Stephen + 67 SM January 29, 2018 California Governor Jerry Brown signed executive order planing to have 5 million zero-emission vehicles on the road by 2030. The new goal expands a previously issued executive order that called for 1.5 million zero-emission cars in California by 2025. There are currently 350,000 zero-emission cars in the state -- a big jump from 25,000 in 2012, according to Brown's order. About 5% of all new car sales in the Golden State are zero-emission. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA January 29, 2018 Let CA dig their own grave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT January 29, 2018 I agree. So, keep federal government out of California's environmental policy. Thanks to cleaner air, they will need that grave a few years later than areas with polluted air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 January 29, 2018 how is that "executive order" being implemented? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnAtronis + 78 JA January 29, 2018 No, you don't understand real motive. California's stringent air regulations are driven by the over population of the area. The atmosphere there cannot deal with reasonable rates of pollutant emissions and must be stringently regulated. Even with that, the area remains marginally in compliance with health-based standards and certainly is not cleaner than other areas in the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen + 67 SM January 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnAtronis said: No, you don't understand real motive. California's stringent air regulations are driven by the over population of the area. The atmosphere there cannot deal with reasonable rates of pollutant emissions and must be stringently regulated. Even with that, the area remains marginally in compliance with health-based standards and certainly is not cleaner than other areas in the country. I am speaking about the future, not the present or past. Federal govt forcing a lower standard would obviously be health-hazardous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna + 68 JT January 29, 2018 Jerry Brown will have us all walking soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP January 31, 2018 Morocco and California lead the way in replacing fossil fuels with renewable energy.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP January 31, 2018 CA lives green last decade. 50% of California's power is expected to come from renewable resources by 2030? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP February 1, 2018 There is no such things as a “zero-emitting” vehicle and a ban would add costs to already-stretched households and expose Californians to risks especially during natural disasters when power grids often fail and EVs can't be charged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV February 1, 2018 So the plan is to get all EVs? In my opinion there is no reason to accelerate the EVs adoption rate given the insignificant gains. Given that we are also have an increased saturated CO2 level, further decreases in CO2 emissions have a reduced payback, which means that this will not aid California or the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK February 1, 2018 Even in the most coal-heavy states EVs are much better than gas cars. Every gas car taken off the road means cleaner air for them -- even if they personally are not driving the EV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV February 1, 2018 Even Norway with its huge subsidies on EVs have only achieved 20% now and they can just get funds from their oil business tax funds. This will hit the poor more than rich silicon valley guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP February 1, 2018 Actually you're wrong. They are at 50%+ and going up. A huge part of the missing 50% is because you can't really get an electric with a tow hook which is almost a standard on Norwegian cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM February 1, 2018 How can they be zero emissions? Where does the power come from that charges them? How were they made? Where do the dead battery packs go? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD February 1, 2018 The greenness of the electric car is only improved if the greenness of the grid and power plants is markedly improved. It's a a common process and a circle.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM February 1, 2018 How about putting that money into CA infrastructure?($2.5 billion's costing his plan!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites