Marina Schwarz + 1,576 December 12, 2018 Houston mayor takes heat from activists for backing LNG project LNG is evil and it's time we all accepted it. 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 December 12, 2018 So, to recap the Green perspective... Oil is evil. Natural Gas is evil. LNG is evil. And CO2 will kill us all. 1 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaycee + 348 jc December 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said: So, to recap the Green perspective... Oil is evil. Natural Gas is evil. LNG is evil. And CO2 will kill us all. meat is evil https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25795-going-vegetarian-halves-co2-emissions-from-your-food/ 1 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, jaycee said: meat is evil https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25795-going-vegetarian-halves-co2-emissions-from-your-food/ My carbon footprint is about to land on someone's behind. 1 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marina Schwarz + 1,576 December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Rodent said: My carbon footprint is about to land on someone's behind. You can add mine to that, too. I'm roasting a whole duck for dinner and that's that. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 December 12, 2018 12 hours ago, jaycee said: meat is evil 10 hours ago, Rodent said: My carbon footprint is about to land on someone's behind. 9 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said: You can add mine to that, too. I'm roasting a whole duck for dinner and that's that. I grew up on a dairy farm. Baby cows were pets until they were a year old. Then they got pregnant from the hired bull. Then 9 months later they gave birth and we could milk them. When they were too old to get pregnant, and were thus not providing much milk, they got slaughtered. Some of them we slaughtered ourselves and then we ate them. Similar with our "pet" rabbits and geese and chickens. Fun to play with when they are young, and yummy to eat when they are old. Pragmatism .... nothing beats it. Truly, growing up on a family farm turned me into the evil incarnate that I am today... < bwahahahahahaha > 1 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marina Schwarz + 1,576 December 12, 2018 I just knew you ate animals, @Tom Kirkman! 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 December 12, 2018 14 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said: I just knew you ate animals, @Tom Kirkman! @Marina Schwarz @Rodent I kill animals and eat them. Pictured below is the endangered goateed jungle meat eater pro-oil carnivore. Who actually adores the environment, but gets frustrated with climate Nazis. 4 1 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ December 12, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said: You can add mine to that, too. I'm roasting a whole duck for dinner and that's that. duck have a much lower carbon footprint than beef. Edited December 12, 2018 by Rasmus Jorgensen 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: If you look closely inside the above list, there is this interesting comment that "130 times more animal waste than human waste is produced in the US." And that may well be true. Cow manure, specifically, is just huge in volume. A dairy cow produces some 130 lbs of manure every day. The manure produced in the dairy farms of Northern Vermont, a very small rural State, surpasses all the human waste produced in the City of Montreal, a city of 2-1/2 million people. Amazing stuff. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 December 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: If you look closely inside the above list, there is this interesting comment that "130 times more animal waste than human waste is produced in the US." And that may well be true. Cow manure, specifically, is just huge in volume. A dairy cow produces some 130 lbs of manure every day. The manure produced in the dairy farms of Northern Vermont, a very small rural State, surpasses all the human waste produced in the City of Montreal, a city of 2-1/2 million people. Amazing stuff. And that manure can be turned into biogas and used as fuel. The cows are heroines. God bless the cows. We have plenty of them near here in Chino, California and some very big feedlots. I am getting ready to eat another well done burger! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ziegler + 121 RZ December 13, 2018 13 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: duck have a much lower carbon footprint than beef. There is a great way to combine the two! 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoMack + 549 JM February 9, 2019 Uh oh, once they ban cows are elephants next? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 February 10, 2019 7 hours ago, JoMack said: Uh oh, once they ban cows are elephants next? Why would elephants be banned next? I can't seem to locate the "elephant" section of the butcher shop at the local grocery stores. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoMack + 549 JM February 10, 2019 Methane Tom, methane - gotta go so start with the giant poop and work their way down to chickens - sarcasm 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 February 11, 2019 6 hours ago, JoMack said: Methane Tom, methane - gotta go so start with the giant poop and work their way down to chickens - sarcasm Ah, thanks for the explanation. Somebody better re-think that whole "Save the Whales" campaign then... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 February 11, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 4:05 AM, Jan van Eck said: And that may well be true. Cow manure, specifically, is just huge in volume. A dairy cow produces some 130 lbs of manure every day. The manure produced in the dairy farms of Northern Vermont, a very small rural State, surpasses all the human waste produced in the City of Montreal, a city of 2-1/2 million people. Amazing stuff. we remember, you have vested interest in this ... stuff:) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 February 11, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 12:27 PM, ronwagn said: And that manure can be turned into biogas and used as fuel. The cows are heroines. God bless the cows. We have plenty of them near here in Chino, California and some very big feedlots. I am getting ready to eat another well done burger! you'd wish they stop at manure... no Sir, plug'm cows directly to the pipe.. https://inhabitat.com/ecouterre/argentinas-methane-backpacks-turn-cow-farts-into-green-energy/ if that's not animal cruelty - I;m not sure what is 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 11, 2019 (edited) Looks like animal abuse to me. That poor cow looks mortified! During WW1 some cars were equipped with bags of natural gas due to rationing of gasoline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZcK2DuDX5M Edited February 11, 2019 by ronwagn added reference 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 February 11, 2019 14 hours ago, DanilKa said: you'd wish they stop at manure... no Sir, plug'm cows directly to the pipe.. https://inhabitat.com/ecouterre/argentinas-methane-backpacks-turn-cow-farts-into-green-energy/ if that's not animal cruelty - I;m not sure what is I'd like to strap one of those to my MIL's back. 😏 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 February 11, 2019 16 hours ago, ronwagn said: Looks like animal abuse to me. That poor cow looks mortified! During WW1 some cars were equipped with bags of natural gas due to rationing of gasoline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZcK2DuDX5M Cool - didn't know about it. "The bag contains equivalent of 1-2/3 Gal of Petrol" - one have to appreciate energy density of that nasty stinky stuff! Science museum in Houston have oil section - kids have to crank up handle as hard as they can for a minute or so - 'congrats, you've produced energy equivalent of 1.xxx gram of gasoline!" 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illurion + 894 IG February 13, 2019 On 12/12/2018 at 6:55 AM, Rodent said: My carbon footprint is about to land on someone's behind. Can i help ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illurion + 894 IG February 13, 2019 On 12/12/2018 at 9:06 AM, Tom Kirkman said: @Marina Schwarz @Rodent I kill animals and eat them. Pictured below is the endangered goateed jungle meat eater pro-oil carnivore. Who actually adores the environment, but gets frustrated with climate Nazis. "DOWN WITH CLIMATE NAZI'S ".........!!!!!!!!! Lets get rid of them by feeding them to the hogs........ 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illurion + 894 IG February 13, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 9:57 PM, Tom Kirkman said: Why would elephants be banned next? I can't seem to locate the "elephant" section of the butcher shop at the local grocery stores. I think because they poop alot... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites