Tom Kirkman + 8,860 February 8, 2020 NYC Mayor De Blasio throwing darts at Virtue Signaling dartboard, aiming for the Darwin Awards at the bulls-eye. How many people in NYC will freeze in the coming winters due to a growing lack of Natural Gas pipelines? New York City to End All New Fossil Fuel Infrastructure, Including NatGas Pipes New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio didn’t mince words on his government’s position on oil and natural gas in a 2020 State of the City speech Thursday, proclaiming that the metropolis must “say goodbye to fossil fuels.” Under a plan laid out by the de Blasio administration, the Big Apple would stop using all fossil fuels, including natural gas, in its “large building systems” by 2040, with government buildings the first to undergo the proposed overhaul. The city also plans to issue an executive order stopping new fossil fuel infrastructure, including pipelines, power plant expansions and import terminals. ... ... “I know for a lot of us, and I was one of them, it was hard to take in the notion that we were just going to cancel everything that we've depended on for fossil fuels,” de Blasio said, according to a transcript of his address. “It kind of doesn't make sense when you first hear it, but it's something we have to do to survive. If we don't break this addiction to fossil fuels, it will break us. We have to overcome it. “And so, I'm announcing an executive order to end the creation of fossil fuel infrastructure in New York City once and for all.” The de Blasio administration’s plan is consistent with the New York State government’s well-documented antagonism toward fossil fuel development, a regulatory climate that has repeatedly stalled or thwarted efforts to build out pipeline infrastructure in a region that has tended to experience supply constraints and volatility during peak winter heating demand. ... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 February 8, 2020 So no new gas stations as well? Heck, let’s really get behind this and shut down all existing gas stations as well! He’ll likely backtrack when people start freezing to death....but who knows? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 February 8, 2020 Population reduction works and reduces overcrowding. Virtue Signaling Darwin Award in the making. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 February 8, 2020 As they say in the South, ‘You can’t fix stupid’. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 February 9, 2020 (edited) He is no different than the people touting climate "facts", end of the world deadlines, etc. Make it effective 2040! (when I'm no longer in office and no-doubt spending my windfall(s) in warmer climes.) Edited February 9, 2020 by Dan Warnick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat + 1,028 AV February 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Dan Warnick said: He is no different than the people touting climate "facts", end of the world deadlines, etc. Make it effective 2040! (when I'm no longer in office and no-doubt spending my windfall(s) in warmer climes.) Canada can supply vast quantities of Hydro for a start. Offshore windmills backed up by batteries as well. Solar. But I do think it stupid not to use NG for heating! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff February 9, 2020 22 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: As they say in the South, ‘You can’t fix stupid’. As they say in the North: you get what you vote for. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,323 RG February 9, 2020 All energy should pay for any negative health or environmental outcome in its price. May the cheapest source win. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 February 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Boat said: All energy should pay for any negative health or environmental outcome in its price. May the cheapest source win. Okay, which politically correct, unbiased, scientifically capable group of people will make the determination of the scope and definition of ‘negative health’ or ‘environmental outcome’? Who will determine cost? 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 19, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 10:00 AM, Boat said: All energy should pay for any negative health or environmental outcome in its price. May the cheapest source win. As long as I get to decide what is the negative health effect. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 February 19, 2020 On 2/8/2020 at 6:53 AM, Tom Kirkman said: NYC Mayor De Blasio throwing darts at Virtue Signaling dartboard, aiming for the Darwin Awards at the bulls-eye. How many people in NYC will freeze in the coming winters due to a growing lack of Natural Gas pipelines? New York City to End All New Fossil Fuel Infrastructure, Including NatGas Pipes New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio didn’t mince words on his government’s position on oil and natural gas in a 2020 State of the City speech Thursday, proclaiming that the metropolis must “say goodbye to fossil fuels.” Under a plan laid out by the de Blasio administration, the Big Apple would stop using all fossil fuels, including natural gas, in its “large building systems” by 2040, with government buildings the first to undergo the proposed overhaul. The city also plans to issue an executive order stopping new fossil fuel infrastructure, including pipelines, power plant expansions and import terminals. ... ... “I know for a lot of us, and I was one of them, it was hard to take in the notion that we were just going to cancel everything that we've depended on for fossil fuels,” de Blasio said, according to a transcript of his address. “It kind of doesn't make sense when you first hear it, but it's something we have to do to survive. If we don't break this addiction to fossil fuels, it will break us. We have to overcome it. “And so, I'm announcing an executive order to end the creation of fossil fuel infrastructure in New York City once and for all.” The de Blasio administration’s plan is consistent with the New York State government’s well-documented antagonism toward fossil fuel development, a regulatory climate that has repeatedly stalled or thwarted efforts to build out pipeline infrastructure in a region that has tended to experience supply constraints and volatility during peak winter heating demand. ... I expect there are details provided as to how it happens, or is it a Trudeau-ism that if you make a law then it will happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,323 RG February 19, 2020 Here are some of NYC plans to spend 14 billion with a few regulation changes. https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/04/22/nycs-green-new-deal-everything-you-need-to-know/ I like the idea of not allowing buildings to be inefficient. To bad it didn’t happen 30 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Boat said: Here are some of NYC plans to spend 14 billion with a few regulation changes. https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/04/22/nycs-green-new-deal-everything-you-need-to-know/ I like the idea of not allowing buildings to be inefficient. To bad it didn’t happen 30 years ago. From the article you linked: For Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, however, one of the most exciting aspects of the Green New Deal is the city phasing out its reliance on processed meat and reducing its purchasing of beef by 50 percent. “I am particularly thrilled that this city has taken up our mantle to reduce our overconsumption of meat through the phasing out of processed meat purchasing and the reduction of beef purchasing,” Adams said. “Make no mistake, addressing the carbon-intensive activity of meat production is a sustainable solution for the health of our bodies and our planet alike.” ====================== Green New Deal is ghastly and ruinous. Socialism, mandated by government officials, leading to economic catastrophe and a severe reduction of human rights and civil liberties, in the name of "saving the planet". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 February 19, 2020 I guess the city government now feels entitled to determine the diet of those who live in the city. Does anyone else feel that perhaps this is over-reaching their mandate? Those that eventually freeze to death in those mild Mew York winter conditions won’t have to worry about it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrs + 893 WS February 19, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 4:31 AM, frankfurter said: As they say in the North: you get what you vote for. You should read Lysander Spooner on that subject. Only the winners get what they voted for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites