Stormysaga + 62 AB September 14, 2018 Amazon founder and Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos sharply criticized President Trump over his treatment of the news media, urging the president not to "demonize" members of the press. The billionaire called on Trump to tone down his "dangerous" rhetoric aimed at reporters and news publications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV September 14, 2018 Thanks for standing up for a free press. But I'd rather he pays his employees a living wage. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK September 14, 2018 Says the guy who hires trolls to spread misinformation about Amazon work conditions. 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sofia + 35 SP September 14, 2018 I have my issues with Bezos. I have my issues with Facebook and Twitter and Google. I have my issues with Trump, too. It's hard to keep anyone's side here. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackTortoise + 103 CM September 14, 2018 It's shameful that this man "represents" progressives. He needs to be called to task, loudly and frequently. He's part of the problem, not the solution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey J. Hill + 8 JH September 14, 2018 It seems that everyone is ripping the president for "demonizing" the press. It is true that our president often bases his opinion on "questionable or unsubstantiated evidence". But for years, it is also true that members of the 'fourth estate' have editorialized the news. In the end, I (Jeff Hill in Miami FL) think it is a wash. But having said that, the mid-terms may change everything. Or they may change n-o-t-h-i-n-g. We shall see! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TXPower + 643 TP September 14, 2018 Let’s think this through. Why did Mr. Bezos buy The Washington Post to begin with? Clowns like WaPo, CNN and others, their owners and their defenders masquerading as fact sharers, need to be intellectually honest and examine whether they truly report facts or weave stories to control public opinion. Break Free from your masters MSM. Throw off your socialist-elite owners who would engineer public opinion. Go back to your roots and report facts. Become accountable to truth telling, to the people and fact sharing, whether it supports your ideology or not. Then and only then will you cease to be the enemy of the people. Right now you are no better than the KGB controlled news outlets of yesterday. You have earned your title and it is not Reporter, wear it. 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG September 15, 2018 The Old-School reporters wouldn't work for Bezos. Then again, they wouldn't work for The Donald, either. Sure is getting hard to make a living as a reporter, at least one with any integrity. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 September 15, 2018 51 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said: Sure is getting hard to make a living as a reporter, at least one with any integrity. 1 minute video. Verbatim news. Integrity? https://youtu.be/HlnFuDCHpus 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 September 15, 2018 A current 1 minute video. Weatherman faking it, badly. 15 seconds in, watch the 2 guys casually stroll by without a care in the world, as the weatherman overacts the storm. Again at the end, the 2 carefree dudes meander around... https://youtu.be/XFh-X1bv4P0 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 September 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: The Old-School reporters wouldn't work for Bezos. Then again, they wouldn't work for The Donald, either. Sure is getting hard to make a living as a reporter, at least one with any integrity. Interesting article: Washington Post employees call out owner Jeff Bezos over paper’s pay and benefits in open letter To quote one of the commenters: Charles Spurgeon • 3 months ago ". . . the staff is 'extremely grateful that you stepped in to purchase the Post at a time when the traditional media model was collapsing, and we have given our all to take advantage of the long runway you promised.'” In other words, we probably wouldn't have a job if Bezos wouldn't have rescued our dying newspaper, but the way we express our "gratitude" is by demanding that our new owner "spread the wealth." (No wonder the media overwhelmingly supported Obama.) While I'm not a fan of Bezos' politics, he saved their bacon. Last I checked, no one stuck a gun to their heads and required them to work for the WA Post. If you don't think you're getting fair market value, prove how much you're worth by quitting and going to another company that pays better. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 September 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Stormysaga said: Amazon founder and Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos sharply criticized President Trump over his treatment of the news media, urging the president not to "demonize" members of the press. The billionaire called on Trump to tone down his "dangerous" rhetoric aimed at reporters and news publications. Classic! We can consistently print complete bias, quote anyone (next cubicle?) as an unnamed/anonymous source, and attribute quotes taken out of context; but don't you dare call us out on it! We are the press! We are protected! Don't look at the Wizard, he doesn't influence what we write. I think the part about integrity is the key to this argument, as other posters have already said. That, and I think the journalistic world (is that a real term?) needs to self impose a sort of "escrow" group of "peers across boarders" made up of members of news companies from both the left and the right, whereas anonymous sources can be vetted and/or confirmed without having to name them. It doesn't require a meeting, just a poll on their mobile devices, with annual reviews of their own performance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 September 15, 2018 (edited) What can you expect after MSM biased coverage of presidential election in 2016. What goes around, comes around. Edited September 15, 2018 by Tomasz 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marina Schwarz + 1,576 September 16, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 9:18 PM, Jeffrey J. Hill said: It seems that everyone is ripping the president for "demonizing" the press. It is true that our president often bases his opinion on "questionable or unsubstantiated evidence". But for years, it is also true that members of the 'fourth estate' have editorialized the news. In the end, I (Jeff Hill in Miami FL) think it is a wash. But having said that, the mid-terms may change everything. Or they may change n-o-t-h-i-n-g. We shall see! Decades. Unbiased news coverage is so rare these days it's a miracle when I come across it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 September 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said: Decades. Unbiased news coverage is so rare these days it's a miracle when I come across it. It is rare, and when I find articles written in an unbiased manner I check them out as best I can and then highlight or bookmark them so I can see more of their future coverage. Will the market win out in this area? I mean, if the market sorts out the natural winners, won't we see enough people cancelling subscriptions on the biased news providers and see subscriptions to unbiased sites put all but the most right or left leaning sites out of business? One can hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ziegler + 121 RZ September 17, 2018 "News" is a product and as such under the same marketing and sales pressures as any other product. What goes as "news" is mainly propaganda and entertainment, most often combined. If you want to hear truth, attend a Tridentine Mass..... The truth about this world you can only painstakingly and slowly discover by finding and analyzing multiple sources - some very obscure - and paint your own picture. But the question is, do you really want to know much of it, because it is not only lonely, but really dangerous out there if you get close, even if it is stuff that happened well over 100 years ago. And you have to be a very strong character to realize that there is nothing you can do, most people will think you are crazy should you talk about it (as they read Bezos-rags &/or watch CNN or Fox) and so you have to live with the knowledge and the impotence, or destroy yourself in a lonely fight against windmills (literally, sometimes): Someone like Assange may be a hero, but also a martyr, missing out on family, happiness, and transmitting his genes to the next generation. And still knows only a small fraction of "the truth" on top of that.... Whereas the ones he "exposed" were at best inconvenienced for a few days, and then continued business as usual, while plotting slowly his utter physical destruction. So realize, the only world you really can influence and form is your family/children, and many fail miserably even at that fairly narrow task. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 September 17, 2018 Heh heh CNN Ratings Collapse, Losing To Nickelodeon And Fox News Trump's "fake news" nemesis, CNN, experienced a dramatic collapse in ratings last week compared to 2017.According to AdWeek, CNN viewership tumbled 41% in daytime TV ratings and tumbled 36% in primetime versus the same week last year. "CNN ranked No. 6 across basic cable in total primetime viewers, and No. 5 in total day this past week. Despite the top 10 finishes, the network was -36 percent in primetime viewers, and -41 percent in total day viewers vs. the same week last year", AdWeek wrote. ... In basic cable, CNN placed fifth with ESPN and Nickelodeon placing No. 3 and No. 4, respectively as Sponge Bob suddenly emerges to be more popular/credible than Jake Tapper and Chris Cuomo. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dhpowelson@hotmail.com 0 dp September 17, 2018 Of course Bezos doesn't like Trump. He is one of the media-Washington Post. Lay it on him Trump and all the other jerks like him. Doug Powelson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ceo_energemsier + 1,818 cv September 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: Heh heh CNN Ratings Collapse, Losing To Nickelodeon And Fox News Trump's "fake news" nemesis, CNN, experienced a dramatic collapse in ratings last week compared to 2017.According to AdWeek, CNN viewership tumbled 41% in daytime TV ratings and tumbled 36% in primetime versus the same week last year. "CNN ranked No. 6 across basic cable in total primetime viewers, and No. 5 in total day this past week. Despite the top 10 finishes, the network was -36 percent in primetime viewers, and -41 percent in total day viewers vs. the same week last year", AdWeek wrote. ... In basic cable, CNN placed fifth with ESPN and Nickelodeon placing No. 3 and No. 4, respectively as Sponge Bob suddenly emerges to be more popular/credible than Jake Tapper and Chris Cuomo. Here you go, another one https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/16/media/salesforce-marc-benioff-time-magazine/index.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcambl61 + 20 MC September 18, 2018 all the while his paper keeps making stuff up or purposely omitting news it does not want to print Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcambl61 + 20 MC September 18, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 10:54 PM, Adam Varga said: Thanks for standing up for a free press. But I'd rather he pays his employees a living wage. the press has never been silenced in any way, it has however, been remarkably biased for decades. That is coming to an end due to alternative sources. they are too arrogant to play things fairly, as usual progressives assume everyone should be one, and if you are not, you are part of the "problem" then we have the so called fact checking websites full of bias. amazing 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Lavis + 55 September 18, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 12:46 PM, Tom Kirkman said: 1 minute video. Verbatim news. Integrity? https://youtu.be/HlnFuDCHpus This video was no surprise. I've heard them called three different job titles: Newsreader (they read it, as in your YouTube video share). News presenter (its a presentation, like a sales or marketing presentation). News caster (like fishing, they cast out and try to catch people) I've never seen the profession called 'news connoisseurs' or 'news ambassadors'. Seems honest enough to me. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites