BlackTortoise + 103 CM April 4, 2019 Innolith, an energy technology start-up based in Switzerland, claims to have made the world’s first rechargeable battery capable of powering an EV for more than 600 miles on a single charge. The firm announced that its high-density, lithium-ion batteries would be safer and cheaper than existing EV batteries, while also allowing drivers to travel further between charges. At a density of 1,000 watt-hours per kilogram, Innolith’s battery would far exceed the capabilities of the Panasonic-made batteries used in the Tesla Model 3, which are an estimated 250Wh/kg. Currently, certain Tesla models can achieve a range of up to 330 miles per charge. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian W + 78 BW April 4, 2019 Do we really need more range? 300 miles is already comparable to an ICE car. We just need faster charging and more chargers. Since they are working to increase the energy density, maybe they should consider making lighter battery pack, not just longer range ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV April 4, 2019 Cheap talk. I don't like articles with battery promises. When they bring these batteries to the market, I'll be interested. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK April 4, 2019 Tesla is claiming 620 miles for the Tesla Roadster. https://www.tesla.com/roadster 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian W + 78 BW April 4, 2019 (edited) Power density and safety are two holy grals of battery development. But improvement of one parameter usually lead to deterioration of another. If this news is true, we have to see what will happen with the price, discharge characteristics, charging time, durability, ... Edited April 4, 2019 by Brian W 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Go Lucky + 25 April 4, 2019 (edited) 600 miles AND IF it can be recharged in 15 minutes or less then I am an absolute EV convert Quote Do we really need more range? 300 miles is already comparable to an ICE car Absolutely - as an Interstate highway traveler I'm not going to complain about additional range Don't know what kind of ICE you may have but I can get 434+ mile range from my 2016 Escape on highway at 600 mile range I can escape my Escape 😎 Edited April 4, 2019 by Happy Go Lucky word 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Brian W said: Do we really need more range? 300 miles is already comparable to an ICE car. We just need faster charging and more chargers. Since they are working to increase the energy density, maybe they should consider making lighter battery pack, not just longer range ones. When I'm driving across state I can refill in ten minutes and keep going. With an EV it's an overnight stay to charge. EV's are great for in town purposes and you're not having to book a hotel room while you wait for a recharge. 600 miles, if real, solves a lot of that. Of course now you have to worry about whether the hotel allows you to top up your batteries on their nickel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dharharr 0 DH April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Brian W said: Do we really need more range? 300 miles is already comparable to an ICE car. We just need faster charging and more chargers. Since they are working to increase the energy density, maybe they should consider making lighter battery pack, not just longer range ones. What an absolutely ignorant question! I'd be happy if I never had to recharge or fill my car again. I'm sure folks were asking the same question about internet speeds just a few years ago, gosh do we really need 10Mbps? Higher energy density (fuels or batteries or whatever) that are readily available and mobile could solve numerous challenges or limitations. Yes, we need more range! With a dense electrical storage we could have electric 747s in the near future. But there are even more possibilities I'm sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 April 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Happy Go Lucky said: 600 miles AND IF it can be recharged in 15 minutes or less then I am an absolute EV convert Absolutely - as an Interstate highway traveler I'm not going to complain about additional range Don't know what kind of ICE you may have but I can get 434+ mile range from my 2016 Escape on highway at 600 mile range I can escape my Escape 😎 I could go from NYC to San Diego in my Nissan NV3500. The only problem is I would have to fill up the van with gas cans and maybe add my cargo trailer. I would probably start out with 10 mpg and end up with the usual 15 mpg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG April 5, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ward Smith said: When I'm driving across state I can refill in ten minutes and keep going. With an EV it's an overnight stay to charge. EV's are great for in town purposes and you're not having to book a hotel room while you wait for a recharge. 600 miles, if real, solves a lot of that. Of course now you have to worry about whether the hotel allows you to top up your batteries on their nickel. There was a local Sheraton that provided a private lounge for "Business executives" complete with newspapers, a coffee bar, oranges to peel and eat, that sort of thing. It did not cost the hotel much if anything, but you paid an extra $30 on your tab for access. That, to read a newspaper. OK, so using that business model, you can expect your hotel to place a hotel sur-charge on that electricity, probably double what they paid for it. Pure profit. Edited April 5, 2019 by Jan van Eck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Go Lucky + 25 April 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said: There was a local Sheraton that provided a private lounge for "Business executives" complete with newspapers, a coffee bar, oranges to peel and eat, that sort of thing. It did not cost the hotel much if anything, but you paid an extra $30 on your tab for access. That, to read a newspaper. OK, so using that business model, you can expect your hotel to place a hotel sur-charge on that electricity, probably double what they paid for it. Pure profit. I drive to Las Vegas on avg. ~every 2 yr for a ~3600 mi. r/t - depending on gas prices the trip is $240-$300 - if the charging infrastructure was in place and cost was $30-35 or under doing the EV thing would still result in dollar savings to give to the needy casinos 😎 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites