America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide

Ron Wagner · January 27

On 1/19/2024 at 4:58 PM, notsonice said:

your words

I do have a problem with Muslims....????????

then you go on to state in the same paragraph

I am not a racist or against peaceful folks of any race??????????

and after you are called out for your racist words

I am not anti-muslim.....

you contradict yourself only to mask your racist comments, you are not fooling anyone except yourself

Islam is not a race, it accepts all races just as Christianity does. You should study the history and scale of Islamic invasions and the millions of deaths. You are somewhat ignorant on the issue. That means you lack knowledge.

Ron Wagner · January 27

On 1/20/2024 at 9:42 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said:

? No they did not. They paid for their PARENTS SS/Medicare the so called "greatest" Bull Shitters ever generation who never paid. And now that the Boomers had fewer kids than their parents, and boomers are retiring now, guess what, all that $$$ they paid in... ain't gonna be rolling in from the boomers kids to same extent. You might have notice a tidy $1T deficit every year to showcase this blatant lie of "boomers" paid for their SS/Medicare Bull

I am a veteran and part of the "greatest generation" since I was born before the Japanese surrendered. When I volunteered for the army I was told I would be eligible for Veterans Administration healthcare. That ended during the Nixon administration. Today I pay $700 per month for my "free" medicare. That includes all the add ons that are needed to actually get all the care needed. Everyone has to pay that much for full coverage UNLESS they are broke or low income. Then they can get a medicaid.

Biden has let millions of illegal aliens in during his term. We are now paying for all of them as needed. Hospitals will be going broke so the federal government will be adding to our deficit spending to do so. The plan seems to be to let America go broke so that the middle class will be decimated and most citizens will be dependent on the federal government.

The Catholic hospital that I worked for has shut down all of the services that it used to lose money on but is required to have an emergency room which is greatly misused by many people.

Eyes Wide Open · January 27

5 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Watch it unfold. Trump will be bankrupt like his "friends" soon.

Jury says Donald Trump must pay an additional $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll in defamation case (msn.com)

Let us not forget the 359 million in N.Y.

Quite spectacular is it not!

notsonice · January 27

7 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

I am a veteran and part of the "greatest generation" since I was born before the Japanese surrendered. When I volunteered for the army I was told I would be eligible for Veterans Administration healthcare. That ended during the Nixon administration. Today I pay $700 per month for my "free" medicare. That includes all the add ons that are needed to actually get all the care needed. Everyone has to pay that much for full coverage UNLESS they are broke or low income. Then they can get a medicaid.

Biden has let millions of illegal aliens in during his term. We are now paying for all of them as needed. Hospitals will be going broke so the federal government will be adding to our deficit spending to do so. The plan seems to be to let America go broke so that the middle class will be decimated and most citizens will be dependent on the federal government.

The Catholic hospital that I worked for has shut down all of the services that it used to lose money on but is required to have an emergency room which is greatly misused by many people.

the greatest generation is anyone born between 1901 and 1927...IE you were eligible to fight in WW2

you are part of the silent generation ...sad as many had to fight in Korea and some in Vietnam and never get the same honors than those who fought in WW2

Eyes Wide Open · January 27

4 hours ago, notsonice said:

the greatest generation is anyone born between 1901 and 1927...IE you were eligible to fight in WW2

you are part of the silent generation ...sad as many had to fight in Korea and some in Vietnam and never get the same honors than those who fought in WW2

Do tell...honor that is. Attempting to minimize a man who served? It would seem quite apparent your foundations were founded in swill.

TailingsPond · January 27

1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Do tell...honor that is. Attempting to minimize a man who served? It would seem quite apparent your foundations were founded in swill.

You lack reading comprehension. He was empathizing with the veterans who got fewer laurels than deserved.

"sad as many had to fight in Korea and some in Vietnam and never get the same honors"

footeab@yahoo.com · January 27

15 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

I am a veteran and part of the "greatest generation" since I was born before the Japanese surrendered. When I volunteered for the army I was told I would be eligible for Veterans Administration healthcare. That ended during the Nixon administration. Today I pay $700 per month for my "free" medicare. That includes all the add ons that are needed to actually get all the care needed. Everyone has to pay that much for full coverage UNLESS they are broke or low income. Then they can get a medicaid.

Biden has let millions of illegal aliens in during his term. We are now paying for all of them as needed. Hospitals will be going broke so the federal government will be adding to our deficit spending to do so. The plan seems to be to let America go broke so that the middle class will be decimated and most citizens will be dependent on the federal government.

The Catholic hospital that I worked for has shut down all of the services that it used to lose money on but is required to have an emergency room which is greatly misused by many people.

Which reminds me, look up "universal" health care and their actual individual costs in said countries. All the citizens pay every month and per visit/prescriptions or have to pay ~25% of the bills or 50% of the bills etc depending on country in question... Each is different, the only difference I can tell is in the "universal" AKA Socialist countries, the hospitals are all socialized(stolen by public) whereas in USA they

*** technically *** are private for the majority. In reality they may as well be an arm of the federal government as the Feds pay 75%-->85% of the medical bills in the USA, depending on how one does the math,

Polyphia · January 27

2 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Which reminds me, look up "universal" health care and their actual individual costs in said countries. All the citizens pay every month and per visit/prescriptions or have to pay ~25% of the bills or 50% of the bills etc depending on country in question... Each is different, the only difference I can tell is in the "universal" AKA Socialist countries, the hospitals are all socialized(stolen by public) whereas in USA they

*** technically *** are private for the majority. In reality they may as well be an arm of the federal government as the Feds pay 75%-->85% of the medical bills in the USA, depending on how one does the math,

Your math, or real math?

TailingsPond · January 27

2 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Which reminds me, look up "universal" health care and their actual individual costs in said countries. All the citizens pay every month and per visit/prescriptions or have to pay ~25% of the bills or 50% of the bills etc depending on country in question... Each is different, the only difference I can tell is in the "universal" AKA Socialist countries, the hospitals are all socialized(stolen by public) whereas in USA they

*** technically *** are private for the majority. In reality they may as well be an arm of the federal government as the Feds pay 75%-->85% of the medical bills in the USA, depending on how one does the math,

Wrong.

Did you look that up lazy bones or do any actual math? No, you just made up numbers with a huge error range yet again (~25% to 50% is just made up garbage - totally useless).

75%-85% depending on how you do the math? There is only one correct answer with math, everything with you is a made up guess.

Real data, the kind that people do math on, much more rarely ends in 5 or zero like your "data" always does. You can use algorithms to check data sets to test for data manipulation; falsified data ends with a 0, 2, or 5 more often than probability would predict. Your would shit would glow red, not that anybody would bother testing such obvious garbage.

Edited January 27 by TailingsPond

Ron Wagner · January 28

6 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Which reminds me, look up "universal" health care and their actual individual costs in said countries. All the citizens pay every month and per visit/prescriptions or have to pay ~25% of the bills or 50% of the bills etc depending on country in question... Each is different, the only difference I can tell is in the "universal" AKA Socialist countries, the hospitals are all socialized(stolen by public) whereas in USA they

*** technically *** are private for the majority. In reality they may as well be an arm of the federal government as the Feds pay 75%-->85% of the medical bills in the USA, depending on how one does the math,

It is a very confusing system and increasingly expensive to those who actually pay the medical bills in addition to what they paid in taxes all of their life, including veterans who were cut from eligibility during the Nixon years. Indigents get totally free health care through medicaid. Millions of illegal aliens also get free care also. Things got much worse after Obamacare was forced into existence. All actual taxpayers are forced to pay for all those who require medical service. This is at a time when we have a national debt that is over 30 trillion dollars and politicians are not even able to restrain spending to keep it at that level. It is truly insanity.

Ron Wagner · January 28

13 hours ago, notsonice said:

the greatest generation is anyone born between 1901 and 1927...IE you were eligible to fight in WW2

you are part of the silent generation ...sad as many had to fight in Korea and some in Vietnam and never get the same honors than those who fought in WW2

You are right. I have the book by Brokaw and didn't notice any mention of a Silent Generation which I have never heard of. I have two uncles and a father that served in WW2. I remember Nixon referring to the Silent Majority however.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Greatest-Generation

TailingsPond · January 28

34 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

It is a very confusing system and increasingly expensive to those who actually pay the medical bills in addition to what they paid in taxes all of their life, including veterans who were cut from eligibility during the Nixon years. Indigents get totally free health care through medicaid. Millions of illegal aliens also get free care also. Things got much worse after Obamacare was forced into existence. All actual taxpayers are forced to pay for all those who require medical service. This is at a time when we have a national debt that is over 30 trillion dollars and politicians are not even able to restrain spending to keep it at that level. It is truly insanity.

Debt went up fastest under trump.

As for restraining spending lets talk about putting all trains underground and replacing all stroads. Hahaha

Edited January 28 by TailingsPond

Ron Wagner · January 28

On 1/23/2024 at 1:44 AM, notsonice said:

now back to reality

It is all about the economy

Sleepy Joe has the momentum ...US recession.....oh the Biden haters thought 2023 the economy would collapse but again reality......

The Green Transition continues and the US standard of living ................Booming

enjoy four more years

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The national debt is the major concern overshadowing our economic future. We are only paying the interest as we continue to borrow more and bring in more immigrants.

TailingsPond · January 28

41 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

It is a very confusing system and increasingly expensive to those who actually pay the medical bills in addition to what they paid in taxes all of their life, including veterans who were cut from eligibility during the Nixon years.

Only in the USA, the country with some of the most expensive yet poorest care in the world. Yes, the rich in the USA get great health care but the masses do not.

TailingsPond · January 28

7 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

The national debt is the major concern overshadowing our economic future. We are only paying the interest as we continue to borrow more and bring in more immigrants.

Didn't Mexico pay for a wall? hahaha!

Trumps list of failed promises is very long.

TailingsPond · January 28

9 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Which reminds me, look up "universal" health care and their actual individual costs in said countries. All the citizens pay every month and per visit/prescriptions or have to pay ~25% of the bills or 50% of the bills etc depending on country in question... Each is different, the only difference I can tell is in the "universal" AKA Socialist countries, the hospitals are all socialized(stolen by public) whereas in USA they

*** technically *** are private for the majority. In reality they may as well be an arm of the federal government as the Feds pay 75%-->85% of the medical bills in the USA, depending on how one does the math,

You going to try to look up some real numbers?

I pay no monthly health care premium, Alberta did away with that years ago as the province has lots of oil revenue.

I severely shattered my finger in a accident a few years back. I saw two ER doctors, who didn't know how to handle it so they referred me to orthopaedic surgery, that surgeon referred me to a fancy hand plastic surgeon who did ORIF with 3 screws.

I then had 23 physiotherapy appointments over the following months.

How much do you think all that cost me out of pocket? Nothing except for out of hospital pain medication. Anything given at hospital was covered.

If the average US citizen had this injury they would be out of a lot of money, or would have opted to have the finger tip amputated due to costs. They explained that doing cheap splinting would leave you with a stiff, painful, useless, arthritic finger.

Edited January 28 by TailingsPond

Eyes Wide Open · February 3

Another trial ending in chaos, each and every trial ends in chaos.

Judge Scraps Trial Date for Trump Election Subversion Case

Judge Tanya Chutkan removed the planned March 4 start from her calendar, formalizing a delay that had become increasingly likely in recent weeks. It remains unclear when the trial might start.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/us/politics/trump-trial-election-date-delay.html

Edited February 3 by Eyes Wide Open

Eyes Wide Open · February 3

Ya Don't say...could the progressive left be having some issues with a imminent ruling?

Sotomayor overwhelmed by demanding SCOTUS workload: ‘I live in frustration’

https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/news/sotomayor-tired-from-demanding-scotus-workload-i-live-in-frustration/

Edited February 3 by Eyes Wide Open

TailingsPond · February 3

16 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ya Don't say...could the progressive left be having some issues with a imminent ruling?

No, the far right is creating so much trouble the courts are overloaded. However, if you get your way this will no longer matter as the SCOTUS would be dissolved.

Eyes Wide Open · February 3

Another trial ending in shame and deceitful lies. The group's of corruption involved are stunning.

Atlanta Prosecutor Faces Upheaval in Trump Inquiry

Accusations involving her relationship with the lead prosecutor she hired are seen as unlikely to derail the case but could cause serious distractions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/us/fani-willis-trump-georgia-case.html

Edited February 3 by Eyes Wide Open

Eyes Wide Open · February 3

29 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

No, the far right is creating so much trouble the courts are overloaded.

Ya Don't Say...Another trial up in smoke.

the Trump Indictment a “Legal Embarrassment”?

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Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan District Attorney, shouldn’t have brought it. One of them, Jed Shugerman—who teaches law at Fordham and Boston University—wrote a piece in the Times with the headline “The Trump Indictment Is a Legal Embarrassment.” Shugerman argues that the case has so little “legal and jurisdictional basis” that it could be dismissed by a state judge. “Mor

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/is-the-trump-indictment-a-legal-embarrassment#:~:text=One of them%2C Jed Shugerman,dismissed by a state judge.

Edited February 3 by Eyes Wide Open

TailingsPond · February 3

4 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ya Don't Say...Another trial up in smoke.

Watch it unfold.

Eyes Wide Open · February 3

11 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

Watch it unfold.

I do believe the prosecution is running bare @ss nakid down the streets of NY for a awhile here...Trust me nothing good in viewing that Burlesque show..

just Nasty really Nasty...Bigly very Bigly

Edited February 3 by Eyes Wide Open

turbguy · February 3

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

At the founding of this nation, from its limited population, we had the talent and wisdom of Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison.

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

In contrast, today, we have Biden, Harris, Trump, Haley, DeSantis, and Christie.

I guess anyone of real talent is too busy making money...

Edited February 3 by turbguy

Ron Wagner · February 3

20 hours ago, turbguy said:

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

At the founding of this nation, from its limited population, we had the talent and wisdom of Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison.

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

In contrast, today, we have Biden, Harris, Trump, Haley, DeSantis, and Christie.

I guess anyone of real talent is too busy making money...

About a third of Republicans were sold on DeSantis or Haley until they saw them in the debates. Your argument is DOA.

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