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14 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

If you simply cannot find any challenge to the greenhouse gas paper, then just admit defeat and I will accept your admission as a step forward in your enlightenment.

That is not how reality works.  Coe moved on, I showed you that clearly. Just contact him already, praise him for ending all climate science with one paper!  See what he says, or do you still lack the gonads to contact him? 

You can keep your misguided beliefs all you want.  If you want to imagine you defeated me go right ahead.

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34 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

If you simply cannot find any challenge to the greenhouse gas paper, then just admit defeat and I will accept your admission as a step forward in your enlightenment.

You really think that reputable scientists have to respond to trash or else it becomes some sort of truth? 

Are you as gullible as Ron who thinks YouTube is a reference?  Or Tom who thinks his e-newspaper opinion articles matter?

 

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8 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

You really think that reputable scientists have to respond to trash or else it becomes some sort of truth? 

Are you as gullible as Ron who thinks YouTube is a reference?  Or Tom who thinks his e-newspaper opinion articles matter?

 

Apparently you do not know how most journals work... Students are FORCED to publish into these journals multiple times to "graduate" and NO ONE, absolutely no one EVER reads any of that garbage, let alone tries to duplicate said "research".  Yet those "articles" show up on google searches and in "Scientific" American or Nature quite often and are often referenced in others as "reality".  .

Here is the rub: You CANNOT get $$$ as a professor or student to try and duplicate someone else's work.  In other words the check function on ANYTHING published, does NOT EXIST today.  The ONLY checks done are usually done by guys outside the PHD "professor" training industry or by professors as they retire and do not have to hunt down $$$ for their department.  If said professor does this before they retire you get  your ass canned--> and everyone in these so called "science" departments knows it .  It is open knowledge for all prospective students and professors, as said canning happens all the time due to lack of $$$ coming in or PHD students being graduated.  In other words, anyone with MORALS gets shit canned out of the science department..  You get your job based on how much $$$ you bring in every year, not based on if Anything you publish is partially correct let alone accurate and checked by someone else running the same experiment. 

Very rarely does one department head have the ability to run SIMULTANEOUS identical experiments such as the long standing fruit fly experiment,but even they have been cut back to a SINGLE experiment as soon as it showed failure. 

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1 hour ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Apparently you do not know how most journals work... Students are FORCED to publish into these journals multiple times to "graduate" and NO ONE, absolutely no one EVER reads any of that garbage, let alone tries to duplicate said "research".  Yet those "articles" show up on google searches and in "Scientific" American or Nature quite often and are often referenced in others as "reality".  .

Here is the rub: You CANNOT get $$$ as a professor or student to try and duplicate someone else's work.  In other words the check function on ANYTHING published, does NOT EXIST today.  The ONLY checks done are usually done by guys outside the PHD "professor" training industry or by professors as they retire and do not have to hunt down $$$ for their department.  If said professor does this before they retire you get  your ass canned--> and everyone in these so called "science" departments knows it .  It is open knowledge for all prospective students and professors, as said canning happens all the time due to lack of $$$ coming in or PHD students being graduated.  In other words, anyone with MORALS gets shit canned out of the science department..  You get your job based on how much $$$ you bring in every year, not based on if Anything you publish is partially correct let alone accurate and checked by someone else running the same experiment. 

Very rarely does one department head have the ability to run SIMULTANEOUS identical experiments such as the long standing fruit fly experiment,but even they have been cut back to a SINGLE experiment as soon as it showed failure. 

Students are FORCED to publish into these journals multiple times to "graduate" and NO ONE, absolutely no one EVER reads any of that garbage????

 

your statement is a load of bs.........on every level

 

so you have a masters and this is your first hand experience??? You have a PhD degree???? you are a professor??????

I read all of your BS.... do you even have a bachelors degree??????

a masters in mining or tunneling??????? how is that grand global put all roads in tunnel project coming along?????

 

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The Biden Transition is now back-pedaling in high gear, oil and gasoline production is at an all-time high, major oil companies have ditched their transition targets. 

The public has voted with their wallets, EVs are experiencing collapsing sales, fosil fuel vehicles are going in the opposite direction, ratcheting up.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Crude-Oil-Gasoline-Inventories-Continue-to-Drop.html

"Crude oil inventories in the United States fell this week by 1.519 million barrels for the week ending March 15, according to The American Petroleum Institute (API), after analysts had predicted a 77,000 barrel build. "

"Gasoline inventories also fell this week. Gasoline inventories fell 1.574 million barrels, after falling by 3.750 million barrels in the week prior. As of last week, gasoline inventories were about 3% below the five-year average for this time of year, according to the latest EIA data."

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10 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

That is not how reality works.  Coe moved on, I showed you that clearly. Just contact him already, praise him for ending all climate science with one paper!  See what he says, or do you still lack the gonads to contact him? 

You can keep your misguided beliefs all you want.  If you want to imagine you defeated me go right ahead.

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You are determinedly off-topic, we were discussing Coe et al. in the paper on greenhouse gases. How you got sidetracked into weather forecasts is beyond imagining, I guess it got too hot in the science kitchen  so you took off on another track.

