huge-deposit-of-natural-hydrogen-gas-detected-deep-in-albanian-mine

[Ron Wagner + 714]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2416060-huge-deposit-of-natural-hydrogen-gas-detected-deep-in-albanian-mine/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2024-02-09-Underground-hyd 

huge-deposit-of-natural-hydrogen-gas-detected-deep-in-albanian-mine

Will hydrogen ever be able to compete on price with natural gas? Is it found in amounts that could compete? Most hydrogen is taken from natural gas. 

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-natural-gas-reforming#:~:text=Although today most hydrogen is,produce hydrogen from renewable resources.

[notsonice + 1,266]

5 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2416060-huge-deposit-of-natural-hydrogen-gas-detected-deep-in-albanian-mine/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2024-02-09-Underground-hyd 

huge-deposit-of-natural-hydrogen-gas-detected-deep-in-albanian-mine

Will hydrogen ever be able to compete on price with natural gas? Is it found in amounts that could compete? Most hydrogen is taken from natural gas. 

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-natural-gas-reforming#:~:text=Although today most hydrogen is,produce hydrogen from renewable resources.

from your article

 

“The bubbling is really, really intense,” says Laurent Truche at the University of Grenoble Alpes in France, who measured the gas in a pool of water nearly a kilometre underground. “It’s like a Jacuzzi.”

 It was flowing at a rate of 11 tonnes per year,????

shit, the gassy mine I work in the 80s was putting out over 40,000 tons of methane a year........

 

 

 

how does that compare to your 11 tonnes a year........

the find of hydrogen in Albania....a joke

 

 

 

Gassy mines are everywhere..........they are significant producers of Green House gases......

Gassy Coal mines are a menace 

 

bubbling gas is  called bleeders.....they are everywhere in gassy mines.......not worth the money to try to catch the bleeder gas.....

 

and no one would call bleeders of 11 tonnes a year a HUGE DEPOSIT.....

 

 

The Green Transition has a path for reducing coal mining...reducing Methane emissions and  reducing Nat gas use to create hydrogen.......

 

It is called Green Hydrogen

PS a tornado in Wisconsin in February ??????

should be a wake up call to those denying that Humans are screwing up the planet

 

 

 

Edited February 10 by notsonice

[TailingsPond + 1,013]

Any Helium in a very light gas find is probably worth much more than the fuel.

Edited February 10 by TailingsPond

[Eric Gagen + 713]

50,000 tons sounds like a lot, but it really isn't annual natural gas production in the world today is ~ 4 trillion cubic meters, which is equivalent to 2,700 billion tons a year - this deposit in Albania can, at best displace ~ 10 minutes of world demand for natural gas.

 

What's really interesting, is that up to this point the amount of naturally occuring hydrogen found in the earth has been ~ zero.  The fact that there is any outside of outerspace, or hydrogen we have manufactured deserves serious study.  It's entirely possible there are larger deposits somewhere else which might be of economic interest.  

 

This particular deposit, while small on the world scale could actually have some meaningful effect in a nation with an economy as small as Albania's.  it's equivalent to a natural gas field of ~ 0.02 - 2 trillion cubic ft or .008 - .08 billion cubic meters - that's not huge but it's in the commercial range if you reliably drill into it, and find a use for it.

[notsonice + 1,266]

7 hours ago, Eric Gagen said:

50,000 tons sounds like a lot, but it really isn't annual natural gas production in the world today is ~ 4 trillion cubic meters, which is equivalent to 2,700 billion tons a year - this deposit in Albania can, at best displace ~ 10 minutes of world demand for natural gas.

 

What's really interesting, is that up to this point the amount of naturally occuring hydrogen found in the earth has been ~ zero.  The fact that there is any outside of outerspace, or hydrogen we have manufactured deserves serious study.  It's entirely possible there are larger deposits somewhere else which might be of economic interest.  

 

This particular deposit, while small on the world scale could actually have some meaningful effect in a nation with an economy as small as Albania's.  it's equivalent to a natural gas field of ~ 0.02 - 2 trillion cubic ft or .008 - .08 billion cubic meters - that's not huge but it's in the commercial range if you reliably drill into it, and find a use for it.

 natural gas production in the world today is ~ 4 trillion cubic meters, which is equivalent to 2,700 billion tons a year????

 

your saying the weight of of one cubic meter of nat gas weighs around .7 tonnes????????

more like 2.7 billion tonnes not 2,700 billion tonnes (2.7 Trillion) 
 

your way off on your math.....need to look at what you post and do  a reality check

coal production is 8 billion plus tonnes a year and your saying Nat gas is 350 times coal production???????

try again

the Albanian find......again this is considered a very small bleeder in a coal mine and no one ...I say no one gets excited about an 11 tonne per year bleeder

The Albanian find is nothing to even report and the search for more??? a waste of money  you would need to find a deposit of a 100,000 tonnes to a  million tonnes of hydrogen......what they found was again not worth mentioning

 

In today's world if you leak 50,000 tonnes of methane from an oil or gas well.....this is huge...and it is regulated

but from a coal mine today?????? no one pays attention and it is not regulated

PS 50,000 tonnes is the amount of a mid sized LNG ship capacity or about 25 million dollars worth  of gas

Edited February 12 by notsonice