Rob Plant + 2,756 RP August 2, 2023 Green Hydrogen Gets Greener With Record-Breaking Solar Device And another scientific improvement! https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Green-Hydrogen-Gets-Greener-With-Record-Breaking-Solar-Device.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM August 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Green Hydrogen Gets Greener With Record-Breaking Solar Device And another scientific improvement! https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Green-Hydrogen-Gets-Greener-With-Record-Breaking-Solar-Device.html The guy from down under is not going to like what you are posting........ If hydrogen is the answer, you're asking the wrong question markslawson April 24 in Renewables ouch he is barking up the wrong tree Great News Tech is going to wipe out Coal and Oil faster than anyone can imagine 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP August 3, 2023 12 hours ago, notsonice said: The guy from down under is not going to like what you are posting........ He'll be really pissed at me! lol lets post some more then. Australia’s clean hydrogen revolution is a path to prosperity – but it must be powered by renewable energy https://theconversation.com/australias-clean-hydrogen-revolution-is-a-path-to-prosperity-but-it-must-be-powered-by-renewable-energy-169832 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP August 3, 2023 CWP Global thinks big (26GW-big) for Australia’s hydrogen revolution https://www.austrade.gov.au/news/success-stories/cwp-global-thinks-big-26gw-big-for-australia-s-hydrogen-revolution Mark its happenning in your own back yard now and 26GW is pretty damn big! I think you need to get going on that book of yours to wake everyone up from this hydrogen mania! 🤣 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP October 18, 2023 Biden Unveils $7 Billion Jackpot To Build Regional Hydrogen Hubs Biden Unveils $7 Billion Jackpot To Build Regional Hydrogen Hubs | OilPrice.com Yet another massive project on the way in H2 Mark have you changed your mind on this yet? The level of investment in H2 is staggering and clearly it is going to be one of the key "new fuels" of the future for lots of different industries and transportation in the future. Technology breakthroughs are almost weekly, driving costs down rapidly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM October 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Biden Unveils $7 Billion Jackpot To Build Regional Hydrogen Hubs Biden Unveils $7 Billion Jackpot To Build Regional Hydrogen Hubs | OilPrice.com Yet another massive project on the way in H2 Mark have you changed your mind on this yet? The level of investment in H2 is staggering and clearly it is going to be one of the key "new fuels" of the future for lots of different industries and transportation in the future. Technology breakthroughs are almost weekly, driving costs down rapidly. hydrogen ----ammonia they go hand in hand....... first fulfilling the existing market for Ammonia which is huge in the US......Think Fertilizer Green Hydrogen converted to Green Ammonia today has so much room to grow Third world countries will finally get a real cheap source of home made Ammonia based fertilizers right now annual global CO2 emissions from Ammonia production is in the 600 to 700 million tons 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM October 27, 2023 Green Hydrogen....Green Ammonia the Green Agenda ....Enjoy it MSN Green ammonia is probably 'the best way forward' in energy transition, says Global Energy Storage Eric Arnold of Global Energy Storage discusses why he likes ammonia as a part of the energy transition but says the biggest hurdle is the... . 20 hours ago ICIS India developing port infrastructure for green hydrogen exports Priya Jestin. 27-Oct-2023. Jump to. Full story. Related news. Related content. Contact us. SHARE THIS. MUMBAI (ICIS)–India is exploring export opportunities... . 7 hours ago Renewables Now Brazil's Ceara govt inks new pact for green ammonia production Brazil's Ceara state government has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with local solar company GoVerde Energia and its majority... . 2 days ago Balkan Green Energy News Green ammonia hub set to start operations in Croatia in 2027 A startup called Green Energy Park is developing a supply chain for a major green ammonia import and supply hub in Krk in Croatia. . 3 days ago 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 10, 2023 Japan And South Korea Look To Build Hydrogen Supply Chain https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Japan-And-South-Korea-Look-To-Build-Hydrogen-Supply-Chain.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 28, 2023 Of all our climate change efforts, JP Morgan says hydrogen will be the “pivotal” source of energy over the coming decades, with both nuclear fusion and carbon capture, utilization and storage (CCUS) “unlikely to have a significant impact prior to 2030. New Reactor Design Is A Gamechanger For Green Hydrogen | OilPrice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,194 November 29, 2023 No, Ammonia will NOT be mass transported. Why? Ammonia has one main use: Fertilzer... Sounds good right? Everyone needs fertilizer right? Right? Except, the acerage(soil types) and crop types you can use Ammonia on is VERY LIMITED and can only be applied at VERY specific parts of the year as it goes POOF into the air without special circumstances and applied fixers(yet more expense). It also requires MUCH more expensive equipment to handle which leaves the developing world out, and you cannot store it effectively without ... yet MORE expensive equipment which eliminates even most LARGE farms in the west who do have the $$$. Only the extremely large farms can use it and then only SOME TIMES. If you have to convert the ammonia to H2 to use in other industries, this = horrifically inefficient and why it won't be done by anyone other than government boondongle fiat. But, Ammonia can be more easily stored than H2... But if you want a storage of power, why not just CH4 instead of NH3? They are both gases, but one is not horrifically toxic. Ammonia will never happen other than government fiat. CH4 on the other hand made from Solar/Wind is at least in a form EVERYONE can use for EVERYTHING fitting Existing Infrastructure! The H2 religious cult is quite amusing. Keep bringing these links, they are hilarious. All these illiterate political whores blathering on about engineering, quite amusing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 29, 2023 9 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: No, Ammonia will NOT be mass transported. Why? Ammonia has one main use: Fertilzer... Sounds good right? Everyone needs fertilizer right? Right? Except, the acerage(soil types) and crop types you can use Ammonia on is VERY LIMITED and can only be applied at VERY specific parts of the year as it goes POOF into the air without special circumstances and applied fixers(yet more expense). It also requires MUCH more expensive equipment to handle which leaves the developing world out, and you cannot store it effectively without ... yet MORE expensive equipment which eliminates even most LARGE farms in the west who do have the $$$. Only the extremely large farms can use it and then only SOME TIMES. If you have to convert the ammonia to H2 to use in other industries, this = horrifically inefficient and why it won't be done by anyone other than government boondongle fiat. But, Ammonia can be more easily stored than H2... But if you want a storage of power, why not just CH4 instead of NH3? They are both gases, but one is not horrifically toxic. Ammonia will never happen other than government fiat. CH4 on the other hand made from Solar/Wind is at least in a form EVERYONE can use for EVERYTHING fitting Existing Infrastructure! The H2 religious cult is quite amusing. Keep bringing these links, they are hilarious. All these illiterate political whores blathering on about engineering, quite amusing. Continue to bury your head in the sand its amusing. Your ignorance to the investment in H2 production is frankly staggering! Its a fledgling industry that every major energy company is jumping on everywhere, I suppose theyre all wrong and youre right? Ever thought you could just be wrong and their scientists know a damn sight more than you which is why they are ALL committing to billions of dollars in investment and start up projects? Ive posted more than a dozen H2 tech breakthroughs on here in less than a year, you must be a luddite like ECO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,553 December 5, 2023 Strongly in the running in Wyoming with big names behind it: https://wyoenergy.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Black-Hills-Energy-EMF-Executive-Summary.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,491 December 5, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 4:07 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said: No, Ammonia will NOT be mass transported. Ammonia is already mass transported you imbecile. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP December 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Ammonia is already mass transported you imbecile. He probably meant H2 which he would be correct about, however large scale pipelines are mooted which he probably doesnt know. Hydrogen Deep Ocean Link: a global sustainable interconnected energy grid - ScienceDirect Europe’s first national hydrogen pipeline network to start construction this month | Hydrogen news and intelligence (hydrogeninsight.com) Europe pushes ahead with hydrogen pipelines to meet energy demand (ft.com) European Firms Float Gulf Hydrogen Pipeline Concept - Market Insights (eepower.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 5, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 5:07 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said: No, Ammonia will NOT be mass transported. But, Ammonia can be more easily stored than H2... But if you want a storage of power, why not just CH4 instead of NH3? They are both gases, but one is not horrifically toxic. Ammonia will never happen other than government fiat. CH4 on the other hand made from Solar/Wind is at least in a form EVERYONE can use for EVERYTHING fitting Existing Infrastructure! The H2 religious cult is quite amusing. Keep bringing these links, they are hilarious. All these illiterate political whores blathering on about engineering, quite amusing. As mentioned, ammonia is already mass transported. Ammonia leaks are a huge risk to human and aquatic health. You can however, transport ammonia in a less risky solid form as ammonium salts. Methane made from solar or wind would require CO2 and hydrogen to produce, so it's just different a form of storing hydrogen. You can also dump hydrogen into existing natural gas infrastructure at low percentages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 898 MP December 17, 2023 https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/09/white-hydrogen-deposit-france/ https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1011445 These articles suggest we don't have to make hydrogen, all we have to do is find it in underground formations. The second of these two articles discusses looking for evidence of hydrogen deposits based on surface features - which ignores the amount of hydrogen that might be found under water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP December 19, 2023 (edited) For those who dont believe H2 is a massively expanding industry then just take a quick look at the below link (its a good read) and see which companies are on the Hydrogen council and look at the level of investment that will happen by 2030 and is already happening as we speak. Hydrogen-Insights-2023.pdf (hydrogencouncil.com) Its mind boggling to think that Mark started this thread in the first place, as its obvious that all energy majors and global OEM's are all jumping on the H2 bandwagon. Maybe they know something he doesnt, hmmm. Edited December 19, 2023 by Rob Plant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 898 MP December 19, 2023 US Geological Survey summary of how natural hydrogen forms, where it accumulates, how it is consumed or released, and how it could be extracted or harnessed in place. https://www.usgs.gov/news/featured-story/potential-geologic-hydrogen-next-generation-energy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP December 20, 2023 An interesting read and where Europe is heading for energy security https://www.h2inframap.eu/#introduction Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP January 17 Mitsubishi to Invest in World’s Largest Green Hydrogen Project Mitsubishi to Invest in World’s Largest Green Hydrogen Project | OilPrice.com Mark it must be a bitch to be soooo wrong on this topic. Bet you wish you hadnt started this thread lol. As of May 2023, more than 1,000 large-scale hydrogen projects have been announced globally, amounting to $320 billion in direct investments.27 Sept 2023 Do you think these global OEM's/utilities/energy firms have all gotten it wrong? Maybe you could advise them as a consultant where they are all going wrong, charge AUD 5K/ day for your services. You'll make a lot more than your book sales! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,194 January 19 On 1/17/2024 at 2:11 AM, Rob Plant said: Mitsubishi to Invest in World’s Largest Green Hydrogen Project Mitsubishi to Invest in World’s Largest Green Hydrogen Project | OilPrice.com Mark it must be a bitch to be soooo wrong on this topic. Bet you wish you hadnt started this thread lol. As of May 2023, more than 1,000 large-scale hydrogen projects have been announced globally, amounting to $320 billion in direct investments.27 Sept 2023 Do you think these global OEM's/utilities/energy firms have all gotten it wrong? Maybe you could advise them as a consultant where they are all going wrong, charge AUD 5K/ day for your services. You'll make a lot more than your book sales! Did you bother to READ your link? Is it being built in Japan? No. Rotterdam... via government GUARANTEED idiotic price points. Are ANY of these projects being done with private money? No. Why? private companies can do math which fool salesmen can't and are PROUD they can't do math while whining others aren't doing the math for them along with nobrains. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP January 19 6 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Did you bother to READ your link? Is it being built in Japan? No. Rotterdam... via government GUARANTEED idiotic price points. Are ANY of these projects being done with private money? No. Why? private companies can do math which fool salesmen can't and are PROUD they can't do math while whining others aren't doing the math for them along with nobrains. Again youre demonstarting your backwardness. What does it matter where the project is being done??? Mitsubishi are a global player!! You again provide no evidence for your point of view Do you really think no global OEM's, utilities, energy firms (Equinor, BP, Shell etc) have put any investment in themselves. Yes there are MAX price points which they can then charge, this is to protect the consumer, this is standard practice, however the cost of the infratructure/project is largely borne by the above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP January 26 Oman Is Looking To Become a Green Energy Hub Oman Is Looking To Become a Green Energy Hub | OilPrice.com Many multinationals and Oil majors involved in various projects. Key is if they get funding approval, but I doubt they wont as they need to diversify. Literally everyone is looking at H2 and a way to get on the bandwagon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP January 26 On 4/25/2023 at 2:04 AM, markslawson said: Unlike power from coal and gas renewable energy can be generated anywhere What a stupid comment, do you really think the price and efficiencies are the same for renewables in every country? Every country has different resources and weather patterns. "Blakers cites an estimate that converting energy to hydrogen, shipping it to where it is needed and then converting back into energy could consume 70 per cent of the energy generated." Why would anyone want to do that, thats utterly ridiculous? You can use ammonia to transport it, hell it can even power the ship! The world's first clean ammonia-powered container ship | Yara International Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 898 MP January 26 1 hour ago, Rob Plant said: "Blakers cites an estimate that converting energy to hydrogen, shipping it to where it is needed and then converting back into energy could consume 70 per cent of the energy generated." By the time a tank full of gasoline is pumped into a car, how much of the energy pumped out of the ground as oil has been consumed separating out the contaminants, piping or trucking the oil to a storage tank, piping it to a refinery, refining it, piping or trucking the refined product to a service station, and so forth? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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