Brian W + 78 BW December 5, 2018 Volkswagen AG expects the era of the combustion car to fade away after it rolls out its next-generation gasoline and diesel cars beginning in 2026. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-04/vw-says-the-next-generation-of-combustion-cars-will-be-its-last Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK December 5, 2018 These are the markets that are still being sold last generations products anyway. Lets say the final generation of ICE cars that VW make end their developmental lifecycle in developed nations in 2030, there are a number of countries that would have just started to be sold that generation of vehicles. Its a great way for car companies to essentially sell cars with zero development costs as the original R&D cost was already covered by sales in the initial markets. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 5, 2018 So you want to say that if car company stop developing ICE vehicles, it doesn't mean they will stop selling them in less regulated markets. But will those markets be relevant and able to justify the costs for developing a new generation of combustion engines? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DA? + 301 jh December 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Vlad Kovalenko said: These are the markets that are still being sold last generations products anyway. Lets say the final generation of ICE cars that VW make end their developmental lifecycle in developed nations in 2030, there are a number of countries that would have just started to be sold that generation of vehicles. Its a great way for car companies to essentially sell cars with zero development costs as the original R&D cost was already covered by sales in the initial markets. Why would other countries still want to buy ICE post 2030? The cost of a EV will be below the up front cost of an ICE long before then. Even with R&D taken out of the picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK December 6, 2018 Nobody really knows how the market will be looking 10 years from now. Some predictions indicate that BEVs will be cheaper to manufacture than comparable ICE vehicle by 2025 or so. But on the other side, I assume there will be a limited number of sales on these cars mostly in regions that don't have a sufficient charging network. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DA? + 301 jh December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Vlad Kovalenko said: Nobody really knows how the market will be looking 10 years from now. Some predictions indicate that BEVs will be cheaper to manufacture than comparable ICE vehicle by 2025 or so. But on the other side, I assume there will be a limited number of sales on these cars mostly in regions that don't have a sufficient charging network. For an EV every socket is like a gas station to an ICE. But to quickly recharge the networks are rapidly increasing, it really doesn't take long to build up this infrastructure and it's something that can be done as the amount of EV's increase. I'll moving soon to an area without to many EV's but theres enough chargers about it's not a problem for me even though it's really out in the bush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ziegler + 121 RZ December 6, 2018 17 hours ago, Brian W said: Volkswagen AG expects the era of the combustion car to fade away after it rolls out its next-generation gasoline and diesel cars beginning in 2026. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-04/vw-says-the-next-generation-of-combustion-cars-will-be-its-last They should have stopped some 10 years ago, cars are getting worse, recently..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites