ceo_energemsier + 1,818 cv September 12, 2019 House Votes to Bar Arctic Drilling The House voted Thursday to again bar oil and gas drilling in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, as Democrats seek to put Republicans on the record on tough environmental issues for the 2020 election. The legislation by California Democratic Representative Jared Huffman would repeal a law passed by Republicans in 2017 that ended a 40-year-old ban on drilling in the protected wilderness area and instead mandated lease sales in a coastal portion of the 19-million-acre refuge. It was approved by a vote of 225-193, with four Republicans voting in favor of the legislation and five Democrats opposing it. “The Trump administration is now recklessly rushing to ruin the Arctic refuge with oil rigs,” Huffman told reporters. “Overwhelmingly, Americans don’t want this to happen.” The bill caps off a week of anti-drilling legislation. The House voted Wednesday to limit drilling in U.S. coastal waters, including an effort to permanently ban rigs near Florida. The measures have virtually zero chance of passing the Republican-controlled Senate, but the Democratic challenge to President Donald Trump’s pro-drilling agenda arises as voters say climate and other environmental issues are of increasing importance to them. House Republicans have countered by offering an energy bill of their own they said would create jobs and lessen dependence on foreign adversaries, while warning Democratic restrictions would lead to increased energy costs. The Republican measure would give coastal states a 50% share of oil and gas revenue from the Gulf of Mexico and allow states to take over permitting functions. “America is rich with energy resources, and developing them will create jobs, strengthen our economy, and protect our national security,” said Representative Paul Gosar, an Arizona Republican. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 September 13, 2019 Apparently Democrats are bought off by Russia. Because Russia will lay claim to pretty much the entire Arctic region for oil & gas, and Democrats apparently want to freely hand the Arctic over to Russia. #DemocratRussiaArcticCollusion 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ceo_energemsier + 1,818 cv September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said: Apparently Democrats are bought off by Russia. Because Russia will lay claim to pretty much the entire Arctic region for oil & gas, and Democrats apparently want to freely hand the Arctic over to Russia. #DemocratRussiaArcticCollusion They are, and Poker her Nose said so she wants to help Russia and Venezuelan oil industry. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenrwald/2019/09/10/why-russia-and-saudi-arabia-secretly-want-the-democrats-to-beat-trump/#85ebc9836d49 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest September 13, 2019 55 minutes ago, ceo_energemsier said: voters say climate and other environmental issues are of increasing importance to them. Is this true there? Why do they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 September 13, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, DayTrader said: Is this true there? Why do they? Take a look at Deadhorse, Alaska and Tuktyuktuk in Canada on the artic circle and you will see why the greenies are hugging polar bears (no trees up that way), I think there is enough oil being produced at the moment without venturing into these reserves, im no tree hugger but there has to be a limit. Better to keep punching holes in mid America, and lets see what happens- Kerplunk Edited September 13, 2019 by James Regan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest September 13, 2019 (edited) Ok fair enough but it's kinda suggested voters concerned about loads of issues and examples. What kinda % are we talking in America that is actually concerned by the oil industry? (while using their oil based products all day everyday). For example, stop using China production then and save all that transportation? But Trump still the bad guy, whatever he does. Edited September 13, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,187 September 13, 2019 Entire Interior Department needs to be abolished with all federal lands being handed to the States they reside in. Should have happened at statehood. It is absurd that there is a BLM/NFS etc. PS: Ok, keep the NPS, but all funds for the NPS comes from the local state Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, DayTrader said: Ok fair enough but it's kinda suggested voters concerned about loads of issues and examples. What kinda % are we talking in America that is actually concerned by the oil industry? (while using their oil based products all day everyday). For example, stop using China production then and save all that transportation? But Trump still the bad guy, whatever he does. Californians aren't real Americans any way, I think most non Californians would agree? The list of oil based products is endless and they would be the first ones to be whining. All those fancy vintage cars that don't rust what do they run on steam (coal fired), if oil disappeared tomorrow what would happen, Mad Max would become a Hollywood reality. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest September 13, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, James Regan said: The list of oil based products is endless That's my point, I'm watching this debate now. You've got 10 people going on about the climate, who are probably all then getting in their own separate car afterwards lol? If you care, cut oil out of your lives. Oh, you can't. If you care, stop buying anything from abroad. Become a vegan. Become Amish. Don't go on international holidays. Cycle everywhere. Car share. There are hundreds of things you could do and I bet they do none of them. Ooh I bought some low power bulbs. So sick of hearing 'climate change' as just buzz words for these clowns who deep down don't give a s**t, and they do it because they think it's the right thing to say?? Then they all get on a plane?! Jeez. Edited September 13, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, DayTrader said: That's my point, I'm watching this debate now. You've got 10 people going on about the climate, who are probably all then getting in their own separate car afterwards lol? If you care, cut oil out of your lives. Oh, you can't. If you care, stop buying anything from abroad. Become a vegan. Become Amish. Don't go on international holidays. Cycle everywhere. Car share. There are hundreds of things you could do and I bet they do none of them. Ooh I bought some low power bulbs. So sick of hearing 'climate change' as just buzz words for these clowns who deep down don't give a s**t, and they do it because they think it's the right thing to say?? Then they all get on a plane?! Jeez. Just the hot air coming out of the mouths of these Liberal lounge lizards is warming the planet... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest September 13, 2019 (edited) I'm just trying to work out which hole the words are coming from haha you added kerplunk pic Edited September 13, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 September 13, 2019 Reality check: Trump administration rolls out final environmental review for Arctic Refuge oil leasing Today, the Trump administration took one of the last steps to allow oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The Interior Department has released its final environmental analysis for oil lease sales in the northernmost 1.6 million acres of the Refuge, known as the Coastal Plain. In its final environmental impact statement, the agency selected a preferred option that would offer close to the entirety of the Coastal Plain to oil leasing, rather than a different alternative that would have put certain portions of the refuge off limits in order to help protect caribou habitat. “After rigorous review, robust public comment, and a consideration of a range of alternatives, today’s announcement is a big step to carry out the clear mandate we received from Congress to develop and implement a leasing program for the Coastal Plain, a program the people of Alaska have been seeking for over 40 years,” Interior Secretary David Bernhardt said in a statement. ... ... And today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill that would once again block oil development in the Refuge. That legislation is largely symbolic, as it has little chance of passing the Republican-led Senate. Still, it sends a strong signal regarding Democrats’ position on drilling in the Refuge ahead of next year’s Presidential election. With the release of the final environmental review, leaders at Trump’s Interior department aim to let oil companies bid on land in the Refuge before the end of the year. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK September 13, 2019 American Politicians are rushing to destroy America’s economy, More interest in Globalization and have no concern for the average American! Obama sent 8 years tearing down the United States globally and he dam near succeeded. America has enough natural resources and manpower in the ability to grow seed manufacture and supply everything Americans need within our borders! I would not be opposed to closing our borders and just take care of Americans and hell with everybody else and then see how the rest of the world reacts ! 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest September 13, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RichieRich216 said: and supply everything Americans need within our borders! I would not be opposed to closing our borders and just take care of Dang is this about Brexit or USA? Perfect. Edited September 13, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Foote + 1,135 JF September 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, RichieRich216 said: Obama sent 8 years tearing down the United States globally and he dam near succeeded. It's a load of crap to credit/blame Obama. From a China perspective it starts with Nixon, but the race to China by big business to gut American manufacturing and become a nation of brands and design only really got going under Clinton. The ugly reality is on globalization and the federal reserve issues, there wasn't a nano-meter difference in the policies of Bush41, Clinton, Bush43, and Obama, the post Cold War presidents. There were differences in each of those administrations, but not of significance on trade and the fed. Today there is a genuine difference in what Trump is trying to do. I applaud much of the intent, cry at the likely effect of going it alone as others we deal with will take advantage. Fortunately for now, the global herd of money still finds the USA the best place to be. Consider the other options, the EU, China, Middle East, South America, etc.. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, DayTrader said: Is this true there? Why do they? Americans have Climate Change on the bottom of the list. Most do not believe the alarmists. Unfortunately, most do not know anything about energy that the mainstream media doesn't tell them. Many think fossil fuels can be replaced by solar panels, wind turbines, and moonbeams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 September 13, 2019 Google ANWR and every single picture you'll see is somewhere OTHER than the ANWR! If you've been there, it's a whole lot of nothing. Pictures showing thousands of caribou are a dead giveaway that it's Not ANWR. Nothing whatsoever for them to eat let alone it's a salty bog. But hey, Senator Kennedy took a huge bribe to create it in the first place, so let's all pretend it was always the case. Meanwhile we don't need a massive amount of oil TODAY, but who knows about tomorrow? New resources like ANWR will take decades to come online and given the decline curves for shale oil, decades might be all we have. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites