TailingsPond + 633 GE July 24 17 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Oil demand is fine, inventories are declining. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Refiners-Q2-Results-Expected-to-Dull-on-Dampening-Demand.html WTI down to $77.47 NYSE: OXY down to 60.07 USD -3.38 (-5.33%) in past 5 days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 25 (edited) Things are now winding down, the era of Climate panic and CO2-phobia is fading fast in the rearview mirror. The Transition is dead and gone. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Net-Zero-Ambitions-Hit-Major-Roadblocks-in-Europe-UK-and-US.html "Net-Zero transition targets touted so proudly in Europe, the UK, and the U.S. are proving to be a lot more challenging to hit than expected. Euronews: three of the biggest economies in the EU—Italy, France, and Germany—were falling short of the EU’s targets. Rhodium Group: The U.S. will fail to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 50% from 2005 levels by 2030." "Local opposition to wind and solar installations is on the rise, EV demand is slowing down, and federal agencies just lost the privilege to devise rules and regulations based on their own interpretation of the law, known as the Chevron deference." Edited July 25 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 25 2 hours ago, TailingsPond said: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Refiners-Q2-Results-Expected-to-Dull-on-Dampening-Demand.html WTI down to $77.47 NYSE: OXY down to 60.07 USD -3.38 (-5.33%) in past 5 days. Inventories are rapidly declining showing strong demand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 25 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: transition targets touted so proudly in Europe, the UK, and the U.S. are proving to be a lot more challenging to hit than expected. Setbacks and failures are part of the learning process. Nobody said anything about quitting. Are you the kind of person that always takes the easiest and cheapest way out? Turns around at any "roadblock?" Real leaders do not accomplish great things because the task is easy, they do it because it is hard. You can keep your defeatist attitude in China. Some of us have sack and guts. Edited July 25 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM July 25 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Inventories are rapidly declining showing strong demand. and yet right now Crude is heading down and hard can it hold at $81 tonight???????? my crystal ball says no........no one wants crude...maybe next week????? oh wait China storage is completely full......nope maybe next month???? nope summer travel is over Brent is heading lower under $80 in the next few weeks But you think demand is great??? go for it buy Brent right now Jump in there and buy a million barrels you can sell it next week and make a fortune you can pick up some Brent right now at the rock bottom price of $81 you were pumping earlier this year $100 Brent in 2024........when do you think this will occur ???? in one of your pipe dreams??? Reality China imports are heading down and the Saudis do not know how to stem the oversupply and decreasing prices Green Machine. .....is in charge ...Pesky EVs in China now command over 50 percent of the new vehicle sales and ....Oh my it is increasing yet again ......60 percent at the end of the year???? my magic eight ball says....yes definitely AP News OPEC+ production cuts deepen with extensions from Saudi Arabia, Russia and other oil giants NEW YORK (AP) — Some members of oil cartel OPEC, led by Saudi Arabia, and allied producers like Russia are again deepening their voluntary... . Mar 3, 2024 CNN OPEC+ extends oil output cuts into 2025 The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies — a group of leading oil producers known as OPEC+ — agreed Sunday to... . 1 month ago WSJ Exclusive | OPEC+ Agrees to Extend Production Cuts in Bid to Boost Oil Prices Deal signals oil prices will remain elevated through the U.S. presidential election. . 1 month ago 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 25 3 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Setbacks and failures are part of the learning process. Nobody said anything about quitting. Are you the kind of person that always takes the easiest and cheapest way out? Turns around at any "roadblock?" Real leaders do not accomplish great things because the task is easy, they do it because it is hard. You can keep your defeatist attitude in China. Some of us have sack and guts. Things are now winding down, the era of Climate panic and CO2-phobia is fading fast in the rearview mirror. The Transition is dead and gone. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Net-Zero-Ambitions-Hit-Major-Roadblocks-in-Europe-UK-and-US.html "Net-Zero transition targets touted so proudly in Europe, the UK, and the U.S. are proving to be a lot more challenging to hit than expected. Euronews: three of the biggest economies in the EU—Italy, France, and Germany—were falling short of the EU’s targets. Rhodium Group: The U.S. will fail to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 50% from 2005 levels by 2030." "Local opposition to wind and solar installations is on the rise, EV demand is slowing down, and federal agencies just lost the privilege to devise rules and regulations based on their own interpretation of the law, known as the Chevron deference." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 25 2 hours ago, notsonice said: and yet right now Crude is heading down and hard can it hold at $81 tonight???????? my crystal ball says no........no one wants crude...maybe next week????? oh wait China storage is completely full......nope maybe next month???? nope summer travel is over Brent is heading lower under $80 in the next few weeks But you think demand is great??? go for it buy Brent right now Jump in there and buy a million barrels you can sell it next week and make a fortune you can pick up some Brent right now at the rock bottom price of $81 you were pumping earlier this year $100 Brent in 2024........when do you think this will occur ???? in one of your pipe dreams??? Reality China imports are heading down and the Saudis do not know how to stem the oversupply and decreasing prices Green Machine. .....is in charge ...Pesky EVs in China now command over 50 percent of the new vehicle sales and ....Oh my it is increasing yet again ......60 percent at the end of the year???? my magic eight ball says....yes definitely AP News OPEC+ production cuts deepen with extensions from Saudi Arabia, Russia and other oil giants NEW YORK (AP) — Some members of oil cartel OPEC, led by Saudi Arabia, and allied producers like Russia are again deepening their voluntary... . Mar 3, 2024 CNN OPEC+ extends oil output cuts into 2025 The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies — a group of leading oil producers known as OPEC+ — agreed Sunday to... . 1 month ago WSJ Exclusive | OPEC+ Agrees to Extend Production Cuts in Bid to Boost Oil Prices Deal signals oil prices will remain elevated through the U.S. presidential election. . 1 month ago Oil inventories are declining fast... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 25 55 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Things are now winding down, the era of Climate panic and CO2-phobia is fading fast in the rearview mirror. The Transition is dead and gone. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Net-Zero-Ambitions-Hit-Major-Roadblocks-in-Europe-UK-and-US.html I read the link man, It doesn't say anywhere that people are abandoning CO2 reduction efforts. They straight out wrote "emissions will decline by between 32% and 43% by 2030" - that is not quitting. They are just not hitting targets and as a result of that people will likely INCREASE efforts - not abandon goals. Imagine you draw up a budget designed to save money for a vacation. Your goal is to save $250/month for a year. However, after a few months you notice that you have only been putting $190/month into the vacation account. Does missing a savings target mean you should abandon the vacation goal? No. Smart people would instead reassess their spending, adjust their behaviour, and then get their vacation in the end. Weaklings pick the easiest, quickest, or cheapest option. They lack self-control for delayed satisfaction and therefore fail to achieve great things. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 25 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Oil inventories are declining fast... The price of oil is falling fast, refineries don't want much more as the stockpiles of downstream products are high. WTI is down to 76.86. It was $77.47 just seven hours ago. If the production cuts were stopped crude inventories would soar and people would get stuck with less than worthless oil. Remember when the crude price was negative? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM July 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Oil inventories are declining fast... and yet you post no numbers...........all you have is BS babble Edited July 25 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM July 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Oil inventories are declining fast... Crude oil is flat and YOY up.........declining fast????? you should stop using drugs Weekly U.S. Ending Stocks of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels) 2023-Feb 02/03 826,690 02/10 842,973 02/17 850,620 02/24 851,786 2023-Mar 03/03 850,092 03/10 851,642 03/17 852,759 03/24 845,270 03/31 841,127 2023-Apr 04/07 840,124 04/14 833,931 04/21 827,856 04/28 824,571 2023-May 05/05 824,598 05/12 827,210 05/19 813,122 05/26 815,093 2023-Jun 06/02 812,774 06/09 818,811 06/16 813,261 06/23 802,307 06/30 799,341 2023-Jul 07/07 804,886 07/14 804,179 07/21 803,579 07/28 786,530 2023-Aug 08/04 793,376 08/11 788,016 08/18 782,476 08/25 772,486 2023-Sep 09/01 766,977 09/08 771,222 09/15 769,686 09/22 767,267 09/29 765,343 2023-Oct 10/06 775,513 10/13 771,022 10/20 772,394 10/27 773,167 2023-Nov 11/03 787,036 11/10 790,628 11/17 799,328 11/24 801,251 2023-Dec 12/01 796,948 12/08 792,684 12/15 796,222 12/22 789,901 12/29 785,453 2024-Jan 01/05 787,397 01/12 785,501 01/19 777,188 01/26 779,314 2024-Feb 02/02 785,449 02/09 798,213 02/16 802,475 02/23 807,417 2024-Mar 03/01 809,490 03/08 808,550 03/15 807,348 03/22 811,257 03/29 815,058 2024-Apr 04/05 821,494 04/12 824,877 04/19 819,302 04/26 827,161 2024-May 05/03 826,746 05/10 824,831 05/17 827,649 05/24 823,978 05/31 826,109 2024-Jun 06/07 830,178 06/14 828,017 06/21 832,893 06/28 821,134 2024-Jul 07/05 818,168 07/12 813,948 07/19 810,897 Edited July 25 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 25 Funny, you never see solar panel spills. Massive oil spill after tanker containing 1,400,000 litres of fuel capsizes (msn.com) 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 25 (edited) 16 hours ago, TailingsPond said: I read the link man, It doesn't say anywhere that people are abandoning CO2 reduction efforts. They straight out wrote "emissions will decline by between 32% and 43% by 2030" - that is not quitting. They are just not hitting targets and as a result of that people will likely INCREASE efforts - not abandon goals. Imagine you draw up a budget designed to save money for a vacation. Your goal is to save $250/month for a year. However, after a few months you notice that you have only been putting $190/month into the vacation account. Does missing a savings target mean you should abandon the vacation goal? No. Smart people would instead reassess their spending, adjust their behaviour, and then get their vacation in the end. Weaklings pick the easiest, quickest, or cheapest option. They lack self-control for delayed satisfaction and therefore fail to achieve great things. Man, it's over. Kick back and relax, your guy has been transitioned into the ashcan of history. America is going to get greener due to bountiful CO2. Enjoy. Turn on the air conditioner in your fossil fuel car. Take the family to the beach. Light up the BBQ. Edited July 25 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 26 3 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Man, it's over. Kick back and relax, your guy has been transitioned into the ashcan of history. So tomorrow there will be no efforts to fight pollution? I think you will find it is not over. As long as I am alive the fight against pollution will never be over. I will not "kick back and relax." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: So tomorrow there will be no efforts to fight pollution? I think you will find it is not over. As long as I am alive the fight against pollution will never be over. I will not "kick back and relax." Nah, don't worry about it. It's over now. Just relax. Fire up the BBQ and have some fun, sounds like you haven't had much lately. Edited July 26 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 26 On 7/24/2024 at 10:40 PM, notsonice said: and yet right now Crude is heading down and hard can it hold at $81 tonight???????? my crystal ball says no........no one wants crude...maybe next week????? oh wait China storage is completely full......nope maybe next month???? nope summer travel is over Brent is heading lower under $80 in the next few weeks But you think demand is great??? go for it buy Brent right now Jump in there and buy a million barrels you can sell it next week and make a fortune you can pick up some Brent right now at the rock bottom price of $81 you were pumping earlier this year $100 Brent in 2024........when do you think this will occur ???? in one of your pipe dreams??? Reality China imports are heading down and the Saudis do not know how to stem the oversupply and decreasing prices Green Machine. .....is in charge ...Pesky EVs in China now command over 50 percent of the new vehicle sales and ....Oh my it is increasing yet again ......60 percent at the end of the year???? my magic eight ball says....yes definitely AP News OPEC+ production cuts deepen with extensions from Saudi Arabia, Russia and other oil giants NEW YORK (AP) — Some members of oil cartel OPEC, led by Saudi Arabia, and allied producers like Russia are again deepening their voluntary... . Mar 3, 2024 CNN OPEC+ extends oil output cuts into 2025 The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies — a group of leading oil producers known as OPEC+ — agreed Sunday to... . 1 month ago WSJ Exclusive | OPEC+ Agrees to Extend Production Cuts in Bid to Boost Oil Prices Deal signals oil prices will remain elevated through the U.S. presidential election. . 1 month ago I guess you don't read too good...a recurrent theme on these pages. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Crude-Oil-Inventories-Continue-to-Fall.html "Crude oil inventories in the United States fell again this week, this time by 3.9 million barrels for the week ending July 19, according to The American Petroleum Institute (API). The reality was a far cry from analyst predictions which pegged the inventory move at a 700,000-barrel build for the week. For the week prior, the API reported a 4.44 million barrel draw in crude inventories. This week marks the fourth week in a row of API-estimated inventory draws for crude oil, for a total loss of 19.4 million barrels during that time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 26 5 hours ago, TailingsPond said: So tomorrow there will be no efforts to fight pollution? I think you will find it is not over. As long as I am alive the fight against pollution will never be over. I will not "kick back and relax." You should learn to read pollution and health tables before you end up getting kicked around again. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM July 26 pesky solar panels.......... Peak Coal already happened........one solar panel at a time Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com Coal Share of China's Power Output Drops to Record Low The share of coal in China's power generation has fallen below 60% for the first time ever. Energy think tank Ember: The share of clean... . 13 hours ago 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,211 DM July 26 Peak coal already happened.... pesky solar panels are coming online at a rate that dooms coal power plants to be only needed as backup power supplies China installs more than 100GW of solar in first half of 2024 RenewEconomy https://reneweconomy.com.au › china-installs-more-tha... 2 days ago — Government data shows China has already installed more than 100GW of new solar capacity this year, bringing the total to more than 700GW. Jul 11, 2024 — China added 102.48GW of new PV installations between January and June 2024, according to the latest data from China's National Energy ... pv magazine X · pvmagazine 6 likes · 2 days ago Chinese PV Industry Brief: China adds 102.48 GW of solar in H1: China's ... new solar capacity in the first half of 2024, bringing its total… China Exceeds 100 GW Solar Installations Mark In H1/2024 taiyang-news.info https://taiyang-news.info › china-exceeds-100-gw-solar... 4 days ago — China has exceeded 100 GW of solar PV installations within H1/2024, taking the country's total deployed capacity to over 713 GW, according to ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ecocharger said: You should learn to read pollution and health tables before you end up getting kicked around again. Nah, don't worry about it. It's over now. Just relax. Fire up the BBQ and have some fun, sounds like you haven't had much lately. In your fantasies you think you can debate and win? You are a science-denying, China-loving, traitor. You say "it is over." So when the green revolution continues today, and it will, you must accept your mistake or just admit you are committed to lies and deception. You know deep down nothing is over. FYI I am good with the grill; It runs off natural gas, not charcoal. Much less cancer risk, no ashes to clean, no tanks to fill. Edited July 26 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 26 7 hours ago, notsonice said: pesky solar panels.......... Peak Coal already happened........one solar panel at a time Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com Coal Share of China's Power Output Drops to Record Low The share of coal in China's power generation has fallen below 60% for the first time ever. Energy think tank Ember: The share of clean... . 13 hours ago Coal production is increasing in China. Relax and enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, TailingsPond said: In your fantasies you think you can debate and win? You are a science-denying, China-loving, traitor. You say "it is over." So when the green revolution continues today, and it will, you must accept your mistake or just admit you are committed to lies and deception. You know deep down nothing is over. FYI I am good with the grill; It runs off natural gas, not charcoal. Much less cancer risk, no ashes to clean, no tanks to fill. Man, you lost big time and are still blissfully unaware of it. No surprise there, self-awareness is a rare commodity among the loony left. That's fine, just relax and fire up your BBQ with natural gas, and pump your gasoline tank full of fossil fuels, push your gasoline grass mower around your back yard...the world is fossil fuel friendly in your neighborhood. You contribute to the fossil fuel future whenever you enjoy life. Edited July 26 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,423 DL July 26 Here is what kicked the late Biden administration in the mouth and from which it never recovered. The rule of law. The new lawyer candidate was not helpful to old Joe in avoiding this federal catastrophe in the courts. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Federal-Judge-Blocks-Bidens-LNG-Pause.htm "In his ruling, Judge Cain said that the government’s move had been arbitrary, capricious, and unconstitutional and that it had violated the Natural Gas Act. Judge Cain added that the Department of Energy had gone “above and beyond its scope of authority.”" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 633 GE July 26 41 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Man, you lost big time and are still blissfully unaware of it. [] Here is what kicked the late Biden administration in the mouth and from which it never recovered. Why are you blithering on about Biden? He is not even running anymore and the election has very little to do with the green revolution (the thread topic). The world is bigger then the USA election and the fight against pollution will continue. Even within the USA powerful states like California will carry on with their own environmental plans, as they always have, regardless of who is POTUS. Trump won't debate Harris yet, probably because he wouldn't be going up against an old man and would / will get his ass handed to him. You will be wishing that Biden was still running very soon. Go back to explaining how coal is a non-polluter and that we should mimic the great nation of China. Spare us your political subterfuge in this thread traitor. Use the political divide thread if you must spread lies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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