Tom Kirkman + 8,860 April 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, Marcin2 said: Maybe I should just shut up and do not comment about this disgusting parody, we do have enough troubles with this lockdown for the morons (me?) to disturb fun threads like this. But honestly, I have never met parody with the real movie of Hitlers speech by Hitler not by an actor and I like Monty Python sort of humour very much. Do you know any more movies like Blazing Saddles or Life of Brian, maybe there are some I have not watched yet. My eyes are glazing over. Clearly, you are offended. So far, I still see no reason to remove a parody simply because you are offended. Clearly, you have zero clue that there is entire sub-category of humor, parodies of Hitler's lunatic rants. Lemme help you out here: https://m.youtube.com/user/hitlerrantsparodies The best way to undermine dictators is to mock them. Here is one of my favorite quotes from the early days of the internet, when I used to post on a.r.s. (yep, I'm an old fart). Much of Usenet was a precursor to today's irreverent chan forums such as 4chan's /pol/ (politically incorrect). https://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/fun/970509-snjones.txt Subject: Re: Ridicule as an anti-Scn weapon Date: 09 May 1997 00:00:00 GMT From: Stephen Jones <snjones@ix.netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology In article <3372AFA5.14EE@worldnet.att.net>, Joe Harrington <joeharr@worldnet.att.net> wrote: <snip> >Ridicule is most likely a source of self-amusement for the people who >engage in it and it probably has some internal therapeutic value for >them. But generally I don't think it is an effective method of bringing >about reform or social changes as it usually causes alienation and >hardens the resolve of the people who are being subjected to it. Agreed that ridicule can be a source of self-amusement. I'd hate to think that other jokers and degraders are doing so with a grim determination. I also see how ridicule can cause alienation and harden resolve. It doesn't always, but it can. What I do not agree with is your assessment of ridicule's effectiveness in furthering reform or fostering social change. Ridicule can't be beat when it comes to kicking the bejeezus out of an oppressive, idiotic or just plain thoughtless belief/system, regardless if that belief is political, social or spiritual. Besides, it can be fun...unless the ridicule is directed towards the spiritual in which case it is taboo and very bad manners so please don't do it. A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it pulled-up to the curb. Who would have thought such a tiny car could contain so many infectious and revolutionary guffaws? Satires, parodies, blue humor, pants to the ground ass-wavings, tea-dumping, Modest Proposal submiting, 7 dirty word spewing, flag burning, frankly impolite, just plain rude and improper expressions of ridicule have either ignited reform, fanned the flames or kicked the corpse to make sure it was dead. >And when it is done in public, I don't think most people look >favorably on the people engaging in it as ridicule is generally >considered offensive. But sometimes it is supposed to be offensive. Sure, sometimes it's just dumb and sometimes it backfires, HELLO! Mikesmith3, Woody and the rest of the ars handlers from the Jokers/Degraders/Copyright terrorists and degraded wog beings of ARS. Ridicule can be just mean and ugly but it is also capable of greater things. Stephen Jones >Joe 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP April 3, 2020 (edited) Edited April 3, 2020 by Rob Plant 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Almost all humour of this nature is parodying or mocking the sinister NOT promoting it. I fail to understand how you dont see that! It depends on the mindset. Persons with either a statist, an authoritarian, or a collectivist mindset find satire, especially of statist parodies, deeply offensive. After all, the writer of such parodies is attacking the absurdities of the collectivist institution, and that is not just anathema, it is the ultimate insult to the State. The more pungent aspect is thus: can the actors of the State, typically the Legislature (or the Politburo, or the delegates to the Reichstag) grasp that the parody highlights and underlines the internal dynamics where what is being promoted as the general welfare instead acts to entrench and enrich the entrenched power groups? Or the failings of the collective? If it can, then there is hope for the society and the State. If not, then I would argue that the individuals are already suppressed, and the State is the keeper of all non-delegated powers. And that, my friends, is a bad omen. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 April 3, 2020 (edited) @Marcin2 Have you seen Clayton Bigsby, the World’s Only Black White Supremacist. - How do we perceive this, I would love to hear your argument. His material is very clever as he is clearly being racist to white peckerwood cracker rednecks and inbreds and Chanks, but guess who's laughing both the coloured and honkies. Edited April 3, 2020 by James Regan Not sure if Xi would laugh, I did a LOT 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 April 4, 2020 If you want to be a victim, you will become one. This pushback against parody and comedy is simply the need to be a victim. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 April 4, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said: If you want to be a victim, you will become one. This pushback against parody and comedy is simply the need to be a victim. "Have you seen my ratings?" meme with trump standing over body bags... super funny. You guys even created a "disorder" to protect your feelings from those who disagree with you. Edited April 4, 2020 by Enthalpic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 April 4, 2020 As far as I can tell from the responses, the answer to the opening question of this thread, is Marcin! Ta-da! Is there a prize? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Enthalpic said: "Have you seen my ratings?" meme with trump standing over body bags... super funny. You guys even created a "disorder" to protect your feelings from those who disagree with you. “...super funny”, what are you, 14 years old? I am betting that in conversation with another human being, you are incapable of constructing a sentence without including the word ‘like’.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 April 4, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said: ...super funny”, what are you, 14 years old? I am betting that in conversation with another human being, you are incapable of constructing a sentence without including the word ‘like’.... Looking for a reason to be offended? " simply the need to be a victim." One-side can't take the heat.... fossil humans. He literally was bragging about his numbers while presiding over the over the greatest clusterf* of almost all time. Edited April 4, 2020 by Enthalpic 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Enthalpic said: You guys even created a "disorder" to protect your feelings from those who disagree with you. You mean like "deplorables"? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Dan Warnick said: Ta-da! Is there a prize? You win a politically incorrect Participation Prize, sure to annoy many people. and just to annoy the China spammers ... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 April 4, 2020 (edited) Humour is the perception based on your imagination and "Imaginary thoughts only exist in the imagination of the Imaginer and ultimately who gives a $#$% anyway" - Frank Zappa- Watermelon in Easter Hay Edited April 4, 2020 by James Regan 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 April 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, James Regan said: Frank Zappa- Watermelon in Easter Hay That meandering guitar work is delicious. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 April 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said: That meandering guitar work is delicious. Tom as an off shoot let's dive into an "imaginary delicious" rabbit hole - Before Frank Zappa died he asked his son Dweezil to never play the song live, eventually he did check out the first time he played it in London, imagine playing this technically while in tears. Amazing..... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 April 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: and just to annoy the China spammers ... Apologies, I was wrong. China has zero new cases. Statistical proof: (The small text in the lower right says P.S. USA Bad) 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said: Apologies, I was wrong. China has zero new cases. Statistical proof: (The small text in the lower right says P.S. USA Bad) I just knew that there was definitive proof for the numbers out of China! 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyboardWarrior + 527 April 5, 2020 Gotta say, it's these people touting the death of the oil industry and the rise of wind + solar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyboardWarrior + 527 April 5, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 9:21 PM, Enthalpic said: You guys even created a "disorder" to protect your feelings from those who disagree with you. Are you sure about that? You think we're the ones with overly emotional responses to people we disagree with? Strange, because Twitter seems to only ban accounts on one side of the spectrum. To state one example. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 April 5, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: Are you sure about that? You think we're the ones with overly emotional responses to people we disagree with? Strange, because Twitter seems to only ban accounts on one side of the spectrum. To state one example. No, see above. We have a name for low-quality people haha "You mean like "deplorables"? TigerKings... I love US reality TV - those moronic, animal-cruelty gun nuts certainly would vote trump. Edited April 5, 2020 by Enthalpic 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 April 5, 2020 Your diplomat to the world. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enthalpic + 1,496 April 5, 2020 trump Exotic 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 April 5, 2020 (edited) Edited April 5, 2020 by specinho 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites