GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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11 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

A sweep of elections by Republicans should result in a new freedom of transportation choices, which would benefit the least well-off citizens who rely on inexpensive second-hand fossil fuel vehicles for family transport.

The latest forecast results are favorable for this freedom of  choice, which is consistent with traditional American values.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

"An Echelon Insights survey found Trump up 5 points in the Keystone State, and CNN/SSRS has the former president up by 1 in Georgia. In aggregate, this has been enough to push our model modestly back in Harris’s direction. Currently, our forecast gives Trump a 53 out of 100 chance of winning the election, and gives Harris a 46 out of 100 chance."

Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com

 

Jul 19, 2024 — Former President Donald Trump has reiterated an openness for Chinese automakers to build cars in the US as a way to boost the economy, ...

 

yep more transportation choices...........and guess what these will be

 

Inexpensive EVs and PHEVs for the masses .........In Chinesse owned factories right here in the US

$20,000 to $30,000 EV Suvs.............  No tarrifs that way

 

China designed PHEV Pickups at 30 percent less than your beloved US made Ford trucks....

 

Low wage jobs working for your beloved China in the good ole USA

 

Remember your pal is anti Union.........Minimum wage jobs on the assembly line ....a race to the bottom

 

And the profits from these China Factories in the US.....just buy up more land in the US

 

And you think that the Chinesse will build Clunkers?????????? ha ha ha ha

 

 

 

 

 

Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com

 

 

 

 

Jul 19, 2024 — Former President Donald Trump has reiterated an openness for Chinese automakers to build cars in the US as a way to boost the economy, ...

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Answer me this.  Do you think Elon Musk is sponsoring Trump for nothing?

Do you deny that Musk spoke at a Trump rally just because NBC reported it?

Simple questions.

PS Proud to be a Canadian, and didn't whine at all, just pointing out observations.  If you don't think there is a Musk-Trump relationship you are just not looking because you don't want it to be true.

 

wonder what Elon is going to do when China sets up EV factories in the US.........Trump invited the Chinesse to do it......

 

who will buy a Tesla when you can get an EV  made in the USA in a Chinese owned factories for 30 or 40 percent less?????????

and Tesla solar panels ........does anyone buy them???????????????

 

Chinese companies will have at least 20 GW worth of annual solar panel production capacity on U.S. soil within the next year, enough to serve about half the U.S. market, according to a Reuters analysis. The Reuters Power Up newsletter provides everything you need to know about the global energy industry.14 hours ago

 

Chinese solar firms go where US tariffs don't reach - Reuters

Reuters

https://www.reuters.com

 

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2 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Answer me this.  Do you think Elon Musk is sponsoring Trump for nothing?

Do you deny that Musk spoke at a Trump rally just because NBC reported it?

Simple questions.

PS Proud to be a Canadian, and didn't whine at all, just pointing out observations.  If you don't think there is a Musk-Trump relationship you are just not looking because you don't want it to be true.

 

What the f**k do you care if Elon is supporting Trump? Probably is, but he's more patriotic than 80% of the Senate and Congress, both parties! You are a stirrer of crap and everyone on this site probably knows it, hence the 2627 posts with +683, and alot of the +'s are from your idiot friend Not-so-nice. 

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12 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

A sweep of elections by Republicans should result in a new freedom of transportation choices, which would benefit the least well-off citizens who rely on inexpensive second-hand fossil fuel vehicles for family transport.

The latest forecast results are favorable for this freedom of  choice, which is consistent with traditional American values.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

"An Echelon Insights survey found Trump up 5 points in the Keystone State, and CNN/SSRS has the former president up by 1 in Georgia. In aggregate, this has been enough to push our model modestly back in Harris’s direction. Currently, our forecast gives Trump a 53 out of 100 chance of winning the election, and gives Harris a 46 out of 100 chance."

how about this poll out of Iowa ...what do you think????????

The Des Moines Register

Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day. Here's how

1 day ago

 

Now you tell me if this supports your post???????

 

do you think they will take down all of those wind farms  in Iowa "cancer causing.......oh my who babbled that wind farms cause cancer??????" ...Or do you think the fine people of Iowa support the Green Agenda

 

enjoy the reality

 

Iowa is a leader in wind energy, generating more electricity from wind than any other state: 

 

 

• Low utility costs: Wind energy is the cheapest new source of electricity generation, which keeps utility costs low and stable. 
   
   

• Production: In 2023, wind power accounted for 59% of Iowa's electricity generation. 
   
   
• Location: Most wind farms are in the northern and western parts of the state, where the winds are strongest. 
   
   
• Job creation: The wind energy sector in Iowa supports over 3,953 jobs. 
   
   
• Landowner revenue: Landowners who host turbines receive millions of dollars in revenue. 
   
   
• County tax revenue: Counties receive millions of dollars in property tax revenue from wind energy. 
   
   

Iowa's wind energy success is due to a combination of factors, including:

• Forward-thinking policy: Iowa was a leader in wind energy before it became popular.

• Business-friendly approach: Iowa's business-friendly approach has contributed to its success.

• Collective effort: Iowa's wind energy success is the result of a collective effort. 
   
   

Iowa's wind energy success has also attracted companies like Google, Facebook, and Microsoft, which have chosen Iowa for their energy-intensive facilities. 

 

 

Iowa is also developing its solar power industry. The state's largest solar farm, Holiday Creek Solar Farm, came online in 2022. Two additional 150-megawatt solar farms are scheduled to begin operating by the end of 2024. 

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20 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

What the f**k do you care if Elon is supporting Trump? Probably is, but he's more patriotic than 80% of the Senate and Congress, both parties! You are a stirrer of crap and everyone on this site probably knows it, hence the 2627 posts with +683, and alot of the +'s are from your idiot friend Not-so-nice. 

He is, campaign contributions have to be reported (to some extent).  Elon is also certainly buying Trump with undisclosed deals. 

If I stir up crap that is because there is crap here to stir up!  I will defend the environment and human rights. Would you like to deny me of my freedom of speech? Be patriotic and allow my liberty!

Don't be sore most of the cult ran away from the forum, they got ashamed after all the failure.  You can't be wrong damn always for years and show face; well I guess we do have the local clown who still entertains us.

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38 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

What the f**k do you care if Elon is supporting Trump? Probably is, but he's more patriotic than 80% of the Senate and Congress, both parties! You are a stirrer of crap and everyone on this site probably knows it, hence the 2627 posts with +683, and alot of the +'s are from your idiot friend Not-so-nice. 

ha ha ha ha

Looks like tailings pond once again reigns king on the forum

He is the most populat member once again.....oh my 47 upvotes this week............

 POPULAR MEMBERS

1. This Week

   GE

   TailingsPond1
   PLUS  47

In my book you are the Idiot ......letting a Canadian outsmart you day and night over and over again..........

• so easy for him to do.....Look at yourself.....Just a tired old loser living in the crappiest part of the Land of Lincoln....well that does not say much does it......as there is not too many nice places in Illinois........okay Decatur is a garden spot 

Calgary or Illinois........which is a better place to live...........you tell me......

 

now on the Upvotes for Tailing pond

Sorry I just got caught up ...was falling behind in my duty....thanks for reminding me to upvote the crap out Tailings pond

 

And I am honored that you notice I do upvote the crap out of him.........

 

PS anyone upvoting losers such as yourself these days???????????? ha ha ha 

 

Just for you......so you read this ....I am posting this again for you ....Enjoy the fuck out of the Green Transition ....just for you

run Luddite run

 

As the end for coal nears in Illinois.....pesky renewables

 

time is ticking 

 

Reuters

In Midwest first, Illinois bans fossil fuel electricity sources

Illinois became on Wednesday the first Midwest state to adopt a law that sets a roadmap to ban coal in the state, eliminate other...

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Sep 15, 2021

 

CleanTechnica

Battery Storage Can Maintain Reliability, Even After Fossils Retire

New analysis shows that Illinois can maintain reliability even after retiring fossil resources by deploying 3 GW of 4-hour battery storage.

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Aug 3, 2024

 

 

RWE

RWE begins onsite construction on its first utility-scale solar project in Illinois to support rapidly growing demand for clean power

RWE, a leading renewable energy company in the U.S., is building its first utility-scale solar project in Illinois to help the state meet...

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Jun 11, 2024

 

Newsweek

Illinois to Get 'Largest Solar Project East of the Mississippi'

Construction is underway on an 800-megawatt solar project in southern Illinois, which developer Swift Current Energy describes as the largest US solar project...

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Aug 30, 2024

 

Environment America

5 surprising facts about renewable energy growth in Illinois

Illinois produces 2.5 times as much energy from the sun and wind as it did a decade ago. Find more clean energy facts here.

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5 days ago

Energy News Network

Study suggests a big role for grid battery storage as Illinois shutters its coal power plants

The latest PJM capacity auction results showed capacity prices increasing from $28.92/MW-Day for the 2024/25 period to $269.92/MW-Day — a nearly...

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pv magazine USA

Illinois energy storage legislation may save ratepayers $30 per month

The pair of bills call for 8.5 GW of energy storage procurement across the state by 2050. The grid updates are forecast to save Illinois consumers $30 per...

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2 weeks ago

 

 

 

Edited November 4 by notsonice

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1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

He is, campaign contributions have to be reported (to some extent).  Elon is also certainly buying Trump with undisclosed deals. 

And you know this as FACT? You don't know this for FACT!!! You still living in mommies basement? Get out in the real world, come on down south of the border and see what real life is about.......

and no your not going to chase me off this site, nor is notsonice. Your rants on environmental crap is amusing to say the least. 

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1 hour ago, notsonice said:

He is the most populat member once again.....oh my 47 upvotes this week............

Because you and Rob keep giving him upvotes on crap. Dips**t!!

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2 hours ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

And you know this as FACT? You don't know this for FACT!!! You still living in mommies basement? Get out in the real world, come on down south of the border and see what real life is about.......

and no your not going to chase me off this site, nor is notsonice. Your rants on environmental crap is amusing to say the least. 

Nothing is known as fact.  I've been in the states plenty, why do you consider it "the real world?"  Living in hardship?  As for "mommies basement" we currently own two houses and a condo, one house has a basement suite - you could rent it from me!

Stop avoiding the simple questions:

Do you think Elon Musk is sponsoring Trump for nothing?

Do you deny that Musk spoke at a Trump rally just because NBC reported it?

Think for yourself. 

Edited November 4 by TailingsPond

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1 hour ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

Because you and Rob keep giving him upvotes on crap. Dips**t!!

Why do you care about my popularity?  You are just sore that an energy price forum is not 100% pro-oil.

Just an FYI all votes count, even those who hold environmentalist or liberal views.

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2 hours ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

Because you and Rob keep giving him upvotes on crap. Dips**t!!

keep giving him upvotes ..........     ha ha ha .....and it is all for you..........

Now you were babbling about Tailings pond not getting to vote in the US election.....nope he does not

and you .....you get to vote ....yet your vote is meaninless.....You must love living in the heart of one of the most secure Democrat strong holds in the nation............the elections in your state.....never even close

You live and vote in Illinois and you vote Republican???? yes I take it 

and your guy never wins any Electoral College Votes....since 1988?????

that would mean your vote has not mattered in 36 years.....keep trying Charlie Brown......someday in your lifetime you will kick the ball???? ( I doubt it your guy will win in your state).....Until then Your vote counts just as much as the Guy from Canada who does not have a right to vote.

Now how is your Congressional votes going these days........3 out of 17???? and your state keeps losing republican seats....what was it 30 years ago 9 out of 22 house seats were republican......

and the Senate....oh my blue and blue

So you are in the same boat as Tailings pond........ your vote or opinion really does not matter......on a national level..........alas you get to elect your local Sherriff....nice consolation prize

 

Now this years Presidential election?????? Unless you think your guy will turn Illinois Red??? ha ha ha

Now if you were from Iowa..........Hold onto your pants Charlie Brown .....it looks like Kamala is getting a chance to kick the ball

PS I just upvoted Tailings again ...3 times now........ he is at plus 49 this week now ...enjoy

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1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

Why do you care about my popularity?  You are just sore that an energy price forum is not 100% pro-oil.

Just an FYI all votes count, even those who hold environmentalist or liberal views.

Turd Pond...just a simple question......you worked on Tar sands tailings ???? or did you work on  Hard rock or Soft Rock tailings disposal (coal or potash) ??????????.....are do you just like boating on turd ponds???????

 

PS wow you are at Plus 84 this week in popularity....Old Dickhead will not not be happy that the Forum is showing you so much love

Enjoy being the King ot the Oil Price Forum this week ....keep up the good work

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23 minutes ago, notsonice said:

Turd Pond...just a simple question......you worked on Tar sands tailings ???? or did you work on  Hard rock or Soft Rock tailings disposal (coal or potash) ??????????.....are do you just like boating on turd ponds???????

 

PS wow you are at Plus 84 this week in popularity....Old Dickhead will not not be happy that the Forum is showing you so much love

Enjoy being the King ot the Oil Price Forum this week ....keep up the good work

That'd be old "big-dick-head for you!!!  PM me your wife, girl-friend photo, so I can get a look at what would be with ya, arsehole!!

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31 minutes ago, notsonice said:

Enjoy being the King ot the Oil Price Forum this week ....keep up the good work

notsonice, you truly are a effing idiot. I will go back and help him out and remove downs to ups just for you. You both are a serious joke to this site. The ya go notsosmart, I have reversed my votes to up to help the poor man get more notoriety on here. 

Edited November 4 by Old-Ruffneck

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3 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

You both are a serious joke to this site. 

What content do you provide?  I at least stand for something, you just watch and insult.

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13 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

You both are a serious joke to this site. 

The jokers are the ones who refuse to answer simple questions:

Do you think Elon Musk is sponsoring Trump for nothing?

The idea that a Trump win will hurt EVs is laughable.

I actually like the idea of Musk just using Trump as a puppet.   

Edited November 5 by TailingsPond

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2 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

What content do you provide?  I at least stand for something, you just watch and insult.

Go back in history here and search, what content is there to provide to you and your "green" agenda crap folks on here that won't even admit that the Green New Deal is a tax on the working man. Look at last 2 years world-wide the effects trying to change over to a non FF world. Trillions of USA dollars wasted on mega projects that deface the earth more so than oil. You Lithium lovers need take it to calm your brains down. There is very little "Green" that isn't as or more harmful to the Planet.

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3 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

The jokers are the ones who refuse to answer simple questions:

Do you think Elon Musk is sponsoring Trump for nothing?

The idea that a Trump win will hurt EVs is laughable.

I actually like the idea of Musk just using Trump as a puppet.   

Already answered ya, simple reply was all that was needed. And again, wtf do you care Canadian? This isn't yer business unless your doing business in the USofA

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4 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

Go back in history here and search, what content is there to provide to you and your "green" agenda crap folks on here that won't even admit that the Green New Deal is a tax on the working man. Look at last 2 years world-wide the effects trying to change over to a non FF world. Trillions of USA dollars wasted on mega projects that deface the earth more so than oil. You Lithium lovers need take it to calm your brains down. There is very little "Green" that isn't as or more harmful to the Planet.

Fair enough, while I support environmentalism I am not a supporter of the "Green New Deal" specifically.

I fully understand that doing things with respect to the environment is more expensive than pure exploitation and polluting the earth.  Nice things cost money.

The fossil industry can clean up their act and even that is okay with me.  I have advocated for switching coal to natural gas which is still a fossil fuel because it is less toxic.

Thank you for providing independent thought.

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11 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

Already answered ya, simple reply was all that was needed. And again, wtf do you care Canadian? This isn't yer business unless your doing business in the USofA

The entire world does business with the USA.  We share a border.  I visit the US regularly.

You asked a question, I answered. Simple.  Some here avoid answering questions.

Do you think Musk is funding Trump for nothing?

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You didn't like my answer about the Deep Water Horizon incident. I explained it carefully that while tragic, the oil was injected with enzymes so that the bacteria would eat it up. Which a year later, no traces of oil. Your response was what about the dead workers. What about them?? As an old roughneck, you know everyday you go to the rig could be your last. While I do feel bad for the families and the men, it still doesn't render my interpretation of the event. You go to work on an off-shore rig, the risk factor of not coming home goes up exponentially!!! They made a choice. 

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34 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

That'd be old "big-dick-head for you!!!  PM me your wife, girl-friend photo, so I can get a look at what would be with ya, arsehole!!

incel?

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2 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

Do you think Musk is funding Trump for nothing?

Absolutely

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5 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

You didn't like my answer about the Deep Water Horizon incident. I explained it carefully that while tragic, the oil was injected with enzymes so that the bacteria would eat it up. Which a year later, no traces of oil. Your response was what about the dead workers. What about them?? As an old roughneck, you know everyday you go to the rig could be your last. While I do feel bad for the families and the men, it still doesn't render my interpretation of the event. You go to work on an off-shore rig, the risk factor of not coming home goes up exponentially!!! They made a choice. 

There are plenty of traces of oil as tar ball in the sand.  They are not super bad but the pollution is not gone; do not kid yourself.

The disaster destroyed the entire fishing and tourism industry for an extended period!

I agree with the hazard pay stuff.

Edited November 5 by TailingsPond

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2 minutes ago, Old-Ruffneck said:

Absolutely

Well that is pretty dull of you.

$75M just to be friends? Come on man, Trump loves money.