TailingsPond + 1,013 GE November 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: I have, production value per share is what counts to anyone who can do math. Not gambler stock price. There is nothing special about an electric car. Tesla stock price is 100% being bounced by government subsidy. Without it they would collapse. Tesla wants the subsidies removed. They want other EV manufacturers to suffer, they have more than enough money to weather the storm. Smaller manufactures do not have as big a war chest (less than half the money). It is a long-term plan that long-term investors think will work. Company valuation is not the company gambling. You could argue the investors themselves are gambling but the company is not, people are sending them perfectly good money. They gained 3.7% in one day! 3.7% of 1.04 trillion is a massive amount of incoming money. Bumped their market cap to 1.08T +$3,848,000,0000 in one day. That is real money coming in from investors. Do the math on that! They could now just operate like a bank and not make any damn cars. Edited November 30 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,485 DL December 4 On 11/30/2024 at 10:15 AM, TailingsPond said: Tesla wants the subsidies removed. They want other EV manufacturers to suffer, they have more than enough money to weather the storm. Smaller manufactures do not have as big a war chest (less than half the money). It is a long-term plan that long-term investors think will work. Company valuation is not the company gambling. You could argue the investors themselves are gambling but the company is not, people are sending them perfectly good money. They gained 3.7% in one day! 3.7% of 1.04 trillion is a massive amount of incoming money. Bumped their market cap to 1.08T +$3,848,000,0000 in one day. That is real money coming in from investors. Do the math on that! They could now just operate like a bank and not make any damn cars. How much of Tesla is actually owned by Musk? A miniscule percentage. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 5 2 hours ago, Ecocharger said: How much of Tesla is actually owned by Musk? A miniscule percentage. Who cares? The topic was Tesla valuation not Musk's wealth. Tesla went up even more 1.12T valuation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 10 (edited) Tesla hit 1.26 T valuation today. Look above ^ on Dec 4th it was 1.12T Do some math on that EV collapse. Can you do the math? Can you figure out how many billions per day they have made? They are now worth about three times as much as Ford with a mere 42 B valuation. Edited December 10 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 10 At some point the failed economists here have to look at reality or accept they suck at their job. If they can't pick stocks (Tesla up) "I don't pick stocks" or market forces "oil will hit $100 by New years 2023" what value do they add? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 10 2 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Tesla hit 1.26 T valuation today. Look above ^ on Dec 4th it was 1.12T Do some math on that EV collapse. Can you do the math? Can you figure out how many billions per day they have made? They are now worth about three times as much as Ford with a mere 42 B valuation. They are now worth about three times as much as Ford with a mere 42 B valuation.????? you suck at math.......are you capable of simple math???????? your above statement shows you should stick to planting beets Teslas Capital assets are worth less than 50 billion........and their market valuation.....Tulips.......with a market valuation of 30 times what Ford is worth and with an a profit of less than 0.3 percent of their valuation.....Tesla stock is like crypto currency just alot of smoke behind its stock value. Tesla unit sales are flat this year and they now have no order backlog anymore..........A company that's sales are stalled out for the past 6 quarters (please be aware over the past 6 quarters Tesla was working off their order backlog.......no more of that going forward) Expect deliveries to go down in 2025 How will that affect the stock valuation......Idled capacity today as they no longer have back orders to fill and at the same as they are building a new plant capacity in Germany??? Mexico dreams are now toast....Competition in China will result is less profit for Tesla..........Profit will fall at the same times deliveries are slated to fall Good luck with your smoke and mirrors..... Tesla missed the boat and does not have a plug in hybrid.............the market has shifted this past year while Elon was off dancing with the Guy who hates the Green Agenda Investor's Business Daily Tesla And Elon Musk Target Vehicle Delivery Growth In 2024. But It's Unlikely. Tesla (TSLA) has said it expects "slight" vehicle deliveries growth this year, but with the end of the fourth quarter fast approaching,... . 5 days ago The Guardian Tesla misses estimates for third-quarter deliveries amid stiff competition EV maker delivered 462,890 vehicles in three months to 30 September while Wall street expected on average 469,828. Reuters. Wed 2 Oct 2024... . Oct 2, 2024 CnEVPost Tesla Q3 revenue misses estimates while EPS and margins beat Tesla said it expects to achieve slight growth in vehicle deliveries in 2024 despite ongoing macroeconomic conditions. . 1 month ago 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, notsonice said: They are now worth about three times as much as Ford with a mere 42 B valuation.????? You continue to pretend market caps do not matter. Yes, they are worth way more than 3 times. Do banks have to make cars to make money? Tesla now has more money than many banks. Answer that question - do banks have to make a tangible, real physical product to make money? Tesla does not need to make cars any more. They own the executive branch and have 1.26T in valuation. For real, listed on a regulated market. Is bitcoin a real product in your mind? It is nothing but block chained large prime numbers - yet look at the valuation. Spout off all you want, the market forces don't care what you think. There is extreme investor confidence in Tesla - that is what is making them insane amounts of money. P.S. Ford fell today to less than 42B. Can you do the math comparing 1.26 trillion and 41.97B? Follow the money, not car deliveries.. You relate to the guys trying to sell cars in some parking lot - the real money is made by jerks playing golf and you just can't understand that reality. Hate the game not the player. Edited December 11 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 475 December 11 On 11/7/2024 at 9:30 AM, TailingsPond said: They will tariff the crap out them unless Musk has factories there. Tesla does have another largest EV factory in Shanghai, China. It was built by a river... Not sure if severe flooding has impacted this location. It was also built on huge sum of borrowed money. Shall Tesla miss payments of interest for some times, this bank might go bust... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 475 December 11 (edited) 5 hours ago, TailingsPond said: You continue to pretend market caps do not matter. Yes, they are worth way more than 3 times. Do banks have to make cars to make money? Tesla now has more money than many banks. Answer that question - do banks have to make a tangible, real physical product to make money? Tesla does not need to make cars any more. They own the executive branch and have 1.26T in valuation. For real, listed on a regulated market. Is bitcoin a real product in your mind? It is nothing but block chained large prime numbers - yet look at the valuation. Spout off all you want, the market forces don't care what you think. There is extreme investor confidence in Tesla - that is what is making them insane amounts of money. P.S. Ford fell today to less than 42B. Can you do the math comparing 1.26 trillion and 41.97B? Follow the money, not car deliveries.. You relate to the guys trying to sell cars in some parking lot - the real money is made by jerks playing golf and you just can't understand that reality. Hate the game not the player. Bitcoin is a SCAM game that rolls bigger and bigger. There are people who put in a lot of expectation on this to dodge hands of government on their money before they know how it works. The scam becomes very lucrative, ~ hundred millions to billions per year scamming income in SEA. Human traffickers traffic people who are attracted by fake advertisement for high pay jobs into another country (ies), force them to make scamming phone calls on investing in bitcoins. If they do not meet the target assigned, they will be tortured. A few managed to run away and get help from the embassy. But those lawless traffickers asked family and government for ransom before the release. Instead of being captured, punished or killed, those outlaws brag they own the police force and have immunity to kill. Not even royalty, they give a damn, but shot at the complex next to their visiting hotel in Thailand as a warning. Children and relatives of rich are involved. Including former premier of Singapore, scamming former Malaysian leader father and now the son residing in Singapore, drug addicts-dealers with brothers and sisters placed as personal assistants/ secretaries to the rich or as top officers of a country in relevant departments and a bunch of those who grew up alike. One of them set up a tech payment company in complex of Temasek Holdings. All secretes of companies in the same building, especially Temasek Holdings, probably disclosed without anyone realizes. Temasek is the target. Within a decade, it would probably be gone. Back to bitcoin. Common sense dictates how it works. It is a peer to peer transfer within a small circle. The starting physical gold minted bitcoins might worth a little. Some of them turned greedy somehow. They sell bitcoins without issuing the coins. Money keeps rolling in as many would like to be in the market before others. They make it to the news until government is alerted. With IMF persuaded to adopt it, Goldman Sachs accepted its trading etc, the price shot up from USD $1 per coin to USD$ 400, then to few thousands, tens of thousands and now hundred of thousands. It's a magic chant. People are still buying in.... What kind of value could you give to a coin you do not have at hands? Not even a certificate or proof of purchase? How much do you price air? Any value as wish, as long as you do not need to pay for it? If someone would like to sell you 1 unit 100ml of atmospheric air for 100k, would you buy it? No? Coins holders can not sell invisible asset they purchased with real money, earned with sweat and blood. Sequential from that, they opened up virtual investment space. You buy a drawing of a red empty circle ⭕, at the price of $500k. You can pay it with bitcoins. Or, you buy a PHOTO of a duct taped banana for $2 millions, or a virtual space you call home for $5 millions, etc. It's amazing, most of those who jump into this ETF or NFT thingy are well educated. Taking another good look, when you have mass involvement, it would operate like an old bank, wouldn't it? Except it is not secure without physical presence of money and bank/ institutions that take your money. When they scroll up their flying mat, you money vanishes with them. The right thing to do is probably give government ways to keep your money in your pockets. Teach them what to do if they do not know. When the voice is loud enough, they will hear and give in. Edited December 11 by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 11 (edited) Tesla way up once again today (4.28%). Market cap now 1.31 T Yesterday it was 1.26. That's right they made 0.05 trillion in less than a day. Tell me more about their suffering and the collapse of EV. LOL Meanwhile Ford fell another 1.6% falling to mere 41.3 billion market cap. Eventually this should start to sink in to even the most resistant failed economists. Tesla increased in value by more than the entire value of Ford in in one day. Edited December 11 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 11 3 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Tesla way up once again today (4.28%). Market cap now 1.31 T Yesterday it was 1.26. That's right they made 0.5 trillion in less than a day. Tell me more about their suffering and the collapse of EV. LOL Meanwhile Ford fell another 1.6% falling to mere 41.3 billion market cap. Eventually this should start to sink in to even the most resistant failed economists. Tesla increased in value by more than the entire value of Ford in in one day. up again on what news????? That's right they made 0.5 trillion in less than a day. ???? 500 billion in one day??? so the company went from .81 trillion to 1.31 Trillion in one day??? that would be .5 trillion dude you need to stop using drugs as you clearly are not capable of doing simple math Is anyone going to pay 1.31 Trillion to buy out Tesla....that answer is no and from that you have a grossly inflated stock would any pay 500 Billion for Tesla in a takeover ....off course not...... any Institutional investors jumping in right now and buying??????? nope.....when the stock corrects theinstitutional investors will flee faster than shit and the correction in Tesla will be ugly (to the suckers who are buying it today)...... Remember why the Stock market crashed in 1929????? read up on a little history it crashed because of overspeculation in overvalued stocks that were not worth anywhere near the market valuations prior to the crash........Tesla fits the bill............ any Institutional investors jumping in right now??????? good luck finding them Recent examples of big crashes ............2008 Housing bubble...that sure screwed alot of speculators that jumped in 2006 and 2007 buying housing Right now Teslas price is fueled by overspeculation in its stock which is all fueled by the thought that some how in the near future that level 5 AV's will be allowed to run on any road in the US (you will need major tort reform to happen on both a federal and state level..............good luck on that happening in the next 5 years as all that is allowed on the roads today is level 3 Levels of Vehicle Autonomy SAE defines six levels of autonomy, starting from: Level 0 — No automation (the driver controls everything). Level 1 — Basic driver assistance (e.g., cruise control). Level 2 — Partial automation (cars can assist with braking and steering, but the driver remains engaged). Level 3 — Conditional automation (the car handles driving in certain conditions, but the driver must take control when prompted). Level 4 — High automation (the car can handle most situations, but human intervention may be needed in complex scenarios). Level 5 — Full automation: no steering wheel or pedals. The car is 100% autonomous. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 11 (edited) 23 hours ago, TailingsPond said: You continue to pretend market caps do not matter. Yes, they are worth way more than 3 times. Do banks have to make cars to make money? Tesla now has more money than many banks. Answer that question - do banks have to make a tangible, real physical product to make money? Tesla does not need to make cars any more. They own the executive branch and have 1.26T in valuation. For real, listed on a regulated market. Is bitcoin a real product in your mind? It is nothing but block chained large prime numbers - yet look at the valuation. Spout off all you want, the market forces don't care what you think. There is extreme investor confidence in Tesla - that is what is making them insane amounts of money. P.S. Ford fell today to less than 42B. Can you do the math comparing 1.26 trillion and 41.97B? Follow the money, not car deliveries.. You relate to the guys trying to sell cars in some parking lot - the real money is made by jerks playing golf and you just can't understand that reality. Hate the game not the player. Tesla now has more money than many banks????? what are you smoking look at Teslas ballance sheet their cash on hand is about the same as their short and long term liabilties aprroxiametly 35 Billion Tesla has less cash than Ford.........(Ford has 45 Billion in caah and Fords total assets 250 Billion) you keep smoking your ditch weed thinking Tesla is worth more than 50 billion... PS the compaines valuation is so far out of line when you look at its assets........smells of market manipulation .........and when a market is manipulated , there will be massive losses Teslas balance sheet...... do we need to get an Economist to explain to you what it means??????? total shareholder equity is 60 Billion .....not 1.3 Trillion..........good luck with moving that shareholder equity over 100 billion in the next 5 years........... Edited December 12 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 11 (edited) 18 minutes ago, notsonice said: up again on what news????? Who cares on what news? They made the money. Up is up, money is money. Yes I made a typo but I wrote +0.05T in one day correctly in the other thread. Fact remains Telsa is now worth 1.33T. Look at the bloody charts yourself. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Tesla+stock+price Edited December 11 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 11 1 minute ago, notsonice said: Tesla now has more money than many banks????? what are you smoking look at Teslas ballance sheet their cash on hand is about the same as their short and long term liabilties Can you not look up a companies valuation for yourself? https://www.emarketer.com/insights/largest-banks-us-list/ Tesla is worth more than the 5th largest bank in the USA; at this rate of growth will move up to 4th in a few days. Deny reality all you want - car sales do not matter; but they actually do sell a bunch of cars. They make the most sold model of car in the world (model Y). https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=most+sold+model+of+car+in+world Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 11 (edited) 12 minutes ago, notsonice said: Tesla now has more money than many banks????? what are you smoking look at Teslas ballance sheet their cash on hand is about the same as their short and long term liabilties They do not need cash on hand. Their stocks can be used as assets for credit instruments. You really do not understand how money is created. Investor confidence is king, not action on some dealer parking lot. You have to answer how they grow in wealth so much. Edited December 11 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 11 Owning the executive branch has benefits. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/11/tesla-reaches-record-boosted-by-64percent-pop-since-trump-election-victory.html "Musk poured $277 million into a pro-Trump campaign effort, according to Federal Election Commission filings, and turned his support for the Republican nominee into another full-time job ahead of the election" Fact remains Telsa is now worth 1.33T. The failed economists here can share tissues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 12 55 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: Owning the executive branch has benefits. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/11/tesla-reaches-record-boosted-by-64percent-pop-since-trump-election-victory.html "Musk poured $277 million into a pro-Trump campaign effort, according to Federal Election Commission filings, and turned his support for the Republican nominee into another full-time job ahead of the election" Fact remains Telsa is now worth 1.33T. The failed economists here can share tissues. go ahead an buy out Tesla.....mortgage everything you own.......you will be richy rich stock prices do not mean something is worth the total valuation you see today ...............just a bunch of crazies driving up the price with the real assets only worth 1/20th of the stock valuation..........only a sucker will think the value of Tesla is 1.33 Trillion..... like cryptocurrency .................and the assets behind it????????? smoke Musk might have spent milions trying to buy out Trump.....remember Trump is not King........good luck on Elons dream of robotaxis on the streets in 2025.............. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 12 (edited) this is for the one who loves getting high sniffing Elons rear end Seeking Alpha Tesla: Declining Sales Growth & Potential Margin Compression (NASDAQ:TSLA) Tesla's Q3 2024 revenue growth decelerated to 8% YoY, with automotive gross margins dropping. Read why I downgrade TSLA stock from sell to... . 16 hours ago CnEVPost Automakers' share of China NEV market in Nov: BYD tops with 32.9%, Tesla 4th with 5.8% In the January-November period, BYD ranked first in China's NEV market with a 34.5 percent share, while Tesla ranked third with a 6.0... . 1 day ago Kelley Blue Book Tesla Pushes Leasing as Sales Decline Tesla is advertising new leases and allowing lessees to buy cars at the end of their lease period in a push to increase deliveries. . 2 days ago what a dog... no self respecting person would be caught dead driving one of these on a construction site...... Elon must be smoking some real good shit when he came up with this disaster Carscoops Feds Looking Into Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash That Killed Three Teens The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has confirmed it's looking into a recent fatal crash involving a Tesla Cybertruck... . 2 days ago can you smell recall with that fire?????? Torque News Tesla Management Says the Torn-up Fabric on the Cybertruck Dash Exposing an Ugly Yellow Foam is “Normal Fitment,” Adds, “If One Was Replaced Dash Will Look the Same” A Cybertruck owner who took his truck in for service due to a torn-up dashboard with visible yellow foam says Tesla told him this is “normal... . 2 days ago autoevolution Gold-Plated Tesla Cybertruck Sells for Way Under MRSP, the Owner Invested So Much in It! The gold-plated Tesla Cybertruck sold for just $102,000, which does not even cover the MSRP of this Foundation Series version covered in... . 2 days ago Edited December 12 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 12 (edited) 7 hours ago, notsonice said: stock prices do not mean something is worth the total valuation you see today ...............just a bunch of crazies driving up the price with the real assets only worth 1/20th of the stock valuation You buy low and sell high. It is not a hard as you think. Company fundamentals do not change valuations like you think. For some remedial education read about Gamestop shorting. You can make money off a garbage company. Good grief this forum needs many lectures of how empiricism beats flawed ideologies. What is 1/20th of 1.33T? You accept that Tesla is worth 1/20th of their valuation - that still makes them insanely rich.. Also remember the CEO owns the POTUS elect. Edited December 12 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,553 December 12 On 12/10/2024 at 11:52 PM, specinho said: How much do you price air? Any value as wish, as long as you do not need to pay for it? You need to get your hands on a copy of "Donald Duck and the Golden Helmet". A fantastic story, and terrific artwork! Carl Barks at his finest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Helmet "The helmet, an object of power, has the same effect on each of its successive owners: A cold glitter in their eyes betrays awakening greed and ambitions, as they become more ruthless, each of them in turn revealing the dreams of a would-be tyrant. Donald goes so far as to suggest charging for oxygen, with people wearing meters on their chests to keep track of how much they breathe". "A penny a breath, a nickle per sigh" (from the comic itself). It is high praise to say a comic book story has no throwaway panels, but this yarn illustrates that concept. Every picture tells a story. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 12 17 minutes ago, turbguy said: You need to get your hands on a copy of "Donald Duck and the Golden Helmet". A fantastic story, and terrific artwork! Carl Barks at his finest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Helmet "The helmet, an object of power, has the same effect on each of its successive owners: A cold glitter in their eyes betrays awakening greed and ambitions, as they become more ruthless, each of them in turn revealing the dreams of a would-be tyrant. Donald goes so far as to suggest charging for oxygen, with people wearing meters on their chests to keep track of how much they breathe". "A penny a breath, a nickle per sigh" (from the comic itself). It is high praise to say a comic book story has no throwaway panels, but this yarn illustrates that concept. Every picture tells a story. Canadian air is clean, some guys years back started a company selling our clean air in cans. They make money doing it. Sad that some here do not value air quality - they will eventually value it when they are gasping their dying breath. https://vitalityair.com/products/twin-pack-banff-air-8l?variant=7076768514108 320 breaths of our air for $25 plus shipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, TailingsPond said: You buy low and sell high. It is not a hard as you think. Company fundamentals do not change valuations like you think. For some remedial education read about Gamestop shorting. You can make money off a garbage company. Good grief this forum needs many lectures of how empiricism beats flawed ideologies. What is 1/20th of 1.33T? You accept that Tesla is worth 1/20th of their valuation - that still makes them insanely rich.. Also remember the CEO owns the POTUS elect. Owns??? Trump going to buy 1 million Teslas a year?????....you think his supporters will buy a Tesla????? ha ha ha Enjoy all the free advertising that is now on the rear of many Teslas...not exactly what one wants on the car you are trying to make money off of............ The New York Times Tesla Owners Use Bumper Stickers to Express Feelings About Elon Musk As Elon Musk has become a key player in President-elect Donald J. Trump's world, Tesla owners are marking their cars to signify where they... . 1 day ago Axios Tesla owners use bumper stickers to sound off about Musk's role in the Trump administration Teslas make a statement, now literally — a growing number of owners are using bumper stickers to disassociate themselves from billionaire... . 7 hours ago The Seattle Times For Tesla owners, a referendum through bumper stickers It was the last week of October, with the election fast approaching, and business was booming for Matthew Hiller. . 15 hours ago MSN Tesla owners use bumper stickers to sound off about Musk's role in the Trump administration Teslas make a statement, now literally — a growing number of owners are using bumper stickers to disassociate themselves from billionaire CEO Elon Musk as... . 23 hours ago Fast Company ‘I bought this before Elon went crazy’: These anti-Musk bumper stickers are Amazon bestsellers These bumper stickers let other drivers know that you may drive a Tesla, but you're no fan of Elon Musk. And they just became top sellers on... . 1 month ago Heatmap News Tesla Owners Buying Up ‘Insane’ Number of Anti-Elon Musk Bumper Stickers Hiller's side hustle, Mad Puffer Stickers, gives Tesla owners a way to disavow the company's CEO in the form of a no Elon sticker, an Anti-Elon... . 1 month ago InsideEVs Anti-Elon Musk Tesla Bumper Sticker Sales Booming Post-Election The guy behind those anti-Elon Musk bumper stickers for your Tesla says sales are "insane" right now. . 1 month ago Electrek Anti-Elon bumper sticker business gives insights into Tesla owners turning against him A business selling anti-Elon Musk bumper stickers is providing some insight into Tesla owners turning against the company's CEO. . 2 weeks ago SFGATE Bumper stickers roasting Elon Musk are suddenly very popular in California Anti-Elon Musk bumper stickers, many for Tesla owners, are selling fast at a Hawaii man's online shop. California and SF residents are... . 2 weeks ago Benzinga Tesla Owners Who Don't Like Musk Are Letting Bumper Stickers Do The Talking - Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Zinger Key Points ... CEO Elon Musk angered some existing owners of vehicles made by the electric vehicle company. People who are embarrassed to... . 4 weeks ago Page Navigation Edited December 12 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 12 (edited) 54 minutes ago, notsonice said: Owns??? Trump going to buy 1 million Teslas a year?????....you think his supporters will buy a Tesla????? ha ha ha Enjoy all the free advertising that is now on the rear of many Teslas...not exactly what one wants on the car you are trying to make money off of As I said I before I do not directly invest in Tesla. I do, however, observe the reality of their massive valuation. I have also explained more than once that production and sales of a tangible product like a car is not required to make money. Did you compare the top bank's valuations with Tesla? Did you look or just hang onto ignorance? How do you feel about peak Bitcoin? At some point you need to understand investor confidence is worth more than a product. I can only spoon feed you so much. How many physical products does Facebook sell? Edited December 12 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 12 (edited) 21 hours ago, notsonice said: Tesla now has more money than many banks?? Did you look or hold onto ignorance? Don't be like the resident failed economist who will never answer simple questions. I answer questions -- show me the same respect. Debate like a gentleman, use your own words, not a bunch of links. Face it, you guys are just not on my level. Edited December 12 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 12 58 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: Did you look or hold onto ignorance? Don't be like the resident failed economist who will never answer simple questions. I answer questions -- show me the same respect. Debate like a gentleman, use your own words, not a bunch of links. Face it, you guys are just not on my level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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