William Edwards + 708 November 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Oilfuturestrader said: It's very bearish to me.. The selling is actually accelerating Think: stops are being hit and how many contracts are being converted to market orders? Then ask "How kind will the buyers be to a panicky seller?" 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oilfuturestrader + 10 CR November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, William Edwards said: Think: stops are being hit and how many contracts are being converted to market orders? Then ask "How kind will the buyers be to a panicky seller?" Yeah man Fear is wild.. Accounts being blown up left and right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fOILed + 9 iM November 13, 2018 like mine😂  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A/Plague + 50 sU November 13, 2018 (edited) Â Â Edited December 14, 2018 by A/Plague 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATK + 355 AK November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, A/Plague said: closed the shorts ... look at the top 😎 Awesome trade! Congrats! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oilfuturestrader + 10 CR November 13, 2018 (edited) ATK I think OPEC will do an emergency CUT for sure now!! 80% chance.. All those countries are crying right now... Edited November 13, 2018 by Oilfuturestrader Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATK + 355 AK November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Oilfuturestrader said: ATK I think OPEC will do an emergency CUT for sure now!! 80% chance.. All those countries are crying right now... They will, but December is still a little while a way, plenty of time for bears to do more damage lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oilfuturestrader + 10 CR November 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, ATK said: They will, but December is still a little while a way, plenty of time for bears to do more damage lol Indeed my friend.. That's why cramer 40 target is not so far fetched Edited November 13, 2018 by Oilfuturestrader Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebel44 + 7 JJ November 13, 2018 (edited) I am glad I sold my long position at $74 (WTI) Because of risks (in case something happens with supply, a price can jump a lot) I don't like shorting oil, so I will wait for signs that we have reached the bottom before I open any new position. Edited November 13, 2018 by Rebel44 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oilfuturestrader + 10 CR November 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rebel44 said: I am glad I sold my long position at $74 (WTI) Because of risks (in case something happens with supply price can jump a lot) I don't like shorting oil, so I will wait for signs that we have reached the bottom before I open any new position. Why did u get out? Tell me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebel44 + 7 JJ November 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Oilfuturestrader said: Why did u get out? Tell me? Stockpiles were building up too quickly + there were some indications that Iranian oil exports won't be affected as much as earlier predicted. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebel44 + 7 JJ November 13, 2018 (edited) WTI at $55.69 OPEC will IMO need to cut their production a lot more than discussed 1M bbl/day to restore some balance and raise prices to a range that would be OK for their budgets without hurting the economy (around $65 IMO). I think OPEC will either need to announce cutting more than 1.5M bbl/day, or the US will have to significantly reduce waivers for export of Iranian crude before we see any significant bounce up. Edited November 13, 2018 by Rebel44 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATK + 355 AK November 13, 2018 People might be capitulating right now! Grabbing my popcorn to watch this lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATK + 355 AK November 13, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/C485955B-FBE7-4A8F-8E6C-698DC8E8E66E US oil industry setting themselves up for another bust cycle, EIA forcasting US production set to increase by another 113,000 bpd in december 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Edwards + 708 November 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, ATK said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/C485955B-FBE7-4A8F-8E6C-698DC8E8E66E US oil industry setting themselves up for another bust cycle, EIA forcasting US production set to increase by another 113,000 bpd in december And it will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMR + 6 MA November 13, 2018 Iranian sanctions hype started when WTI was on $45 now there is no sanctions impact and the price reversal is in progress.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DVP + 1 DP November 14, 2018 right now WTI is at the levels that I anticipated it would bottom out 2-3 weeks ago.  But just before it reached this level today, I canceled my buy order, from 2-3 weeks ago. Ohh and Don't listen to me, many people here seem to be more knowledgeable and experienced then me. Some-one mentioned Jim Craimer, in my experience doing opposite of what he suggest will make me money. My expectation is that WTI will stay around 55 this week and show reversal, while Blue Chip index will drop a little bit more. If I am wrong and there is a bigger selloff then I am expecting, then it's bad.  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonathan yoakum + 13 November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, DVP said: right now WTI is at the levels that I anticipated it would bottom out 2-3 weeks ago.  But just before it reached this level today, I canceled my buy order, from 2-3 weeks ago. Ohh and Don't listen to me, many people here seem to be more knowledgeable and experienced then me. Some-one mentioned Jim Craimer, in my experience doing opposite of what he suggest will make me money. My expectation is that WTI will stay around 55 this week and show reversal, while Blue Chip index will drop a little bit more. If I am wrong and there is a bigger selloff then I am expecting, then it's bad.  Cramer is such a profiteerig fading douchebag calling $40 oil. I think he should join Trumps staff and they can try to tweet oil down together. FWIW imho trading oil is a horrible idea going into these next reports. Also not sure why anyone would bother with December contract expiry soon and contango in drivers seat. You also have options expiration and a big holiday coming. Just so many reasons to not waste money on stop outs and let the market show its hand. Crude either ranges into consolidation or things could become penultimate whore face before the current drama is over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 November 14, 2018 Some longer term perspective, 1861 to 2017: 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oilfutures + 39 OF November 14, 2018 8 hours ago, jonathan yoakum said: Cramer is such a profiteerig fading douchebag calling $40 oil. I think he should join Trumps staff and they can try to tweet oil down together. FWIW imho trading oil is a horrible idea going into these next reports. Also not sure why anyone would bother with December contract expiry soon and contango in drivers seat. You also have options expiration and a big holiday coming. Just so many reasons to not waste money on stop outs and let the market show its hand. Crude either ranges into consolidation or things could become penultimate whore face before the current drama is over. That is important to point out contango is back if you are playing the ETFs e.g. USO. Unlike the past year, futures will perform better than the ETFs while ETFs will take a hit between now until it gets out of contango. When CL was trading at this price a few years ago, USO was worth nearly double where it is today. Granted, we had an extended period of contago - it can see how much contango can impact price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATK + 355 AK November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, oilfutures said: That is important to point out contango is back if you are playing the ETFs e.g. USO. Unlike the past year, futures will perform better than the ETFs while ETFs will take a hit between now until it gets out of contango. When CL was trading at this price a few years ago, USO was worth nearly double where it is today. Granted, we had an extended period of contago - it can see how much contango can impact price. This is why I suggested against buying later date options for things like USO, you are ultimately going to pay a higher premium only for it to decrease even more in value as your expiration date approaches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 November 14, 2018 20 hours ago, fOILed said: like mine😂  Sorry for your loss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oilfuturestrader + 10 CR November 14, 2018 Looks like some covering started here.. The big question is? A PAUSE or A BOUNCE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATK + 355 AK November 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, Oilfuturestrader said: Looks like some covering started here.. The big question is? A PAUSE or A BOUNCE I'd say just a bounce, analyst expecting an 8th week of crude builds 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, ATK said: I'd say just a bounce, analyst expecting an 8th week of crude builds agreed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites