Stephen + 67 SM January 11, 2018 President Donald Trump said that he actually cares about the environment and that his only misgivings about the Paris Agreement are that it treated the US unfairly. He admitted that Washington could rejoin the climate accord under fairer terms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT January 11, 2018 Well, does that mean the UK will rejoin the EU too then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA January 11, 2018 He's trolling all you people. The Paris agreement is more or less a bucketlist that each country delivers on its own and it doesn't oblige it to actually make anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen + 67 SM January 11, 2018 It seems to me that he has absolutely no political opinion whatsoever; He's easily swayed by anyone making any sort of argument. Just yesterday global warming was a hoax made up by the Chinese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT January 11, 2018 All this "bad deal" talk, yet never once have I heard him articulate any specific opposition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen + 67 SM January 11, 2018 Just now, Meanwhile said: All this "bad deal" talk, yet never once have I heard him articulate any specific opposition. and how is this agreement that literally every country in the world signed onto unfair only to the US Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 January 11, 2018 A negotiator through and through. Classic. Trump states early on his intention to pull out of the deal. Leaks in September that maybe US could reverse its position. A few months later, outright says US may reconsider if terms were more favorable to US. If you want five, ask for ten. Makes sense to me. This is Trump's way of getting what he wants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT January 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Rodent said: A negotiator through and through. Classic. Trump states early on his intention to pull out of the deal. Leaks in September that maybe US could reverse its position. A few months later, outright says US may reconsider if terms were more favorable to US. If you want five, ask for ten. Makes sense to me. This is Trump's way of getting what he wants. three more years of negotiating then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT January 11, 2018 Return to the Paris Agreement. No Wall. Staying with the International Iran Deal. Administration now needs to reaffirm support for NAFTA and try to get the US into the TPP and we are all set. Year wasted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meanwhile + 49 PT January 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rodent said: A negotiator through and through. Classic. Trump states early on his intention to pull out of the deal. Leaks in September that maybe US could reverse its position. A few months later, outright says US may reconsider if terms were more favorable to US. If you want five, ask for ten. Makes sense to me. This is Trump's way of getting what he wants. if he is so good at negotiating how come he couldn't get @DonaldTrump but settled for @realDonaldTrump. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 January 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Meanwhile said: if he is so good at negotiating how come he couldn't get @DonaldTrump but settled for @realDonaldTrump. Good point. But he probably owns both... tricksy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP January 12, 2018 The US is second in carbon emissions after China, which has a much larger population than US by about a billion people. Paris Agreement is essential, not just for the US, but for the rest of the world too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP January 12, 2018 We all live in the same world. We need to stand together to take care of it. One world, one people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP January 12, 2018 As I know, and as it's written - Earliest effective withdrawal by the U S can't be before 11/4/20.Until the withdrawal takes effect, the U S may be obligated to maintain its commitments under the Agreement, such as to continue reporting its emissions to the United Nations - So, by the fact US is know part of PA... Sometimes is hard to understand what president wants to say Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP January 12, 2018 Simplify, the US are not out of the Paris Climate Accord. Any formal withdrawal couldn't happen until 2020. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD January 12, 2018 Earth will likely warm way beyond the crucial tipping point that the Paris agreement was meant to avoid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP January 12, 2018 Very clear. It means we must use some unconventional ways to solve our problems. A combined efforts by many people. Especially those in under developed countries. Pay no attention to the deniers because it can be done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP January 12, 2018 The climate change comes from economic activities! The measures ignoring the economy are one hand omissions! A genuine green economic principle is effective! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD January 12, 2018 Each country if want to do that, can have a good balance between business and being environmentally responsible, strict regulations that work. Hurts businesses that want to pollute. PA is on that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP January 12, 2018 Agreed. The right economic moves and right rules can make step forward to our future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP January 12, 2018 My biggest fear about this. Will PA make any changes to the environment? How to stopping China - the worst air pollutant on the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP January 12, 2018 The thing about climate change is that people don't take it seriously. Climate change is real and the worse it gets the higher the price to pay to get it better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Missy + 43 MM January 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Petar said: The US is second in carbon emissions after China, which has a much larger population than US by about a billion people. Paris Agreement is essential, not just for the US, but for the rest of the world too. Maybe US is second, but a VERY distant second. Per capita, Saudi Arabia is a bigger carbon emitter than the US and China Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Missy + 43 MM January 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Pavel said: The thing about climate change is that people don't take it seriously. Climate change is real and the worse it gets the higher the price to pay to get it better. It's not that people don't take it seriously. It's that people are largely idealistic. Everyone wants everyone else to make the hard sacrifices. Let's blame it on governments and Big Oil, instead of on the everyday users and enjoyers of such carbon emitting activities. The masses are not going to suck up higher taxes to subsidize green energy more than we already do. We're not going to shower less, stop buying bottled water, or ride bicycles to work. Most people are not going to pay double for a hybrid vehicle. We're not going to downsize our homes so we have less to heat. We're not going to move into the city from our suburban homes to save the commute, unless we're trying to save their own time rather than the earth. That we need to shift toward a greener path is certain. But that doesn't happen just because you signed some piece of paper. The people have to be on board. But we're all too selfish to do what it will really take. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites