footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 May 16 (edited) Caspian Power Trio Aims to Electrify the European Union English Español عربي Français 中文 日本語 By Eurasianet - May 15, 2024, 12:00 PM CDT Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan signed an MoU to export electricity to the European Union, utilizing wind and solar power. Uzbekistan aims to generate an additional 20 Gigawatts of renewable energy by 2030. The tripartite MoU aligns with the United States' B5+1 initiative to foster Central Asian connectivity and break down regional trade barriers. Right off the front page of oilprice.com THIS brain fart truly takes the cake in Utopia stupidity.... Yea, lets transport Electricity across Russia who is trying to sell the EU NG....Guess who else is not part of this? Duh, Turkemnistan with an absolute crap ton of Natural Gas who has been trying to export NG via Turkey... which you Might have noticed is not working all that well as the Azeri's aren't exactly thrilled and neither is Russia or Iran. Pure Genius "plan". Brilliant... Even if we ignore the gargantuan distance problem. Edited May 16 by footeab@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM May 16 10 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Caspian Power Trio Aims to Electrify the European Union English Español عربي Français 中文 日本語 By Eurasianet - May 15, 2024, 12:00 PM CDT Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan signed an MoU to export electricity to the European Union, utilizing wind and solar power. Uzbekistan aims to generate an additional 20 Gigawatts of renewable energy by 2030. The tripartite MoU aligns with the United States' B5+1 initiative to foster Central Asian connectivity and break down regional trade barriers. Right off the front page of oilprice.com THIS brain fart truly takes the cake in Utopia stupidity.... Yea, lets transport Electricity across Russia who is trying to sell the EU NG.... Brilliant... Even if we ignore the gargantuan distance problem. did you bother to read the article.....the Line will run under the Caspian to Azerbaijan (which abuts Turkey) then they state........to export power via an underwater cable traversing the Black Sea (that is the connector from Azerbaijan to Romania .......The MoU Baku entered into with Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan potentially builds on a 2023 agreement that Azerbaijan concluded with EU states, including Hungary and Romania, to export power via an underwater cable traversing the Black Sea or (figure it out) through Turkey no mention of the line running through Russia at all....Get a pair of glasses is it feasible???? who knows....that is what the article says the 3 countries will investigate...... You know how to conduct a feasibility study???????....you take an idea and you put real costs and numbers to it and find out is it feasible..... stick to your braindead tunnelling plans....Have you sold your ideas to anyone yet?????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 May 16 8 minutes ago, notsonice said: did you bother to read the article.....the Line will run under the Caspian to Azerbaijan (which abuts Turkey) then they state........to export power via an underwater cable traversing the Black Sea (that is the connector from Azerbaijan to Romania .......The MoU Baku entered into with Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan potentially builds on a 2023 agreement that Azerbaijan concluded with EU states, including Hungary and Romania, to export power via an underwater cable traversing the Black Sea or (figure it out) through Turkey no mention of the line running through Russia at all....Get a pair of glasses is it feasible???? who knows....that is what the article says the 3 countries will investigate...... You know how to conduct a feasibility study???????....you take an idea and you put real costs and numbers to it and find out is it feasible..... stick to your braindead tunnelling plans....Have you sold your ideas to anyone yet?????? The above has to be nothing more than a CIA operation trying to break away Central Asian countries from Russia. Did you not read/contemplate?... Oh wait no, no you didn't nor do you know what a map is. Who owns the Caspian sea? Russia/Iran. Azeris/Turkmenistan/Iran/Russia have gobs of NG to sell to the EU They hold all the territory to run lines through. Black sea(what an absurd joke) If wind/solar were ACTUALLY what EU wanted, a MUCH closer with MUCH superior wind/solar is in Morocco, but hey, that would require you to open a wind/solar map... or use your 2 brain cells. If they REALLY want solar... --> Saudi Arabia/Iraq Grow a brain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP May 16 11 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: If wind/solar were ACTUALLY what EU wanted, a MUCH closer with MUCH superior wind/solar is in Morocco Ohh you mean this that i posted some months ago! Morocco-UK Power Project - Xlinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM May 16 (edited) 12 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: The above has to be nothing more than a CIA operation trying to break away Central Asian countries from Russia. Did you not read/contemplate?... Oh wait no, no you didn't nor do you know what a map is. Who owns the Caspian sea? Russia/Iran. Azeris/Turkmenistan/Iran/Russia have gobs of NG to sell to the EU They hold all the territory to run lines through. Black sea(what an absurd joke) If wind/solar were ACTUALLY what EU wanted, a MUCH closer with MUCH superior wind/solar is in Morocco, but hey, that would require you to open a wind/solar map... or use your 2 brain cells. If they REALLY want solar... --> Saudi Arabia/Iraq Grow a brain The above has to be nothing more than a CIA operation????? this is a reason why you should stop using drugs. You get high and then you start babbling BS Who owns the Caspian sea? Russia/Iran?????? you really are brain dead....did you even bother to look at a map??? of course not, as idiots, such as yourself just make up shit and post it..... here is the map .....you really are a clueless idiot that posts BS a MUCH closer with MUCH superior wind/solar is in Morocco????? has nothing to do with Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan............now if you had a single brain cell you would understand this PS how is your grand Tunnel scheme working out???? ha ha ha ....... now gander at the map, idiot , and tell us all who has rights in the Caspian sea........ Edited May 16 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 467 May 17 Oh, what a plan... It is probably called " keep pollution and unsightly wind and solar facilities at vast empty space of those countries and pay for readymade electricity", or no? 'o' '-' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 May 17 11 hours ago, notsonice said: The above has to be nothing more than a CIA operation????? this is a reason why you should stop using drugs. You get high and then you start babbling BS Who owns the Caspian sea? Russia/Iran?????? you really are brain dead....did you even bother to look at a map??? of course not, as idiots, such as yourself just make up shit and post it..... here is the map .....you really are a clueless idiot that posts BS a MUCH closer with MUCH superior wind/solar is in Morocco????? has nothing to do with Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan............now if you had a single brain cell you would understand this PS how is your grand Tunnel scheme working out???? ha ha ha ....... now gander at the map, idiot , and tell us all who has rights in the Caspian sea........ I know you take drugs regularly, you just proved it once again. Has Russia or Iran allowed Turkmenistan run a NG pipeline? HELL NO! Why? THEY OWN the SEA via a thing called NAVAL POWER. People like you can PRETEND lines drawn on water are real; in reality--> they are NOT. And one truly has to be STUPID to propose wind/solar from Kazakhstan going across Russian/Iranian held territory. instead of Egypt/Saudi Arabia/Oman let alone Morocco which goes through ZERO hostile territory. The only explanation is a CIA operation. Not even idealogues of the Green utopian farts persuasion are that stupid. Tunnels are alive and well in the EU/Japan. They keep building and proposing every increasing numbers of them, and its not because they are dumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 May 17 19 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Ohh you mean this that i posted some months ago! Morocco-UK Power Project - Xlinks Yes, you did, and many others have over many many years for Solar/Wind farms in Morocco. At least with the Morocco line all you have to worry about is a SINGLE long term ~STABLE country or in the EU's case one country. As if Turkey, Russia, etc etc wouldn't snip the line from Kazahkstan if there is a big political upheaval. Historically, if one takes off the blinders, neither Turkey nor Russia are ANYONE's friends in Central/Western Europe. Does anyone with half a brain think said line wouldn't be snipped instantly? One may as well say they are going to run a line to Mongolia or Tibet. What a farcical joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,006 GE May 17 7 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: People like you can PRETEND lines drawn on water are real; in reality--> they are NOT. You were the one suggesting to look at a map. I quote: "Did you not read/contemplate?... Oh wait no, no you didn't nor do you know what a map is. Who owns the Caspian sea?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 May 17 16 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: You were the one suggesting to look at a map. I quote: "Did you not read/contemplate?... Oh wait no, no you didn't nor do you know what a map is. Who owns the Caspian sea?" So, your "argument" resolves into you are barking ignorant of how the real world works... Brilliant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,006 GE May 17 4 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: So, your "argument" resolves into you are barking ignorant of how the real world works... Brilliant I have no argument on this topic. All I did is point out that the map disagrees with you, and you suggested looking at a map. Maybe do not speak of maps if the pretend lines do not matter to you. With your logic why acknowledge borders at all if you have a bigger military? I quote: "People like you can PRETEND lines drawn on water are real; in reality--> they are NOT." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM May 17 (edited) 18 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: I know you take drugs regularly, you just proved it once again. Has Russia or Iran allowed Turkmenistan run a NG pipeline? HELL NO! Why? THEY OWN the SEA via a thing called NAVAL POWER. People like you can PRETEND lines drawn on water are real; in reality--> they are NOT. And one truly has to be STUPID to propose wind/solar from Kazakhstan going across Russian/Iranian held territory. instead of Egypt/Saudi Arabia/Oman let alone Morocco which goes through ZERO hostile territory. The only explanation is a CIA operation. Not even idealogues of the Green utopian farts persuasion are that stupid. Tunnels are alive and well in the EU/Japan. They keep building and proposing every increasing numbers of them, and its not because they are dumb. Lol ....Drugs???? never used them but you obviously are under the influence of something that is frying your pea brain THEY OWN the SEA via a thing called NAVAL POWER?????? what are you babbling about now........Just because someone has naval power does not mean they own the sea especially in territorial waters of a nation and its rights as is the case in the Caspian... a treaty was signed in 2018 just a basic for the basis of the treaty the treaty....well it was always a dispute is the sea considered to be of Ocean type status or Lake........... when it comes to oceans An “exclusive economic zone,” or “EEZ” is an area of the ocean, generally extending 200 nautical miles (230 miles) beyond a nation's territorial sea, within which a coastal nation has jurisdiction over both living and nonliving resources. it was settled in a treaty signed in 2018 (see below) from the treaty......It establishes a formula for dividing up its resources and prevents other powers from setting up a military presence there. the treaty did not give Russia or Iran owner ship of the entire Caspian Sea ...far from it And one truly has to be STUPID to propose wind/solar from Kazakhstan going across Russian/Iranian???? no one is proposing this You were babbling about maps so I posted the one for the Capsian Sea that shows the boundaries...that were settled in a treaty in 2018..........pretty clear any undersea power cable will avoid Russian and Iranian exclusive economic zones People like you can PRETEND lines drawn on water are real; in reality--> they are NOT. ????? actually the boundaries on the map are recognized by both Russian and Iran...Real world , Lines on a map........used everywhere every day to determine who has rights or ownership And you are an Engineer??????? You got a 4 year degree in Engineering???????? I doubt it Caspian Sea: Five countries sign deal to end dispute BBC https://www.bbc.com › news › world-45162282 Aug 12, 2018 — Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan - all bordering the Caspian Sea - have agreed in principle on how to divide it up. It is a landmark deal that has been more than two decades in the making. Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan - all bordering the Caspian Sea - have agreed in principle on how to divide it up. Their leaders signed the Convention on the Legal Status of the Caspian Sea in the Kazakh city of Aktau on Sunday. It establishes a formula for dividing up its resources and prevents other powers from setting up a military presence there. It is an important step in the easing of regional tensions, but the deal over the world's largest inland body of water matters for several reasons. So please before you post BS do a little research and get some help as your brain is fried Edited May 17 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites