ronwagn + 6,290 August 29, 2019 https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/08/28/remoaners-completely-lose-it-over-brexit/ Delingpole: Brexit Is Happening. Savour Those Remoaner Tears! 1,242 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakridge + 122 JA August 30, 2019 God Bless the UK for desiring to be a sovereign nation again! Savoring those globalist tears as well. 2 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 August 30, 2019 Fantastic! I think we will soon be seeing a leaner, meaner, more vitalized UK in the near future! 2 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 August 30, 2019 (edited) A recession in the UK and the rest of the EU is pretty much assured, too. The British are going to discover the benefits of free trade... after losing it. "You don't know what you got until it's gone." Or something like that. Edited August 30, 2019 by Zhong Lu 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: Fantastic! I think we will soon be seeing a leaner, meaner, more vitalized UK in the near future! Probably not. The UK is left without a very large market to sell to, and meanwhile is being stuck with vast numbers of largely unproductive migrants, either refugees or displaced persons from Africa. Effectively, there are few if any real jobs for those people. If the Brits seek to avoid having that large group become a permanent criminal underclass, then they will have to be paid to stay home. That gets expensive fast. How you would propose to revitalize the UK with that overhang is not clear. I don't think it can be done. Meanwhile, it is becoming apparent that the City of London finance center will move to the Continent, so that big engine of capital growth is history. Hard to see how the Brits can put it together with all these anchors. Edited August 31, 2019 by Jan van Eck typing error 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Jakridge said: God Bless the UK for desiring to be a sovereign nation again! Savoring those globalist tears as well. It has always been a sovereign nation. Your exultation is misplaced. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW August 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Probably not. The UK is left without a very large market to sell to, and meanwhile is being stuck with vast numbers of largely unproductive migrants, either refugees or displaced persons from Africa. Effectively, there are few if any real jobs for those people. If the Brits seek to avoid having that large group become a permanent criminal underclass, then they will have to be paid to stay home. That gets expensive fast. How you would propose to revitalize the UK with that overhand is not clear. I don't think it can be done. Meanwhile, it is becoming apparent that the City of London finance center will move to the Continent, so that big engine of capital growth is history. Hard to see how the Brits can put it together with all these anchors. This presumes European products will continue to find a market in the UK while UK products are barred? I think not. If Europe were to actually cut off trade then that will be reciprocal and the UK has a very large balance of trade deficit with Europe. I can easily do without Dutch / Spanish Tomatoes & Cucumbers. French and Italian wine. Danish bacon etc etc etc We don't have to buy a million plus German cars a year either Edited August 30, 2019 by NickW 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest August 30, 2019 (edited) ''It's a coup! Democracy threatened! Take to the streets!'' The Queen: ''Yeah whatever Boris, go for it, I'm sick of this s**t too.'' 1 hour ago, NickW said: I can easily do without Dutch / Spanish Tomatoes & Cucumbers. French and Italian wine. Danish bacon etc etc etc We don't have to buy a million plus German cars a year either And cheese Nick. Don't forget the cheese. Edited August 30, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, DayTrader said: ''It's a coup! Democracy threatened! Take to the streets!'' The Queen: ''Yeah whatever Boris, go for it, I'm sick of this s**t too.'' And cheese Nick. Don't forget the cheese. I think the UK is actually a net exporter of cheese! We can keep more of our lovely Stilton, Shropshire Blue, Wensleydale etc and the Dutch can keep their rubber (Edam ) 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest August 30, 2019 Rubber and wax. Delightful. And shove some garlic in soft cheese, you've got Boursin. Sorted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Zhong Lu said: "You don't know what you got until it's gone." Or something like that. True. Ask the German economy. You also don't know future potential unless you crack a few eggs... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, NickW said: and the Dutch can keep their rubber (Edam ) Edam is made in my hometown and I go to great, huge, lengths to have it specially imported by the full brick or roundhead ("Bol") to me here in the USA. Last time I was in the Caribbean (Sint Maarten) I brought back a whole suitcase full, 70 lbs worth. The New York customs people looked at me rather dubiously. Guess they don't have an appreciation for the really fine Dutch stuff. Oh, well. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said: The New York customs people looked at me rather dubiously. Must have been my charming smile and dashing good looks that kept Customs from cutting the blocks of cheese all open to see what was inside all that cheese! Ah, ya gotta be Dutch to appreciate the stuff, I guess. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, NickW said: We don't have to buy a million plus German cars a year either Last I heard, that gigantic Austin Morris factory in Coventry got bulldozed, so kinda tough to re-start at this point. Bentley got sold to the Germans, now they build it with some Volkswagen engine. But be of good cheer; I will be happy to set up an electric bicycle plant and crank out a million machines a year for the locals. That way you guys don't even have to pedal! (I'll toss in a rain shield...) Hang in there behind the Cliffs of Dover, hey, that even discouraged the Germans! Rather solid rampart, all things considered..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP August 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Probably not. The UK is left without a very large market to sell to, and meanwhile is being stuck with vast numbers of largely unproductive migrants, either refugees or displaced persons from Africa. Effectively, there are few if any real jobs for those people. If the Brits seek to avoid having that large group become a permanent criminal underclass, then they will have to be paid to stay home. That gets expensive fast. How you would propose to revitalize the UK with that overhand is not clear. I don't think it can be done. Meanwhile, it is becoming apparent that the City of London finance center will move to the Continent, so that big engine of capital growth is history. Hard to see how the Brits can put it together with all these anchors. Jan I have followed many of your comments on various topics and think you're a super smart guy! However these comments I disagree with. I partly own a factory in the UK manufacturing goods predominantly for the energy markets, we struggle to find people in the UK who (a) want to work and (b) have the correct skill set. There are plenty of jobs and well paid jobs for people who want to get on in life and are willing to work their way up to be skilled valuable members of the community. We employ many E.Europeans and have done so for 20 years, many of whom are now key highly skilled members of our management team. Our main market is Europe (circa 70% exported there) are we worried? yes due to the uncertainty of the last 3 years of pissing around after the vote. However the EU will still be our market I believe as tariffs will be offset by a weakened GBP to export, however for imports these will be far more expensive and hurt our competitors trying to break into the UK market. Regarding migrants and refugees the UK has taken way more than their fair share over the years compared to our EU cousins (look at the camps in Calais) with no criteria to satisfy for entry (not even that they have to speak English after 10 years). BoJo like him or loathe him will bring in criteria for migrant skills that they have to satisfy going forward or they aint getting in, just like many other Western countries. Regarding the financial sector you may be right, only time will tell. I was a remainer but Brexit needs to be done and done quickly if not for the economy then for democracy! be kind its my first ever post ☺️ 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest August 30, 2019 He is smart, but he likes weird cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP August 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, DayTrader said: He is smart, but he likes weird cheese Yeah Jan how can you eat rubber encased in wax? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 August 30, 2019 What people forget is most of the so-called "EU regulations" are designed for the free flow of goods across borders without tariffs or bureaucratic regulations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Last I heard, that gigantic Austin Morris factory in Coventry got bulldozed, so kinda tough to re-start at this point. Bentley got sold to the Germans, now they build it with some Volkswagen engine. But be of good cheer; I will be happy to set up an electric bicycle plant and crank out a million machines a year for the locals. That way you guys don't even have to pedal! (I'll toss in a rain shield...) Hang in there behind the Cliffs of Dover, hey, that even discouraged the Germans! Rather solid rampart, all things considered..... Toyota, Nissan, Vauxhall, Honda (until 2021), Jaguar Land Rover, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, BMW - Mini all still manufacture inside the Uk - about 1.4 million cars in total. Plus: Triumph Motorbikes Vauxhall Vans A variety of other coach and lorry builders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickW + 2,714 NW August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Probably not. The UK is left without a very large market to sell to, and meanwhile is being stuck with vast numbers of largely unproductive migrants, either refugees or displaced persons from Africa. Effectively, there are few if any real jobs for those people. If the Brits seek to avoid having that large group become a permanent criminal underclass, then they will have to be paid to stay home. That gets expensive fast. How you would propose to revitalize the UK with that overhand is not clear. I don't think it can be done. Meanwhile, it is becoming apparent that the City of London finance center will move to the Continent, so that big engine of capital growth is history. Hard to see how the Brits can put it together with all these anchors. We are sending many of them back home. Bye bye Somali Cloggys😄 No need to translate... https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/416261304/somalische-brexit-terugkeerders-krijgen-opvang?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=/bzr7zgub3s?amp=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Yeah Jan how can you eat rubber encased in wax? Easy. You slice off the wax! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Rob Plant said: However these comments I disagree with. Rob, we are in full agreement. Nothing to disagree on, except that the sinking of the GBP may not be enough to offset EU tariffs "if" the EU tariffs your particular products. The EU may not. It is entirely possible that both groups - EU and GB - simply continue to trade and impose no tariffs on each other. Hey, could happen. That is currently the case with the vast majority of products flowing across the Border between Canada and the USA, now that NAFTA has been scrapped and the new treaty remains without ratification. The big exception is lumber, due to a long-standing dispute over "stumpage fees" in Canada, and that dispute has been going on for at least 60 years with no resolution in sight. Will the GBP sink? That is likely. In your particular case, it flows to your benefit. Always nice. Cheers. Edited August 30, 2019 by Jan van Eck corrected NATA to NAFTA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, DayTrader said: He is smart, but he likes weird cheese Now that's Funny! Ha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG August 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, NickW said: We are sending many of them back home. Bye bye Somali Cloggys😄 No need to translate... https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/416261304/somalische-brexit-terugkeerders-krijgen-opvang?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=/bzr7zgub3s?amp=1 That is an interesting phenomenon. What you tag as "cloggys" indeed have a Dutch passport. Yet the Ruling is that they may not arrive without first having a housing arrangement. What the Netherlands government seeks to avoid is large numbers of people coming back to Holland and no place to live, so end up camped out and demanding the govt supply them with a hotel room. Housing is, and always has been, a critical issue in Holland, with insufficient stock to meet the expanding demand. (Incidentally that policy would affect me also, as I have no housing there, should I seek "right of return." Oh, well.) thanks for sharing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 August 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Probably not. The UK is left without a very large market to sell to, and meanwhile is being stuck with vast numbers of largely unproductive migrants, either refugees or displaced persons from Africa. Effectively, there are few if any real jobs for those people. If the Brits seek to avoid having that large group become a permanent criminal underclass, then they will have to be paid to stay home. That gets expensive fast. How you would propose to revitalize the UK with that overhand is not clear. I don't think it can be done. Meanwhile, it is becoming apparent that the City of London finance center will move to the Continent, so that big engine of capital growth is history. Hard to see how the Brits can put it together with all these anchors. The same way they survived WW2 and maintained their freedom despite Hitler and Stalin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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