju will be the result. I cannot help but say had Trump been re elected none of the world chaos would have taken place. Edited November 4, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,007 GE November 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: I cannot help but say had Trump been re elected none of the world chaos would have taken place. Epic stupid, even for you; but at least you accept trump lost the election. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM November 6, 2023 (edited) On 10/24/2023 at 6:01 PM, Ecocharger said: It looks like EV sales have stalled in both America and the UK and there are no signs that this situation will reverse going forward. you still clinging to posting BS???? you never post anything to back up your claims Your BS.......It looks like EV sales have stalled in both America and the UK and there are no signs that this situation will reverse going forward. now when the shit hits the fan..... Reality...the month of October 2023 in the UK EVs gaining market share month after month after month Clean Technica https://cleantechnica.com/2023/11/06/evs-take-24-9-of-the-uk-bmw-top-brand/ EVs Take 24.9% Of The UK – BMW Top Brand By Dr. Maximilian Holland October saw plugin EVs take 24.9% of the UK auto market, up from 21.5% year on year. Plugin hybrids had their strongest share in two years. Overall auto volume was 153,529 units, up 14.3% YoY, and in line with pre-2020 seasonal averages. BMW was October’s leading BEV brand. October’s combined plugin market share of 24.9% comprised 15.6% full battery electrics (BEVs), and 9.3% plugin hybrids (PHEVs). These compare to August 2022 figures of 21.5% combined, with 14.8% BEV, and 6.6% PHEV. The PHEV category has evidently seen a recovery, not due to generous incentives, but due to the new generation of improved PHEVs which offer 50+ miles of electric range. BEVs saw rather marginal YoY growth in share in October. In volume terms, however, BEVs grew by 20.1% YoY, to 23,943 units. PHEVs grew by 60.5%, to 14,285 units. Looking at 2023 as a whole, BEVs have grown 34.2% YTD, to 262,484 units (and taken 16.3% share YTD). PHEVs have grown by 36.7% to 113,278 units (7.1% share YTD). Even for BEVs, that rate of growth results in almost doubling volume every two years. Not too bad, when you step back. Edited November 6, 2023 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 707 November 6, 2023 This all makes sense for an Island nation or anyone who wants to drive around in a small area with lots of electrical service. I am curious to see how Tesla does with its new economy car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 707 November 6, 2023 On 11/2/2023 at 2:56 AM, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't Say. Let us start with your fearless leader....A epic tale. A War Hero or a Phony? https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/opinion/a-war-hero-or-a-phony.html I think he would have won without this book. Today we have a lot more sources of truthful information on our candidates. Still our eyes must be open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said: This all makes sense for an Island nation or anyone who wants to drive around in a small area with lots of electrical service. I am curious to see how Tesla does with its new economy car. my driving habits and just about everyone I know would be considered drivers in an Island nation......if the trip is over 500 miles I fly....Longest trips we drove in the past 10 years........160 miles one way...number of driven trips over 100 miles in a day.......2........number of flights .......(all over 500 miles one way)........at least 70 ......... rental vehicles.....2 evs in the last year after long haul flights......no problems ......getting charged up when needed.....in rural US...even rural ( and I mean rural) gas stations are getting chargers EVs are not just for island nations...........If I had to drive over 1000 miles and had 2 evs in the garage..........rental agency....... plans for driving long trips over 500 miles ....none time is more valuable than driving long trips......... for those that make frequent long drives......hybrid straight ICE vehicles ...........dinosaurs .......extinction is happening now........ Hybrids and EVs will be the majority of vehicles on the roads in 10 years no reason for any automaker to make at the minimum all vehicles Hybrids........they just make sense in much better gas mileage if one does not want a full EV Cash for Clunkers will happen again............next big recession........ Car makers love government bailouts and incentive to buy new vehicles Cash for clunkers last time 677,081 Cars Killed in Cash for Clunkers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,473 DL November 7, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 4:27 AM, Rob Plant said: And yet EV sales are still rocketing Boo hoo some of the big manufacturers are belly aching that their profit margins are reduced, surely that's a good thing for the consumer with increased competition! Ford and GM are very late to the party so to catch up tech wise and gain market share for them is going to be very difficult. The Mustang Mach e has decent sales numbers though. VW, BMW, Tesla, BYD, Mercedes, Volvo, Polestar, SEAT, Nissan, Renault, Citroen are all miles ahead of them even Toyota are very late to join in the fun. Sales of EVs are in a slump...big time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 November 7, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, notsonice said: you still clinging to posting BS???? you never post anything to back up your claims Your BS.......It looks like EV sales have stalled in both America and the UK and there are no signs that this situation will reverse going forward. now when the shit hits the fan..... Reality...the month of October 2023 in the UK EVs gaining market share month after month after month Clean Technica https://cleantechnica.com/2023/11/06/evs-take-24-9-of-the-uk-bmw-top-brand/ EVs Take 24.9% Of The UK – BMW Top Brand By Dr. Maximilian Holland October saw plugin EVs take 24.9% of the UK auto market, up from 21.5% year on year. Plugin hybrids had their strongest share in two years. Overall auto volume was 153,529 units, up 14.3% YoY, and in line with pre-2020 seasonal averages. BMW was October’s leading BEV brand. October’s combined plugin market share of 24.9% comprised 15.6% full battery electrics (BEVs), and 9.3% plugin hybrids (PHEVs). These compare to August 2022 figures of 21.5% combined, with 14.8% BEV, and 6.6% PHEV. The PHEV category has evidently seen a recovery, not due to generous incentives, but due to the new generation of improved PHEVs which offer 50+ miles of electric range. BEVs saw rather marginal YoY growth in share in October. In volume terms, however, BEVs grew by 20.1% YoY, to 23,943 units. PHEVs grew by 60.5%, to 14,285 units. Looking at 2023 as a whole, BEVs have grown 34.2% YTD, to 262,484 units (and taken 16.3% share YTD). PHEVs have grown by 36.7% to 113,278 units (7.1% share YTD). Even for BEVs, that rate of growth results in almost doubling volume every two years. Not too bad, when you step back. Run Joey RUN! The fix is IN...or is it OUT? Maybe just complicated... EMEA Sunak U-turn Puts EV Investors in “Jeopardy” Delay of fossil fuel car phaseout to 2035 does not create “any substantial benefits” for consumers or UK automotive industry, experts say. Investors have expressed concern about the “lack of certainty” created by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s postponement of the petrol and diesel car phaseout, as well as the knock-on effects it could have on electric vehicle (EV) production and the country’s net zero transition. Last week, Sunak confirmed that a ban on buying petrol and diesel cars had been delayed to 2035 from the 2030 deadline set by previous PM Boris Johnson. During his speech, Sunak said that “at least for now, it should be the consumer that makes that choice, not government forcing you”. The announcement by the PM was criticised by investors, other politicians and carmakers. https://www.esginvestor.net/sunak-u-turn-puts-ev-investors-in-jeopardy/ Edited November 7, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM November 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Run Joey RUN! The fix is IN...or is it OUT? Maybe just complicated... EMEA Sunak U-turn Puts EV Investors in “Jeopardy” Delay of fossil fuel car phaseout to 2035 does not create “any substantial benefits” for consumers or UK automotive industry, experts say. Investors have expressed concern about the “lack of certainty” created by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s postponement of the petrol and diesel car phaseout, as well as the knock-on effects it could have on electric vehicle (EV) production and the country’s net zero transition. Last week, Sunak confirmed that a ban on buying petrol and diesel cars had been delayed to 2035 from the 2030 deadline set by previous PM Boris Johnson. During his speech, Sunak said that “at least for now, it should be the consumer that makes that choice, not government forcing you”. The announcement by the PM was criticised by investors, other politicians and carmakers. https://www.esginvestor.net/sunak-u-turn-puts-ev-investors-in-jeopardy/ Run Joey RUN! The fix is IN...or is it OUT? Maybe just complicated?????.... I posted real numbers on the expansion of sales and you babble its complicated............ UK EV sales are increasing ...... and your pal Ecochump still in denial......he keeps repeating Sales of EVs are in a slump...big time. yet he never posts any facts to back up his BS........ Enjoy as EV sales pick up speed around the world 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 707 November 8, 2023 https://slaynews.com/news/watchdog-calls-investigation-biden-official-behind-electric-vehicle-push/ Watchdog Calls for Investigation into Biden Official Behind Electric Vehicle Push Frank BergmanNovember 7, 2023 - 11:02 am0 Comment The Department of Transportation’s (DOT) inspector general has been called on to investigate a top official in Democrat President Biden’s administration who has been leading the push to force Americans into switching to electric vehicles (EVs). A complaint was filed by watchdog Protect the Public’s Trust against Ann Carlson, acting administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). In a Monday letter to DOT Inspector General Eric Soskin, the watchdog alleges that Biden violated the Federal Vacancies Reform Act (FVRA) when he appointed Carlson. The FVRA stipulates that the president cannot appoint an acting officer to a position if the individual did not serve for at least 90 days as the chief assistant to the vacant job or if the president submits their nomination to the Senate for an appointment during the 365 days before the vacancy arising. The alleged violations of these clauses would mean that Carlson’s appointment was illegal. According to the letter, that any actions Carlson has taken in the role “shall have no force or effect.” Carlson, formerly chief counsel for the agency, had served as acting administrator of NHTSA since September 2022. She assumed the role upon the resignation of the former administrator, according to the White House. In February 2023, Biden announced that he would nominate Carlson to run the agency permanently. PROMOTED CONTENT Look For Any High School Yearbook, It's Free Classmates Do You Know What Large B Cell Lymphoma Is? Take A Look Search Ads Warning Signs Of Ankylosing Spondylitis Shouldn't Be Ignored Search Ads Python Owner Slept With Snake Every Night Until This Happened Tips And Tricks However, Senate Republicans tanked her nomination, largely because of her previous statements about using high energy prices as a launching pad to advance the globalist green agenda. Her other comments have also indicated Carlson’s support for hardline climate policy. The pushback forced Biden to withdraw Carlson’s nomination in May. Since the withdrawal, she has remained in the post on an acting basis and oversaw the agency’s proposed updates to the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards in July. Slay the latest News for free! We don’t spam! Read our privacy policy for more info. The updates would drive up automobile costs and amount to an “EV mandate,” Dan Kish, a senior research fellow for the Institute for Energy Research, previously warned. “This is becoming standard procedure when the people, through their Senators, reject Biden administration nominees over concerns about experience, activism, and conflicts of interest,” Michael Chamberlain, director of Protect the Public’s Trust, said in a statement. “That the administration has taken a similar tack with one of Secretary Buttigieg’s top deputies, Ms. Carlson, it appears that yet again the self-proclaimed most ethical administration in history has placed its agenda above constitutional checks and balances. “This is not the way to restore trust in the federal government.” NHTSA’s core mission is “to save lives, prevent injuries, and reduce economic costs due to road traffic crashes, through education, research, safety standards, and enforcement,” according to the agency’s website. Carlson had no distinct prior career experience pertaining directly to the automobile industry or traffic safety before her work for NHTSA, according to Protect the Public’s Trust. She is one of several officials that the White House has managed to wriggle into influential bureaucratic posts despite their failure to clear the Senate confirmation process. “Presidential nominees must earn their positions through constitutionally sanctioned procedures, not through back-door attempts to thwart the separation of powers in an effort to enact an administration’s preferred policy outcomes,” the complaint reads. “The Office of Inspector General should immediately investigate these violations of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act and prevent Ms. Carlson from engaging in any further ultra vires activities.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 8, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 11:21 PM, Ron Wagner said: This all makes sense for an Island nation or anyone who wants to drive around in a small area with lots of electrical service. I am curious to see how Tesla does with its new economy car. Ron being an island makes no difference at all. Its all to do with infrastructure build out. Most people charge their EV's at night (cheaper and its just convenient to do so) or when they're at work. Its rare someone will drive 250+ miles in a day (average EV battery distance) and I would say the same applies to the average American as per this survey which says 25.9 miles. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1007157/us-daily-miles-per-driver/ I can't imagine much has changed since this survey in 2017 and the trend is coming downwards. If these numbers are correct then the average hybrid will get you wherever youre going each day just using the battery, let alone an EV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 8, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 6:55 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: Interesting commentary...VW seems to have run into a few speed bumps, just nasty little things. VW will cut staffing at key German EV plant VW's Zwickau plant is the automaker's largest EV production site in Europe. VW had planned to give permanent employment to 540 staff hired in recent years on limited contracts but says it is no longer able to do so for 269 of those staff https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/vw-cut-ev-production-zwickau-germany According to Eco theres a recession which is negatively affecting the oil price, doesnt it also affect other industries too?? Asking for that friend of yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 707 November 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Ron being an island makes no difference at all. Its all to do with infrastructure build out. Most people charge their EV's at night (cheaper and its just convenient to do so) or when they're at work. Its rare someone will drive 250+ miles in a day (average EV battery distance) and I would say the same applies to the average American as per this survey which says 25.9 miles. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1007157/us-daily-miles-per-driver/ I can't imagine much has changed since this survey in 2017 and the trend is coming downwards. If these numbers are correct then the average hybrid will get you wherever youre going each day just using the battery, let alone an EV. Population density and commuting distances make a big difference between Americans and most Europeans. I just got back from an 8,000 mile vacation. It is hard to have a lot of EV charging infrastructure along Route 66, from Los Angeles to Seattle, and Seattle to Illinois. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,007 GE November 8, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said: Population density and commuting distances make a big difference between Americans and most Europeans. I just got back from an 8,000 mile vacation. It is hard to have a lot of EV charging infrastructure along Route 66, from Los Angeles to Seattle, and Seattle to Illinois. Vacations are not commutes so that is not a logical comparison. They have gas stations everywhere and a charging station is much cheaper, easier to build and requires no employees. Easy. The Tran-Canada highway is fully electrified and is a very long road. https://www.petro-canada.ca/en/personal/fuel/canadas-electric-highway So what you see as difficult is just small mindedness / conservative attachment to the past. Edited November 8, 2023 by TailingsPond 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 November 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said: Population density and commuting distances make a big difference between Americans and most Europeans. I just got back from an 8,000 mile vacation. It is hard to have a lot of EV charging infrastructure along Route 66, from Los Angeles to Seattle, and Seattle to Illinois. That is ridiculous! There is already a lot of ev charging along Route 66 and more is on the way. Electricity is all along the highway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM November 8, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: That is ridiculous! There is already a lot of ev charging along Route 66 and more is on the way. Electricity is all along the highway. and if your driving 8000 miles ya gotta stop and sleep once in awhile hotels typically let you charge for free............... Top 5 Hotel Chains That Currently Offer EV Charging As of right now, some of the biggest hotel chains in the world have committed to ensuring their locations have EV charging options for their guests. These numbers continue to rise, but luckily, you can find at least a few popular chains with EV chargers readily available for many people. 1. Holiday Inn Holiday Inn leads the charge when it comes to installing electric vehicle chargers at their locations across the globe. This hospitality company has already installed electric vehicle chargers at nearly 800 locations worldwide. In 2018, Holiday Inn announced they were adding an additional 5,000 EV charging stations in Europe thanks to the generous donations from Volkswagen. 2. Hilton At Hilton hotels, they’ve also hopped on board and offer four different types of charging stations: the Tesla wall-charging unit (only compatible with Tesla cars), GE WattStation, DuraStation brands (universal chargers), and EV Connect. Hilton’s continued partnership with GE will only continue to thrive and expand to their entire hotel catalog, which is vital to keeping up with their sustainable customer base. 3. Best Western Dominic Speno, Owner of Best Western Plus Villa Del Lago in California, said in 2015 that “Installing ChargePoint smart EV charging stations not only attracts new customers but also helps us achieve our own sustainability goals in addition to supporting those of our guests. ChargePoint smart chargers have made my hotel a more attractive destination for EV drivers, boosted our brand as a leader in green initiatives, and helped us achieve excellent reviews on reputed portals like TripAdvisor.com.” This is just one small piece of the sustainable pie that has led to thousands of EV chargers being installed at Best Western hotels across the country in the last five years. 4. Marriott At Marriott hotels, guests are accommodated with accessible, fast EV charging stations. As of right now, there are more than 3,137 charging stations for electric vehicles at these hotels. The “Level 2” charging stations can now be used by guests to charge their EVs at these hotels. Most Marriott locations offer this as a free service, although fees may be charged at some locations. Source: Plugshare.com 5. Radisson Radisson hotels have partnered with Tesla to bring convenient, fast-charging to their Tesla-owning guests. It is unclear whether they are expanding to other brands or versions of EV chargers, but for right now, guests can charge at any Destination Charger for free. Also, some locations will have charging options for EVs that use the Type 2 inlet. Call ahead to be sure! Edited November 8, 2023 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Smee + 13 SS November 8, 2023 My phev is a great car, infact it’s that good I’ve decided, I’m not going full electric until I retire in 16 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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