Let's shut down dissent like The Conversation in Australia

[James Regan + 1,776]

Irony - https://youtu.be/p0PjECSyJ7w

I'm gonna leave this city, got to get away
I'm gonna leave this city, got to get away -All this fussin' and fightin' man, you know I sure can't stay

Edited September 19, 2019 by James Regan

[SERWIN + 749]

On 9/17/2019 at 10:16 PM, Tom Kirkman said:

Dear Editorial Team of "The Conversation Australia"

Screw you and screw your totalitarian censorship of dissent.

Sincerely,

Tom Kirkman

A moderator on the Oil Price forum

Just my opinion; as always, you are free to disagree.

Seems like the Conversation Australia has decided, just like a lot of the left wing libs have, that freedom of speech and personal opinions are only acceptable if they are voicing the same opinion they have. Everybody else is just wrong, so freedom of speech should be revoked for those they disagree with. They might as well have just said it. "If you don't agree with the editors/moderators on our site, we will ban you. Are they trying to start a branch of the Democratic party over there now?

They need to go hide in their crying closet and cuddle with their comfort animals.

[Norm Young + 2]

17 hours ago, Jan van Eck said:

My approach to climate change denial purveyors is to remind them that the internet never forgets, and if they're wrong, which seems very likely, the younger generation is going to be looking for some scapegoats to burn at the stake.  Literally. Screaming and burning. Probably in their own front yard.

  So be damn certain about your positions on GCC denial, because the future is listening and despite your vpns and your attempts to make yourself anonymous a future AI will make child's play of these attempts to avoid responsibility.

No need to ban them;just remind them what's at stake.

 

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,191]

16 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Affluent middle class is cited as the problem. The elites want to eliminate the middle class unless they are under their direct control and help control those below them. 

My public administration professor was a big fan of the Club of Rome when it was just getting going. He was as much an ass as they are. 

Of course: The threat to the powerful has ALWAYS been the middle class.  Why?  The middle class is not beholden to the powerful and the middle class move into the upper class and HORRORS, displace the fat cats. 

[ronwagn + 6,290]

6 hours ago, Norm Young said:

 

All we have to do is look at the sad failures of all climate change predictions from the last several decades. They need to pay the price for their false predictions. They act like none of this history of failed predictions exist. 

[KeyboardWarrior + 527]

On 9/18/2019 at 5:22 PM, Tom Kirkman said:

 

LMFAO 

When I first heard of Greta I actually laughed out loud. Modern Hitler Youth if you ask me.. but then again she's just a young girl. No need to be overly harsh. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

16 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

LMFAO 

When I first heard of Greta I actually laughed out loud. Modern Hitler Youth if you ask me.. but then again she's just a young girl. No need to be overly harsh. 

She's a kid being used by very selfish adults with a clear agenda.

[KeyboardWarrior + 527]

43 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

She's a kid being used by very selfish adults with a clear agenda.

Yes. I suppose the Hitler Youth comparison has some truth then. Except the youth is a mouthpiece this time. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

5 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

She's a kid being used by very selfish adults with a clear agenda.

 

4 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

Yes. I suppose the Hitler Youth comparison has some truth then. Except the youth is a mouthpiece this time. 

Meet the Antifa family.  Dad, Mom and Daughter, all wearing Antifa t-shirts.  T-shirts say "Antifascist All Stars"

[ronwagn + 6,290]

It is telling that anifascists don't realize they are fascists. Sheer stupidity and lies. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

On 9/19/2019 at 6:35 PM, Tom Kirkman said:

"Climate Confessions?"

Not a parody.  Madness takes its toll.

 

The NBC "Climate Confessions" got totally savaged online.  People are simply fed up with this 1st world guilt trip bullsh*t being forcibly shoved down their throats by smowflake weenie panic mongers of the cancel culture persuation.  Everything is offensive to some people.  At some point, people say enough to the neverending barrage of being offended for a living weenies and give them the middle finger.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

On 9/20/2019 at 10:29 AM, KeyboardWarrior said:

LMFAO 

When I first heard of Greta I actually laughed out loud. Modern Hitler Youth if you ask me.. but then again she's just a young girl. No need to be overly harsh. 

ORLY?  For your consideration.  There is some interesting info amongst the tin foil here:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1174822562674741248.html

[KeyboardWarrior + 527]

3 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

ORLY?  For your consideration.  There is some interesting info amongst the tin foil here:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1174822562674741248.html

This is unnerving.. I have some digging to do as I can't distinguish between truth and tin foil on that page. I'm sure some of it has to be true, but it seems incredibly outlandish. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

13 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

This is unnerving.. I have some digging to do as I can't distinguish between truth and tin foil on that page. I'm sure some of it has to be true, but it seems incredibly outlandish. 

I encourage you to do your own digging.

In my opinion, there is more correct information than tin foil in that thread.  Sorting out the facts from the tin foil can indeed be unnerving.  Links are provided for many of the points raised in the thread for people to chase down and make up their own minds.

One thing is certain, Greta and parents are not accidental protesters.  See the Antifa t-shirts they all wear which I posted a few comments above.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

8 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

I encourage you to do your own digging.

In my opinion, there is more correct information than tin foil in that thread.  Sorting out the facts from the tin foil can indeed be unnerving.  Links are provided for many of the points raised in the thread for people to chase down and make up their own minds.

One thing is certain, Greta and parents are not accidental protesters.  See the Antifa t-shirts they all wear which I posted a few comments above.

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions Have you seen this article?

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

12 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions Have you seen this article?

Yep, read it earlier this morning.  Good stuff.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

22 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

This is unnerving.. I have some digging to do as I can't distinguish between truth and tin foil on that page. I'm sure some of it has to be true, but it seems incredibly outlandish. 

 

22 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

I encourage you to do your own digging.

In my opinion, there is more correct information than tin foil in that thread.  Sorting out the facts from the tin foil can indeed be unnerving.  Links are provided for many of the points raised in the thread for people to chase down and make up their own minds.

One thing is certain, Greta and parents are not accidental protesters.  See the Antifa t-shirts they all wear which I posted a few comments above.

SURPRISE! The Official Escort for 16-Year-Old Global Warming ‘Expert’ Greta Thunberg Is a Leftist Hack Funded by George Soros Org.

[HARRY1 0]

personal attacks or generalized slurs against any groups of people will be summarily deleted by moderators....unless you're a young girl attacking old white men. Then we'll demonize you because our toys use fossil fuels and you're not taking our toys from us. FU

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, HARRY1 said:

unless you're a young girl attacking old white men.

Think you mean old, white, WESTERN men

China and India? Nah they are fine pollution wise. You don't mention their 'toys' ?

Nothing odd or suspicious to you about a child getting into a meeting like that and giving the big one to world leaders? No agenda going on there?

Wake up.

Edited September 25, 2019 by Guest

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

2 hours ago, HARRY1 said:

personal attacks or generalized slurs against any groups of people will be summarily deleted by moderators....unless you're a young girl attacking old white men. Then we'll demonize you because our toys use fossil fuels and you're not taking our toys from us. FU

Yeah, I've run into this before.

The Left has a distinct double standard.

Greta is a specific child being used and abused by her parents and other adults with an agenda.

I am not making a generalized slur.  I am very specifically calling out the play acting bullshit by Greta, which is being actively forced by her parents, and which is being forcibly shoved down our throats by Mainstream Media.

Your complaint is noted.

Have you not noticed that Greta is personally attacking all adults?  Her speech was one huge personal attack and yelling diatribe against anyone that disagrees with her extremist views.  

Greta allows zero dissent.  And I have a very big problem with that.

Greta is a Public Figure, and is not immune to criticism, in response to her yelling diatribe theatrics and her attempts to shut down any and all dissent.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

@TomTom  @CMOP @Selva if I am out of line here as a moderator, please let me know.

Clearly, these are my own opinions, and I sure as heck don't speak on behalf of Oil Price staff or anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

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Excerpt from the "About Me" section of my profile:

*** Important !   I do *not* expect others to agree with my opinions.  I tend to have rather unusual opinions about international Oil & Gas.  I *do* hope that readers will fearlessly voice their own views about international oil & gas.

As a former moderator on the Oilpro forum, (and now a moderator here on the Oil Price Community forum) I *encourage* dissent, and *encourage* Freedom of Speech, and *encourage* others to freely voice their views and convictions about oil & gas. 

A diversity of global views is what makes the world a special place.  Conformity is just a slow, painful death of not speaking your mind.  So SPEAK UP.  Please don't be a jerk about about it, though.  If you want others to consider your views, please be willing to consider the views of others.

===========================

Note that Greta is totally unwilling to consider the views of others.  Only her own views count, and everyone else's views can go to hell.

Sorry, I'm not buying that bullshit.

/ end rant

 

[Selva + 252]

9 hours ago, HARRY1 said:

personal attacks or generalized slurs against any groups of people will be summarily deleted by moderators....unless you're a young girl attacking old white men. Then we'll demonize you because our toys use fossil fuels and you're not taking our toys from us. FU

 

8 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Greta is a Public Figure, and is not immune to criticism, in response to her yelling diatribe theatrics and her attempts to shut down any and all dissent.

HARRY1,

I'm not sure if your comment is about Greta or oil industry in general. However, everyone is free to present opinions transparently in this forum, even about Greta who, as Tom already pointed out, is a public figure. Also all comments are subjects to criticism, positive or negative and every post author must be aware of it. 

Comments in this forum are not deleted unless they are advertisement. Only threads could be closed for further discussion when posts become insults or they have nothing to do with topic. 

This forum is moderated in accordance with our Guidelines. If you haven't read than before, here they are. 

 

 

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,191]

1 hour ago, Selva said:

Comments in this forum are not deleted unless they are advertisement. Only threads could be closed for further discussion when posts become insults or they have nothing to do with topic. 

This forum is moderated in accordance with our Guidelines. If you haven't read than before, here they are.

Unless of course your name is the new moderator Jan Van Eck, who got caught posting BS on thread space elevator in technology forum.  Why?  Never bothered to read the article, commented falsely about it, got caught, and got called on his BS.  So, CYA.... delete posts... yea...

Edited September 25, 2019 by footeab@yahoo.com

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

10 hours ago, Selva said:

everyone is free to present opinions transparently in this forum, even about Greta who, as Tom already pointed out, is a public figure. Also all comments are subjects to criticism, positive or negative and every post author must be aware of it. 

 

Worth reading.

A Line-By-Line Response to Greta Thunberg’s UN Speech

A climate skeptic answers the fiery rhetoric of the Left’s star climate alarmist

Note: Greta’s speech is reprinted below. Her quotes are in italic, mine follow each quote. If it turns out there were errors in transcription—as seems likely—I’ll try to update with corrections. I apologize for the snarky tone, but if a 17-year-old can dish it out, I think she can take it.

“My message is that we’ll be watching you. This is all wrong, I shouldn’t be up here, I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean.”

So in your first paragraph you confess that what you’re doing is wrong, and you shouldn’t be doing it. You note you should be back home and in school. OK, so far we’re 100% in agreement. Next?  ...

 

[JZBoozell + 4]

When it comes to climate change, I do not know enough to make a judgement one way or the other, and I doubt Greta has the scientific background to understand it any better.

What I do know is that this issue is preventing other environmental issues from being brought up. It's like a magician using misdirection. A few examples we have mind-boggling amounts of plastic in the ocean they need to be taken care of. Our waterways have high levels of contaminants that are killing and mutating the fish. We have invasive species such as the spotted lanternfly in the Northeast, the silver carp (flying fish) in the Mississippi, and the Nutria (looks like a large groundhog with white whiskers) that are disturbing our ecology.

I do not think that the United States is solely responsible for these issues.

Edited September 26, 2019 by JZBoozell
Forgot something

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

11 hours ago, JZBoozell said:

When it comes to climate change, I do not know enough to make a judgement one way or the other, and I doubt Greta has the scientific background to understand it any better.

1 minute video.  U.N. in 1992.  

The prequel to Greta:

Nothing new under the sun