Brian W + 78 BW December 3, 2018 President Trump announced In a late-night Twitter on Sunday that China had agreed to "reduce and remove" tariffs on U.S.-produced vehicles imported into the country, following a meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping during which the two powers agreed to a trade truce. It was unclear what China had agreed to do, because the issue of auto industry had not appeared in the public disclosures from either the U.S. or Chinese governments issued after the two sides hammered out their temporary trade-war truce. The move, if realized, would bolster U.S. carmakers who were hit hard when China ramped up levies on U.S.-made cars in July as part of a broad package of retaliatory tariffs amid the sprawling trade war between Washington and Beijing. Beijing raised tariffs on U.S. auto imports to 40 percent in July, forcing many carmakers to hike prices in a major hit to the roughly $10 billion worth of passenger vehicles the United States sent to China last year. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/business/china-trump-cars-tariffs.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 3, 2018 Well, this tweet doesn't mean anything until we have an official confirmation of this agreement from both sides. We actually still don't know anything about conditions of this agreement. I guess we could expect Chinese to reduce tariffs that are only in place as retaliation for tariffs imposed on them by the US if the US removes those tariffs. Without any time frame on when this tariffs reduction was going to happen or what the reduction of tariffs will even be, makes me a little bit skeptical. But I sure we'll hear very soon more about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackTortoise + 103 CM December 3, 2018 If true, this would be a win for the US. Something that seemed like a bad idea a few months ago, now is starting to actually workout. China is starting to back down. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK December 3, 2018 China already said that tariffs on US cars would be 15%if not the trade dispute, calling for a negotiated solution. According to Bloomberg, Chinese officials discussed the possibility of lowering tariffs on U.S. car imports before Xi met Trump in Argentina, but the magnitude and timing of such a reduction were unclear. And they still are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 3, 2018 Perhaps it would be more informative to wait until the Chinese Commerce Ministry has its weekly news conference and see if Trump's tweet is confirmed. Anyway, China tariffs going away would be a perfect timing for Tesla. Next quarter this company is going to sell the first Model 3 units in China. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulG + 21 pg December 4, 2018 20 hours ago, Adam Varga said: Perhaps it would be more informative to wait until the Chinese Commerce Ministry has its weekly news conference and see if Trump's tweet is confirmed. Anyway, China tariffs going away would be a perfect timing for Tesla. Next quarter this company is going to sell the first Model 3 units in China. or maybe the didn't http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senior-aides-push-back-on-trumps-claim-that-china-agreed-to-cut-auto-tariffs/ar-BBQrFaM?ocid=ientp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck Keehne Jr + 2 December 4, 2018 The only way Mr Trump would be a instant success is getting China to open the flood gates for Soy, ending the rotting stock piles and a renewed farm vote. He has already lost the Auto Industry. IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSS + 1 GS December 4, 2018 Much of the trade imbalance between the U.S. and China was born from Corporate America ,..IE; Walmart and the transition to a service economy. The imbalance has greatened to the point of having a need for the entire trade system with China to be overhauled. The Trump Administration does not have the economic philosophical acumen to rebalance ,because the same type of situation in our own country just keeps getting worse. Finance is 30% + of GDP and the only reason it shines is because of a gross negligence by our Treasury and Federal Reserve pertaining to money creation by private means. You cannot fix or obtain a good trade relationship with anyone until you first repair the abomination of a money system that is centered in the U.S. and Western Europe. Our own credit oriented GDP (growth) is not a good partner with a true manufacturing or a productive society that has the means to negotiate a true long term trade deal with China . Trump , Mnuchin ,Ross and Kudlow have zero experience and a one sided Corporate loyalty that every country on Earth can see before negotiations begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulG + 21 pg December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuck Keehne Jr said: The only way Mr Trump would be a instant success is getting China to open the flood gates for Soy, ending the rotting stock piles and a renewed farm vote. He has already lost the Auto Industry. IMO. The farmers only have to wait another 90 days to see what happends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kit Moore + 50 KM December 4, 2018 It seems there is no confirmation from China on what has been agreed - but I do find it unlikely that they would drop the entire 40% tariff as Trump has prematurely gloated about. Also, I cannot see the underpinning issue being resolved in 90 days - that of intellectual property rights being continually stolen. Tump's got some hardliners on this project and I can't see them being happy for reduced tariffs and in return, them sweeping under the carpet the main gripe that kicked all this tariff-setting off. Sorry, not the best grammar there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specyoulator + 9 YT December 5, 2018 (edited) 1. ¿Can someone addicted to hacking/stealing, really stop doing such things (hacking/stealing)? 2. ¿How can the world verify that China will stop stealing/hacking through HUAWEI, ZTE, LENOVO, and the many products it sells that are manufactured in China? Edited December 5, 2018 by Specyoulator wanted it to be more clear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specyoulator + 9 YT December 5, 2018 Anyways...let's suppose China says: OK guys, i'll stop stealing. ¿What do you think Trump will ask for as a prove that they are really serious about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Specyoulator + 9 YT December 5, 2018 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/what-s-intellectual-property-and-does-china-steal-it-quicktake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites