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20 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Busy day...so much information it's mind boggling.

just so you can see what is happening ...as Fox news is unable to deal with reality....too much drama for you??? Fox news will protect the snowflakes.........

Fox news

Federal appeals court rules whether Trump has immunity in 2020 election case

 

the rest of the media

1 hour agoCourt rejects Trump's claim he can't be criminally prosecuted in case because it involved actions he took while president.
 
3 hours agoA federal appeals court panel has ruled Donald Trump can face trial on charges he plotted to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
2 hours agoAppeals court rejects Donald Trump's claim he's immune from prosecution for alleged criminal acts in trying to overturn the 2020 election ...

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1 hour ago, notsonice said:

just so you can see what is happening ...as Fox news is unable to deal with reality....too much drama for you??? Fox news will protect the snowflakes.........

Fox news

Federal appeals court rules whether Trump has immunity in 2020 election case

 

the rest of the media

1 hour agoCourt rejects Trump's claim he can't be criminally prosecuted in case because it involved actions he took while president.
 
3 hours agoA federal appeals court panel has ruled Donald Trump can face trial on charges he plotted to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
2 hours agoAppeals court rejects Donald Trump's claim he's immune from prosecution for alleged criminal acts in trying to overturn the 2020 election ...

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It's all baked into the progress, now have a comfortable chair and enjoy. Next stop the supreme ct...or does the trial proceed?

Let the Drama Unfold....

Trump scores ‘the biggest lead’ yet against Biden in new NBC poll

By 
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Published Feb. 4, 2024, 1:06 p.m. ET
 
Trump, 77, notched a 47% to 42% lead over Biden, 81, with registered voters, marking an increase from his 46% to 44% edge recorded in a November poll from the outlet.
 

https://nypost.com/2024/02/04/news/trump-scores-the-biggest-lead-yet-against-biden-in-new-nbc-poll/

Poll: 20-point deficit on handling economy highlights Biden’s struggles against Trump

The president’s approval rating has fallen to a new low in NBC News polling, as Trump narrowly leads in a 2024 general election 
 
 
 
 

Poll: 20-point deficit on handling economy highlights Biden’s struggles against Trump

The president’s approval rating has fallen to a new low in NBC News polling, as Trump narrowly leads in a 2024 general election matchup.

Despite a growing economy and little opposition for his party’s nomination, President Joe Biden confronts a dissatisfied electorate and a challenging political climate nine months before he faces re-election, according to a new national NBC News poll.

Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-economy-presidential-race-rcna136834

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13 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

It's all baked into the progress, now have a comfortable chair and enjoy. Next stop the supreme ct...or does the trial proceed?

Let the Drama Unfold....

Trump scores ‘the biggest lead’ yet against Biden in new NBC poll

By 
Social Links forRyan King
Published Feb. 4, 2024, 1:06 p.m. ET
 
Trump, 77, notched a 47% to 42% lead over Biden, 81, with registered voters, marking an increase from his 46% to 44% edge recorded in a November poll from the outlet.
 

https://nypost.com/2024/02/04/news/trump-scores-the-biggest-lead-yet-against-biden-in-new-nbc-poll/

Poll: 20-point deficit on handling economy highlights Biden’s struggles against Trump

The president’s approval rating has fallen to a new low in NBC News polling, as Trump narrowly leads in a 2024 general election 
 
 
 
 

Poll: 20-point deficit on handling economy highlights Biden’s struggles against Trump

The president’s approval rating has fallen to a new low in NBC News polling, as Trump narrowly leads in a 2024 general election matchup.

Despite a growing economy and little opposition for his party’s nomination, President Joe Biden confronts a dissatisfied electorate and a challenging political climate nine months before he faces re-election, according to a new national NBC News poll.

Biden trails GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump on major policy and personal comparisons, including by more than 20 points on which candidate would better handle the economy. And Biden’s deficit versus Trump on handling immigration and the border is greater than 30 points.

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-biden-trump-economy-presidential-race-rcna136834

enjoy the trial........

we all know he is guilty......

Sleepy Joe will win by a landside

remember it is all about the economy.........

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On 2/4/2024 at 6:48 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

Not yet Turbguy..although a case could easily be made for such a event. Frankly the socialist progressive party is out of control...and quite desperate at this point.

Is the Electoral Fix Already In?

The 2024 presidential race increasingly looks like it will be decided by lawyers, not voters, as Democrats unveil plans for America's first lawfare election

JAN 26, 2024

We’re already starting to put together a team to think through the most damaging types of things that he [Trump] might do so that we’re ready to bring lawsuits if we have to.

 

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The 2024 presidential race increasingly looks like it will be decided by lawyers, not voters, as Democrats unveil plans for America's first lawfare election

JAN 26, 2024
 
 

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The fix is in. To “protect democracy,” democracy is already being canceled. We just haven’t admitted the implications of this to ourselves yet.

On Sunday, January 14th, NBC News ran an eye-catching story: “Fears grow that Trump will use the military in ‘dictatorial ways’ if he returns to the White House.” It described “a loose-knit network of public interest groups and lawmakers” that is “quietly” making plans to “foil any efforts to expand presidential power” on the part of Donald Trump.

The piece quoted an array of former high-ranking officials, all insisting Trump will misuse the Department of Defense to execute civilian political aims. Since Joe Biden’s team “leaked” a strategy memo in late December listing “Trump is an existential threat to democracy” as Campaign 2024’s central talking point, surrogates have worked overtime to insert existential or democracy in quotes. This was no different:

“We’re about 30 seconds away from the Armageddon clock when it comes to democracy,” said Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, adding that Trump is “a clear and present danger to our democracy.” Skye Perryman of Democracy Forward, one of the advocacy groups organizing the “loose” coalition, said, “We believe this is an existential moment for American democracy.” Declared former CIA and defense chief Leon Panetta: “Like any good dictator, he’s going to try to use the military to basically perform his will.”

Former Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the U.S. Department of Justice and current visiting Georgetown law professor Mary McCord was one of the few coalition participants quoted by name. She said:

We’re already starting to put together a team to think through the most damaging types of things that he [Trump] might do so that we’re ready to bring lawsuits if we have to.

The group was formed by at least two organizations that have been hyperactive in filing lawsuits against Trump and Trump-related figures over the years: the aforementioned Democracy Forward, chaired by former Perkins Coie and Hillary Clinton campaign attorney Marc Elias, and Protect Democracy, a ubiquitous non-profit run by a phalanx of former Obama administration lawyers like Ian Bassin, and funded at least in part by LinkedIn magnate Reid Hoffman.

The article implied a future Trump presidency will necessitate new forms of external control over the military. It cited Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal’s bill to “clarify” the Insurrection Act, a 1792 law that empowers the president to deploy the military to quell domestic rebellion. Blumenthal’s act would add a requirement that Congress or courts ratify presidential decisions to deploy the military at home, seeking essentially to attach a congressional breathalyzer to the presidential steering wheel.

NBC’s quotes from former high-ranking defense and intelligence officials about possible preemptive mutiny were interesting on their own. However, the really striking twist was that we’d read the story before.

 

 

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Summer, 2020. The TIP media blitz.

For over a year, the Biden administration and its surrogates have dropped hint after hint that the plan for winning in 2024 — against Donald Trump or anyone else — might involve something other than voting. Lawsuits in multiple states have been filed to remove Trump from the ballot; primaries have been canceled or invalidated; an ominous Washington Post editorial by Robert Kagan, husband to senior State official Victoria Nuland, read like an APB to assassins to head off an “inevitable” Trump dictatorship; and on January 11th of this year, leaders of a third party group called “No Labels” sent an amazing letter to the Department of Justice, complaining of a “conspiracy” to stop alternative votes.

The Podesta episode was worse than reported, with the secession proposal coming on “advice from President Obama,” used as leverage to a) secure statehood for Washington, DC and Puerto Rico b) divide California into five states to increase its Senate representation, and c) “eliminate the Electoral College,” among other things. TIP authors also warned Trump’s behavior could “push other actors, including, potentially, some in the Democratic Party, to similarly engage in practices that depart from traditional rule of law norms, out of perceived self-defense.”

https://www.racket.news/p/is-the-electoral-fix-already-in

 

All a well informed person has to do is look at all the accusations made against the Republicans by the Democrats and see who is most guilty of the accusations made. IMHO the Democrats project their dictatorship type allegations against the Republicans in a very transparent manner and make all sorts of false accusations. 

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17 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

All a well informed person has to do is look at all the accusations made against the Republicans by the Democrats and see who is most guilty of the accusations made. IMHO the Democrats project their dictatorship type allegations against the Republicans in a very transparent manner and make all sorts of false accusations. 

“A President of the United States must have Full Immunity in order to properly function and do what has to be done for the good of our Country,” Mr Trump wrote. today

 

ha ha ha...its all he and you have left....the babbling of a senile old fool

dictatorship type allegations??? ha ha ha

and the whole plot to undo electors and the attack on the Capital are the workings of a wanna be dictator

 

Yes Trump is a wanna be dictator

 

He will not be able to use his immunity claims as a defense....this has now been settled and you can bet the US Supreme Court will deny his appeal no matter how much Trump whines

Hope he rots in prison for the  rest of his life .........He is an enemy of Democracy and the US constitution

His babbling on A President of the United States must have Full Immunity  are the  words of a Dictator.....

and the sad part is he has so many senile old farts supporting his BS

 

The Republican party is in shambles..........2024 the GOP will lose the house

Enjoy the trials and enjoy the elections

Remember it is all about the Economy and the Fed will hand Sleepy Joe a Victory with rate cuts throughout this year

 

 

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2 hours ago, notsonice said:

just so you can see what is happening ...as Fox news is unable to deal with reality....too much drama for you??? Fox news will protect the snowflakes.........

Fox news

Federal appeals court rules whether Trump has immunity in 2020 election case

 

the rest of the media

1 hour agoCourt rejects Trump's claim he can't be criminally prosecuted in case because it involved actions he took while president.
 
3 hours agoA federal appeals court panel has ruled Donald Trump can face trial on charges he plotted to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
2 hours agoAppeals court rejects Donald Trump's claim he's immune from prosecution for alleged criminal acts in trying to overturn the 2020 election ...

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It will go to the Supreme Court of the United States. 

 

On 2/2/2024 at 2:40 AM, notsonice said:

It is all about Texas

 

Texas Texas Texas will turn blue in what year??? and when it does the GOP will never win a presidency again

 

this is all due to the racial makeup in Texas as America becomes more Latino ( I am talking about legal Latinos as a percentage of voters)

then the GOP gerrymandering in Texas will end in the year???????????.....this is the fear of the GOP

When the Texas house turns Democrat.....which will happen in the next 10 years. The national GOP Party is in deep trouble

Texas is moving left, but the state's laws aren't getting more progressive  - The Washington Post

US citizens who are Latino is the fear of the GOP....the GOP just tries to paint a picture of illegals that are voting which is not true at all

this is the reality the US voter makeup is changing slowly and this has nothing to do with the illegals 

Where Latinos have the most eligible voters in the 2020 election | Pew  Research Center

 

On 2/5/2024 at 10:56 AM, Eyes Wide Open said:

Just from a misinformed perception, as we type here the fake news cult has been and still is being purged. 

Over 500 journalists were laid off in January 2024 alone

The job cuts come after an already bleak year in the news business.

The job cuts come after an already bleak year. The news industry shed 3,087 digital, broadcast and print news jobs in 2023 — the highest annual total since 2020, when 16,060 cuts were recorded.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/01/journalism-layoffs-00138517#:~:text=The news industry shed 3%2C087,when 16%2C060 cuts were recorded.

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People who dislike hearing the news from mainstream media have found plenty of better sources. I quit getting my local paper because of their left wing bent. All of the mainstream sources get most of their news from Associated Press which is free online. They give the news out before it hits your paper or the evening news. https://apnews.com/ Of course the editors know what they are supposed put out to the electorate. 

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11 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

It will go to the Supreme Court of the United States. 

 

 

People who dislike hearing the news from mainstream media have found plenty of better sources. I quit getting my local paper because of their left wing bent. All of the mainstream sources get most of their news from Associated Press which is free online. They give the news out before it hits your paper or the evening news. https://apnews.com/ Of course the editors know what they are supposed put out to the electorate. 

better sources.....you even got rid of your local paper.....wow you really must have some issues with reality

You sound like you are unable to deal with reality....best was is to shut off the news. Even your local news............paranoid

Your better sources...let me guess you are all in on the fake news site called Breitbart....truly an echo chamber for idiots and right wing nutjobs

It will go to the Supreme Court of the United States....yawn and they will side with todays decision as the decision (if you bothered to read it) is based on legal precedent and the constitution instead of the Trump claims that he can do anything.

 

Trump is Senile ...dementia has set in with the old fart.......he has not been playing with a full deck of cards for a long time

Trump will now be known as the guy who kept the borders open in 2024........

The Democrats have played him on immigration. All Trump had to say is they finally got with the Trump plan...instead he could not have anyone but himself get any credit......He is senile..

Optics is defeating him and the price of Gasoline ....$2.19 cents in my neck of the woods

Enjoy the trials

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1 hour ago, Ron Wagner said:

It will go to the Supreme Court of the United States. 

Of course it will, that appeals court shot themselves in the foot. There demanding a 7 days of appeal when 30 days of appeal is a constitutional right.

The desperation of a shotgun trial is overwhelming there thought processes. Under this ruling if made law would result in every politician's and judges protection from civil suits. 

Quite amazing is it not? I put it right next to a traffic court judge prosecuting a former sitting president under RICO...Meanwhile he's having a affair with the county prosecutor who unveiled the the prosecution against Trump..

Looney tunes lefty world malfunctioning  in high stride.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Of course it will, that appeals court shot themselves in the foot. There demanding a 7 days of appeal when 30 days of appeal is a constitutional right.

The desperation of a shotgun trial is overwhelming there thought processes. Under this ruling if made law would result in every politician's and judges protection from civil suits. 

Quite amazing is it not? I put it right next to a traffic court judge prosecuting a former sitting president under RICO...Meanwhile he's having a affair with the county prosecutor who unveiled the the prosecution against Trump..

Looney tunes lefty world malfunctioning  in high stride.

 

Please stop talking about constitutional rights. You keep making "arguments" that trump has a constitutional right to overturn the constitution.  Totally silly.  Your constitutional rights would be gone on "day one."  He says so himself.

It's also not a "shotgun trial" as the trail is over.  It is an appeal. The court does not need to do a retrial, they just need to make sure the law was interpreted properly by the lower court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkrWL7YuGk

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46 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Of course it will, that appeals court shot themselves in the foot. There demanding a 7 days of appeal when 30 days of appeal is a constitutional right.

The desperation of a shotgun trial is overwhelming there thought processes. Under this ruling if made law would result in every politician's and judges protection from civil suits. 

Quite amazing is it not? I put it right next to a traffic court judge prosecuting a former sitting president under RICO...Meanwhile he's having a affair with the county prosecutor who unveiled the the prosecution against Trump..

Looney tunes lefty world malfunctioning  in high stride.

 

 

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ha ha ha.....the letting of the appeals court to decide this was a huge mistake by Trump.....The Supreme Court will act on the Appeals court ruling IE The Appeals court laid out the law and arguments against anything Trump had to say........And the Supreme court now has to find errors in the appeals court ruling ....good luck.....the Supreme court hardly ever reverses appeals court ruling let alone they hardly ever revisit them...

ENJOY THE TRIAL it is coming sooner than you expect

And Trump

2 strikes against Trump already.....and we all know his argument to begin with is BS........

 

He keeps hoping to get saved and when you go back to the Supreme court over and over and over again, the Supreme Court gets sick of his whining..........

and the amount of days

Trump has to act within the ruling...good luck thinking that Trump is in charge of anything at this point...

Supreme court will not give Trump a hand up because he whines he wants more time.......ha ha ha

PS his lawyers are on the ropes and if this is their defense Not enough time?????Trump is toast.....

By the way how did your day go otherwise

Mayorkas farce is the best the GOP has to offer these days????.....ha ha ha GOP is a bunch of incompetent fools with this Biggest Fool of the all Trump , a loser, calling the shots

 

Now the Dems are trolling the GOP on the Border bill....GOP losers can not even jump onto a bill they been dying for for how many years  ....10??? 20???? oh lordy even Trump could not get such a restrictive Border bill passed and now the GOP is handing Border walls on a platter and they punt?????? ha ha ha GOP still unable to figure out a game plan ....and you wonder why Sleepy Joe won in 2020 and fro a repeat....2024......I enjoy watching the low IQ GOPers get their asses handed to them over and over again

Enjoy the Green Transition.........

Coal is Toast

Oil  is next

 

oh oh and all you have now??? is Hunter??? oh my still hunting for Sleepy Joe's lost parking ticket??? how long has the hunt gone on????? 6 years and the GOP can not even find its own arsehole

 

2024 GOP is going down in flames....Led by the corrupt Trump and the ill fated Abortion ruling......

 

Visiting days at Gitmo........only visiters Trump will take is call girls.........

 

 

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16 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Please stop talking about constitutional rights. You keep making "arguments" that trump has a constitutional right to overturn the constitution.  Totally silly.  Your constitutional rights would be gone on "day one."  He says so himself.

It's also not a "shotgun trial" as the trail is over.  It is an appeal. The court does not need to do a retrial, they just need to make sure the law was interpreted properly by the lower court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkrWL7YuGk

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15 hours ago, notsonice said:

ha ha ha.....the letting of the appeals court to decide this was a huge mistake by Trump.....The Supreme Court will act on the Appeals court ruling IE The Appeals court laid out the law and arguments against anything Trump had to say........And the Supreme court now has to find errors in the appeals court ruling ....good luck.....the Supreme court hardly ever reverses appeals court ruling let alone they hardly ever revisit them...

ENJOY THE TRIAL it is coming sooner than you expect

And Trump

2 strikes against Trump already.....and we all know his argument to begin with is BS........

 

He keeps hoping to get saved and when you go back to the Supreme court over and over and over again, the Supreme Court gets sick of his whining..........

and the amount of days

Trump has to act within the ruling...good luck thinking that Trump is in charge of anything at this point...

Supreme court will not give Trump a hand up because he whines he wants more time.......ha ha ha

PS his lawyers are on the ropes and if this is their defense Not enough time?????Trump is toast.....

By the way how did your day go otherwise

Mayorkas farce is the best the GOP has to offer these days????.....ha ha ha GOP is a bunch of incompetent fools with this Biggest Fool of the all Trump , a loser, calling the shots

 

Now the Dems are trolling the GOP on the Border bill....GOP losers can not even jump onto a bill they been dying for for how many years  ....10??? 20???? oh lordy even Trump could not get such a restrictive Border bill passed and now the GOP is handing Border walls on a platter and they punt?????? ha ha ha GOP still unable to figure out a game plan ....and you wonder why Sleepy Joe won in 2020 and fro a repeat....2024......I enjoy watching the low IQ GOPers get their asses handed to them over and over again

Enjoy the Green Transition.........

Coal is Toast

Oil  is next

 

oh oh and all you have now??? is Hunter??? oh my still hunting for Sleepy Joe's lost parking ticket??? how long has the hunt gone on????? 6 years and the GOP can not even find its own arsehole

 

2024 GOP is going down in flames....Led by the corrupt Trump and the ill fated Abortion ruling......

 

Visiting days at Gitmo........only visiters Trump will take is call girls.........

 

 

Ya Don't Say...LMAO Let The Drama Unfold.....

Is the Electoral Fix Already In?

The 2024 presidential race increasingly looks like it will be decided by lawyers, not voters, as Democrats unveil plans for America's first lawfare election

 

https://www.racket.news/p/is-the-electoral-fix-already-in

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43 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

 

Ya Don't Say...LMAO Let The Drama Unfold.....

Is the Electoral Fix Already In?

The 2024 presidential race increasingly looks like it will be decided by lawyers, not voters, as Democrats unveil plans for America's first lawfare election

 

https://www.racket.news/p/is-the-electoral-fix-already-in

yep all you got is another one of your hair brained conspiracies.....

keep promoting your BS it is all you have....

PS did you love 2020 and 2022 when Trump tried to convince voters not to vote by mail ...then he himself voted by mail

GOP Clownshow

Aug 19, 2020He voted by mail in Tuesday's Florida primaries but avoided the Postal Service, instead opting to give his ballot to a third party to turn ...
 
Dec 9, 2022Among many of the Republican Party elite, an idea is gaining traction: the GOP war on voting by mail was a strategic blunder.
 
Mar 15, 2023After years of claiming mail-in voting is rife with fraud, some Republicans – including former President Donald Trumpare working to ...

 

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Remember it is all about the Economy and the Fed will hand Sleepy Joe a Victory with rate cuts throughout this year

I must say I do enjoy your train of thought, it is rather amusing. A portrait of a man representing the US Presidency.

Biden trails Trump by 20 points on handling of economy: Poll

BY SARAH SIOCK - 02/04/24 11:13 AM ET

The poll comes as Biden has the lowest approval rating of his presidency at 37 percent.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/4447348-biden-trails-trump-by-20-points-on-handling-of-economy-poll/

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I must say I do enjoy your train of thought, it is rather amusing. A portrait of a man representing the US Presidency.

Biden trails Trump by 20 points on handling of economy: Poll

BY SARAH SIOCK - 02/04/24 11:13 AM ET

The poll comes as Biden has the lowest approval rating of his presidency at 37 percent.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/4447348-biden-trails-trump-by-20-points-on-handling-of-economy-poll/

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You watching the GOP clown show today

Border Bill in Senate voting right now....

Enjoy Trump owning himself blocking border security

a great vote getter ???? ha ha ha

GOP on issues?????

they do not even know their own party put together the Border Bill

enjoy the fallout

 

 

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Trump should head to the border ...he now owns the crisis...maybe he can house them all at Mar Largo....I will spring for some one way tickets for migrants needing  a new home....right to Mar Largo.......

 

The Trump party ...only the idiots are allowed in

 

PS this post is really for Ron......since he will never see the real news on the sites he hangs out at.. You think Fox news will cover the truth?????

HA HA HA HA

 

the owners of the Border Crisis Now.... Trump and his party of Idiots

 

boy that Sleepy Joe sure knows how to play the GOP and their dimwitted Boss

 

 


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What a day in America...a party of leaders putting up a president incapable of making decisions. A press Corp hiding the obvious. There are laws for such abuse..Elder abuse

 

Hur’s report included several shocking lines about Biden’s memory, which the report said “was significantly limited” during his 2023 interviews with the special counsel. Biden’s age and presentation would make it more difficult to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the now-81-year-old was 

He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013 — when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’),” the report said.

Biden also had difficulty remembering the timing of his son Beau’s death, as well as a debate about Afghanistan, the report said.

“He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died,” the report said.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/special-counsel-says-evidence-biden-willfully-retained-disclosed-class-rcna96666

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'Elderly' Joe Biden won't face charges over classified documents - and he could not remember when he was vice president, report says

After finding Joe Biden mishandled sensitive documents, Special Counsel Robert Hur said he chose not to bring criminal charges because the president cooperated and would likely be difficult to convict - and would seem like an "elderly man with a poor memory" to a jury.

In the red corner

Will Trump go to prison?

Will Donald Trump go to prison? | The Independent

Wow what a terrible choice of candidates the American people have to choose between for POTUS and the most powerful man in the world!

Truly scary stuff!

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Us becomes a country of old Presidents, Biden 1942 born, Trump 1946 born. While Xi Jinping, that is ruling China for 11 years is 1953, the same as Putin. Octogenarians are not good rulers, especially in US political systems that expects so much daily work from US President. Xi Jinping has the comfort of major politics rules to establish he is not answering  to anyone. He is not Prime Minister as US President is. Tough times for US supremacy with such an old people at the helm.

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But in the end I hope US will prevail, although China will be much bigger economy.

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On 2/9/2024 at 9:26 AM, Rob Plant said:

In the blue corner

'Elderly' Joe Biden won't face charges over classified documents - and he could not remember when he was vice president, report says

After finding Joe Biden mishandled sensitive documents, Special Counsel Robert Hur said he chose not to bring criminal charges because the president cooperated and would likely be difficult to convict - and would seem like an "elderly man with a poor memory" to a jury.

In the red corner

Will Trump go to prison?

Will Donald Trump go to prison? | The Independent

Wow what a terrible choice of candidates the American people have to choose between for POTUS and the most powerful man in the world!

Truly scary stuff!

I would prefer younger candidates, without question, and Trump should be barred from ever holding office again (full stop), but the characterization of Biden as being cognitively impaired is largely a Republican-led hit job. Much of what they attribute to Biden's memory issues is actually due to the remnants of his stuttering problem. Hur's comments in his over 300 page report related to Biden's poor memory are weird and extraneous, at best. And as others, including notsonice, have pointed out, Trump's recent mistakes suggest that even if Biden's cognitive decline is true, Trump's mental acuity may be equally lacking. The choice is still an easy one--don't pick the insurrectionist/dictator-wanna-be.

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On 2/9/2024 at 6:26 AM, Rob Plant said:

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'Elderly' Joe Biden won't face charges over classified documents - and he could not remember when he was vice president, report says

After finding Joe Biden mishandled sensitive documents, Special Counsel Robert Hur said he chose not to bring criminal charges because the president cooperated and would likely be difficult to convict - and would seem like an "elderly man with a poor memory" to a jury.

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Will Trump go to prison?

Will Donald Trump go to prison? | The Independent

Wow what a terrible choice of candidates the American people have to choose between for POTUS and the most powerful man in the world!

Truly scary stuff!

 

2 hours ago, Polyphia said:

I would prefer younger candidates, without question, and Trump should be barred from ever holding office again (full stop), but the characterization of Biden as being cognitively impaired is largely a Republican-led hit job. Much of what they attribute to Biden's memory issues is actually due to the remnants of his stuttering problem. Hur's comments in his over 300 page report related to Biden's poor memory are weird and extraneous, at best. And as others, including notsonice, have pointed out, Trump's recent mistakes suggest that even if Biden's cognitive decline is true, Trump's mental acuity may be equally lacking. The choice is still an easy one--don't pick the insurrectionist/dictator-wanna-be.

It is by far worse than being reported, below is the real crisis..the man loses his thought processes when under very light pressure 

Biden won’t be charged in classified docs case; special counsel cites instances of ‘poor memory’

The decision caps off a yearlong saga and means Donald Trump remains the only president in history to face criminal charges.
 
Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen,” the report said, but added that the evidence “does not establish Mr. Biden’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.”

We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” it said. “Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

 

 

“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013 — when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’),” the report said.

Biden also had difficulty remembering the timing of his son Beau’s death, as well as a debate about Afghanistan, the report said.

“He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died,” the report said.

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/special-counsel-says-evidence-biden-willfully-retained-disclosed-class-rcna96666

 

presence of mind

noun phrase

 
: self-control so maintained in an emergency or in an embarrassing situation that one can say or do the right thing
 

presence of mind

: ability to think clearly and act quickly in an emergency

 

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/presence of mind

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

 

It is by far worse than being reported, below is the real crisis..the man loses his thought processes when under very light pressure 

Biden won’t be charged in classified docs case; special counsel cites instances of ‘poor memory’

You are certain Biden will be impeached so why worry about his memory? :)

Eat crow.

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8 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

You are certain Biden will be impeached so why worry about his memory? :)

Eat crow.

After his follow up press conference it only has become worse. Watch the progressive closely...top leadership is already bailing out...Podesta comes to mind, suddenly he's Al Gore's  replacement..Question do you think he will be able to find temporary accommodations during the upcoming transition? 

As to impeachment now that is quite interesting is it not? Next week his son testifys before Congress and poor just like that old Joe's senile...rumor has it of course.

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

As to impeachment now that is quite interesting is it not? Next week his son testifys before Congress and poor just like that old Joe's senile...rumor has it of course.

Are you still holding out hope? :)

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2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

After his follow up press conference it only has become worse. Watch the progressive closely...top leadership is already bailing out...Podesta comes to mind, suddenly he's Al Gore's  replacement..Question do you think he will be able to find temporary accommodations during the upcoming transition? 

As to impeachment now that is quite interesting is it not? Next week his son testifys before Congress and poor just like that old Joe's senile...rumor has it of course.

testifys before Congress and poor????? did you graduate from High School??????

 

Trump loves his low IQ base.....He is the King of the Low IQ cult

testifys????   poor???????????

 

Dude, do you realize as you compose your post that the words that are underlined with red are misspelled??? and do you understand the difference between poor and pour???????

 

you seem to think that MTG, Gaetz and Boebert have brains?????... Three Stooges who all think impeachment is the path forward for the GOP.....ha ha ha Stooges for Trump...

impeachment??? yeah that is working out real well for the GOP ...........    You need Santos...He was your go to guy for those big votes....

ha ha  ha....GOP has  majority in the House???????   a joke
 

The GOP .....the Stooges are in charge........Maybe you can get Boebert (if she has time between trying to figure out where she needs to move to) to run for the Leader of the GOP.....as your party boss Johnson is washed up and Gaetz is waiting in the wings for his chance 

 

 

 

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