IainFraserJournalist + 11 May 4, 2020 This is a great piece Tom, although I don't necessarily share all of your opinions. Over at GEOPoliticalMatters.com we have been investigating the Wuhan laboratory leak since 15 March 2020 after we received credible intelligence from a trusted former US intelligence officer. We never subscribe to "conspiracy theories" or theorists, so we have held off publishing, however, the mounting evidence looks to point to a lab leak being more likely rather than the original wet market theory. 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Profit + 46 May 4, 2020 Peer-reviewing has its own share of problems.. But science without peer-reviewing ? IMHO that only would let the door wide open to charlatanism.. AFAIK the current evidence regarding HCQ + AZ is thin and controversial https://www.isac.world/news-and-publications/official-isac-statement https://retractionwatch.com/2020/04/06/hydroxychlorine-covid-19-study-did-not-meet-publishing-societys-expected-standard/ I'm not aware of solid evidence regarding HCQ + zinc.. In either case I may have missed something, I don't think there is a proven cure at this point. I hope I am proven wrong. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, IainFraserJournalist said: This is a great piece Tom, although I don't necessarily share all of your opinions. Over at GEOPoliticalMatters.com we have been investigating the Wuhan laboratory leak since 15 March 2020 after we received credible intelligence from a trusted former US intelligence officer. We never subscribe to "conspiracy theories" or theorists, so we have held off publishing, however, the mounting evidence looks to point to a lab leak being more likely rather than the original wet market theory. Thanks Iain. Had a glance at the link. Will read more later when I get back home. Out for a 4 hour walk early this morning, on day 4 of my fasting. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radha + 262 RK May 4, 2020 https://www.sott.net/article/433787-Scientists-conclude-people-cannot-get-coronavirus-twice 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Nikko + 2,145 nb May 4, 2020 The backpeddling has begun in force here in the UK, they want everyone at work, police not pulling people over anymore, everyone is out doing what they want...the 2m rule (which was idiotic) is now cancelled. It's over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Nikko + 2,145 nb May 4, 2020 😂 video_2020-05-04_22-11-46.mp4 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Profit + 46 May 4, 2020 (edited) A draft report prepared by Johns Hopkins researchers for the CDC shows 200K deaths by June 1. White House does not agree. A "cubic model" prepared by White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett & team predicts deaths essentially stop by May 15. Our latest: https://t.co/nPalyvqY5L Edited May 5, 2020 by Jim Profit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 May 5, 2020 (edited) *A lesson, a reminder - for those it may concern.* Tough decision to take for any govt. In 1720, a ship was quarantined at the port in Marseille coz a strange infection was killing people on the ship. Deputy Mayor of Marseille lifted the quarantine to “help the economy”. 100,000 people died. More than half of Marseille died. *This was the Great Plague of Marseille.* The govt of Marseille felt they could not afford to lose all the valuable goods on the ship coz it will destroy the economy. As they lifted the quarantine & moved the goods into the city of Marseille, they moved in the infection. More than half of Marseille citizens died. Marseille is a major port city in the south of France. *By the end of the Great Plague of Marseille, the city of Marseille had 50,000 dead people out of a total 90,000 population back then.* The ship left Sidon in Lebanon, picked up people at Tripoli & Cyprus which already had infection outbreak. A Turkish man on the ship got infected first & died, then several sailors died. The ship’s surgeon also died. As the ship got to Marseille, Doctors quarantined it. Now coz Marseille had a very huge trading arrangement with “Levant” (a term for countries like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Cyprus, Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and Palestine); the govt was convinced by businessmen that the quarantine on the ship has to be removed & the goods released. Some powerful businessmen led by the deputy mayor of Marseille (who was also the owner of the ship) convinced his friends in govt to release the quarantine. Some merchants needed the cotton & silk cargo on the ship to do business for the upcoming festival in Beaucaire. It was only a matter of days later, the infection broke out in the whole of Marseille. People started dropping dead. They died so much there was no graves to bury them. Dead bodies littered the streets of Marseille. Till date, the people of Marseille remember this story. *Apparently what happened was:* The govt tried to be clever. They told themselves “we will only move the silk & cotton on the ship into the city but not the infected people on the ship”. But in moving the goods, they unknowingly moved infected rats which then infected people. As people got infected, they infected one another. At a point, the govt of France built a wall to stop Marseille from infecting the rest of the country. But it was too late. 10,000 people from Marseille already ran into neighbouring cities. 50,000 people died outside of Marseille. *The Great Plague of Marseille lasted about 3 years.* Those were horrible years in Marseille & in France. Hospitals got overwhelmed. Residents fleeing their homes. Dead bodies lying & decaying on the streets. As the infection then spread, nobody cared anymore about “economy”. I hope you learnt something. *The Great Plague of Marseille is a huge warning to govt never to prioritise the “economy” ahead of human lives & public health. It can be a very costly mistake.* *We can always rebuild the economy, but we can never revive the dead.* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Marseille Edited May 5, 2020 by Hotone 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 May 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hotone said: I hope you learnt something. *The Great Plague of Marseille is a huge warning to govt never to prioritise the “economy” ahead of human lives & public health. It can be a very costly mistake.* *We can always rebuild the economy, but we can never revive the dead.* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Marseille Edited 37 minutes ago by Hotone 0.02% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Profit + 46 May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Dan Warnick said: 0.02% What do you mean? What us this number? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Profit + 46 May 5, 2020 Members of the Opening Our Country Council committee and their companies have given Trump entities a combined $103 million. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 5, 2020 There are none so blind as those who [ knowingly ] refuse to see. [ KNOWINGLY ] PDF of the referenced 2005 HCQ paper attached at the bottom of this comment, and also the link to that 2005 HCQ paper. Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses. How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim. The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” Write the researchers, “We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.” This means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured below) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it’s even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus (“therapeutic”) but prevent future cases (“prophylactic”). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci’s researchers add, “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.” Dr. Didier Raoult, the Anthony Fauci of France, had such spectacular success using HCQ to treat victims of SARS-CoV-2 that he said way back on February 25 that “it’s game over” for coronavirus. He and a team of researchers reported that the use of HCQ administered with both azithromycin and zinc cured 79 of 80 patients with only “rare and minor” adverse events. “In conclusion,” these researchers write, “we confirm the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine associated with azithromycin in the treatment of COVID-19 and its potential effectiveness in the early impairment of contagiousness.” The highly-publicized VA study that purported to show HCQ was ineffective showed nothing of the sort. HCQ wasn’t administered until the patients were virtually on their deathbeds when research indicates it should be prescribed as soon as symptoms are apparent. Plus, HCQ was administered without azithromycin and zinc, which form the cocktail that makes it supremely effective. At-risk individuals need to receive the HCQ cocktail at the first sign of symptoms. But Governor Andrew Cuomo banned the use of HCQ in the entire state of New York on March 6, the Democrat governors of Nevada and Michigan soon followed suit, and by March 28 the whole country was under incarceration-in-place fatwas. Nothing happened with regard to the use of HCQ in the U.S. until March 20, when President Trump put his foot down and insisted that the FDA consider authorizing HCQ for off-label use to treat SARS-CoV-2. On March 23, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko reported that he had treated around 500 coronavirus patients with HCQ and had seen an astonishing 100% success rate. That’s not the “anecdotal” evidence Dr. Fauci sneers at, but actual results with real patients in clinical settings. “Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen. Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.” Said Dr. Zelenko: "If you scale this nationally, the economy will rebound much quicker. The country will open again. And let me tell you a very important point. This treatment costs about $20. That’s very important because you can scale that nationally. If every treatment costs $20,000, that’s not so good. All I’m doing is repurposing old, available drugs which we know their safety profiles, and using them in a unique combination in an outpatient setting." The questions are disturbing to a spectacular degree. If Dr. Fauci has known since 2005 of the effectiveness of HCQ, why hasn’t it been administered immediately after people show symptoms, as Dr. Zelenko has done? Maybe then nobody would have died and nobody would have been incarcerated in place except the sick, which is who a quarantine is for in the first place. To paraphrase Jesus, it’s not the symptom-free who need HCQ but the sick. And they need it at the first sign of symptoms. While the regressive health care establishment wants the HCQ cocktail to only be administered late in the course of the infection, from a medical standpoint, this is stupid. Said one doctor, “As a physician, this baffles me. I can’t think of a single infectious condition — bacterial, fungal, or viral — where the best medical treatment is to delay the use of an anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, or anti-viral until the infection is far advanced.” So why has Dr. Fauci minimized and dismissed HCQ at every turn instead of pushing this thing from jump street? He didn’t even launch clinical trials of HCQ until April 9, by which time 33,000 people had died. This may be why: “Chloroquine, a relatively safe, effective and cheap drug used for treating many human diseases...is effective in inhibiting the infection and spread of SARS CoV.” That’s the problem. It is safe, inexpensive, and it works - in other words, there’s nothing sexy or avant-garde about HCQ. It’s been around since 1934. Given human nature, it’s possible, even likely, that those who are chasing the unicorn of a coronavirus vaccine are doing so for reasons other than human health. I can’t see into anybody’s heart, and can’t presume to know their motives, but on the other hand, human nature recognizes that there’s no glory in pushing HCQ, and nobody is going to get anything named for him in the history books. The polio vaccine was developed by Jonas Salk in 1954, and it is still known as the “Salk vaccine.” There will be no “Fauci vaccine” if HCQ is the answer to the problem. So while Dr. Fauci is tut-tutting and pooh-poohing HCQ, Dr. Raoult and Dr. Zelensky are out there saving lives at $20 a pop. Maybe we should spend more time listening to them than the wizards-of-smart bureaucrats the Talking Snake Media fawns over. Dr. Fauci is regarded by the Talking Snake Media as the Oracle at Delphi. The entire nation hangs on his every word. But if nobody is dying and nobody is locked down, his 15 minutes of fame fades to zero. Very few people are not going to be influenced by that prospect, especially when it’s easy to keep the attention of the public by continuing to feed the panic. It should not be overlooked that there is no money in HCQ for Big Pharma since HCQ is a generic that can be manufactured so cheaply there is little profit margin in it. On the other hand, the payday for a vaccine will literally be off-the-charts. Who knows what kind of behind-the-scenes pressure is being put on Fauci and others in the health care establishment? There is a monstrous reputational risk for those who will be found to have dismissively waved off a treatment that could have been used from the very beginning, even back on February 15 when Dr. Fauci said that the risk from Coronavirus was “minuscule.” How many lives could have been saved if the heads of our multi-billion dollar health care bureaucracy had been advocating for HCQ treatment from day one? We’ll never know. Instead, their advice has been dangerous and deadly in every sense of that word. Someday - maybe even today - we will be able to identify the individuals who had the knowledge and expertise to make a global difference, but turned up their noses at the solution when it could have made all the difference in the world. ========================================================= Meantime, the concerted efforts by Mainstream Media push the verbatim and false talking points that CHQ has No Benefits, More Deaths =================================================== Link to the 2005 paper referenced: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/ PDF of the same 2005 paper attached: Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread - Aug 2005 - Virology Journal.pdf 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IainFraserJournalist + 11 May 5, 2020 (edited) Hi Tom, great reading again. I would love to re-purpose this (appropriate credits etc., of course) and put it out over our user network at GEOPoliticalMatters.com Let me know if you are OK with that. Best regards, Iain Edited May 5, 2020 by IainFraserJournalist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, IainFraserJournalist said: Hi Tom, great reading again. I would love to re-purpose this (appropriate credits etc., of course) and put it out over our user network at GEOPoliticalMatters.com Let me know if you are OK with that. Best regards, Iain Heh heh, sure, no problem. All I'm doing is compiling and condensing information from others, and adding my own comments. Please make sure you give links to the article and 2005 paper; links are already provided in the comment. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LiamP + 168 LP May 5, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jim Profit said: What do you mean? What us this number? I think it's the oilprice.com latest estimate for SARS2 mortality rate when you pick maximum cherries, apply filters to remove all data not supportive of the 'it's just a cold' narrative, make maximum unsubstantiated assumptions, then divide by ten for good measure :). It's now an order of magnitude less deadly than common flu apparently. Edited May 5, 2020 by LiamP 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy Pants + 35 JL May 5, 2020 I would love this to be some large conspiracy by the evil globalists...but I've seen it first hand that this is a legitimate death causing illness, not just another flu. It has a strong penchant for old people, yes, but young people are getting ill too, sometimes critically. We've been lucky that, because of social distancing, most people getting sick are the elderly and the health care workers caring for them. We've had influenza come through and have never seen anything like this. Are politicians and other actors taking advantage of this! You can bet your ass they are. In my province, the state of emergency is allowing the government to bypass union agreements and cut services previously promised. Certainly different jurisdictions will see different avenues to capitalize. If history shows that we waited a week or two too long to open up the economy, so be it. I can live with that. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy Pants + 35 JL May 5, 2020 Also. I read the 2005 study re: Hydroxychloroquine. Very promising considering the similarities between SARS and Covid19. However cell culture testing and clinical trials can often produce different results. The cell culture data from the 2005 study is very clear: Hydroxychloroquine is a straight up killer of SARS/Covid1. Though they didn't follow it up with human trials, because we had eradicated SARS by this point. Now there's been a lot of different trials with Hydroxychloroquine worldwide on active infections. With and without other additives. While some of the data looks "ok", some of it is "inconclusive" and some of it is bad. While the evidence is still evolving, I don't see it as a silver bullet right now. It wouldn't make sense to put all of our efforts (the massive scale of manufacturing needed to give this to everybody) into this drug without some better evidence. There are hundreds, if not thousands of ongoing clinical trials all over the world with this drug. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: There are none so blind as those who [ knowingly ] refuse to see. [ KNOWINGLY ] PDF of the referenced 2005 HCQ paper attached at the bottom of this comment, and also the link to that 2005 HCQ paper. Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses. How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim. The Virology Journal - the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health - published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading - get ready for this - “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” Write the researchers, “We report...that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.” This means, of course, that Dr. Fauci (pictured below) has known for 15 years that chloroquine and it’s even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus (“therapeutic”) but prevent future cases (“prophylactic”). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci’s researchers add, “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.” < snip > ========================================================= Meantime, the concerted efforts by Mainstream Media push the verbatim and false talking points that CHQ has No Benefits, More Deaths For those who don't understand the [ knowingly ] reference that I used twice above, in bold. U.S. Department of Justice website provides some legal explanation: https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-910-knowingly-and-willfully 910. KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. § 1001 requires that the false statement, concealment or cover up be "knowingly and willfully" done, which means that "The statement must have been made with an intent to deceive, a design to induce belief in the falsity or to mislead, but § 1001 does not require an intent to defraud -- that is, the intent to deprive someone of something by means of deceit." United States v. Lichenstein, 610 F.2d 1272, 1276-77 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 447 U.S. 907 (1980). The government may prove that a false statement was made "knowingly and willfully" by offering evidence that defendants acted deliberately and with knowledge that the representation was false. See United States v. Hopkins, 916 F.2d 207, 214 (5th Cir. 1990). The jury may conclude from a plan of elaborate lies and half-truths that defendants deliberately conveyed information they knew to be false to the government. Id. at 214-15. As used in the statute, the term "knowingly" requires only that the defendant acted with knowledge of the falsity. See United States v. Lange, 528 F.2d 1280, 1287-89 (5th Cir. 1976). As in other situations, to commit an act "knowingly" is to do so with knowledge or awareness of the facts or situation, and not because of mistake, accident or some other innocent reason. See Fifth Circuit Pattern Jury Instructions, § 1.35 (1990). Knowledge of the criminal statute governing the conduct is not required. The false statement need not be made with an intent to defraud if there is an intent to mislead or to induce belief in its falsity. Reckless disregard of whether a statement is true, or a conscious effort to avoid learning the truth, can be construed as acting "knowingly." United States v. Evans, 559 F.2d 244, 246 (5th Cir. 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1015 (1978). A defendant is not relieved of the consequences of a material misrepresentation by lack of knowledge when the means of ascertaining truthfulness are available. In appropriate circumstances, the government may establish the defendant's knowledge of falsity by proving that the defendant either knew the statement was false or acted with a conscious purpose to avoid learning the truth. See United States v. West, 666 F.2d 16, 19 (2d Cir. 1981); Lange, 528 F.2d at 1288; United States v. Clearfield, 358 F. Supp. 564, 574 (E.D. Pa. 1973). Proof that the defendant acted with reckless disregard or reckless indifference may therefore satisfy the knowledge requirement, when the defendant makes a false material statement and consciously avoids learning the facts or intends to deceive the government. See United States v. Schaffer, 600 F.2d 1120, 1122 (5th Cir. 1979). The term "willfully" means no more than that the forbidden act was done deliberately and with knowledge, and does not require proof of evil intent. McClanahan v. United States, 230 F.2d 919, 924 (5th Cir. 1955), cert. denied, 352 U.S. 824 (1956); McBride v. United States, 225 F.2d 249, 255 (5th Cir. 1955), cert. denied, 350 U.S. 934 (1956). An act is done "willfully" if done voluntarily and intentionally and with the specific intent to do something the law forbids. There is no requirement that the government show evil intent on the part of a defendant in order to prove that the act was done "willfully." See generally United States v. Gregg, 612 F.2d 43, 50-51 (2d Cir. 1979); American Surety Company v. Sullivan, 7 F.2d 605, 606 (2d Cir. 1925)(Hand, J.); United States v. Peltz, 433 F.2d 48, 54-55 (2d Cir. 1970),cert. denied, 401 U.S. 955 (1971) (involving 15 U.S.C. § 32(a). See also 1 E. Devitt, C. Blackmar, M. Wolff & K. O'Malley, Federal Jury Practice and Instructions, § 17.05 (1992). 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Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: There are none so blind as those who [ knowingly ] refuse to see. [ KNOWINGLY ] PDF of the referenced 2005 HCQ paper attached at the bottom of this comment, and also the link to that 2005 HCQ paper. Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses. How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak - caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV - the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim. Nothing to see here… Just an excerpt of an episode of "Dead Zone", the TV show (S2 EP14) from 2003 that mentions coronavirus, talks about the Hydroxychloroquine being the cure, and a "lockdown." Oh and that it originated in China. 3 1/2 minutes long backup link, shortened down to 2 minutes: https://media.8kun.top/file_store/9a5eedb8478535e11e12f5268d75cdcbaea7bf3d3a0d554be550b33e51033541.mp4 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Nikko + 2,145 nb May 5, 2020 (edited) Well now anyone remember Neil Ferguson the guy responsible for a lot of the BS modelling that was totally inacurate? 😂🤣😂 Edited May 5, 2020 by El Nikko 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Profit + 46 May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Tom Kirkman said: Just an excerpt of an episode of "Dead Zone", the TV show (S2 EP14) from 2003 that mentions coronavirus, talks about the Hydroxychloroquine being the cure, and a "lockdown." Oh and that it originated in China. 3 1/2 minutes long This is the definitive proof we are living in a simulation.. or what else are we supposed to infer from that ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Tom Kirkman said: Nothing to see here… Just an excerpt of an episode of "Dead Zone", the TV show (S2 EP14) from 2003 that mentions coronavirus, talks about the Hydroxychloroquine being the cure, and a "lockdown." Oh and that it originated in China. 3 1/2 minutes long backup link, shortened down to 2 minutes: https://media.8kun.top/file_store/9a5eedb8478535e11e12f5268d75cdcbaea7bf3d3a0d554be550b33e51033541.mp4 Whisky Tango Foxtrot? Over? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Profit + 46 May 5, 2020 More seriously this episode was aired august 2003 SARS epidemic started november 2002.. It was a widely publicized topic in 2003.https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/deadly-sars-virus-history-2003-in-photos-2020-2 On March 15 WHO issued issued emergency travel advisoryhttps://www.who.int/news-room/detail/15-03-2003-world-health-organization-issues-emergency-travel-advisory A TV show taking inspiration from recent events.. nothing unusual.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Nikko + 2,145 nb May 5, 2020 Some data from the UK's Office for National Statistics. Date 5th May. 27330 deaths in England and Wales. 186 under the age of 40 or 0.68% 615 under the age of 50 or 2.25% 2035 under the age of 60 or 7.45% 5060 under the age of 70 or 18.5% 22,270 over the age of 70 or 81.5% 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 May 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jim Profit said: More seriously this episode was aired august 2003 SARS epidemic started november 2002.. It was a widely publicized topic in 2003.https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/deadly-sars-virus-history-2003-in-photos-2020-2 On March 15 WHO issued issued emergency travel advisoryhttps://www.who.int/news-room/detail/15-03-2003-world-health-organization-issues-emergency-travel-advisory A TV show taking inspiration from recent events.. nothing unusual.. You might want to take a look at the year of those episodes there, Jimmy. Edit: Oh, and you might be interested to know this is the year 2020. Edited May 5, 2020 by Dan Warnick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites