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12 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

About a third of Republicans were sold on DeSantis or Haley until they saw them in the debates. Your argument is DOA. 

Versus someone who didn't bother entering the debates...

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20 hours ago, turbguy said:

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

Just hope the geezers pick good VP's for when one dies in office.

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2 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

She should retire then!

Sotomayor is being pressured to step down, very soon multiple  rulings will be coming down that threaten the very backbone of Trumps alleged misconduct/crimes. 

The writings is on the wall, her decision will abide by the constitution...and not a party line manifesto. All existing trials are on hold,one has been intervied in already...the sitting judge was told not to make any rulings on Trumps property's.

Below illuminates some of the behind the scenes interference.

What to do about Sotomayor

 

Fallon’s position isn’t echoed by everyone. Some Democrats close to the Biden administration and high-profile lawyers with past White House experience spoke to West Wing Playbook on condition of anonymity about their support for Sotomayor’s retirement. But none would go on the record about it.

They worried that publicly calling for the first Latina justice to step down would appear gauche or insensitive. Privately, they say Sotomayor has provided an important liberal voice on the court, even as they concede that it would be smart for the party if she stepped down before the 2024 election. There is a firm belief that a Senate controlled by Republicans will simply not confirm a Biden-picked Court nominee should he run and win reelection. Should a vacancy occur under a Republican run Senate with a Republican in the White House, it could expand the current 6-3 conservative majority into an even more powerful 7-2 split.

 

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2023/01/11/what-to-do-about-sotomayor-00077506

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

 

The writings is on the wall, her decision will abide by the constitution...and not a party line manifesto.

Hopefully.

We already know you do not respect the constitution so please stop appealing to it in your comments.  Your party line manifesto is anti-constitutional.

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Hey all...

While the coming choices will probably be distasteful for many here...

Did any of you ever get the feeling that we are nearing the end of the highly-extended half time of the Civil War?

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11 minutes ago, turbguy said:

Hey all...

While the coming choices will probably be distasteful for many here...

Did any of you ever get the feeling that we are nearing the end of the highly-extended half time of the Civil War?

No, there are some children having a tantrum but it is being controlled by the level headed.  The Jan 6th rioters and other election fraud people are being systematically, and legally, put in their place (jail / poorhouse).

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19 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Sotomayor is being pressured to step down, very soon multiple  rulings will be coming down that threaten the very backbone of Trumps alleged misconduct/crimes. 

The writings is on the wall, her decision will abide by the constitution...and not a party line manifesto. All existing trials are on hold,one has been intervied in already...the sitting judge was told not to make any rulings on Trumps property's.

Below illuminates some of the behind the scenes interference.

What to do about Sotomayor

 

Fallon’s position isn’t echoed by everyone. Some Democrats close to the Biden administration and high-profile lawyers with past White House experience spoke to West Wing Playbook on condition of anonymity about their support for Sotomayor’s retirement. But none would go on the record about it.

They worried that publicly calling for the first Latina justice to step down would appear gauche or insensitive. Privately, they say Sotomayor has provided an important liberal voice on the court, even as they concede that it would be smart for the party if she stepped down before the 2024 election. There is a firm belief that a Senate controlled by Republicans will simply not confirm a Biden-picked Court nominee should he run and win reelection. Should a vacancy occur under a Republican run Senate with a Republican in the White House, it could expand the current 6-3 conservative majority into an even more powerful 7-2 split.

 

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2023/01/11/what-to-do-about-sotomayor-00077506

Thanks for the info. I would hope for Trump to get one more appointment. I am angry about the dilly dallying on support of the second amendment. If the constitution is not enforced as it is written there will eventually be amendments made, for better or worse. If not then their will be no respect for the law and people will do whatever they need to do to maintain their freedom. 

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2 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

Thanks for the info. I would hope for Trump to get one more appointment. I am angry about the dilly dallying on support of the second amendment. If the constitution is not enforced as it is written there will eventually be amendments made, for better or worse. If not then their will be no respect for the law and people will do whatever they need to do to maintain their freedom. 

You can not want trump and value the constitution.  Trump. Would. Rip. It. Up.

It would only take him one day to remove all your rights.

Q: Are you gong to be a dictator?

Trumps answer:  "No, no, no, other than day one."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rvQN9m4Z8U

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2 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

Thanks for the info.

"Thanks for the info" from Eyes shut is funny shit.

You two loyal cult members should conspire to overthrow the government again, fail, then get thrown in jail.

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Hey Eyes shut how is that Biden impeachment going?

Still any day now?

Eat Crow.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/02/politics/house-impeachment-biden-republicans/index.html

"While no formal whip count has been conducted, one GOP lawmaker estimated there are around 20 House Republicans who are not convinced there is evidence for impeachment, and Republicans can only lose two votes in the current House margins.

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The prospect of their inquiry not culminating in impeachment has prompted some internal frustration among Republicans, with finger-pointing already underway in GOP circles about what went wrong – and who is to blame – even as the Republican-led committees continue to push on with their probe. Some of the ire has been directed at House Oversight Chairman James Comer, who has spearheaded the investigation into Biden family business records.

“You’d be hard pressed to say it’s going well,” said a GOP source closely following that investigation. “It’s a jumbled mess.”"

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22 hours ago, turbguy said:

Hey all...

While the coming choices will probably be distasteful for many here...

Did any of you ever get the feeling that we are nearing the end of the highly-extended half time of the Civil War?

Not yet Turbguy..although a case could easily be made for such a event. Frankly the socialist progressive party is out of control...and quite desperate at this point.

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We’re already starting to put together a team to think through the most damaging types of things that he [Trump] might do so that we’re ready to bring lawsuits if we have to.

 

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The fix is in. To “protect democracy,” democracy is already being canceled. We just haven’t admitted the implications of this to ourselves yet.

On Sunday, January 14th, NBC News ran an eye-catching story: “Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House.” It described “a loose-knit network of public interest groups and lawmakers” that is “quietly” making plans to “foil any efforts to expand presidential power” on the part of Donald Trump.

The piece quoted an array of former high-ranking officials, all insisting Trump will misuse the Department of Defense to execute civilian political aims. Since Joe Biden’s team “leaked” a strategy memo in late December listing “Trump is an existential threat to democracy” as Campaign 2024’s central talking point, surrogates have worked overtime to insert existential or democracy in quotes. This was no different:

“We’re about 30 seconds away from the Armageddon clock when it comes to democracy,” said Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, adding that Trump is “a clear and present danger to our democracy.” Skye Perryman of Democracy Forward, one of the advocacy groups organizing the “loose” coalition, said, “We believe this is an existential moment for American democracy.” Declared former CIA and defense chief Leon Panetta: “Like any good dictator, he’s going to try to use the military to basically perform his will.”

Former Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the U.S. Department of Justice and current visiting Georgetown law professor Mary McCord was one of the few coalition participants quoted by name. She said:

We’re already starting to put together a team to think through the most damaging types of things that he [Trump] might do so that we’re ready to bring lawsuits if we have to.

The group was formed by at least two organizations that have been hyperactive in filing lawsuits against Trump and Trump-related figures over the years: the aforementioned Democracy Forward, chaired by former Perkins Coie and Hillary Clinton campaign attorney Marc Elias, and Protect Democracy, a ubiquitous non-profit run by a phalanx of former Obama administration lawyers like Ian Bassin, and funded at least in part by LinkedIn magnate Reid Hoffman.

The article implied a future Trump presidency will necessitate new forms of external control over the military. It cited Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal’s bill to “clarify” the Insurrection Act, a 1792 law that empowers the president to deploy the military to quell domestic rebellion. Blumenthal’s act would add a requirement that Congress or courts ratify presidential decisions to deploy the military at home, seeking essentially to attach a congressional breathalyzer to the presidential steering wheel.

NBC’s quotes from former high-ranking defense and intelligence officials about possible preemptive mutiny were interesting on their own. However, the really striking twist was that we’d read the story before.

 

 

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Summer, 2020. The TIP media blitz.

For over a year, the Biden administration and its surrogates have dropped hint after hint that the plan for winning in 2024 — against Donald Trump or anyone else — might involve something other than voting. Lawsuits in multiple states have been filed to remove Trump from the ballot; primaries have been canceled or invalidated; an ominous Washington Post editorial by Robert Kagan, husband to senior State official Victoria Nuland, read like an APB to assassins to head off an “inevitable” Trump dictatorship; and on January 11th of this year, leaders of a third party group called “No Labels” sent an amazing letter to the Department of Justice, complaining of a “conspiracy” to stop alternative votes.

The Podesta episode was worse than reported, with the secession proposal coming on “advice from President Obama,” used as leverage to a) secure statehood for Washington, DC and Puerto Rico b) divide California into five states to increase its Senate representation, and c) “eliminate the Electoral College,” among other things. TIP authors also warned Trump’s behavior could “push other actors, including, potentially, some in the Democratic Party, to similarly engage in practices that depart from traditional rule of law norms, out of perceived self-defense.”

https://www.racket.news/p/is-the-electoral-fix-already-in

 

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20 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Hey Eyes shut how is that Biden impeachment going?

Still any day now?

The Drama begins...Feb. 28.

Hunter Biden agrees to private deposition with Republicans after months of defiance

 

https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-contempt-subpoena-058b67e9d69bd12d14b8e395c2aadaf0

 

From your source....

Top Republicans are not expected to make an official decision on whether to pursue impeachment articles until after a pair of high-stakes depositions later this month with Hunter Biden and the president’s brother, James.

 

But serious doubts are growing inside the GOP that they will be able to convince their razor-thin majority to back the politically perilous impeachment effort in an election-year, according to interviews with over a dozen Republican lawmakers and aides, including some who are close to the probe.

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13 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The Drama begins...Feb. 28.

Hunter Biden agrees to private deposition with Republicans after months of defiance

https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-congress-contempt-subpoena-058b67e9d69bd12d14b8e395c2aadaf0

Uh, you have stated long ago that the drama has begun, but now you say it will begin in a few weeks.  Do you not remember?

However, I do appreciate you putting a date on your "some day soon" events that never happen.  I hope you enjoy the taste of crow. 

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On 4/23/2023 at 10:58 AM, Eyes Wide Open said:

How the greatest story ever told begins.

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

Read the transcript here:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

Way back in April of last year you were saying it began.

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On 3/23/2023 at 10:34 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

I can agree with the above to a great extent. However our free press has become corrupted, like that or not honest messaging is vital to any country. 

We are now experiencing a "anything goes time" this will fade soon. Fads are quite hard to bust in the US.

Did that happen soon?  March of last year was a long time ago.

You should read this thread from the beginning and count your errors. 

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On 2/3/2024 at 3:02 AM, turbguy said:

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

At the founding of this nation, from its limited population, we had the talent and wisdom of Franklin, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison.

It seems very sad to me that our choices in the upcoming Presidential election are limited to Old Geezers, Misfits, Airheads, and Crackpots.

In contrast, today, we have Biden, Harris, Trump, Haley, DeSantis, and Christie.

I guess anyone of real talent is too busy making money...

 

The rest of the world are thinking are these 2 old farts the very best America has got?

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6 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

The rest of the world are thinking are these 2 old farts the very best America has got?

Just from a misinformed perception, as we type here the fake news cult has been and still is being purged. 

Over 500 journalists were laid off in January 2024 alone

The job cuts come after an already bleak year in the news business.

The job cuts come after an already bleak year. The news industry shed 3,087 digital, broadcast and print news jobs in 2023 — the highest annual total since 2020, when 16,060 cuts were recorded.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/01/journalism-layoffs-00138517#:~:text=The news industry shed 3%2C087,when 16%2C060 cuts were recorded.

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Just from a misinformed perception, as we type here the fake news cult has been and still is being purged. 

Over 500 journalists were laid off in January 2024 alone

The job cuts come after an already bleak year in the news business.

The job cuts come after an already bleak year. The news industry shed 3,087 digital, broadcast and print news jobs in 2023 — the highest annual total since 2020, when 16,060 cuts were recorded.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/01/journalism-layoffs-00138517#:~:text=The news industry shed 3%2C087,when 16%2C060 cuts were recorded.

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Fox still laying off the Fake  News staff???? what is your cult going to do?????  ''

The king of Fakes, empire is getting smaller every day

oh my oh my

the King of fake news had to pay out 787.5 MILLION DOLLARS  and the layoffs started...when will they end

Fox News Layoffs Keep Coming In Wake Of $787.5 Million ...

 
 
 
May 21, 2023Fox News staffers claim the $787.5 million Dominion lawsuit has prompted massive layoffs at the news organization.

8 More Removed As Fox News Purge Continues
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Jun 27, 2023 — Fox News laid off eight staffers from Tucker Carlson's old show amid permanent changes in the channel's prime-time lineup, Mediaite reported ...

May 19, 2023More layoffs could still be on the way as the network tries to cut costs following its settlement with Dominion, insiders tell Rolling Stone.

 

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4 days agoThe Wall Street Journal took a hatchet to its Washington bureau on Thursday, laying off roughly 20 staffers in a restructuring that adds to ...
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1 hour ago, notsonice said:

Fox still laying off the Fake  News staff???? what is your cult going to do?????  ''

The king of Fakes, empire is getting smaller every day

oh my oh my

the King of fake news had to pay out 787.5 MILLION DOLLARS  and the layoffs started...when will they end

Fox News Layoffs Keep Coming In Wake Of $787.5 Million ...

 
 
 
May 21, 2023Fox News staffers claim the $787.5 million Dominion lawsuit has prompted massive layoffs at the news organization.

8 More Removed As Fox News Purge Continues
HuffPost
https://www.huffpost.com › entry › fox-news-layoffs-t...
Jun 27, 2023 — Fox News laid off eight staffers from Tucker Carlson's old show amid permanent changes in the channel's prime-time lineup, Mediaite reported ...

May 19, 2023More layoffs could still be on the way as the network tries to cut costs following its settlement with Dominion, insiders tell Rolling Stone.

 

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4 days agoThe Wall Street Journal took a hatchet to its Washington bureau on Thursday, laying off roughly 20 staffers in a restructuring that adds to ...

Hyperbolic political journalism is being swept clean from the entire industry. Social Media as well. 

The Biden administration has been censured by the courts, the only time in historical records or recorded history. ...much more coming...Let The Drama Unfold 

 

US judge restricts Biden officials from contact with social media firms

The ruling said government agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services and the FBI could not talk to social media companies for "the purpose of urging, encouraging, pressuring, or inducing in any manner the removal, deletion, suppression, or reduction of content containing protected free speech" under the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

 

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-blocks-us-officials-communicating-with-social-media-companies-newspaper-2023-07-04/

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3 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Hyperbolic political journalism is being swept clean from the entire industry. Social Media as well. 

The Biden administration has been censured by the courts, the only time in historical records or recorded history. ...much more coming...Let The Drama Unfold 

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18 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Did that happen soon?  March of last year was a long time ago.

You should read this thread from the beginning and count your errors. 

Perhaps you have taken your eyes off the target group...it's been ongoing for more than a year...

The job cuts come after an already bleak year. The news industry shed 3,087 digital, broadcast and print news jobs in 2023 — the highest annual total since 2020, when 16,060 cuts were recorded.

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/01/journalism-layoffs-00138517#:~:text=The news industry shed 3%2C087,when 16%2C060 cuts were recorded.

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Busy day...so much information it's mind boggling.

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