Rob Plant + 2,756 RP November 5, 2019 https://news.sky.com/story/the-rise-of-china-how-70-years-of-the-prc-is-shaping-all-our-futures-11821722 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin + 519 MS November 5, 2019 1. Yes 2. No Modern Chinese history is 1 big lie. Chinese still worship Mao Zedong: 1st in global eternal ranking of mass murderers, over 60 million casualties. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Emperor Hirohito are fighting for the distant 2nd place. If they can stand big lie about Mao, (every Chinese look at him on daily basis he is on Chinese banknotes) they can stand CCP forever, especially that, should be honest, CCP has stellar economic record. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 November 5, 2019 Huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 November 5, 2019 1. No 2. No Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 November 5, 2019 (edited) 1. They're not interested. 2. Yes, but not in your life time. Dynastic cycles take centuries to play out.  Edited November 5, 2019 by Zhong Lu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry Maddoux + 3,627 GM November 5, 2019 Read The Revenge of Geography by Robert D. Kaplan, and also The Accidental Superpower by Peter Zeihan. They will change your perception, no matter what it is now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin + 519 MS November 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Zhong Lu said: 1. They're not interested. 2. Yes, but not in your life time. Dynastic cycles take centuries to play out.  1. OK they are not interested, it will come by pure accident, when Chinese GDP will be 200% of United States. It would take long to mention all the current preparations: building military power projection capabilities, Belt and Road Initiative. 2. History tells us that it is not possible, no such precedence. Provide good shelter & food, prospects of decent, successful life and at the same time carry big sticks (cyber & real ones) and nobody ever dares to revolt. Please give 1 contra example. Dynastic cycles in China ended because of 1. Weak economy or 2. Foreign invasion or both. I studied in detail modern economic history of Poland: people were revolting only when meat and vodka prices were increased by Communist Party. Soviet Union break up was caused by inefficient economic model, low oil prices and bloated military. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 5, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Marcin said: 1. Yes 2. No Modern Chinese history is 1 big lie. Chinese still worship Mao Zedong: 1st in global eternal ranking of mass murderers, over 60 million casualties. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Emperor Hirohito are fighting for the distant 2nd place. If they can stand big lie about Mao, (every Chinese look at him on daily basis he is on Chinese banknotes) they can stand CCP forever, especially that, should be honest, CCP has stellar economic record. The Chinese people are like any other people. They always want more. More freedom is the main thing you can get after your material needs are met. Right now the Chinese economy is suffering and Hong Kong is setting a good example for them. Taiwan still stands free. How could the Soviet Union have possibly fallen? Internal dissent and passive resistance. Edited November 5, 2019 by ronwagn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Zhong Lu said: 1. They're not interested. 2. Yes, but not in your life time. Dynastic cycles take centuries to play out.  The Soviet Union only lasted decades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites