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Must watch video from kirkman post.

Side Note: U.S. FCC to vote on banning China Telecom from U.S. next week. just the start

再见,  "zài jiàn." 

 

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37 minutes ago, BLA said:

From a kirkman post.

The Chinese knew all along

 

I tend to agree with him

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The Chinese told us about the Virus on 12/31/19. The Chinese then quarantined 50M (almost an entire province) on 1/23/20. This quarantine was unprecedented in the entire human history, and that was more than TWO MONTHS ago. The country isolated itself so much that we (and all other countries) had to charter private flights to get our people out.

What more of hint do we need from the Chinese? Do we need the Chinese to nuke the entire province where Wuhan is to show us how serious this virus is? We all know politics is BS (whether that's coming from our gov, their gov, the UN, the WHO, etc), but at least we should observe that they DID, and the Chinese certainly was not denying/hiding the 50M quarantine. The South Koreans and Japanese followed suit immediately and now things are under control there. Today, an infected New Yorker can still legally and easily drive out, or fly out, of Manhattan to infect others. Are you seeing any plan to isolate Manhattan and Long Island (which are rather easy to do) or to close off our borders? Can you imagine a situation when we would stop all flights such that even the immigrants here cannot leave the country? I think not. 

Our blood is on our hands and no one else's, and if we play the blame game, we will never learn. Don't get me wrong -- I like Trump, and I am fine with him playing some politics at this time. But I expect more from the people here, and they should be able to see through the BS and find real solutions.

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12 hours ago, PTakacs said:

Our blood is on our hands and no one else's

Wrong. If you're not a CCP plant, open your eyes. If Huang Yanling had been carelessly infected with a lethal virus in any western country, the outbreak would have been immediately contained. Public health resources, scientists, doctors and experts from all over the world would have sprung into action immediately. Information and data sharing would have been widespread and immediate.

The CCP response? Nothing of the sort. Globally, every infected person, every person with a loved one who has died, every person who has lost their job, every person suffering from anxiety and stress, every person who has lost their freedom ... they can all correctly blame the CCP. This is on them. There is a terrifying global price being paid for their dystopian lack of freedoms.

How we deal with the after-effects of the CCP's maliciously botched response is on us.

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Wrong. If you're not a CCP plant, open your eyes. If Huang Yanling had been carelessly infected with a lethal virus in any western country, the outbreak would have been immediately contained. Public health resources, scientists, doctors and experts from all over the world would have sprung into action immediately. Information and data sharing would have been widespread and immediate.

The CCP response? Nothing of the sort. Globally, every infected person, every person with a loved one who has died, every person who has lost their job, every person suffering from anxiety and stress, every person who has lost their freedom ... they can all correctly blame the CCP. This is on them. There is a terrifying global price being paid for their dystopian lack of freedoms.

How we deal with the after-effects of the CCP's maliciously botched response is on us.

"If Huang Yanling had been carelessly infected with a lethal virus in any western country, the outbreak would have been immediately contained." -- not trying to defend CCP, but my distrust of all governments (and things like the UN and WHO) tells me this is not true at all -- we have not been able to contain this virus here ourselves, and when was the last time we (the US or West in general) successfully contained a significant virus? Think Mad Cow, H1N1, AIDS, etc. 

I was there during the AIDS pandemic, and the confusion and misdirection at the time was pathetic, but only deemed so AFTER we realized what we had. During the crisis every nation/agency/organization was mostly blind. 

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17 minutes ago, TooSteep said:

If you're not a CCP plant, open your eyes.

My eyes are wide open, more so than many others' -- I sold most of my stock in late January, best judgment I have made in my LIFE! (alas I entered the market again a bit too soon -- didn't realize the market was going to be that violent).

Again, I only look at what others do, and the 50M quarantine was a no-brainer to me. It should have been a no-brainer to our gov as well. 

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50 millions  is about 14% of the US population but it is only around 3% of the China population. And in the US, it is the state governor decides for his state while in China General Secretary made decision for the lock down (the same with the concept of sanctuary cities and Trump could not fire anyone for that). And the one who makes decision is responsible for the consequences. At country level, US President did make a decision on travel ban from China and later on, Europe on time, or the deaths number in US will be as much as Italia+Spain+France+UK...  You may have uncertainty of +-20% but not +-500%, especially when Chinese Gov can control its citizens so well on other matters.

 

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What do you mean you didn't realize the market was going to be that violent.  China quarantined 50m.  Wasn't that a no-brainer?  What more did you need Mr Monday morning QB?

China lied, WHO parroted China and exposed the world to the virus.  Period!  Stop apologizing for them.

Watch the video??  China makes 50% of masks and protective wear yet they bought up billions of masks and millions of protective wear from outside China.  They did this for a virus that was not transmissible from person to person or from surfaces??  Wake up!

You can't seriously be comparing AIDS with any airborne contagion?  Maybe you are?  After all, your eyes are open wider than many others.  🤥

     

 

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3 hours ago, Bob D said:

What do you mean you didn't realize the market was going to be that violent.  China quarantined 50m.  Wasn't that a no-brainer?  What more did you need Mr Monday morning QB?

China lied, WHO parroted China and exposed the world to the virus.  Period!  Stop apologizing for them.

Watch the video??  China makes 50% of masks and protective wear yet they bought up billions of masks and millions of protective wear from outside China.  They did this for a virus that was not transmissible from person to person or from surfaces??  Wake up!

You can't seriously be comparing AIDS with any airborne contagion?  Maybe you are?  After all, your eyes are open wider than many others.  🤥

     

 

It was a no-brainer to sell the stock, which I did. But to have historic drops with VIX reaching historical highs? I didn't anticipate that (for example, I sold TVIX when it reached $500, half of its ultimate high). I am not the god of trading. 

Where did I apologize for China? My  point is that if people still argue over who said what at what time, instead of who did what at what time, we will never learn. Look at Taiwan -- it is only miles away from China and had millions returning from China in January. But its infection rate and death count were much lower than ours. Taiwan didn't have better info than we did, but it acted promptly after the Chinese lock down -- they observed what the Chinese did. 

As to masks, you are kidding right? China has 1.3B people. If everyone changes masks once a day, how many do they need if they want to last, say, a month? Remember that the mask-making factories would not be functioning at full capacity, if at all, during a lock down. Btw, isn't it in our best interest that China contain this virus with the help of lots of masks? I mean, what's the alternative, China having not enough masks in January? Would that do us any good? Again, I look at actual actions, and them buying lots of masks and doing the lock down are at least better than them not buying masks and not doing the lock down.

Let me ask you this, on 1/23/20, on the one hand you had China/WHO saying whatever they were saying at that time, and on the other hand China had just locked down 50M people, what's your conclusion as to how serious the virus is? Are you really going to take words from gov/political organizations over actual actions? Taiwan arrived at the right conclusion at the time, so did South Korea, Japan, and Singapore, while we did not. Hence the divergent results, and additional people died because of the decisions made. It is as simple as that. Going back to argue, oh, China/WHO said this and that in early January, is not doing us any good. In fact, as we are still fighting the virus, it is a waste of valuable time.

As to AIDS, I believe you just proved my point: we knew exactly how it is transmitted, and because of its manner of transmission it should be easier to contain than this virus, but did we contain it? We actually wasted YEARS at the time arguing over, by now we know, nonsense. 

 

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8 hours ago, TooSteep said:

Wrong. If you're not a CCP plant, open your eyes. If Huang Yanling had been carelessly infected with a lethal virus in any western country, the outbreak would have been immediately contained. Public health resources, scientists, doctors and experts from all over the world would have sprung into action immediately. Information and data sharing would have been widespread and immediate.

The CCP response? Nothing of the sort. Globally, every infected person, every person with a loved one who has died, every person who has lost their job, every person suffering from anxiety and stress, every person who has lost their freedom ... they can all correctly blame the CCP. This is on them. There is a terrifying global price being paid for their dystopian lack of freedoms.

How we deal with the after-effects of the CCP's maliciously botched response is on us.

It was contained in China. Even before it was contained the WHO declared a global health emergency. As I recall, some suggested that covid-19 was similar to the flu.

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It's really sad to see the USA degrading from a position of a leader who provides solutions to someone who botches up the preparation and then throw blame around. Chinese wanted to sweep it under the carpet, but once they understood the proportions, they correctly informed the WHO, provided DNA of the virus and spared no effort to contain it. 

Trump's administration wasted half of January, February and March, doing nothing, drifting from excuse to excuse (it's a flu, a few Chinese have it, no big deal, we have it under control). The result is collapsed health care system and lots of unnecessary deaths. 

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4 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

It's really sad to see the USA degrading from a position of a leader who provides solutions to someone who botches up the preparation and then throw blame around. Chinese wanted to sweep it under the carpet, but once they understood the proportions, they correctly informed the WHO, provided DNA of the virus and spared no effort to contain it. 

Trump's administration wasted half of January, February and March, doing nothing, drifting from excuse to excuse (it's a flu, a few Chinese have it, no big deal, we have it under control). The result is collapsed health care system and lots of unnecessary deaths. 

Here is a link that counters your generally pro - CCP / anti-Trump comments.  I fully expect you will strongly disagree.  No problem.  I *encourage* dissent.  And I *encourage* questioning authority.  And I *encourage* everyone to ignore CNN as deliberate disinformation.

Copying the link's text, as I suspect you will not click on the link.

TIMELINE: THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S DECISIVE ACTIONS TO COMBAT THE CORONAVIRUS

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While Democrats play politics, the Trump Administration is working tirelessly to combat the coronavirus and provide economic relief to affected  Americans:

  • President Trump is taking concrete actions to rapidly expand testing and guarantee any American can get tested for coronavirus for free.
     
  • President Trump is taking decisive action to make sure U.S. hospitals have the resources they need to mobilize against the coronavirus.
     
  • President Trump instituted unprecedented travel bans to slow the spread of coronavirus and keep Americans safe.
     
  • President Trump is taking critical steps to shore up the U.S. economy and help Americans economically impacted by the coronavirus.

Check out the comprehensive timeline below. 

Please visit coronavirus.gov for up-to-date information on the U.S. Government's coronavirus response.

December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.

January 3: CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus.

January 5: CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak,

January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.

January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.

January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.

January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.

January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.

January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.

January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.

January 27: President Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.

January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.

January 27: The White House Coronavirus Task Force started meeting to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President. 

January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President. 

January 31: The Trump Administration:

  • Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
     
  • Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
     
  • Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.

February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.

February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.

February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.

February 7: President Trump told reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus. 

February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.

February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.

February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.

February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.

February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.

February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.

February 22: A WHO team of international experts arrives in Wuhan, China.

February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.

February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.

February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

February 29: The Trump Administration:

  • Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.
     
  • Barred all travel to Iran.
     
  • Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.

March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.

March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.

March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions.

March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus.

March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.

March 11: President Trump:

  • Announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days.
     
  • Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on congress to increase this fund by $50 billion.
     
  • Directed the Treasury Department to defer tax payments for affected individuals & businesses, & provide $200 billion in “additional liquidity.”
     
  • Met with American bankers at the White House to discuss coronavirus.

March 13: President Trump declared a national emergency in order to access $42 billion in existing funds to combat the coronavirus.

March 13: President Trump announced:

  • Public-private partnerships to open up drive-through testing collection sites.
     
  • A pause on interest payments on federal student loans.
     
  • An order to the Department of Energy to purchase oil for the strategic petroleum reserve.

March 13: The Food & Drug Administration:

  • Granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits.
     
  • Issued an emergency approval to Thermo Fisher for a coronavirus test within 24 hours of receiving the request.

March 13: HHS announced funding for the development of two new rapid diagnostic tests, which would be able to detect coronavirus in approximately 1 hour.

March 14: The Coronavirus Relief Bill passed the House of Representatives.

March 14: The Trump Administration announced the European travel ban will extend to the UK and Ireland.

March 15: President Trump held a phone call with over two dozen grocery store executives to discuss on-going demand for food and other supplies.

March 15: HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week.

March 15: Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources.

March 15: All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus.

March 16: President Trump:

  • Held a tele-conference with governors to discuss coronavirus preparedness and response.
     
  • Participated in a call with G7 leaders who committed to increasing coordination in response to the coronavirus and restoring global economic confidence.
     
  • Announced that the first potential vaccine for coronavirus has entered a phase one trial in a record amount of time.
     
  • Announced “15 days to slow the spread” coronavirus guidance.

March 16: The FDA announced it was empowering states to authorize tests developed and used by labs in their states.

March 16: Asst. Secretary for Health confirmed the availability of 1 million coronavirus tests, and projected 2 million tests available the next week and 5 million the following.

March 17: President Trump announced:

  • CMS will expand telehealth benefits for Medicare beneficiaries.
     
  • Relevant Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act penalties will not be enforced.
     
  • The Army Corps of Engineers is on ”standby” to assist federal & state governments.

March 17: President Trump spoke to fast food executives from Wendy’s, McDonald’s and Burger King to discuss drive-thru services recommended by CDC

March 17: President Trump met with tourism industry representatives along with industrial supply, retail, and wholesale representatives.

March 17: Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin met with lawmakers to discuss stimulus measures to relieve the economic burden of coronavirus on certain industries, businesses, and American workers.

March 17: Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced a partnership between USDA, Baylor University, McLane Global, and Pepsi Co. to provide one million meals per weak to rural children in response to widespread school closures.

March 17: The Treasury Department:

  • Contributed $10 billion through the economic stabilization fund to the Federal Reserve’s commercial paper funding facility.
     
  • Deferred $300 billion in tax payments for 90 days without penalty, up to $1 million for individuals & $10 million for business.

March 17: The Department of Defense announced it will make available to HHS up to five million respirator masks and 2,000 ventilators.

March 18: President Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, which provides free testing and paid sick leave for workers impacted by the coronavirus.

March 18: President Trump announced:

  • Temporary closure of the U.S.-Canada border to non-essential traffic.
     
  • Plans to invoke the Defense Production Act in order to increase the number of necessary supplies needed to combat coronavirus.
     
  • FEMA has been activated in every region at its highest level of response.
     
  • The U.S. Navy will deploy USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy hospital ships.
     
  • All foreclosures and evictions will be suspended for a period of time.

March 18: Secretary of Defense Mark Esper confirmed:

  • 1 million masks are now immediately available.
     
  • The Army Corps of Engineers is in NY consulting on how to best assist state officials.

March 18: HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines.

March 18: President Trump spoke to:

  • Doctors, physicians, and nurses on the front lines containing the spread of coronavirus.
     
  • 130 CEOs of the Business Roundtable to discuss on-going public-private partnerships in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

March 19: President Trump announced:

  • Very encouraging progress shown by anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine for fighting coronavirus.
     
  • Carnival Cruise Lines will make ships available for use as hospitals in impacted areas to use for non-coronavirus patients. 

March 19:  Vice President Pence announced tens of thousands of ventilators have been identified that can be converted to treat patients.

March 19: The State Department issued a global level 4 health advisory, telling Americans to avoid all international travel due to coronavirus.

March 19: President Trump directed FEMA to take the lead on the Federal Government’s coronavirus response & visited FEMA HQ with Vice President Pence for a video call with Governors.

March 20: The U.S. and Mexico agree to mutually restrict nonessential cross-border traffic.

March 20: Secretary Mnuchin announced at the direction of President Trump that tax day will be moved from April 15 to July 15 for all taxpayers and businesses.

March 20:  President Trump:

  • Spoke with Sen. Schumer about coronavirus response & stimulus measures
     
  • Held a call with over 12,000 small business owners to discuss relief efforts
     
  • Announced the CDC will invoke Title 42 to provide border patrol with tools to secure the borders

March 20: The Department of Education announced it will:

  • Not enforce standardized testing requirements for the remainder of the school year
     
  • Allow federal student loan borrowers to stop payments without penalty for 60 days

March 20: Secretary Azar announced:

  • FEMA is coordinating and assisting coronavirus testing at labs across the country
     
  • The CDC is suspending all illegal entries to the country based on the public health threat, via Section 362 of the Public Health & Security Act

March 20: Secretary Azar sent a letter to all 50 Governors that the federal government is buying and making available 200,000 testing swabs

March 21: Vice President Pence announced to date over 195,000 Americans tested for coronavirus and have received their results

March 21: The Trump Administration announced HHS placed an order for hundreds of millions of N95 masks through FEMA

March 21: The FDA announced it had given emergency approval to a new coronavirus test that delivers results in hours, with an intended rollout of March 30

March 21: Adm. Giroir confirmed 10 million testing kits had been put into the commercial market from March 2 through March 14

March 22: President Trump approved major disaster declarations for:

  • Washington State
     
  • California

March 22: President Trump announced: 

  • Governors will remain in command of National Guard forces & the federal govt will fund 100% of operations cost
     
  • He directed the federal govt to provide 4 large federal medical stations with 2,000 beds for CA & 1,000 beds for NY & WA.

March 22:  President Trump confirmed his administration was working with Peru & Honduras to return Americans stranded in both countries as a result of travel restrictions.

March 22: Vice President Pence announced: 

  • The testing backlog will be resolved by midweek.
     
  • To date, over 254,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 22:  President Trump announced that the USNS Mercy will be deployed to Los Angeles.

March 22: FEMA issued guidance for tribal governments to seek federal assistance under the President’s emergency declaration.

March 23: President Trump signed an executive order invoking section 4512 of the Defense Production Act to prohibit the hoarding of vital medical supplies.

March 23: VP Pence announced:

  • 313,000 Americans were tested for the coronavirus & received results.
     
  • FEMA established a supply chain stabilization task force so Americans get supplies they need.
     
  • HHS will have commercial labs prioritize testing for hospitalized patients.

March 23:  The White House Office of Science & Technology Policy announced a public-private consortium to:

  • Advance coronavirus research.
     
  • Provide access to computing technology and resources for researchers.

March 23: Attorney General Barr announced: 

  • The Justice Department held a National Task Force meeting on hoarding and price gouging.
     
  • Each of the 93 U.S. Attorney General offices is designating a lead prosectuor to prevent hoarding.

March 23: President Trump announced HHS is working to designate essential medical supplies as “scarce” to prohibit hoarding of these items.

March 23: The Treasury Department announced it is working with the Federal Reserve to lend up to $300 billion to businesses and local governments.

March 24: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & the National Guard are constructing four hospitals and four medical centers in New York.

March 24: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for the state of Iowa related to the coronavirus outbreak.

March 24: Vice President Pence:

  • Confirmed FEMA sent New York 2,000 ventilators.
     
  • Announced individuals who have recently been in New York should self-quarantine for 14 days.

March 24: Dr. Deborah Birx announced the U.S. has conducted more coronavirus tests in the last week than South Korea has over the prior eight weeks.

March 24: The U.S. Army issued orders for three army hospitals to deploy their health care professionals to New York and Washington state, at the direction of Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy.

March 25: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the #coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Texas
     
  • Florida
     
  • North Carolina

March 25:  President Trump & Vice President Pence held a conference call with 140 non-profit organization leaders, including The Salvation Army & The Red Cross, to discuss coronavirus response efforts.

March 25: President Trump signed a bill reauthorizing The Older Americans Act, which supports senior citizens by providing meals, transportation, and other crucial services.

March 25: Vice President Pence

  • Held a conference call with equipment manufacturers to discuss on-going coronavirus response efforts.

  • Announced 432,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received results.
     
  • Confirmed 4,000 ventilators were delivered to New York.

March 25: Vice President Pence held discussions with multiple governors, including the Governor of Indiana & the Governor of Michigan 

March 26: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Illinois

  • New Jersey
     
  • Maryland
     
  • Missouri

March 26:  President Trump announced the USNS Comfort will depart for NYC on Saturday to assist in the coronavirus response – 3 weeks ahead of schedule!

March 26: President Trump participated in a video conference with the leaders of the G20 to discuss the global coronavirus response & the need for countries to share information and data on the spread of the virus.

March 26: President Trump held a phone call with Chinese President Xi Jinping to discuss the coronavirus.

March 26: Vice President Pence announced 552,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 26: Dr. Fauci announced the Federal Government is working with companies to speed up production of potential coronavirus vaccines while those drugs are still in the trial phase.

March 27: President Trump signed The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act into law.

March 27: President Trump signed a Defense Production Act memorandum ordering General Motors (GM) "to accept, perform, and prioritize federal contractors for ventilators.

March 27: President Trump signed an executive order allowing the military to activate members of the Selected Reserve and Ready Reserve to active duty to assist with the Federal response to the coronavirus.

March 27: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • South Carolina
     
  • Puerto Rico

March 27:  President Trump appointed Office of Trade and Manufacturing policy director Peter Navarro to serve as the Defense Production Act Policy Coordinator.

March 27: President Trump announced that 100,000 ventilators are projected to be manufactured in the next 100 days, three times the amount typically manufactured in one year.

March 27: President Trump announced that Boeing offered the use of three "Dreamlifter" cargo air crafts to transport medical supplies across the country.

March 27: Partnering with FEMA, the CDC, and the Coronavirus Task Force, Apple released a coronavirus app which allows users to screen for their symptoms.

March 27: President Trump spoke with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson about the global coronavirus response and committed to helping provide ventilators to the U.K. where possible.

March 27: Vice President Pence announced that 685,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their test results.

March 27: Emory University began enrolling participants for a phase one clinical trial, sponsored by the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), of a new, potential coronavirus vaccine.

March 27: FEMA Administrator Pete Gaynor spoke to the director of each of the state's emergency operations about the state-led, federally-supported coronavirus response effort.

March 27: The USNS Mercy arrived in the port of Los Angelse to help relieve the strain on hospital facilities in Southern California.

March 28: President Trump visited Norfolk, VA to send off the USNS Comfort to New York City where it will help relieve the strain on local hospitals.

March 28: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Guam
     
  • Michigan
     
  • Massachusetts 
     
  • Kentucky
     
  • Colorado

March 28: President Trump spoke with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis regarding the coronavirus response effort.

March 28: The CDC issued new guidance for residents of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut to avoid non-essential domestic travel for 14 days to #StopTheSpread of the coronavirus within the U.S.

March 29: President Trump announced that CDC guidelines will be extended through April 30 to promote #socialdistancing and other measures to stop the spread of the #coronavirus.

March 29: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Connecticut
     
  • Oregon
     
  • Georgia
     
  • Washington DC

March 29:  President Trump met with supply chain distributors including FedEx, Cardinal Health, and UPS to discuss ways to get state and local governments necessary medical supplies to combat the coronavirus.

March 29: President Trump congratulated the Army Corps of Engineers for having completed construction on a 2,900 bedroom temporary hospital at the Javits Center in New York.

March 29: President Trump tweeted his support for the FDA to expedite the approval process to approve mask sterilization equipment produced by Battelle.

March 29: President Trump announced the on-going study of 1,100 patients in New York being treated with Hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus.

March 29: President Trump directed the Treasury & Labor Departments to look at reinstating deductions of business expenses at restaurants, bars, and entertainment businesses to help the hospitality industry.

March 29: The first "Project Airbridge" shipment of medical supplies from abroad, organized by FEMA, landed at JFK airport, carrying 80 tons of masks, face shields, and other vital medical supplies.

March 29: President Trump announced that Cigna and Humana are waving co-pays for coronavirus treatment.

March 29: Vice President Pence sent a letter to hospital administrators requesting that hospitals across the country report their coronavirus data to the Federal Government in addition to state authorities.

March 29: Adm. Giroir announced that 894,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 29: HHS accepted 30 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine, donated by Sandoz, and one million doses of Chloroquine, donated by Bayer Pharmaceuticals, for clinical trials and possible treatment of coronavirus patients.

March 30: President Trump announced that one million Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 30: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Alabama
     
  • Kansas
     
  • Pennsylvania
     
  • Rhode Island

March 30:  Secretary Azar announced that the FDA has approved Battelle’s N95 mask sanitization process for use to decontaminate tens of thousands of masks per day.

March 30: President Trump announced further private sector commitments to manufacture personal protective equipment  by MyPillow, Honeywell, Jockey, Procter & Gamble, and United Technologies.

March 30: President Trump announced, to date, FEMA has dedicated $1.3 billion to assist New York State’s coronavirus response.

March 30: President Trump announced “more than 14,000” National Guard service members have been activated to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.

March 30: President Trump spoke with the nation’s governors about their need for medical supplies.

March 30: President Trump announced that in the coming days the Federal Government will be delivering:

  • 400 ventilators to Michigan
     
  • 300 ventilators to New Jersey
     
  • 150 ventilators to Louisiana
     
  • 150 ventilators to Illinois
     
  • 50 ventilators to Connecticut

March 30:  President Trump spoke to Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte of Italy and pledged to send $100 million of medical supplies to aid Italy’s battle against coronavirus.

March 30: Answering President Trump’s call for the private sector to join the fight against the #coronavirus, Ford Motor Company committed to producing 50,000 ventilators in the next 100 days.

March 30: On coronavirus testing, Secretary Azar announced that the U.S. is currently testing nearly 100,000 samples per day.

March 30: HHS took steps to accelerate a clinical trial of a potential coronavirus vaccine developed by Janssen Research & Development.

March 30: CMS announced new regulatory changes to cut red tape and give flexibility to America’s health care workers by relaxing hospital workforce regulations, expanding child care, meal, and laundry services for health care workers, expanding tele-health reimbursement, and more.

March 30: The USNS Comfort arrived in New York Harbor, providing more than 1,000 more hospital beds for patients without coronavirus, to relieve pressure on local hospitals.

March 30: The USNS Mercy began treating patients in Los Angeles.

March 31: President Trump officially issued “30 Days To Slow The Spread” guidance to mitigate the outbreak of coronavirus.

March 31: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Ohio
     
  • Montana

March 31: President Trump participated in a conference call with executives of American Network Service Providers to promote connectivity amid social distancing.

March 31: President Trump announced that the federal government is stockpiling 10,000 ventilators to be urgently distributed as needed once the coronavirus pandemic hits its peak in the U.S.

March 31: President Trump announced that the Treasury Department and SBA are rapidly mobilizing money from the CARES Act’s $349 billion paycheck protection program, with the program set to be “up and running” by April 3.

March 31: President Trump spoke to Michigan Governor Whitmer about the state’s need for ventilators.

March 31: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & FEMA will construct:

  • 8 facilities with 50,000 bed capacity in California
     
  • A field hospital with 250 bed capacity in Michigan
     
  • 2 field hospitals in Louisiana with 500 bed capacity
     
  • An alternative care sight in New Orleans with a 3,000 bed capacity

March 31: President Trump spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the international effort to defeat the coronavirus and support the global economy.

March 31: President Trump and the First Lady spoke with their Majesties King Felipe VI and Queen Letizia of Spain about efforts to combat the coronavirus.

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 10 states now have access to federal funding for The National Guard to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 17,000 National Guard Servicemen have been activated across the country to assist in the coronavirus response.

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 1.1 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

March 31: Adm. Giroir & Surgeon General Adams issued an open letter to the U.S. health care community about how to optimize the use of ventilators.

March 31: The FDA issued an emergency use authorization for a two-minute coronavirus antibody test developed by Bodysphere Inc.

March 31: The Treasury Department and IRS launched the employee retention credit, created by the CARES Act to incentivize businesses to keep their employees on payroll, and said businesses can begin using it.

March 31: The VA announced that it had expanded virtual services to veterans, continuing to provide care while limiting in-person interactions that could potentially harm vulnerable populations at VA facilities.

April 1: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • North Dakota
     
  • Hawaii
     
  • The Northern Mariana Islands

April 1: President Trump spoke to Walmart CEO Doug McMillon about the need to procure gowns for hospitals

April 1: President Trump spoke to military families whose relocation or reunion with loved ones was impacted by the coronavirus.

April 1: President Trump announced that the construction & refurbishing of two additional hospital ships like the USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort are being considered.

April 1: Vice President Pence announced that 1.2 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 1: The White House, HHS, and the FDA worked with Senator Rob Portman to acquire and authorize for use over two million gowns donated to the Strategic National Stockpile by Cardinal Health.

April 1: Dr. Birx announced that the White House issued a challenge to universities and states to develop ELISA, or Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assays, tests to detect coronavirus antibodies in larger communities more quickly.

April 1: The Treasury Department released FAQs to help small and medium businesses understand the paid sick and family leave tax credits now offered under the Families First Coronavirus Response Act.

April 1: The Department of Labor posted a temporary rule to implement the Families First Coronavirus Response Act in order to provide paid sick and family leave.

April 1: In New York City, the USNS Comfort began treating its first patients.

April 1: The VA opened its East Orange, NJ medical center to serve non-veteran coronavirus patients to assist the state and FEMA in their response to coronavirus.

April 1: The Treasury Department announced that Social Security recipients, including senior citizens, disabled Americans, and low-income Americans who do not file tax returns will have their coronavirus relief payments directly deposited into their bank accounts.

April 2: President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to direct 3M to produce more N95 respirator masks.

April 2: President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to help 6 companies (General Electric, Hill-Rom Holdings, Medtronic, ResMed, eRoyal Philips, and Vyaire Medical) get the supplies they need to make ventilators.

April 2: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the #coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Virginia
     
  • Tennessee
     
  • The U.S. Virgin Islands

April 2: President Trump discussed the production of ventilators with GM CEO Mary Barra.

April 2: President Trump announced that The Javits Center temporary hospital will be converted into a coronavirus hospital.

April 2: President Trump announced that the Department of Defense will be establishing 48 more ICU beds in New York.

April 2: President Trump announced that the Federal Government will be establishing a coronavirus hospital in Louisiana and Texas.

April 2: President Trump took an additional coronavirus test and tested negative.

April 2: President Trump ordered the Federal Government to cover the costs of all National Guard operations in states with recently approved disaster declarations.

April 2: President Trump sent Senator Chuck Schumer a letter debunking false claims made against the Trump Administration’s coronavirus response.

April 2: Secretary Mnuchin and Small Business Administrator Jovita Carranza announced that the Paycheck Protection Program, created by the CARES Act to provide $350 billion in loans to small businesses, will be launched tomorrow.

April 2: Secretary Mnuchin announced that the first relief payments will be dispersed within two weeks.

April 2: Vice President Pence announced that 1.3 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 2: Vice President Pence announced that all Blue Cross Blue Shield Members will be waiving out of pocket costs for coronavirus treatment.

April 2: Rear Adm. Polowczyk announced FEMA’s Supply Chain Stabilization Task Force has delivered:

  • 27.1 million surgical masks
     
  • 19.5 N95 million respirator masks
     
  • 22.4 million surgical gloves
     
  • 5.2 million face shields
     
  • Over 7,600 ventilators

April 2: First Lady Melania Trump had a phone call with Mrs. Sophie Grégoire Trudeau of Canada, who is recovering from the coronavirus.

April 2: The Federal Transit Administration (FTA) announced $25 billion in federal funding to support public transportation systems in response to the coronavirus.

April 2: The Department of Justice and HHS distributed 192,000 N95 respirator masks confiscated from price gougers to health care workers in New York and New Jersey.

April 2: The FDA approved the first coronavirus antibody test, developed by Cellex.

April 2: The FDA issued new guidance to increase the supply of blood donations, reducing the deferral period for gay men from 12 months to 3 months.

April 2: The Department of Education donated 5,760 N95 respirator masks discovered in storage to aid the fight against the coronavirus.

April 2: Secretary Pompeo announced that the State Department has now brought home 30,000 Americans stranded overseas as a result of coronavirus-related travel restrictions.

April 2: April 2: HHS announced it was relaxing enforcement of HIPAA violations to encourage health care providers to share coronavirus data and information with federal and state health care officials.

April 2: The Trump Administration issued recommendations to nursing homes to help mitigate the spread of coronavirus.

April 2: HUD announced it was immediately making $3 billion of CARES Act funding available to help America’s low-income families and most vulnerable citizens across the nation.

April 2: The Energy Department announced it would immediately make 30 million barrels of the strategic petroleum reserve’s (SPR’s) oil storage capacity available to struggling U.S. oil producers.

April 3: President Trump announced new voluntary CDC guidelines that all Americans wear non-medical, fabric or cloth face masks to prevent asymptomatic spread of coronavirus.

April 3: The President met with energy execs from Phillips 66, Devon Energy, Continental Resources, Hilcorp Energy, Occidental Petroleum, The American Petroleum Institute, The Energy Transfer Partners, Chevron, & Exxon Mobil to discuss coronavirus’ impact on the energy industry.

April 3: President Trump spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron to discuss convening the five permanent members of the UN Security Council in an effort to defeat the coronavirus and discuss its impact on the world.

April 3: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • New Hampshire
     
  • West Virginia
     
  • Indiana
     
  • Arkansas
     
  • Oregon

April 3: President Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum blocking the export of N95 and other respirator masks, surgical masks, PPE gloves, and surgical gloves to ensure they are available in the U.S. – designating them as “scarce” under the Defense Production Act.

April 3: President Trump announced that Anthem will waive co-pays for coronavirus treatment for 60 days.

April 3: President Trump announced that uninsured Americans will have their coronavirus treatment covered, using funding from the CARES Act.

April 3: Trump Administration officials spoke to the directors of the two largest health care providers in Louisiana, Ochsner and LCMC Health, to discuss their need for medical supplies.

April 3: President Trump directed FEMA to send Ochsner Surgical Gowns.

April 3: President Trump announced that 9,000 retired Army medical personnel have volunteered and are assisting the federal response to the coronavirus.

April 3: President Trump announced that the DOJ and HHS have together secured:

  • 200,000 N95 masks
     
  • 130,000 surgical masks
     
  • 600,000 gloves

from hoarders and have distributed the supplies to health care workers.

April 3: Vice President Pence announced that 1.4 million coronavirus tests have been completed to date.

April 3: Vice President Pence announced that 18,000 machines are already available across the country to administer Abbott 15 Minute Coronavirus Tests, with another 1,200 soon to be distributed to states.

April 3: Vice President Pence announced that a Project Airbridge flight landed in Columbus, Ohio with medical supplies.

April 3: Secretary Azar announced a public-private partnership with Oracle to collect crowd-sourced data on coronavirus therapeutic treatments.

April 3: The SBA launched the Paycheck Protection Program for small businesses impacted by the coronavirus pandemic, issuing more than 17,500 loans valued at $5.4 billion.

April 3: The Army Corps of Engineers is working with states to assess 750 requests for temporary hospital facilities, having completed 673 already.

April 3: The FDA announced it would coordinate the national effort to develop blood-related therapies for COVID-19.

April 3: The Defense Department’s Joint Acquisition Task Force launched a new portal giving the private sector the ability to submit information and solutions to the DoD.

April 3: The State Department announced that they have awarded contracts for 8 new medical facilities, totaling 9,693 new beds.

April 3: The Department of Labor issued guidance to help employers reduce their use of N95 respirators, freeing up supply for the coronavirus response.

April 3: HUD announced it is making $200 million in Indian housing block grants for Indian Tribes under the CARES Act.

April 3: EPA Administrator Wheeler held a call with retailers and marketplace platforms to discuss ways to protect consumers from fake disinfectants.

April 3: First Lady Melania Trump held a phone call with Mrs. Brigitte Macron of France to discuss the coronavirus response.

April 4: President Trump announced that 1,000 members of the Defense Department’s Medical Corps will be deployed to New York to assist in the fight against coronavirus.

April 4: President Trump spoke to commissioners of major league sports organizations including the MLB, NFL, & NBA, recognizing what the leagues, teams, and players are doing in their communities to combat coronavirus.

April 4: President Trump tweeted encouragement to American children unable to start their Little League baseball season on time due to coronavirus.

April 4: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • Nebraska
     
  • Wisconsin
     
  • Maine
     
  • Nevada

April 4: President Trump announced that he was considering a second coronavirus task force focused on the economy.

April 4: President Trump urged PM Modi of India to allow Hydroxychloroquine to be shipped to the United States.

April 4: President Trump announced that the U.S. government has repatriated over 40,000 Americans from 75 countries.

April 4: Vice President Pence spoke to Governors of New York, New Jersey, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, and Maryland.

April 4: FEMA obligated $44 million to Iowa under the state’s major disaster declaration to combat the coronavirus.

April 5: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

  • South Dakota
     
  • New Mexico
     
  • Oklahoma
     
  • Mississippi

April 5: April 5: President Trump announced that by Tuesday, 3,000 military and medical personnel will have deployed to New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut to assist in the coronavirus response effort.

April 5: President Trump announced that the Trump Administration will be sending New York 600,000 N95 masks tomorrow, including 200,000 to Suffolk County alone.

April 5: President Trump announced that the Administration will soon send:

  • 300 ventilators to Michigan
     
  • 200 ventilators to Louisiana
     
  • 600 ventilators to Illinois
     
  • 100 ventilators to Massachusetts
     
  • 500 ventilators to New Jersey

April 5: President Trump announced the establishment of a federal coronavirus medical station in Washington D.C.

April 5: President Trump announced that Washington has returned 400 ventilators to the strategic national stockpile.

April 5: President Trump announced that 1.67 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 5: President Trump announced that the government has stockpiled 29 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine

April 5: Dr. Birx announced that testing in the New York metro area, New Jersey, Louisiana, and Washington has exceeded the testing rate of Spain and Italy

April 5: Adm. Polowczyk announced that three Project Airbridge flights of medical supplies landed across the US today carrying:

  • 1 million gowns
     
  • 2.8 million surgical masks
     
  • 11.8 million gloves

April 5: Adm. Polowczyk spoke to top health officials from states severely impacted by the coronavirus to discuss the supply chain.

April 5: Secretary Wilkie announced that the VA is making 1,500 beds available at VA hospitals to help states and localities across the country.

April 5: Vice President Pence spoke to governors from states severely impacted by the coronavirus, including Michigan, Louisiana, and Illinois.

April 5: FEMA and The Army Corps of Engineers completed renovations at the McCormick Place Pavilion in Chicago, providing an additional 500 hospital beds for the city

April 6: President Trump announced an agreement with 3M to produce and import 55.5 million N95 masks each month for the next three months.

April 6: President Trump held a call with CEOs from pharmaceutical and bio-tech companies to discuss potential coronavirus therapeutics.

April 6: President Trump had a “very friendly” phone call with former Vice President Joe Biden to discuss the coronavirus.

April 6: President Trump announced that 1.79 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 6: President Trump approved Governor Murphy’s request to allow New Jersey patients aboard the USNS Comfort.

April 6: President Trump approved Governor Cuomo’s request to allow the treatment of coronavirus patients on the USNS Comfort.

April 6: President Trump announced that CVS will open two new drive-thru coronavirus testing sites in Georgia and Rhode Island. Both will use Abbott’s rapid coronavirus test.

April 6: President Trump announced that the FDA authorized Inovio’s potential coronavirus vaccine for a clinical trial, wile 10 potential coronavirus therapeutic agents are in “active trials” with another 15 potential therapeutics in plans for clinical trials.

April 6: President Trump praised the work of the private sector, including Apple and Salesforce, who have agreed to donate personal protective equipment to help defeat the coronavirus.

April 6: President Trump announced that The Army Corps of Engineers is building 22 field hospitals and alternative care sites in 18 states.

April 6: President Trump announced that 8,450 hospital beds and 8,000 ventilators have been deployed across the country from federal stockpiles.

April 6: Vice President Pence announced that to date $4.1 billion has been allocated to states under federal disaster declarations.

April 6: Vice President Pence announced that 21,000 National Guard Servicemen have been activated across the country to assist in the fight against coronavirus.

April 6: VP Pence announced that thanks to California’s donation of 500 ventilators, the federal government will send:

  • 200 ventilators to MD
     
  • 100 ventilators to DE
     
  • 100 ventilators to NV
     
  • 50 ventilators to DC
     
  • 50 ventilators to Guam & the Northern Mariana Islands

Apil 6: The CDC began publishing a new, data-centered coronavirus surveillance report on coronavirus.gov.

April 6: HHS announced an additional $186 million in CDC funding for state and local jurisdictions combatting the coronavirus.

April 6: HHS announced it will be purchasing 15 minute coronavirus tests from Abbott for state, territorial, and tribal labs and for the Strategic National Stockpile.

April 6: The Department of Education announced a streamlined process making it easier for states to use federal education funding for distance learning during the coronavirus outbreak.

April 7: President Trump participated in a conference call with banking executives to discuss how to best deliver financial aid and technical assistance to small businesses.

April 7: President Trump announced the SBA has processed “more than $70 billion” in loans to help small businesses as part of the Paycheck Protection Program.

April 7: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for Minnesota related to the coronavirus outbreak.

April 7: President Trump announced that in addition to the 8,675 ventilators in the strategic national stockpile, the federal government will be acquiring 110,000 ventilators in the next three months to be distributed to states in need.

April 7: President Trump announced that 1.87 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 7: President Trump announced his intent to ask Congress for an additional $250 billion for the Paycheck Protection Program to loan to small businesses.

April 7: Vice President Pence participated in a conference call with over 500 business owners to discuss their needs amid the coronavirus response effort.

April 7: CMS Administrator Verma announced that CMS will make available an additional $30 billion in grants this week for health care organizations with increased operating costs due to the coronavirus.

April 7: The State Department announced an additional $225 million in health, humanitarian, and economic assistance to reduce the transmission of the coronavirus around the world.

April 7: As part of Project Airbridge, UPS and FEMA began shipments of 25 flights with more than three million pounds of medical supplies.

April 7: The Department of Transportation finalized a requirement that airlines who receive assistance under the CARES Act continue flights to destinations they were serving before the outbreak, ensuring commercial flights are available.

April 7: The EPA distributed over 1,100 N95 masks to the California Office of Emergency Services.

 

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17 hours ago, PTakacs said:

My eyes are wide open, more so than many others' -- I sold most of my stock in late January, best judgment I have made in my LIFE! (alas I entered the market again a bit too soon -- didn't realize the market was going to be that violent).

Again, I only look at what others do, and the 50M quarantine was a no-brainer to me. It should have been a no-brainer to our gov as well. 

Okay, let’s say you are Trump and you see the massive quarantine in China. Are you suggesting that he should have immediately quarantined the entire country? Or maybe just every metropolitan area.

Who would YOU have quarantined after seeing that Wuhan was in lockdown?

It is easy to blame in hindsight. I want you, to tell me, what YOU would have done at THAT point in time.

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11 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Okay, let’s say you are Trump and you see the massive quarantine in China. Are you suggesting that he should have immediately quarantined the entire country? Or maybe just every metropolitan area.

Who would YOU have quarantined after seeing that Wuhan was in lockdown?

It is easy to blame in hindsight. I want you, to tell me, what YOU would have done at THAT point in time.

Look at what Taiwan did. Same democracy as us, with a two-party system. Only  382 cases and 6 deaths, despite the fact that millions returned to Taiwan from China in December and January, with many directly from Wuhan. 

Taiwan was not locked down entirely. But it implemented focused quarantines, mass testing, mandatory mask wearing, etc., right after seeing China's quarantine on 1/23. That's it. We wasted two precious months. 

 

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21 hours ago, Ron Ron said:

It was contained in China. Even before it was contained the WHO declared a global health emergency. As I recall, some suggested that covid-19 was similar to the flu.

WHO lied for China.

WHO did not declare a pandemic until March 11th 

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1 hour ago, BLA said:

WHO lied for China.

WHO did not declare a pandemic until March 11th 

Does that matter when China had already publicly locked down 50M on 1/23? Again let's look at Taiwan, my favorite country. Politically it is driving a very public campaign to become a member of the WHO, but in reality it didn't bother following the WHO at all -- it started its own testing and quarantines soon after 1/23. It even banned all export of masks to China in January!

The result was phenomenal: so far only 382 cases and 6 deaths, all despite having millions returning from China right before the lock down, with many directly from Wuhan. Taiwan is only miles from the mainland but did better than most other countries precisely because it wasn't bothered by any of the political noises.

Like the UN, the WHO is what it is, and it is not going to change. Even the Chinese will learn soon that all the effort spent on the WHO or the UN will not do them much good either -- we have actually gone through the path ourselves. Do you remember how we used to use the UN to justify our wars? Did that do us much good in the long run? 

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5 hours ago, PTakacs said:

Look at what Taiwan did. Same democracy as us, with a two-party system. Only  382 cases and 6 deaths, despite the fact that millions returned to Taiwan from China in December and January, with many directly from Wuhan. 

Taiwan was not locked down entirely. But it implemented focused quarantines, mass testing, mandatory mask wearing, etc., right after seeing China's quarantine on 1/23. That's it. We wasted two precious months. 

 

I asked what YOU would do, not what Taiwan did. Be specific.

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1 hour ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I asked what YOU would do, not what Taiwan did. Be specific.

Mirror what Taiwan did, but to a lesser degree, because we actually had a good lead time ahead of Taiwan/Asian countries --

  1. mandatory screening and quarantine (14 days) of all inbound travelers from outside of the US, whether US or non-US citizens (I read an article that most cases in NYC are tied to a specific strain from Italy),
  2. mandatory continuous disinfection of public places (like what supermarkets are doing now),
  3. loads of PSAs about the potential pandemic, including strong recommendation of mask wearing, 
  4. testing as many recent hospital admits as possible, and mandatory quarantine of anyone tested positive.
  5. asking all employers to monitor employees, and allow any employee with symptoms to get tested immediately

For laughs, by testing all inbound travelers instead of just those from China/Asia, no one would even be able to accuse Trump of being a racist (which I don't believe he is), and hotels in big cities would be booming because of the quarantines. 

We could have nipped it in the bud, without any full blown area quarantines. 

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4 hours ago, PTakacs said:

Does that matter when China had already publicly locked down 50M on 1/23? Again let's look at Taiwan, my favorite country. Politically it is driving a very public campaign to become a member of the WHO, but in reality it didn't bother following the WHO at all -- it started its own testing and quarantines soon after 1/23. It even banned all export of masks to China in January!

The result was phenomenal: so my far only 382 cases and 6 deaths, all despite having millions returning from China right before the lock down, with many directly from Wuhan. Taiwan is only miles from the mainland but did better than most other countries precisely because it wasn't bothered by any of the political noises.

Like the UN, the WHO is what it is, and it is not going to change. Even the Chinese will learn soon that all the effort spent on the WHO or the UN will not do them much good either -- we have actually gone through the path ourselves. Do you remember how we used to use the UN to justify our wars? Did that do us much good in the long run? 

PT

The U.S. is going to vote on terminating China Telecom license to operate in the U.S.

This is just the beginning.

再见, 

zài jiàn,

Good-bye

see ya 

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PT

The U.S. is going to vote on terminating China Telecom license to operate in the U.S.

This is just the beginning.

再见, 

zài jiàn,

Good-bye

see ya 

This is neither here nor there. I wasn't even aware that China Telecom operates here. How many customers does it have here? 500? Could this be just another political statement with little substance? Could we be barking at the wrong tree again? Did China Telecom cause all the deaths? Maybe that's it! 

But I guess if one has nothing better to say ... 

OR, maybe someone is purposely trying to divert our attention from finding a set of real solutions. Hmm, quarantining NYC right now or perhaps just banning China Telecom! Brilliant!

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2 hours ago, PTakacs said:

Mirror what Taiwan did, but to a lesser degree, because we actually had a good lead time ahead of Taiwan/Asian countries --

  1. mandatory screening and quarantine (14 days) of all inbound travelers from outside of the US, whether US or non-US citizens (I read an article that most cases in NYC are tied to a specific strain from Italy),
  2. mandatory continuous disinfection of public places (like what supermarkets are doing now),
  3. loads of PSAs about the potential pandemic, including strong recommendation of mask wearing, 
  4. testing as many recent hospital admits as possible, and mandatory quarantine of anyone tested positive.
  5. asking all employers to monitor employees, and allow any employee with symptoms to get tested immediately

For laughs, by testing all inbound travelers instead of just those from China/Asia, no one would even be able to accuse Trump of being a racist (which I don't believe he is), and hotels in big cities would be booming because of the quarantines. 

We could have nipped it in the bud, without any full blown area quarantines. 

I think you are missing the ‘economy of scale’ here. What is the population of Taiwan compared to the US? What is the physical size (area) of Taiwan compared to the US? And do not forget that Taiwan is an island, much easier to isolate.

Why let non-US citizens in at all?

There would be a much greater financial cost to implement your plan in the US as opposed to Taiwan, who pays for that? Perhaps AOC and the New Green Deal?

The fact is, given the information from China, and THEIR failure to cancel all international flights, this virus was spreading in the States before anyone had any idea as to how contagious, or deadly, this virus was.

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On 4/10/2020 at 12:37 AM, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

Trump's administration wasted half of January, February and March, doing nothing, drifting from excuse to excuse (it's a flu, a few Chinese have it, no big deal, we have it under control). The result is collapsed health care system and lots of unnecessary deaths. 

 

Dr. Fauci on BBC news today:

Coronavirus: Fauci says US 'could have saved lives' with earlier action

The US "could have saved lives" if it had introduced measures to stop Covid-19 earlier, a top health official says.

"If we had, right from the beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different," Dr Anthony Fauci told CNN. But he said making that decision was complicated.  ...

What did Fauci say?
When asked about a New York Times report that Dr Fauci and other officials had suggested aggressive mitigation towards the end of February, Dr Fauci said health officials can only make recommendations from a "pure health standpoint".

"Often, the recommendation is taken. Sometimes, it's not. But it is what it is, we are where we are right now."

Dr Fauci, who is leading the US response to coronavirus, added that "no one is going to deny" that logically, earlier mitigation could have saved lives.

But he said "what goes into those kinds of decisions is complicated".

"There was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then."

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But hold on there.  Let's backtrack.  The doctor who is leading the U.S. response to coronavirus had remarkably different advice earlier.

Here is Dr. Fauci on February 29th, saying no action needs to be taken yet, nothing to worry about yet.

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I remain unclear as to where this discussion is going.  

What you fellows seem to be overlooking is that the Ground Zero of the disease, and its virus, is inside that "wet market" inside a city of 11 million people.  No one seems to recognize that slaughtering and eating animals out of the bush, including out of Africa, inside a major metropolis is a recipe for disaster.  Did the Chinese shut down their wet market?  Nope, not right away.  And wet markets proliferate in that part of the world.  Well, if you know that these people are behaving like this, then why on earth would anyone want to have anything to do with them?  You do not need to carry a Mensa Membership card to know that that is going to go South soon enough. 

Dumping on Dr. Fauci strikes me as unproductive.  Let's get real here;   The USA was not set up to contend with this type of outbreak.  It had neither the protective gear, including few reserve masks, nor the structure to rapidly create test kits, nor the structure to develop vaccines, nor even the manufacturing capability to build barimetric chambers, which I believe is likely the most promising and best solution for thwarting the progression of the disease in infected persons. Can we do better the next time around?  Surely.  Should the Feds spend the money to get the manufacturing facilities up and ready to go?  I think so.  A lot cheaper than blowing four trillion after the fact, in an effort to salvage the US economy.   

Do I, personally, lay blame on the CCP for trying to hide the damage?  You bet I do.

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3 hours ago, Jan van Eck said:

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What you fellows seem to be overlooking is that the Ground Zero of the disease, and its virus, is inside that "wet market" inside a city of 11 million people. ...

Occam's razor Jan. Think this through. What is the simplest explanation?

Locals claim there were no bats sold at the wet market in Wuhan.

The BSL level for bat coronavirus rsearch at the lab was level 2. Very rudimentary precautions.

It appears that Huang Yanling is patient zero.

Public information on the Chinese internet, published by researchers, scientists and doctors.

Researchers splashed by bat urine and blood. In a lab studying bat-to-human transmissibility of coronaviruses.

The paper by Xiao Botao:

https://img-prod.tgcom24.mediaset.it/images/2020/02/16/114720192-5eb8307f-017c-4075-a697-348628da0204.pdf

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