Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 21, 2019 Climate Panic intensifies !! Hyperbole escalation increases !!! The sky is falling on our heads and will kill us all !!!!!! CLIMATE CRISIS KILLS !! ELEVENTY !!! TWELVETY !!!!!!! Protestors Storm BP AGM Despite High Security - Video Climate Activists were forcibly removed from British Petroleum’s AGM in Aberdeen today after unveiling tape to put round the meeting while shouting “this is a crime scene!”. Extinction Rebellion protestors made international headlines after shutting down central London last month, and the direct action group’s targeting of energy giant BP comes after First Minister Nicola Sturgeon declared a “climate emergency” at the end of April. In a series of tweets following the action, Extinction Rebellion Scotland explained the “this is a crime scene” message. “This is a crime scene. 250,000 people die a year due to the climate crisis. “BP is responsible for 1.5 per cent of all global emissions. Decisions made in this room are directly responsible for deaths around the world. “This is a crime scene. BP has trampled over indigenous rights. The Mapuche in Argentina. Drilling in sacred lands of the Gwich'in in Alaska. “Displacing communities in Mozambique. “This is a crime scene. BP invest less than 3 per cent in renewables. “But promises to invest $52 billion on new oil and gas in the next decade. “There is a climate emergency. Does this sound like a reasonable response? “This is a crime scene. $30 million dollars a year are spent on greenwash. But we see through your lies. We know you lobbied for rollback on regulations. “This is a crime scene. BP has lobbied against climate action, obstructing necessary legislation in the pursuit of profit. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year from climate impacts. And people in this room paid for that to worsen. ... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Foote + 1,135 JF May 21, 2019 "The only thing you'll find in the middle of the road are stripes and dead armadillos" former Texas Land Commissioner Jim Hightower. I take it you appreciate Spinal Tap. And I inadvertently hit a dillo today. Did you know the darn things have a jump reflect? They tend to panic and jump into the vehicle driving over them. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 22, 2019 This isn't ominous at all... EU / UN style unelected, unaccountable, global governance Uber Alles. Pope Francis Demands ‘Global Governance’ to Combat Climate Change Pope Francis has called for ‘global governance’ to combat climate change, declaring “the nation state cannot be considered an absolute.” During an address to the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, the Pope attacked “growing nationalism that neglects the common good” and urged for more globalism worldwide. “The nation state cannot be considered as an absolute, as an island with respect to the surrounding context,” the Pontiff said, adding, “The nation state is no longer able to procure the common good of its populations alone.” Summit.news reports: Pope Francis said that a “special authority legally and concordantly constituted” was necessary to facilitate the implementation of new climate change policies. He went on to demand that power be transferred from nation states to “intergovernmental institutions that manage their common interests.” “This universal common good, in turn, must acquire a more pronounced juridical value at international level,” concluded Francis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 May 22, 2019 I've been trying to suss out how 250,000 people are dying beneath our noses without us noticing. Then it hit me, first they panic, then they overdose on heroin. In the US that accounts for 60k per year, I'm sure the other countries can add in their share, and there you have it. The AGW demographic killing themselves like lemmings to get a head start on the global catastrophe of 1.5degrees temperature rise over 100 years, assuming the models are right… 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 May 22, 2019 Does anyone remember the hole in the ozone and how we were all going to sunburn to death? What has happened to it? It seems to have healed itself. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marina Schwarz + 1,576 May 22, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: after unveiling tape to put round the meeting while shouting “this is a crime scene!”. This is sitcom material. P.S. I want two independent sources on the 250,000 figure. Edited May 22, 2019 by Marina Schwarz 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ceo_energemsier + 1,818 cv May 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: Does anyone remember the hole in the ozone and how we were all going to sunburn to death? What has happened to it? It seems to have healed itself. I guess when Freon was banned, the ozone hole healed itself. Back then it was the ozone hole over the poles was going to cause all the ice to melt and we would be living a in water world!!! 🤣 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenFranklin'sSpectacles + 762 SF May 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: Climate Panic intensifies !! Hyperbole escalation increases !!! The sky is falling on our heads and will kill us all !!!!!! CLIMATE CRISIS KILLS !! ELEVENTY !!! TWELVETY !!!!!!! Protestors Storm BP AGM Despite High Security - Video Climate Activists were forcibly removed from British Petroleum’s AGM in Aberdeen today after unveiling tape to put round the meeting while shouting “this is a crime scene!”. Extinction Rebellion protestors made international headlines after shutting down central London last month, and the direct action group’s targeting of energy giant BP comes after First Minister Nicola Sturgeon declared a “climate emergency” at the end of April. In a series of tweets following the action, Extinction Rebellion Scotland explained the “this is a crime scene” message. “This is a crime scene. 250,000 people die a year due to the climate crisis. “BP is responsible for 1.5 per cent of all global emissions. Decisions made in this room are directly responsible for deaths around the world. “This is a crime scene. BP has trampled over indigenous rights. The Mapuche in Argentina. Drilling in sacred lands of the Gwich'in in Alaska. “Displacing communities in Mozambique. “This is a crime scene. BP invest less than 3 per cent in renewables. “But promises to invest $52 billion on new oil and gas in the next decade. “There is a climate emergency. Does this sound like a reasonable response? “This is a crime scene. $30 million dollars a year are spent on greenwash. But we see through your lies. We know you lobbied for rollback on regulations. “This is a crime scene. BP has lobbied against climate action, obstructing necessary legislation in the pursuit of profit. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year from climate impacts. And people in this room paid for that to worsen. ... All the idiots flock to leftist ideology, and that ideology discourages them from reproducing. They're just killing themselves off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 May 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: Climate Panic intensifies !! Hyperbole escalation increases !!! The sky is falling on our heads and will kill us all !!!!!! CLIMATE CRISIS KILLS !! ELEVENTY !!! TWELVETY !!!!!!! 7 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said: This is sitcom material. P.S. I want two independent sources on the 250,000 figure. Don't PANICcc!! If those were killed and are going to be killed by flood ....... we must counteract with sand from sahara and the blown over from Sahara to other countries e.g. Nigeria and China. And also let them sell soil from savanah....... By these... we help to reduce the severity of desertification; we help to solve what to do with barren savannah; we also help to reduce the severity of flood and the number of kills per year......!!! Now....... never say we oilers do nothing to help....... we have created new business opportunities that solve many problems at once............ 1 hour ago, ceo_energemsier said: I guess when Freon was banned, the ozone hole healed itself. Back then it was the ozone hole over the poles was going to cause all the ice to melt and we would be living a in water world!!! 🤣 Excellent point..... Therefore..... if we can patch up the ozone holes we would reduce the rate of ice melting and permafrost melting and sea water rising and no need to build boats for houses or build underwater houses and etc etc??! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 May 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: Does anyone remember the hole in the ozone and how we were all going to sunburn to death? What has happened to it? It seems to have healed itself. Dow Chemical was about to lose their patent protection for Freon. So they paid Singer to find a problem with chlorofluorocarbons and he did. Then they magically came out with the replacement with lots of bright, shiny new patents protecting it. 4 times as expensive and 1/4 as effective. He was so ashamed later that when he recognized the exact same techniques being used for AGW he made sure to take a stand against it. Character assassination soon followed. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 August 19, 2019 there is a real climate emergency out there - snowflakes meltdown... Wondering is this people have brains - hard to win public support by consistently pissing it off https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/extinction-rebellion-protester-suspended-from-rope-blocks-traffic-20190819-p52ier.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 19, 2019 (edited) On 5/22/2019 at 5:52 AM, Douglas Buckland said: Does anyone remember the hole in the ozone and how we were all going to sunburn to death? What has happened to it? It seems to have healed itself. Apparently it has because of the CFCs used in bad day hair aerosols, I think it’s a tipo and they actually meant something else...😂😂 https://youtu.be/iS2N1mBsEdM Edited August 19, 2019 by James Regan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 August 19, 2019 On 5/22/2019 at 6:52 PM, Douglas Buckland said: Does anyone remember the hole in the ozone and how we were all going to sunburn to death? What has happened to it? It seems to have healed itself. the hole conveniently moved to China (pardon the source) https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-44738952 On a serious note, hole is still there and changing with season http://www.theozonehole.com/index.htm 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 August 20, 2019 seems Aussie polies are getting some pressure from electorate tired of idiotic escapades of extreme greens https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/government-to-crack-down-on-stupid-protesters-using-sinister-tactics-20190820-p52iry.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Okie + 83 FR August 20, 2019 On 5/22/2019 at 12:28 PM, Ward Smith said: Dow Chemical was about to lose their patent protection for Freon. So they paid Singer to find a problem with chlorofluorocarbons and he did. In trying to ascertain who this Singer guy was, I only found one article in Popular Science that stated he (S. Fred Singer) testified in a congressional hearing that CFCs were not a problem, rather than saying there was one. Furthermore, the article pointed out that he was alone against thousands of other scientists that took the opposite view. By the way, it would be helpful if you guys would stop using abbreviations when not using common terms, at least the first time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanilKa + 443 August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Okie said: By the way, it would be helpful if you guys would stop using abbreviations when not using common terms, at least the first time. Okis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 August 20, 2019 On 5/22/2019 at 2:52 AM, Douglas Buckland said: Does anyone remember the hole in the ozone and how we were all going to sunburn to death? What has happened to it? It seems to have healed itself. We, mostly, eliminated CFC's / ODS. They used to be in everything - like hairspray when big hair styles were popular. It healed itself after we stopped poisoning it. The ozone layer is an example of how we can reverse environmental damage if we put our minds to it. Catalytic converters and other technologies greatly reduced acid rain too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 August 20, 2019 If you honestly believe that the recent ban on CFC's is the reason that the hole in the ozone layer healed and closed since the ban was put in place, a very short time in the scope of natural phenomena, you are deluding yourself! Furthermore, the ban of CFC's in cooling systems forced the use of less efficient mediums, WHICH REQUIRED MORE ENERGY FROM FOSSIL FUELS TO GET THE SAME LEVEL OF COOLING! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,192 August 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Enthalpic said: We, mostly, eliminated CFC's / ODS. They used to be in everything - like hairspray when big hair styles were popular. It healed itself after we stopped poisoning it. The ozone layer is an example of how we can reverse environmental damage if we put our minds to it. Catalytic converters and other technologies greatly reduced acid rain too. Ozone hole is the same size. https://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/ Acid rain... could be measured and cause known Climate Change.... Yea it is happening; always has. Cause? Unknown other than MOST of it is natural at the least. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 August 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: If you honestly believe that the recent ban on CFC's is the reason that the hole in the ozone layer healed and closed since the ban was put in place, a very short time in the scope of natural phenomena, you are deluding yourself! The Montreal protocol isn't that new and is having a measurable effect on ODS levels. You guy poo poo every environmental action, nothings perfect... I did work on the enforcement side so I may be a bit biased on that one. Sampling imported "silly string" and odd canisters was a lot more fun than some other analysis. "Sample disposal" (if they were clean) was fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 August 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Enthalpic said: The Montreal protocol isn't that new and is having a measurable effect on ODS levels. You guy poo poo every environmental action, nothings perfect... I did work on the enforcement side so I may be a bit biased on that one. Sampling imported "silly string" and odd canisters was a lot more fun than some other analysis. "Sample disposal" (if they were clean) was fun! The Montreal Protocol was not even a blink of an eye ago in terms of Mother Nature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites