notsonice + 1,284 DM January 3 (edited) On 12/16/2024 at 10:30 AM, TailingsPond said: Update just one hour later valuation up to 1.44T Meanwhile fossil car company Ford down to 39.9B. Hmm did Tesla valuation increase by the entire value of the Ford company in one hour? ENTHALPIC...Yes.... you..... the Big E ............or are you hiding from your past.... ok so you call yourself TailingsPond now I am wondering why you have not been posting any info on Tesla in the past 2 weeks?????????????  have you been paying attention to its deliveries............falling.....oh my ....seens like Elons fortunes are reversing themselves and the same is happening with all the suckers who bought his stock recently....... how is that valuation......................up another 50 billion a day???????????? oh wait Tesla has cratered and is now down over 20 percent in the past 2 weeks just a little math Tesla lost over 300 Billion ....yep Billion dollars in just 2 weeks...and poof all of your pumping of Elon has been for nothing  2025????? Cyrstal Ball....US sales will drop by 30 percent???????? what do you think????????? Go out and buy a Tesla...Elon could use some of your money love...........  the market cap today 1.19 T......you see it is all a pyramid that is collapsing....valuation with nothing to back it ....just a smoke screen of a company that has a real crappy P/E and a CEO who should have stuck to business and stayed out of politics .......and Tesla now is just ....welll a pipe dream that is sold to suckers such as yourself that post how great Tesla is. Looks like both the Greenies and the MAGAs are not buying into the Elon BS anymore CNBC Tesla shares slide after it reports first drop in annual deliveries 11 hours ago Market Summary > Tesla Inc 379.28 USD-24.56 (-6.08%)today Closed: Jan 2, 7:40 PM EST • Disclaimer After hours 382.83 +3.55 Edited January 3 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexington green + 24 LG January 3 (edited)   Norway set yet another record in electric vehicle (EV) market share in 2024, as nine out of ten new passenger car sales were battery EVs, data from the Norwegian Road Federation OFV showed on Thursday. A total of 88.9% of all new passenger car sales were battery EVs, up from 82.4% in 2023, according to the data. Tesla Model Y was the best-selling car in Norway last year, followed by Tesla Model 3, Volvo EX30, Volkswagen ID.4, and Toyota bZ4X. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/89-of-New-Cars-Sold-in-Norway-Last-Year-Were-EVs.html  Edited January 3 by lexington green Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danlxyz + 65 DF January 3 I see there was another fire in a Tesla P/U truck on New Years day. Those stainless steel bodies are tough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sanches + 190 January 4 Here in the Midwest, we are starting a 7 day period of daily highs from 10 - 20 degrees Farenheit. EV owners who don't have home charging should have a lot of fun. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sanches + 190 January 4 (edited) A Chevrolet Camaro (3.6 litre V6) is over 156,000 dollars here in Norway (if I were to import). Why? Value-added tax = 9,000 dollars Tax for the weight of the car = 15,000 dollars Engine tax (horepowers mostly) = 27,000 dollars CO2 tax = 72,000 dollars N0x-tax (nitrogen oxide) = 1000 dollars First-time registration (to get license plates, don't know what this is called in us) = 115,000 dollars In case you want-to-scrap-your-car-tax = 400 dollars Total taxes for a Chevrolet Camarao V6? 125,000 dollars. This does not, of course, include shipping, insurance, gas, so on. EV's are exempt from taxes, except for the weight tax. I think EV sales would explode in the USA if the government put a $110,000 tax on ICE vehicles. Edited January 4 by Michael Sanches 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sanches + 190 January 4 Read an interesting article on range anxiety. The anxiety is not so much from worrying about driving too far on a charge. It is more from our experience of just realizing our phone/tablet/laptop is dead or close to dead because we got distracted and forgot to charge it. Not a worry for those who have never done this. But, for the rest of us who have the occasional brain fart, it is a negative inducement to go EV. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,016 GE January 4 6 hours ago, Michael Sanches said: Read an interesting article on range anxiety. The anxiety is not so much from worrying about driving too far on a charge. It is more from our experience of just realizing our phone/tablet/laptop is dead or close to dead because we got distracted and forgot to charge it. Not a worry for those who have never done this. But, for the rest of us who have the occasional brain fart, it is a negative inducement to go EV. If you wish to compare EVs to cell phones you should have noticed the vast improvement in performance over time. My first smart phone was an HTC desire HD. It was slow and the battery lasted like 3 hours if you were actually playing on it. Fast forward to now and my Samsung S23+ can easily last all day while also being much more powerful. Second point is "brain farts" are not restricted to EV's. I have neglected to "recharge" my ICE car more than once in my life. Jerry cans exist.  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,016 GE January 4 (edited) 7 hours ago, Michael Sanches said:  EV owners who don't have home charging should have a lot of fun. Nobody is having fun driving in extreme cold. I live in the north where people plug in block heaters that don't even charge the battery. Also most everyone carries booster cables in the trunk because lead acid batteries suck in the cold. As for charging stations they are everywhere here now. All hotels, most shopping malls, etc. have them. Edited January 4 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Ecocharger + 1,523 DL January 21 EV sales will now collapse in the U.S. with the removal of EV supports from government. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,016 GE January 21 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: EV sales will now collapse in the U.S. with the removal of EV supports from government. No they will not. Tesla will undercut its competitors who need that incentive. Tesla has way more money than its EV (and fossil) competitors - they have what is called a "war chest."  Crush the competition at a loss or just use greater manufacturing efficiency. How stupid do you have to be that Trump will do something that Musk doesn't want? Stop pretending you know anything about business or the economy. How is your "soaring" oil price prediction going? Edited January 21 by TailingsPond 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexington green + 24 LG Sunday at 05:22 PM (edited)  'In 2024, global sales of electric vehicles (EVs) reached a record 17.1 million units, a 25% increase from 2023. This represented more than one in five cars sold worldwide.'  (powder metallurgy review)  China: EV sales in China grew by 40% in 2024, with over 1.3 million units sold in December Europe: The European market ended 2024 down 3% compared to 2023 North America: The U.S. and Canada market grew by 9% in 2024  In Merriam Webster, the definition of collapse is: 'to fall or shrink together abruptly and completely : fall into a jumbled or flattened mass through the force of external pressure' Edited Sunday at 05:26 PM by lexington green addition 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,523 DL yesterday at 05:52 PM On 2/2/2025 at 12:22 PM, lexington green said:  'In 2024, global sales of electric vehicles (EVs) reached a record 17.1 million units, a 25% increase from 2023. This represented more than one in five cars sold worldwide.'  (powder metallurgy review)  China: EV sales in China grew by 40% in 2024, with over 1.3 million units sold in December Europe: The European market ended 2024 down 3% compared to 2023 North America: The U.S. and Canada market grew by 9% in 2024  In Merriam Webster, the definition of collapse is: 'to fall or shrink together abruptly and completely : fall into a jumbled or flattened mass through the force of external pressure' Your time frames are not clear, there was a slowdown in North American EV sales, and German EV sales dropped by 27% on the year. That is a collapse compared to the official government plans. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sanches + 190 6 hours ago The most important Tesla news is that Elon's Roadster that he shot into space has completed its' journey around the sun and was mistaken for an asteroid. "Look, up in the sky." "It's an alien!" "It's an asteroid!" "It's Elon's Tesla Roadster!!!"  🤣🤣🤣 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,284 DM 4 hours ago (edited) On 2/4/2025 at 10:52 AM, Ecocharger said: Your time frames are not clear, there was a slowdown in North American EV sales, and German EV sales dropped by 27% on the year. That is a collapse compared to the official government plans. yet your claims of a collapse are proven to be BS once again Your time frames are not clear???????? the post was quite clear that 2024 sales increased over 2023 sales by 25 % .....no collapse at all and you got a degree in Econ??????? from an accredited university????? you are only fooling yourself with your bs claims 'In 2024, global sales of electric vehicles (EVs) reached a record 17.1 million units, a 25% increase from 2023. This represented more than one in five cars sold worldwide.' Edited 4 hours ago by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,523 DL 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: yet your claims of a collapse are proven to be BS once again Your time frames are not clear???????? the post was quite clear that 2024 sales increased over 2023 sales by 25 % .....no collapse at all and you got a degree in Econ??????? from an accredited university????? you are only fooling yourself with your bs claims 'In 2024, global sales of electric vehicles (EVs) reached a record 17.1 million units, a 25% increase from 2023. This represented more than one in five cars sold worldwide.' Yes, your numbers are nonsense with no time frames. I guess you never studied mathematics or statistics, buddy. You are apparently very disappointed that you did not obtain an economics degree from a prominent department, like I did. Too bad. It is clear that the growth in EV sales has collapsed, and with the new changes in government policies removing the incentives for any rational person to buy an EV, much worse is in store for you and your agenda going forward. You may borrow my handkerchief again and weep some more. You made your choice and it failed. Edited 2 hours ago by Ecocharger 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,016 GE 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Yes, your numbers are nonsense with no time frames. I guess you never studied mathematics or statistics, buddy.  I already explained the math. fd(x) =! f'(x). You fail to understand simple calculus. There is one well-known exemption to the above, if you studied math you could point it out for me to demonstrate your knowledge. In other news, how is your soaring oil price prediction going? Down is down.  Edited 2 hours ago by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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