TailingsPond + 633 GE May 3 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Turbguy ground yourself, do you actually believe the commodity exchange/broker/refiner/distributor would personally pay you personally? Asking for a friend of course..she seems to believe you have quite a bit of self esteem. Look closer at the title. The title is "They pay YOU to TAKE Natural Gas" It clearly says you. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM May 3 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Turbguy ground yourself, do you actually believe the commodity exchange/broker/refiner/distributor would personally pay you personally? Asking for a friend of course..she seems to believe you have quite a bit of self esteem. Look closer at the title. Look closer at the title????? They pay YOU to TAKE Natural Gas footeab@yahoo.com Wednesday at 06:34 PM in Oil (General) I am still waiting for my check Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM May 3 Just now, TailingsPond said: The title is "They pay YOU to TAKE Natural Gas" It clearly says you. EWO is a bit challenged when it comes to reading and grammar ............. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,552 May 3 34 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: The title is "They pay YOU to TAKE Natural Gas" It clearly says you. 34 minutes ago, notsonice said: Look closer at the title????? They pay YOU to TAKE Natural Gas footeab@yahoo.com Wednesday at 06:34 PM in Oil (General) I am still waiting for my check 32 minutes ago, notsonice said: EWO is a bit challenged when it comes to reading and grammar ............. Then there is the Bat Chit Crazy Boyz...definitely in another alternative reality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE May 3 11 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Then there is the Bat Chit Crazy Boyz...definitely in another alternative reality. Just admit your mistake with dignity. Do not tell people to look closer at the title when you didn't do that yourself. You were referring to the opening line, it was an honest mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,518 May 3 4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Turbguy ground yourself, do you actually believe the commodity exchange/broker/refiner/distributor would personally pay you personally? Asking for a friend of course..she seems to believe you have quite a bit of self esteem. Look closer at the title. So, no solid evidence from you, either. Ah, well... My bill breaks out all the middlemen, distribution, and other "stuff". The energy charge has NEVER been zero. Still waiting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,552 May 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, turbguy said: The energy charge has NEVER been zero. Just ask the citizens of the UK or Germany....they may very well state cut the whining it is very unbecoming of you. All things are relative, paying you to consume is and was part of that equation. Edited May 4 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,518 May 4 1 minute ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Just ask the citizens of the UK or Germany....they may very well state cut the whining it is very unbecoming of you. Still, my NG bill's energy charge has never been zero. Yours? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,552 May 4 22 minutes ago, turbguy said: Still, my NG bill's energy charge has never been zero. Yours? A thought towards your mindset,even the air you breathe is not free. It does require energy...Yet they say air you breathe is free do they not? The liberal mindset is a dichotomy in terms. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE May 4 50 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: A thought towards your mindset,even the air you breathe is not free. It does require energy...Yet they say air you breathe is free do they not? The liberal mindset is a dichotomy in terms. Did you get a large air bill this month? Your troll attempts are getting really weak. Try harder - maybe find a new GIF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,518 May 4 (edited) 8 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: A thought towards your mindset,even the air you breathe is not free. It does require energy...Yet they say air you breathe is free do they not? The liberal mindset is a dichotomy in terms. That mindset of "non-free air" reminds me of a plot twist from this publication: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Helmet Where Donald would own the atmosphere, and bill everyone 1¢ for a breath, and 5¢ for a sigh. This was one of Carl Barks' strongest stories, centered about human greed. Edited May 4 by turbguy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE May 4 1 hour ago, turbguy said: That mindset of "non-free air" reminds me of a plot twist from this publication: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Helmet Where Donald would own the atmosphere, and bill everyone 1¢ for a breath, and 5¢ for a sigh. This was one of Carl Barks' strongest stories, centered about human greed. How fitting is the name Donald. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,552 May 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, TailingsPond said: How fitting is the name Donald. Agreed had the EU leadership only listened, below a news release...Quite illuminating, for your viewing pleasure. https://youtu.be/1JpwkeTBwgs?feature=shared Edited May 4 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE May 4 2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Agreed had the EU leadership only listened, below a news release...Quite illuminating, for your viewing pleasure. https://youtu.be/1JpwkeTBwgs?feature=shared Donald is a character in a story about selling air. How much was your air bill this month? To quote you "even the air you breathe is not free." So how much did you pay for air? How much did they pay you to take natural gas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,187 May 5 21 hours ago, turbguy said: Still, my NG bill's energy charge has never been zero. Yours? Well mama's boy, the world does not come to you to kiss your arse. Only your mama Well, boy, you do have to MOVE your arse to Texas and get tied into the hub down there via your own pipeline... They aren't coming to YOU to kiss your arse with a gift. Or move your house to ND and tie into one of those wells that is still flaring and they will pay you as well as they will not have to pay for flaring permits. Funny how that works eh.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE May 5 13 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Well mama's boy, the world does not come to you to kiss your arse. Only your mama Well, boy, you do have to MOVE your arse to Texas and get tied into the hub down there via your own pipeline... They aren't coming to YOU to kiss your arse with a gift. Or move your house to ND and tie into one of those wells that is still flaring and they will pay you as well as they will not have to pay for flaring permits. Funny how that works eh.... You know that is not true. Show me a link to an energy company that offers paid contracts for natural gas removal from a well site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,518 May 7 (edited) On 5/4/2024 at 8:34 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said: Well mama's boy, the world does not come to you to kiss your arse. Only your mama Well, boy, you do have to MOVE your arse to Texas and get tied into the hub down there via your own pipeline... They aren't coming to YOU to kiss your arse with a gift. Or move your house to ND and tie into one of those wells that is still flaring and they will pay you as well as they will not have to pay for flaring permits. Funny how that works eh.... So, NG is cheaper in Texas and North Dakota? And, I have to move there and I only have to install some infrastructure to deliver said cheap gas? If gas is "~free" there, please show us a residential NG bill, from someone who lives in those states. with a "~free" charge for energy. The air, and the sunlight, carry no billing, at all. THAT is free. Edited May 7 by turbguy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 680 May 9 On 5/2/2024 at 12:00 AM, turbguy said: Interesting info. Now, please show me a residential gas bill that has a NEGATIVE amount for the cost of energy delivered. Anywhere in the USA. Anybody in Texas willing to do that? The residential and most business prices are probably as high as ever. The cost of delivering the gas is about as high as the gas itself and they will try to keep it that way. That is my guess. The availability of the low price gas points to the need of trucks to switch to it rather than diesel as time goes on. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,732 RP May 9 On 5/7/2024 at 2:35 AM, turbguy said: If gas is "~free" there, please show us a residential NG bill, from someone who lives in those states. with a "~free" charge for energy. He cant obviously! Its about as free as travelling in one of his tunnels would be if he could ever get the finances and business plan together, he cant do that either of course! Ive found a letter from Footinmouth's girlfriend Dude Fascinates The Internet After Girlfriend’s Plea About Tunnel Digging Obsession As being a hobby-haver goes, one anonymous advice-seeker's boyfriend has fallen at both these hurdles. The woman has recently been receiving attention on Twitter for seeking counsel on her significant other's tunnel digging habit. According to her post, the tunnel is being dug on some property that her boyfriend inherited, and he is beginning to spend almost all his spare time dedicated to making it longer. She claimed to be asking for advice mostly because she was afraid that what he was doing might be a safety risk. Many were bemused by the situation that she found herself in, but that didn't stop people from cracking jokes — and pointing out that his behavior might not be as strange as she makes it out to be. While this guy might benefit from a hard hat and a little less time with a shovel in his hand, at least he's found something he loves. Ahh how sad for him!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE May 9 19 hours ago, Ron Wagner said: The residential and most business prices are probably as high as ever. The cost of delivering the gas is about as high as the gas itself and they will try to keep it that way. That is my guess. The availability of the low price gas points to the need of trucks to switch to it rather than diesel as time goes on. The cost of delivery is negative? Pay attention to what they are writing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,441 TN May 14 — Negative Electric Prices — US West power prices turn negative on low demand, ample renewableshttps://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-west-power-prices-turn-negative-on-low-demand-ample-renewables/ar-BB1kYPXb EXCERPTSApril 2 (Reuters) – Mild weather and ample hydro and other renewable power supplies in the U.S. West cut spot electricity prices in California and Arizona to record lows below zero in recent days. Negative prices mean there is too much power in a region due to low demand and/or transmission constraints, and are used to encourage power generators to shut plants or pay to keep them running. In addition to negative power prices, low demand and pipeline maintenance have trapped natural gas in the Permian basin, the nation’s biggest oil producing shale formation, causing next-day prices at the Waha hub in West Texas to average below zero a couple of times in recent weeks. Although Waha gas prices have traded at negative levels many times in recent weeks, prices at the hub have averaged above zero most days. In the electric market, next-day power fell to a record low of negative $4.25 per megawatt hour (MWh) at South Path 15 (SP-15) in Southern California, according to data from SNL Energy on the LSEG terminal. That compares with the prior SP-15 all-time low of 50 cents per MWh on March 27, averages of $29.81 so far this year, $59.86 in calendar 2023 and a five-year average (2019-2023) of $57.31. In Arizona, power prices at the Palo Verde hub rose to a negative $4.50 per MWh on April 1 from a record low of negative $12 on March 28. That compares with prior all-time lows at Palo Verde of negative $9 per MWh on March 27 and negative $8 on March 25, averages of $28.70 so far this year, $59.03 in calendar 2023, and a five-year average (2019-2023) of $56.18…. ~~~~ Bloomberg – Friday April 5, 2024High Renewable Output Pushes UK Power Prices to NegativePrices will drop as low as -£19 per megawatt-hour on Saturday (4/6) Grid upgrades and energy storage are key to reduce the issue ~~WWW bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-05/high-renewable-output-pushes-uk-power-prices-to-negative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites