The Ultimate Heresy: Technology Can't Fix What's Broken

[Guest]

The ultimate heresy in today's world isn't religious or political: it's refusing to believe that technology can not only solve all our problems, it will do so painlessly and without any sacrifice. Anyone who dares to question this orthodoxy is instantly declared an anti-progress (gasp!) Luddite, i.e. a heretic in league with the Devil.

Authored by Charles Hugh Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,

Technology can't fix what's broken, because what's broken is our entire system..

Even worse, if that's possible, is declaring that technology is making our lives worse rather than better. There's an entire industry devoted to cherry-picking data to support the One True Faith of Technology: a new miracle drug (never mind the side-effects or the fact that the drug only works on a relative handful of patients), a new energy source that will generate nearly free energy in near-infinite quantities (thorium reactors, though there is not yet a single one that's operational), and the marketing of convenience: this new marketing gimmick will change your life--you can try on clothing in virtual reality, no need to go to the mall! Wow! Borrow more, buy more, throw more into the landfill--isn't technology wonderful?

Meanwhile, back in reality, the previous "miracle drug," statins, turn out to be useless in reducing heart disease and actively reduce health via a vast array of negative side effects: Do statins really work? Who benefits? Who has the power to cover up the side effects? (europeanscientist.com). Heavily promoted "miracle drugs" make billions of dollars for the corporate owners, whether they actually improve health in the long-term or not. But the tech-will-fix-everything cheerleaders never get around to examining the spectacular failures of Big Pharma, or the catastrophic consequences of smartphone addiction (see chart below), or the impossibility of scaling technology without consuming vast amounts of resources which are already scarce. This excerpt from my new book explains the absurdity of the tech faithful's belief system: (The book is Will You Be Richer or Poorer? Profit, Power and A.I. in a Traumatized World.) The belief in the ultimate goodness and inevitability of technological advances is often presented as a binary choice: one either believes that technology will eventually solve every human problem, or one is anti-technology and anti-progress. 

 

Suggesting there are limits on technology is thus heretical: for believers, there are no limits. Let's set aside the false binary choice and ask: are there intrinsic limits to technology, and if so, are we approaching any of these limits? Technology cannot change the priorities and incentives of those who own it. Technology is only a tool, and people will use the tool to maximize their gain and optimize whatever incentives are embedded in the system. If chopping down irreplaceable tropical hardwood forests is optimized by the incentives to maximize profits, then that's how technology will be applied.

Technology cannot repeal the laws of thermodynamics. Taking a pencil and extending the declining cost of solar panels to zero doesn't negate the physical costs of mining and smelting the ore, shipping the metal to a factory, fabricating the photovoltaic cells, assembling and testing the panels, transporting them to the installation site on vehicles that are expensive to manufacture and maintain, installing the panels, wiring them to inverters and other equipment, testing the system onsite, and returning to perform maintenance and possibly repairs. Since the expected life of the installed panels is 20 to 25 years, the entire expense must be repeated, plus the additional expense of removing and recycling the worn out panels.

The cost of manufacturing, installing, maintaining, repairing and replacing the panels will never be close to zero due to the intrinsic costs in mining, smelting, refining, milling, transporting, assembling, testing, installing, maintaining and repairing the panels--not to mention getting rid of the toxic components when the panels must be replaced. Even if robots perform all the work, robots are themselves resource- and energy-intensive. Robots are less like a computer chip (with declining marginal costs), and more like a car, an immensely complex and costly assembly of intrinsically resource-intensive components, electronics, computer chips and millions of lines of software coding. Autos cost more than they did a generation ago for all these reasons. As cheap-to-access resources such as metals and minerals are depleted, the remaining ores are more costly to extract; regulations require additional safety features, and extremely complex software is increasingly prone to unanticipated errors. All of these realities apply to autos, robots and every other complex, resource-intensive machinery.

To become more capable, machines become more complex and therefore more expensive to manufacture, test, maintain and repair. In a very telling edit of reality, those extolling the idea that robots will perform all of humanity's work in the near future overlook these intrinsic costs, and overlook the expensive realities of fixing even simple machines when they fail or break down. Consider the following example: a clothes dryer. A clothes dryer is basically a metal box containing a heating element and a drum that spins. An electronic board with a digital display operates the machine''s cycles and controls. A dryer is thus far less complex than a robot, especially a robot that is capable of navigating the real world. The dryer control board is relatively simple: a handful of low-cost commodity computer chips and a few circuit boards. Despite the relative simplicity, these boards fail with alarming regularity. This is also true of the electronics in ranges, washing machines and other appliances. The replacement board for the dryer is one-third the cost of a new dryer. Labor adds another third, so replacing the board is two-thirds the cost of a new dryer. 

This reliance on cheap commodity electronic components results in the lifespan of modern appliances being measured in years rather than the decades of use formerly expected of purely mechanical appliances. The ultimate cost of adding features (the functional value of which is often very much in question) is far higher than the sticker price of the new dryer. In the real world, technology has increased costs and consumed more resources for extremely marginal improvements (for example, ten choices of drying cycles rather than five). Since advocates of robots claim robots will soon do all the work of humanity, consider the vast difference in cost between a robot that operates on a flat factory floor, repetitively attaching one part on a dryer assembly line, versus a robot that arrives onsite in the messy real world and is able to diagnose and repair a broken dryer. The factory model operates on a flat floor; the repair robot has to navigate an irregular driveway and multiple changes in floor level. It also has to be powerful enough to lift the dryer off the washer (in a stacked configuration), move it to open ground, remove the top, perform the diagnostics, remove the defective board, retrieve the new board, install it correctly, re-assemble the case, test the repaired machine, then lift it back onto the washer.

To repair a dryer onsite, the robot will have to have the strength of a small forklift and a very high level of dexterity and precision motor control. The cost of adding each of these capabilities to a robot is extremely non-trivial, and it won't ever drop to near-zero. Rather, it will only increase in cost even if commodity sensors and chips decline in price. The points of potential failure will proliferate with each new capability and each new level of complexity. Finally, note that the robot itself is prone to the same kinds of failures that it is designed to repair, but due to its much greater complexity, repairing the repair robot could cost an order of magnitude more than just having a knowledgeable human repair the dryer. I've performed this exact repair on my own dryer (only a few years old), and other similar repairs on other appliances: a name-brand range that turned on the oven at random times due to a failed low-cost commodity electronic sensor (less than two years old), and an expensive name-brand heavy-duty washing machine, less than a year old, that also failed due to a low-cost electronic sensor. Complex devices are only as reliable and durable as their lowest-quality component. This is as true of robots as it is for any other device. Yet even with me performing the labor, the parts for all these appliance repairs were expensive. Many less-handy people would have paid multiples of this already-high cost just for labor, while others would have bought a new appliance and had the (still-functional other than the one failed component) appliance hauled to the landfill--a perfect example of our wasteful and expensive Landfill Economy.

Consider the hundreds of components in a so-called smart home designed to save energy and offer more convenience by networking sensors, cameras, appliances, locksets, servers, controllers, Wi-Fi chips and software. The projected advances in security and convenience, many of which are questionable (e.g. just how much value is really added by a refrigerator that can order a quart of milk delivered once it detects a low level in the carton?) come at a very high cost in components, installation, service and repairs, because each of the hundreds of sensors, controllers, Wi-Fi chips are points of potential failure--not to mention the risk of unauthorized remote access.

How long will these components last? How long before they must be replaced to function with a new software system? How functional will the system be if even one controller fails? Given the extraordinary expense of installing and maintain this complex system and the marginal returns in convenience and security, how is this not another system destined for the landfill? I have yet to find a true believer in robots will do all the work of humanity who has ever performed even a single repair of a complex system or device caused by a failed board, chip, sensor or software bug - and done so not on a clean factory floor but in the unpredictable real world. I've also never yet met an avid believer in robots will do all the work of humanity who has designed, prototyped, tested, manufactured, sold, maintained and repaired robots capable of climbing (or landing) on a roof, diagnosing the cause of a failed solar array, replacing the failed part and cleaning the panels, all for a total system cost that's less than the relatively modest cost of a human repair person.

Technology can't fix what's broken, because what's broken is our entire system. For more on this heresy, please check out the first section of my new book (free PDF)

If you have an appetite for more heresy: read at your own risk....

Vaclav Smil: 'Growth must end. Our economist friends don't seem to realise that': "The economists will tell you we can decouple growth from material consumption, but that is total nonsense. The options are quite clear from the historical evidence. If you don't manage decline, then you succumb to it and you are gone."

Ronald Wright: Can We Still Dodge the Progress Trap?: Societies that failed were seduced and undone by what I called a progress trap: a chain of successes which, upon reaching a certain scale, leads to disaster. The dangers are seldom seen before it's too late. The jaws of a trap open slowly and invitingly, then snap closed fast.

Technocracy, Luddism, and the Environmental Crisis: The green movement needs to think about social power just as much as about technology.I believe the roots of the environmental crisis lie as much in the technocratic attitude towards nature expressed in Western cultures and technologies as in the capitalist drive for profit, growth, and accumulation. The power of industrial-capitalism is that its technological, social, and economic values mutually reinforce one another.

The Net Energy Pincer: Prior investment and psychological attachment prevent us from starting again from scratch. Instead, we employ ever more complex (and expensive) work-arounds in an attempt to make systems, institutions and infrastructure achieve things that they were not designed to do (such as keeping people alive into their 90s or providing 24/7 electricity using solar panels).

Climate Change and Technology (via LaserLefty): The question that isn't being asked: what will the adverse consequences of these (alternative energy) technologies be? Climate change and mass extinction weren't even imagined as consequences of the technologies that produced them. And again, a central drawback of the technologies being developed to address climate change is that they will adversely impact species loss and mass extinction. If the 'solution' to climate change means a catastrophic loss of biodiversity, what is to be gained by implementing it?

To decarbonize we must decomputerize: why we need a Luddite revolution: Big tech claims AI and digitization will bring a better future. But putting computers everywhere is bad for people and the planet. We are often sold a similar bill of goods: big tech companies talk incessantly about how AI and digitization will bring a better future. In the present tense, however, putting computers everywhere is bad for most people. It enables advertisers, employers and cops to exercise more control over us – in addition to helping heat the planet.

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ultimate-heresy-technology-cant-fix-whats-broken

Edited October 14, 2019 by Guest

[PE Scott + 563]

Theres a lot to digest here. 

More precisely, I think this should be titled AI/Robotics can't fix what's broken. Most if his argument seems to be against robots abilities to replace humans and increased complexity leading to an increased risk of failure. The author isn't wrong, but saying "never" is foolish in my opinion. 

In the meantime, there are all kinds of technology. Some are superficial and useless, others have huge impacts on society. Smart fridges don't solve many world problems, but advanced collision detection in vehicles surely has prevented some accidents or decreased the severity. 

I understand the author is trying to encourage people not to be complacent. However, I would argue technology has done more to improve things than otherwise. 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2019 by PE Scott

[PE Scott + 563]

Also, the ultimate heresy, in today's world, is denying climate armageddon in the next couple decades. So.....wrong from the start.

[Guest]

His huge drier scenario was a bit long winded, but in fairness if you click on the link there are a few more PDF links of his at the end, to the first few chapters of various things.

They undoubtedly will give you bit more info than ''this machine bad'' 

I'm just glad you realised there was an 'author'

Note - Day Trader is a day trader. 

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[PE Scott + 563]

13 minutes ago, DayTrader said:

I'm just glad you realised there was an 'author'

Lol, I don't think I'm going to mistake your sarcasm for the musings of a journalists

[Guest]

hahah well the odd person has said ''DT, I disagree with this bit..'' so I'm adding little disclaimers now 

[PE Scott + 563]

Looking through some of this guys other links, he makes some strong points. 

 

2 minutes ago, DayTrader said:

hahah well the odd person has said ''DT, I disagree with this bit..'' so I'm adding little disclaimers now 

It probably just means they like you! Like kids teasing each other on the playground

[Guest]

Ah nice, I didn't check other links out to be fair. Glad you liked them. 

Yeah maybe. 

Edited October 22, 2019 by Guest

[Guest]

On 10/14/2019 at 4:52 PM, PE Scott said:

I don't think I'm going to mistake your sarcasm for the musings of a journalists

You'd be surprised here ... 

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

The problem is not the technology, it is the growing reliance on technology with the associated decline in common sense and basic motor skills.

[Guest]

Exactly, thats what it will never fix, and will just get worse. 

Edited October 23, 2019 by Guest

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

On 10/14/2019 at 11:31 PM, PE Scott said:

Smart fridges don't solve many world problems

Sometimes it's nice to go back to basic science, low tech.

 

[PE Scott + 563]

35 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Sometimes it's nice to go back to basic science, low tech.

 

That looks like fun, good ol' low tech igloos. Still, people find this high tech version of clubbing seals much more acceptable!

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

5 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Sometimes it's nice to go back to basic science, low tech.

What surprises me is that clever entrepreneurs have not marketed low-tech replacement control panels that "drop in" for the originals, complete with mechanical rocker switches and simple relays, all good for twenty years.  Fix it once, good for life.  All I can think of is that there are barriers in the distribution channel that keep aftermarket controls from reaching the servicing industry. 

It is perfectly obvious that the control boards are designed and priced to fail just outside the warranty period, in order to encourage rapid replacement of the entire unit.  Making something uneconomical to fix is done deliberately in some manufacturing sectors. Even something as simple as a laptop battery is manufactured as a welded-shut assembly, although the only part that "wears out" is the little internal battery cells, which you can buy for perhaps a dollar each, if you can take that case apart and then put it back together.  So instead of supplying a two-piece case held together with little screws, so that you can get at it, they sonic weld the parts so that you cannot.  The consumer then has to go buy an entire new battery.  And, that is a deliberate design aspect of the case.   Shame on those manufacturers!

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

6 hours ago, PE Scott said:

That looks like fun, good ol' low tech igloos. Still, people find this high tech version of clubbing seals much more acceptable!

 

[David Jones + 84]

There's littel doubt that technology has improved our lives considerably. In fact, I'd say that the reason we consider ourselves more "civilized" than previous civilizations today is mainly because of our technology and the leverage it provides in terms of what we can afford to have making our lives less pressured and about survival. Take away our ability to advance technologically and there's a good chance we revert to the animals that lie within. This should serve as a warning to anyone who thinks it's a good idea to dumb down the population through mass manipulation (use of the broad reach of social media in combination with psychological adjustments through bots, advertising and other means to push people into specific mind frames for insance) for their personal benefit. The result has a good chance of being catastrophic for everyone including the instigators sooner or later.

As for issues with it, yes nothing is perfect but in many cases the issue isn't with the technology it's with us as a species. I get the impression that we already have most of the technology we would need to provide a comfortable life for everyone on this planet that wouldn't ruin what has already been achieved. Of course if the understanding of a "comfortable" and "high quality" lifestyle includes the idea that stuffing onself with garbage all day long and buying anything that catches your eye is a must, then it's likely not possible. That's not actually a high quality of life though, just perceived as determined by advertisement in many cases.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

On 10/19/2019 at 10:26 PM, Douglas Buckland said:

The problem is not the technology, it is the growing reliance on technology with the associated decline in common sense and basic motor skills.

How do you get a downvote on something that is brutally apparent to even the least discerning amongst us?

Must have been a Millennial ...😂

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

I see the opposite problem - throwing sociology at problems which have a purely technical solution.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/explosive-report-scientific-treason-u-s-traitors-driven-greed-betting-success-china/

TECHNOLOGY RUN RAMPANT

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

5 hours ago, ronwagn said:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/explosive-report-scientific-treason-u-s-traitors-driven-greed-betting-success-china/

TECHNOLOGY RUN RAMPANT

This was the treatment US always reserved for others nations, so welcome to the club. I am also rooting for China. Pax Americana must die, or everybody else will.

Incidentally, it was your very own Dr. Fauci, who seems to have financed the "function gain" research on coronaviruses in China with NSF grants. Very cool how Trump put him in charge of investigating the incident. What are the chances he is gonna find himself guilty, you reckon?

[ronwagn + 6,290]

On 10/19/2019 at 9:26 AM, Douglas Buckland said:

The problem is not the technology, it is the growing reliance on technology with the associated decline in common sense and basic motor skills.

To me, the biggest fear is that our networks of technology could easily be destroyed by purposeful EMP electromagnetic pulse technology. That would require people to live without credit cards, skills, communications, transportation, supply chains, etc. 

Imagine millions of high tech cars stranded on the roads of America and no new chips for months or years. Industry shut down for the same reason. Agriculture the same. Crime everywhere due to no food available. 

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

11 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

To me, the biggest fear is that our networks of technology could easily be destroyed by purposeful EMP electromagnetic pulse technology. That would require people to live without credit cards, skills, communications, transportation, supply chains, etc. 

Imagine millions of high tech cars stranded on the roads of America and no new chips for months or years. Industry shut down for the same reason. Agriculture the same. Crime everywhere due to no food available. 

This power EMP requires a nuke to produce. At which point, it is going to be the least of your problems

[ronwagn + 6,290]

1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

This power EMP requires a nuke to produce. At which point, it is going to be the least of your problems

There may be other ways or several small nuclear devices. No major visible damage and possibly no way to track the attacker. 

1 minute ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

This power EMP requires a nuke to produce. At which point, it is going to be the least of your problems

 

[Andrei Moutchkine + 828]

13 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

There may be other ways or several small nuclear devices. No major visible damage and possibly no way to track the attacker. 

 

Thermal neutrons, knocking out visual sensors and PV cells? Turns out, sufficiently large conventional explosion suffices. Here is what happens when they try to audit the inventory in an ammo depot in Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxQR8gKsErg

About 4:32 in, you can see a third wave of something else that arrives right after the sound and temporarily whiteouts the phone's video pickup,

[ronwagn + 6,290]

Very impressive explosions, I assume it was a military depot. Expensive fireworks! 

I am no engineer but I would think that a satellite equipped with the right electronic pulse weapons, properly directed, could do immense damage very quickly. More satellites or high altitude aircraft the better. (worse damage)