Cure for ChinaVirus/Coronavirus/Clovid 19 ?

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0156-0

• Correspondence
• Open Access
• Published: 18 March 2020

Hydroxychloroquine, a less toxic derivative of chloroquine, is effective in inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 infection in vitro

• Jia Liu, 
• Ruiyuan Cao, 
• Mingyue Xu, 
• Xi Wang, 
• Huanyu Zhang, 
• Hengrui Hu, 
• Yufeng Li, 
• Zhihong Hu, 
• Wu Zhong & 
• Manli Wang 

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Covid19 turning point for Beijing

Unsurprising that every name on that paper is Chinese. 

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My Coronavirus Topic https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MXY8T0j7k0oUBsHW4BfjJM__DRIyzqrDf_FSlV4hHpw/edit#heading=h.ekm7iqppd2xv 

Some of my picks. 

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28 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Covid19 turning point for Beijing

Unsurprising that every name on that paper is Chinese. 

It either works or it doesn't. Viruses have never had much concern for nationality, race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation.

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

Covid19 turning point for Beijing

Unsurprising that every name on that paper is Chinese. 

Of course an authoritarian regime like China will use propaganda to push their agenda, what do you expect?

That being said, for better or worse, I suspect the Coronavirus will help the communist party, as they seem to have successfully waged a "people's war" of sorts to contain the coronavirus. At least that's how it's being portrayed internally. That may quell a lot of simmering dissent that was starting to happen.

I think coming out of this, economically, too many countries may rely on China to help boost themselves out of a global recession.

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-authorities-require-government-offices-to-destroy-data-related-to-coronavirus-outbreak_3257797.html

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@ronwagn while I remain deeply skeptical of any and all claims of cures for Covid-19, this may interest you and others who are pursuing these claims.  PDF attached at the bottom of this comment.  You are following this much more than I am.

Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial

This is the paper that was mentioned on Tucker Carlson.

Apparently, full peer reviewed study has been released by Didier Raoult MD, PhD 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view?usp=sharing

 

Hydroxychloroquine_and_azithromycin_as_a_treatment_of_COVID_19.pdf

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13 hours ago, surrept33 said:

Of course an authoritarian regime like China will use propaganda to push their agenda, what do you expect?

That being said, for better or worse, I suspect the Coronavirus will help the communist party, as they seem to have successfully waged a "people's war" of sorts to contain the coronavirus. At least that's how it's being portrayed internally. That may quell a lot of simmering dissent that was starting to happen.

I think coming out of this, economically, too many countries may rely on China to help boost themselves out of a global recession.

Hopefully they are wiser than that. 

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7 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

@ronwagn while I remain deeply skeptical of any and all claims of cures for Covid-19, this may interest you and others who are pursuing these claims.  PDF attached at the bottom of this comment.  You are following this much more than I am.

Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial

This is the paper that was mentioned on Tucker Carlson.

Apparently, full peer reviewed study has been released by Didier Raoult MD, PhD 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view?usp=sharing

 

Hydroxychloroquine_and_azithromycin_as_a_treatment_of_COVID_19.pdf 451.95 kB · 5 downloads

Suppliers https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/azithromycin.html

https://www.pharmacompass.com/listed-active-pharmaceutical-ingredients/hydroxychloroquine-sulfate

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7 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

@ronwagn while I remain deeply skeptical of any and all claims of cures for Covid-19, this may interest you and others who are pursuing these claims.  PDF attached at the bottom of this comment.  You are following this much more than I am.

Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial

This is the paper that was mentioned on Tucker Carlson.

Apparently, full peer reviewed study has been released by Didier Raoult MD, PhD 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view?usp=sharing

 

Hydroxychloroquine_and_azithromycin_as_a_treatment_of_COVID_19.pdf 451.95 kB · 5 downloads

Next we'll find the Chinese have cornered the world supply of chloroquine.

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14 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

It either works or it doesn't. Viruses have never had much concern for nationality, race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation.

You missed the point. China created this mess and now China is scrambling to look like the hero. They'll pay off their useful idiots in the press and the easily programmed will play along with the dance music and like Enthalpic, against all logic and reason blame Trump. 

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11 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

You missed the point. China created this mess and now China is scrambling to look like the hero. They'll pay off their useful idiots in the press and the easily programmed will play along with the dance music and like Enthalpic, against all logic and reason blame Trump. 

Mentioning me in every post, so cute.

Blaming China for everything is so much more logical.

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Edited March 19, 2020 by Enthalpic

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21 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Next we'll find the Chinese have cornered the world supply of chloroquine.

Certainly won't be made in the USA!

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

You missed the point. China created this mess and now China is scrambling to look like the hero. They'll pay off their useful idiots in the press and the easily programmed will play along with the dance music and like Enthalpic, against all logic and reason blame Trump. 

The idea that 'China created this mess' is a bit excessive. Earlier corona virus infections originated from Hong Kong or the Middle East, and they spread rapidly until the public was aware of it and able to react. Corona viruses are everywhere, including various animal populations, so they can arise at any time from a huge population of sources. Chinese public health leaves a bit to be desired, but this is just as true in many other parts of the world.

If China is at the epicenter then one could reasonably expect Chinese scientists would be working furiously to contain it. Chinese researchers aren't the only ones that try to grab credit from anywhere they can.

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16 minutes ago, Meredith Poor said:

The idea that 'China created this mess' is a bit excessive. Earlier corona virus infections originated from Hong Kong or the Middle East, and they spread rapidly until the public was aware of it and able to react. Corona viruses are everywhere, including various animal populations, so they can arise at any time from a huge population of sources. Chinese public health leaves a bit to be desired, but this is just as true in many other parts of the world.

If China is at the epicenter then one could reasonably expect Chinese scientists would be working furiously to contain it. Chinese researchers aren't the only ones that try to grab credit from anywhere they can.

No question China created this mess. They knew they had a crisis and they arrested the doctors trying to warn people about it. They allowed 5 million people to go to parts unknown, with an unknown percentage already infected. I'm not even going to get into the level 4 bio lab that just happened to be where this highly unusual virus originated, nor the fact that it's gone radio silent since the plague went out, even though there's no one better situated to deal with this than they are. The dog that didn't bark? Those researchers don't seem to be trying to "grab credit". Wonder why? 

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1 hour ago, Meredith Poor said:

The idea that 'China created this mess' is a bit excessive. Earlier corona virus infections originated from Hong Kong or the Middle East, and they spread rapidly until the public was aware of it and able to react. Corona viruses are everywhere, including various animal populations, so they can arise at any time from a huge population of sources. Chinese public health leaves a bit to be desired, but this is just as true in many other parts of the world.

If China is at the epicenter then one could reasonably expect Chinese scientists would be working furiously to contain it. Chinese researchers aren't the only ones that try to grab credit from anywhere they can.

Entirely a Chinese creation.. Their economy contributed a negative $20 trillion to the global economy this year as their lying and destruction of data and evidence in the Covid 19 outbreak from its first days through an entire month of expansion and continuing to this date at an accelerated rate, has caused the entire world a shutdown of travel and hospitality, shutdown of retail, an enormous hospital bill, and a huge take down of industrial production around the world, and a need for an enormous expansion of long term credit that will hamper these industries for a decade. 

The value to the world of the CCP is as a deadly threat, and their economic contribution of the past 20 years has been ENTIRELY undone in these two - three months. The world is now better off bypassing China completely. They have demonstrated what the value of the CCP is to the world. Until the CCP  is gone, I think China is off the industrial map. Europe and the US will eventually figure out how to get China to pay for what the CCP did in hiding and promoting the spread of the virus. They should be eliminated from all international organization meetings till the CCP dissolves. They are a mortal danger to humanity. 

There is absolutely no excess in the idea that this is a China created problem. It is their creation entirely, from constructing the virus, releasing it due to lax safety protocols and then hiding the contagion internally and externally as it was spreading throughout the world by unsuspecting Chinese travelers.

 

On a separate note, I think that the combination of a coming stimulus covid 19 stimulus measures, huge credit and monetary expansion from banks and backed up by the Fed is going to ignite an enormous economic rally out of the treatment protocol with HCQ+azithromycin allowing the fast but gradual resumption of normalcy. 

The big economic demand now is for substitution for Chinese industrial capacity. China will be like medieval maps, "there be dragons here" territory. 

Early signs of this are a huge rally in the yield curve (which is a double edged sword as it can also indicate the onset of a long term recession). Second step will be the end of the dollar rally. The Bloomberg dollar index is now nearing 10% above its low post the unwind of the $1-2 Trillion carry trade out of the Yen Euro and Swissie. 

Follow the treasury and dollar exchange markets for first signs of the markets seeing recovery ahead as the mad dash for dollar cash will subside as soon as they sense a viable broadly applicable treatment available for the disease. 

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

 

No question China created this mess. They knew they had a crisis and they arrested the doctors trying to warn people about it. They allowed 5 million people to go to parts unknown, with an unknown percentage already infected. I'm not even going to get into the level 4 bio lab that just happened to be where this highly unusual virus originated, nor the fact that it's gone radio silent since the plague went out, even though there's no one better situated to deal with this than they are. The dog that didn't bark? Those researchers don't seem to be trying to "grab credit". Wonder why? 

Anyone speculating on the 'Level 4 lab' should read this: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-03/sri-tcc031720.php

 

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19 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

It either works or it doesn't. Viruses have never had much concern for nationality, race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation.

So, are you intentionally missing the point here? It may be reasonable to assume that the inhibitor is a fake, since its place of origin has special interests on the matter. 

Edited March 19, 2020 by KeyboardWarrior

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The Coronavirus starting in the Wuhan virus lab is as conspiracy theoretical as blaming it on US military visits in Wuhan.

After looking at this footage of a typical Chinese "wet market", I'm not surprised that zoonotic viruses could originate fairly easily from within China (from 60 Minutes Australia). It isn't the only way that such virii can be transmitted (see MERS in Saudi Arabia, or recent Nipah virus outbreaks in India), but for risk reasons, the practice needs to be clamped down on because it seems like it is a hotbed for transmission of such pathogens.

 

There is plenty to blame the Chinese govenrment about, including the initial response, and lax rules on wet markets like the above.

Edited March 19, 2020 by surrept33

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7 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Certainly won't be made in the USA!

That's about to change

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html Great map. Note the Northeast is the biggest hot spot. 

 

Edited March 20, 2020 by ronwagn

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On 3/19/2020 at 11:59 AM, surrept33 said:

Of course an authoritarian regime like China will use propaganda to push their agenda, what do you expect?

That being said, for better or worse, I suspect the Coronavirus will help the communist party, as they seem to have successfully waged a "people's war" of sorts to contain the coronavirus. At least that's how it's being portrayed internally. That may quell a lot of simmering dissent that was starting to happen.

I think coming out of this, economically, too many countries may rely on China to help boost themselves out of a global recession.

This is a double edged sword. The Communist Party may try to present this as a ‘successfully waged People’s War’, but that assumes that the People ‘drink the Kool Aid’ and somehow agree to ignore the deaths, sickness, quarantines, lack of timely response, economic upheaval and loss of face internationally. To assume that all the Chinese people blindly follow the CCP, when not in public, is silly.

To depend on China to ‘boost themselves out of global recession’ is also a stretch. China will first boost THEMSELVES out of recession and worry about others later. They will begin by calling in all their BRI markers, at a time when others can’t afford to honor them. Any goodwill will disappear. Those countries which were ‘threatened’ by supply chain bottlenecks in China will either move their supply chain components out of China or create redundant supply chains.

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Inside an Italian hospital in Bergamo

scary stuff
 

https://apple.news/AHpOw279_RAW8Jfp3C3DyBQ

 

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Very useful  site showing live statistics

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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3 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Very useful  site showing live statistics

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I've been following this site, with a focus on "cases which had an outcome" and the mortality rate has steadily been climbing in that section. Now up to 10%.