Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 8, 2023 (edited) Meanwhile just another day in paradise. Biden’s use of fake names in email could cost him BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 09/02/23 10:30 AM ET In 2020, Obama had famously warned fellow Democrats, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f— things up.” Obama is now being asked to bail Biden out from another debacle of his own making, going back to his time in Obama’s administration. Various committees and private groups are seeking more than 5,000 emails from Biden in which he used an array of aliases during the Obama administration. Under the Presidential Records Act, Obama has 30 days to bar the release of the emails and to help shield his former vice president in a growing corruption scandal over the influence-peddling operation run by Biden’s son, Hunter. https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4182940-bidens-use-of-fake-names-in-email-could-cost-him/ Edited September 8, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 874 GE September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Meanwhile just another day in paradise. Biden’s use of fake names in email could cost him BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 09/02/23 10:30 AM ET In 2020, Obama had famously warned fellow Democrats, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f— things up.” Obama is now being asked to bail Biden out from another debacle of his own making, going back to his time in Obama’s administration. Various committees and private groups are seeking more than 5,000 emails from Biden in which he used an array of aliases during the Obama administration. Under the Presidential Records Act, Obama has 30 days to bar the release of the emails and to help shield his former vice president in a growing corruption scandal over the influence-peddling operation run by Biden’s son, Hunter. https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4182940-bidens-use-of-fake-names-in-email-could-cost-him/ Do you understand that persecuting Biden's family will not reinstate Trump, nor will it stop the criminal trails against him? Your writings make it sound like you still think Hunter's laptop will cause significant change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 8, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Do you understand that persecuting Biden's family will not reinstate Trump, nor will it stop the criminal trails against him? Your writings make it sound like you still think Hunter's laptop will cause significant change. Ahhh I see you have blinked, no matter let's review some fundamental aspects of this play. It will bring continuity..perhaps even focus for you. 07.20.2023 Grassley Obtains & Releases FBI Record Alleging VP Biden Foreign Bribery Scheme Grassley, Comer to continue joint inquiry into FBI handling of significant, politically charged investigations WASHINGTON – Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) today released an unclassified FBI-generated record describing an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Joe Biden and a Ukrainian business executive. Grassley acquired the record, an FD-1023, via legally protected disclosures by Justice Department whistleblowers. “For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme. While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out,” Grassley said. “The FBI’s Biden Bribery Record tracks closely with the evidence uncovered by the Oversight Committee’s Biden family influence peddling investigation. In the FBI’s record, the Burisma executive claims that he didn’t pay the ‘big guy’ directly but that he used several bank accounts to conceal the money. That sounds an awful lot like how the Bidens conduct business: using multiple bank accounts to hide the source and total amount of the money,” House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer said. “At our hearing with IRS whistleblowers, they testified that they had never seen or heard of this record during the Biden criminal investigation, despite having potentially corroborating evidence. Given the misconduct and politicization at the Department of Justice, the American people must be able to read this record for themselves. I thank Senator Grassley for providing much needed transparency to the American people. We must hold the Department of Justice accountable for seeking to bury this record to protect the Bidens.” Grassley first disclosed the FBI’s possession of significant and voluminous evidence of potential criminality involving the Biden family last year. He has since worked to unearth the FBI record, eventually partnering with Comer on a subpoena to compel its public disclosure. After delays, the FBI provided a highly redacted version of the document to select members of the House of Representatives, but it remained shielded from the public and omitted key details, including references to recordings. Following the FBI’s failure to fully comply with the congressional subpoena, Grassley received the legally protected disclosure with limited redactions to protect a trusted FBI source, handling agents, department whistleblowers and identifiers related to other ongoing investigations. Read the FD-1023 ‘Poluchili’ According to the FBI’s confidential human source, executives for Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, brought Hunter Biden on the board to “protect us through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” At the time, Burisma was seeking to do business in the United States, but was facing a corruption investigation in Ukraine, led by then-Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Regarding that investigation’s impact on its ambitions in North America, Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky reportedly said, “Don't worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad.” Zlochevsky reportedly stated that he had to pay $5 million to Hunter Biden and $5 million to Joe Biden, an arrangement he described as ‘poluchili,’ which is Russian crime slang for being “forced or coerced to pay,” according to the document. “Back-up” Zlochevsky claimed to have many text messages and recordings that show that he was coerced into paying the Bidens to ensure Shokin was fired. Specifically, he claimed to have two recordings with Joe Biden and 15 recordings with Hunter Biden. Zlochevsky also retained two documents, presumably financial records, as evidence of the arrangement, but said he didn’t send any funds directly to the “Big Guy,” a term understood to be a reference to Joe Biden. References to the “Big Guy” surfaced in communications involving other Biden family business arrangements independent of the Burisma arrangement. Zlochevsky claimed it would take investigators 10 years to uncover the illicit payments to the Bidens, according to the document. https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-obtains-and-releases-fbi-record-alleging-vp-biden-foreign-bribery-scheme Edited September 8, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 874 GE September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ahhh I see you have blinked, no matter let's review some fundamental aspects of this play. It will bring continuity..perhaps even focus for you. 07.20.2023 Grassley Obtains & Releases FBI Record Alleging VP Biden Foreign Bribery Scheme Grassley, Comer to continue joint inquiry into FBI handling of significant, politically charged investigations WASHINGTON – Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) today released an unclassified FBI-generated record describing an alleged criminal scheme involving then-Vice President Joe Biden and a Ukrainian business executive. Grassley acquired the record, an FD-1023, via legally protected disclosures by Justice Department whistleblowers. “For the better part of a year, I’ve been pushing the Justice Department and FBI to provide details on its handling of very significant allegations from a trusted FBI informant implicating then-Vice President Biden in a criminal bribery scheme. While the FBI sought to obfuscate and redact, the American people can now read this document for themselves, without the filter of politicians or bureaucrats, thanks to brave and heroic whistleblowers. What did the Justice Department and FBI do with the detailed information in the document? And why have they tried to conceal it from Congress and the American people for so long? The Justice Department and FBI have failed to come clean, but Chairman Comer and I intend to find out,” Grassley said. “The FBI’s Biden Bribery Record tracks closely with the evidence uncovered by the Oversight Committee’s Biden family influence peddling investigation. In the FBI’s record, the Burisma executive claims that he didn’t pay the ‘big guy’ directly but that he used several bank accounts to conceal the money. That sounds an awful lot like how the Bidens conduct business: using multiple bank accounts to hide the source and total amount of the money,” House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer said. “At our hearing with IRS whistleblowers, they testified that they had never seen or heard of this record during the Biden criminal investigation, despite having potentially corroborating evidence. Given the misconduct and politicization at the Department of Justice, the American people must be able to read this record for themselves. I thank Senator Grassley for providing much needed transparency to the American people. We must hold the Department of Justice accountable for seeking to bury this record to protect the Bidens.” Grassley first disclosed the FBI’s possession of significant and voluminous evidence of potential criminality involving the Biden family last year. He has since worked to unearth the FBI record, eventually partnering with Comer on a subpoena to compel its public disclosure. After delays, the FBI provided a highly redacted version of the document to select members of the House of Representatives, but it remained shielded from the public and omitted key details, including references to recordings. Following the FBI’s failure to fully comply with the congressional subpoena, Grassley received the legally protected disclosure with limited redactions to protect a trusted FBI source, handling agents, department whistleblowers and identifiers related to other ongoing investigations. Read the FD-1023 ‘Poluchili’ According to the FBI’s confidential human source, executives for Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, brought Hunter Biden on the board to “protect us through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” At the time, Burisma was seeking to do business in the United States, but was facing a corruption investigation in Ukraine, led by then-Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Regarding that investigation’s impact on its ambitions in North America, Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky reportedly said, “Don't worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad.” Zlochevsky reportedly stated that he had to pay $5 million to Hunter Biden and $5 million to Joe Biden, an arrangement he described as ‘poluchili,’ which is Russian crime slang for being “forced or coerced to pay,” according to the document. “Back-up” Zlochevsky claimed to have many text messages and recordings that show that he was coerced into paying the Bidens to ensure Shokin was fired. Specifically, he claimed to have two recordings with Joe Biden and 15 recordings with Hunter Biden. Zlochevsky also retained two documents, presumably financial records, as evidence of the arrangement, but said he didn’t send any funds directly to the “Big Guy,” a term understood to be a reference to Joe Biden. References to the “Big Guy” surfaced in communications involving other Biden family business arrangements independent of the Burisma arrangement. Zlochevsky claimed it would take investigators 10 years to uncover the illicit payments to the Bidens, according to the document. https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-obtains-and-releases-fbi-record-alleging-vp-biden-foreign-bribery-scheme What significance does this garbage have? We have to wait ten years? Biden will be dead in ten years. "Zlochevsky claimed it would take investigators 10 years to uncover the illicit payments to the Bidens, according to the document." It still doesn't give you a path for any trump fantasy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 8, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: What significance does this garbage have? We have to wait ten years? Biden will be dead in ten years. "Zlochevsky claimed it would take investigators 10 years to uncover the illicit payments to the Bidens, according to the document." It still doesn't give you a path for any trump fantasy. Ya Don't say...again you have blinked. The money trail has now been illuminated...Hmm it would seem the Illuminati characterization has taken on a whole new meaning. Hearing Wrap Up: IRS Whistleblowers Expose How Bidens Were Treated Differently The testimony offered by two career IRS whistleblowers shows the DOJ, FBI, and IRS’s investigation of Hunter Biden confirms the Oversight Committee’s findings about the Biden family. According to financial records obtained by the Oversight Committee, the Biden family set up over 20 shell companies, most of which were created when Joe Biden was vice president. IRS whistleblowers have confirmed the existence of these companies. Bank records obtained so far by the Oversight Committee show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Bidens engaged in many intentionally complicated financial transactions through their associates to hide these payments and avoid scrutiny. Both the Oversight Committee and whistleblowers have confirmed Hunter received millions of dollars from China, Ukraine, and Romania. IRS whistleblowers also presented evidence of Joe Biden’s knowledge and possible involvement in his family’s business schemes. IRS whistleblowers provided evidence of the Justice Department’s politicization and misconduct in the Biden criminal investigation. https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-irs-whistleblowers-expose-how-bidens-were-treated-differently/#:~:text=Bank records obtained so far,nationals' and their related companies. Edited September 8, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM September 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ya Don't say...again you have blinked. The money trail has now been illuminated...Hmm it would seem the Illuminati characterization has taken on a whole new meaning. Hearing Wrap Up: IRS Whistleblowers Expose How Bidens Were Treated Differently The testimony offered by two career IRS whistleblowers shows the DOJ, FBI, and IRS’s investigation of Hunter Biden confirms the Oversight Committee’s findings about the Biden family. According to financial records obtained by the Oversight Committee, the Biden family set up over 20 shell companies, most of which were created when Joe Biden was vice president. IRS whistleblowers have confirmed the existence of these companies. Bank records obtained so far by the Oversight Committee show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Bidens engaged in many intentionally complicated financial transactions through their associates to hide these payments and avoid scrutiny. Both the Oversight Committee and whistleblowers have confirmed Hunter received millions of dollars from China, Ukraine, and Romania. IRS whistleblowers also presented evidence of Joe Biden’s knowledge and possible involvement in his family’s business schemes. IRS whistleblowers provided evidence of the Justice Department’s politicization and misconduct in the Biden criminal investigation. https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-irs-whistleblowers-expose-how-bidens-were-treated-differently/#:~:text=Bank records obtained so far,nationals' and their related companies. the testimony offered by two career IRS whistleblowers???? looks like your GOP is rehashing their failed investigation to keep the slow ones happy they shot their wad...only ones paying notice (even your pal Weiss has nothing more to add after 5 years) Next up Trump on trial in New York Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 9, 2023 5 hours ago, notsonice said: Next up Trump on trial in New York It should be quite...interesting. Will the prosecution know how to proceed with there case or will they have to ask the court how to proceed with there indictments. GA was a real chit show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 874 GE September 9, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: It should be quite...interesting. Will the prosecution know how to proceed with there case or will they have to ask the court how to proceed with there indictments. GA was a real chit show. Do you think Chesebros and Powell will win? On the record. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/chesebro-dec-6-memo/ce55d6abd79c2c71/full.pdf Edited September 9, 2023 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,540 September 9, 2023 (edited) It seems that the Hunter Biden "things" are giving a whole lotta credit to Joe Biden (and Hunter)... Trump's current "floating the idea" that his verbal claims that he won are protected free speech. Speaking the truth about election results is not a free speech issue -- of course, you can speak all you wish, and not suffer consequences from the Government. Unless you step across certain "non-protected speech" lines. Or you slander a party, which can be used against you in a Court of Law. The only reason to call for a free speech defense of Trump's assertion of election fraud is if it weren't true. (MAGA followers retreat to the garage to smoke). Edited September 9, 2023 by turbguy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 9, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Do you think Chesebros and Powell will win? On the record. https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/chesebro-dec-6-memo/ce55d6abd79c2c71/full.pdf Just enjoy the play. Judgement comes when final curtain drops. It would seem quite obvious you do not enjoy theatre, it can be quite a experience, frankly posting the Senate impeachment trial was predictive/interjection ...bad form actually. Edited September 9, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,540 September 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Just enjoy the play. Judgement comes when final curtain drops. It would seem quite obvious you do not enjoy theatre, it can be quite a experience, frankly posting the Senate impeachment trial was predictive/interjection ...bad form actually. There never is a "final curtain". There is just more history for mankind to experience and record. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 9, 2023 (edited) On 9/9/2023 at 8:13 AM, turbguy said: There never is a "final curtain". There is just more history for mankind to experience and record. Next up... Fani Willis indicts The US Supreme Court! Opps...guess not. It's Complicated. The 39 people the Georgia special grand jury recommended charges against BY JULIA SHAPERO AND NICK ROBERTSON - 09/08/23 3:16 PM ET https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4194439-the-39-people-the-georgia-special-grand-jury-recommended-charges-against/ Edited September 10, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 9, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, notsonice said: the testimony offered by two career IRS whistleblowers???? It would seem the " Illuminati" have been quite busy as of late. Comer Reveals New Evidence in Biden Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes Web of LLCs, efforts to hide sources of money, direct China cash, influence peddling in Romania WASHINGTON—House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) today released a bank records memorandum detailing new information obtained in the committee’s investigation into the Biden family’s influence peddling and business schemes. The Oversight Committee has obtained thousands of pages of financial records revealing the Biden family and associates’ complicated network of companies set up during Joe Biden’s vice presidency and the millions the Bidens received from foreign sources. The financial records also reveal how the Bidens used complicated transactions to hide payments from foreign nationals, including CCP-linked associates, and provide clear indications of influence peddling schemes during then-Vice President Biden’s tenure. “The Bidens intentionally sought to hide, confuse, and conceal their influence peddling schemes, but bank records don’t lie. The Bidens made millions from foreign nationals providing what seems to be no services other than access and influence. From the thousands of records we’ve obtained so far, we know the Biden family set up over a dozen companies when Joe Biden was vice president. The Bidens engaged in many intentionally complicated financial transactions to hide these payments and avoid scrutiny. In at least one instance, the Bidens’ CCP-linked associates took steps to conceal the source of the payment to the Bidens. “The Bidens’ foreign entanglements are breathtaking and raise serious questions about why foreign actors targeted the Biden family, what they expected in return, and whether our national security is threatened. We will continue to pursue additional bank records to follow the money trail and inform legislative solutions to prevent this type of corruption. Americans deserve answers, transparency, and accountability,” said Chairman Comer. The Complicated Web of Biden Family and Associates’ Companies: Biden family members and business associates created a web of over 20 companies—most were limited liability companies formed after Joe Biden became Vice President. The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources: Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office. The Biden Family Used Business Associates’ Companies to Receive Foreign Funds: Despite creating many companies after Vice President Biden took office, the Biden family used business associates’ companies to receive millions of dollars from foreign companies. Attempts to Conceal Large Financial Transactions: After foreign companies sent money to business associates’ companies, the Biden family received incremental payments over time to different bank accounts. These complicated financial transactions appear to be meant to conceal the source of the funds and reduce the conspicuousness of the total amounts made into the Biden bank accounts. Chinese Nationals Hid the Source of the Money:Chinese nationals and companies with significant ties to Chinese intelligence and the Chinese Communist Party hid the source of the funds paid out to the Bidens by layering domestic limited liability companies. The Biden family and associates’ activities in coordination with Chinese nationals and their corporate entities appear to be an attempt to engage in financial deception. Multiple Biden family members received money from the Chinese after it passed through an associate’s account. Additionally, Hunter Biden received money directly into his company’s account from a Chinese-controlled entity. Biden Family and Associates’ Activities in Romania Indicate Influence Peddling Scheme: The Biden family and associates’ activities in Romania bear clear indicia of a scheme to peddle influence from 2015 to 2017. While Vice President Biden lectured Romania on corruption and ethics, the Bidens received over a million dollars from a company controlled by a Romanian individual accused of corruption, Gabriel Popoviciu, https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/#:~:text=The Biden Family Received Millions,nationals' and their related companies. Edited September 9, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 9, 2023 (edited) Ya Don't Say.... 5th Circuit finds Biden White House, CDC likely violated First Amendment The three judge panel found that contacts with tech companies by officials from the White House, the surgeon general’s office, the CDC and the FBI likely amounted to coercion https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/09/08/5th-circuit-ruling-covid-content-moderation/ Edited September 9, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 874 GE September 10, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: 5th Circuit finds Biden White House, CDC likely violated First Amendment So what? Remember, the constitution is not important to you anymore. Your master says no rules. Edited September 10, 2023 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 10, 2023 2 hours ago, TailingsPond said: So what? Quiet illuminating and timely, let the drama unfold, act 2 scene 3. America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide So What? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 874 GE September 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Quiet illuminating and timely, let the drama unfold, act 2 scene 3. America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide So What? Just accept that if you back trump you do not back law. You can't have it both ways. But be careful, those who do not respect the law are getting major prison time. Choose wisely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 11, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, TailingsPond said: But be careful, those who do not respect the law are getting major prison time. Choose wisely. NOW that's a blast from the past...the big E was a self appointed board monitor. If I remember correctly he was exiled into mediocrity.. Lions Tigers & Bears ohh my! The Ghost of the Big E returns? Edited September 11, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP September 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Quiet illuminating and timely, let the drama unfold, act 2 scene 3. America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide So What? "So what?" Thats how civil wars start! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Rob Plant said: "So what?" Thats how civil wars start! Rather astute Mr. Plant. I do believe you are having a break thru moment. Perhaps you may take notice here, the US Congress has been and is taking steps to legally circumvent a cult of madness. They are using the constitution to overwhelmingly form a legal consensus to end this civil war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP September 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Rather astute Mr. Plant. I do believe you are having a break thru moment. Perhaps you may take notice here, the US Congress has been and is taking steps to legally circumvent a cult of madness. They are using the constitution to overwhelmingly form a legal consensus to end this civil war. We'll see EWO, however "the cult" depends on which side of the fence you live. Reading both sides of the political argument you both refer to each other as "the cult" especially those referring to Trump and MAGA. Genuine question for republicans on this thread, do you honestly feel that Trump achieved MAGA or was on the right road to doing so? He said I believe that he was going to "drain the swamp" I dont think he achieved that at all. However for such a divisive president its to his credit there were no wars on his watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP September 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Rather astute Mr. Plant. Youre saying then that your "so what" comment was a mistake and that i've made you realise this. Your welcome! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 12, 2023 (edited) On 9/10/2023 at 11:08 AM, TailingsPond said: So what? Remember, the constitution is not important to you anymore. Your master says no rules. On 9/10/2023 at 1:18 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: Quiet illuminating and timely, let the drama unfold, act 2 scene 3. America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide So What? On 9/11/2023 at 6:31 AM, Rob Plant said: "So what?" Thats how civil wars start! 6 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Youre saying then that your "so what" comment was a mistake and that i've made you realise this. Your welcome! Mr.Plant take notes here, a comment was made..a very illuminating comment. A administration had allegedly violated the CONSTITUTION by suppressing information vital to election results outcomes. Vital to making decisions on there health outcomes. Those actions give credence to the very nature of your thread. US exceptional discord...the comment " So What". I have no doubts before this debacle/play ends that phrase "So What" will play out many times, frankly it may well play out in major headlines. The arrogance is startling and appalling, so much so it lies at the very heart of your thread title. America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide..."So What." There is a young man generating a lot of notary in our country as we converse, a very simple man of a very humble background. No big money, no corporate backing...just a message that resonates with millions upon millions of US youth...out of nowhere and a very simple message. The theme...It's A Dam Shame. https://youtu.be/sqSA-SY5Hro?feature=shared 63 million views. No corporate backing. The above is strictly a opinion your mileage may vary...Let The Drama Play Out..."Who Cares" Edited September 13, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 874 GE September 14, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 8:17 AM, Eyes Wide Open said: Mr.Plant take notes here, a comment was made..a very illuminating comment. A administration had allegedly violated the CONSTITUTION by suppressing information vital to election results outcomes. FYI two wrongs don't make a right. You can't openly break constitutional rules just because you are mad someone else possibly broke the rules. The "good guys" have to follow the letter of the law. Clearly under trump there would be "no rules", no constitutional rights. He could even take your guns! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 September 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, TailingsPond said: FYI two wrongs don't make a right. You can't openly break constitutional rules just because you are mad someone else possibly broke the rules. The "good guys" have to follow the letter of the law. Clearly under trump there would be "no rules", no constitutional rights. He could even take your guns! It's over for now. The party can't let Biden or Harris play anymore. The upcoming impeachment inquiry would expose far to many. As is the GA trial, both are self destructing. Imagine that...impeachment inquires and the liberal press umpires.. YOUR OUTTA HERE President Biden should not run again in 2024 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/12/biden-trump-election-step-aside/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/biden-2024-reelection-age/674634/ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/06/opinion/biden-shouldnt-run-2024.html Edited September 14, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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