The challenge I posed to you was to find someone who has criticized the Coe et al. paper on greenhouse gases. You have apparently drawn a blank on that. Okay, so you failed, man up to it and move on. Frankly, I expected you to fail so this is no surprise.

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10 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

You really think that reputable scientists have to respond to trash or else it becomes some sort of truth? 

Are you as gullible as Ron who thinks YouTube is a reference?  Or Tom who thinks his e-newspaper opinion articles matter?

 

So you failed. Just admit it and move on. I will give you my handkerchief to wipe your tears away.

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34 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

So you failed. Just admit it and move on. I will give you my handkerchief to wipe your tears away.

You do understand this guy will have a episode if you continue on. The Selva will be put into a position to effectively close this thread. 

But then again the Green Revolution is kaput...this thread is rather boring...so perhaps carrying on will end it all.  

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2 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

The Biden Transition is now back-pedaling in high gear, oil and gasoline production is at an all-time high, major oil companies have ditched their transition targets. 

The public has voted with their wallets, EVs are experiencing collapsing sales, fosil fuel vehicles are going in the opposite direction, ratcheting up.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Crude-Oil-Gasoline-Inventories-Continue-to-Drop.html

"Crude oil inventories in the United States fell this week by 1.519 million barrels for the week ending March 15, according to The American Petroleum Institute (API), after analysts had predicted a 77,000 barrel build. "

"Gasoline inventories also fell this week. Gasoline inventories fell 1.574 million barrels, after falling by 3.750 million barrels in the week prior. As of last week, gasoline inventories were about 3% below the five-year average for this time of year, according to the latest EIA data."

nice to see you are  a Biden supporter with his ramping up production to an all time high and at the same time he is ramping up the Green Agenda.....BOGO

Sleepy Joe is pro energy not bad for an old dude

 

 

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9 minutes ago, notsonice said:

nice to see you are  a Biden supporter with his ramping up production to an all time high and at the same time he is ramping up the Green Agenda.....BOGO

Sleepy Joe is pro energy not bad for an old dude

 

 

Ridin' with Biden — editorial cartoon Biden Harris victory

Doesn't he own a older Corvette?

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17 minutes ago, turbguy said:

Doesn't he own a older Corvette?

Used to...he seems to have forgotten where he put it last time out. Imagine that!

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2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

You do understand this guy will have a episode if you continue on. The Selva will be put into a position to effectively close this thread. 

But then again the Green Revolution is kaput...this thread is rather boring...so perhaps carrying on will end it all.  

The number of terrorists posting here has been dramatically reduced.

You and Ron are the most against democracy. Ecocharger may not understand science but he is not an active terrorist.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Used to...he seems to have forgotten where he put it last time out. Imagine that!

he seems to have forgotten where he put it last time out????

nice try.....but again another fail.....

Now ask yourself does your Orange Jesus have a drivers license??????? The Bumbling Orange idiot does not even own a car or even  know how to drive a car. His mommy has to drive him everywhere, Imagine that!

The Onion on X: "Despondent Trump Drives Golf Cart Into Water Hazard  https://t.co/G1SHPLzkUz https://t.co/M092xfcxtA" / X

 

Trump sit in the car and drinks wh ...

 

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4 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

The road to UK national bankruptcy is right on track.

Yes that new electricity infrastructure and free powergen will cripple us, 🤣

I bet you wish the USA were planning on upgrading your energy infrastructure network! Even you have been banging on about how crap it is and how much it will cost to upgrade, all money that you cant afford, should have done it years ago!

Never mind Footinmouth will have you all living underground in the tunnels he is going to build using monopoly money, enjoy!

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1 hour ago, Rob Plant said:

bet you wish the USA were planning on upgrading your energy infrastructure network! Even you have been banging on about how crap it is and how much it will cost to upgrade, all money that you cant afford, should have done it years ago!

The US is energy rich, from what I understand we have a 200yr supply of gas...that does not take into account the Green River formation. 

The EV demand...there is none, absolutely no need to power millions of autos with electricity...

Perhaps in time this will change, that time is far in the future. One can only wish for best towards the United Kingdom, limited resources are indeed perilous.

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The US is energy rich, from what I understand we have a 200yr supply of gas...that does not take into account the Green River formation. 

The EV demand...there is none, absolutely no need to power millions of autos with electricity...

Perhaps in time this will change, that time is far in the future. One can only wish for best towards the United Kingdom, limited resources are indeed perilous.

the Green River formation.???????? 1969 remember the grand experiment  in the giant Green River formations of Utah and Colorado????  Your oil and gas industry convinced the US to allow the use of a nuclear bomb to fracture the formations to release the gas...and the idiots forgot that the gases from the blast will contaminate the nat gas it was releasing

In the end, not a cubic foot of natural gas was ever sold from the Rulison well due to radiation

How much radiation gases are in the nat gas you use in your home.???? pay attention

 How much radiation gases (Radon) is in the nat gas you use in your home. Pennsylvania is not telling you what you should know surprise................

https://www.alleghenyfront.org/is-the-natural-gas-in-your-home-upping-your-radon-risk/

IS THE NATURAL GAS IN YOUR HOME UPPING YOUR RADON RISK?

JULIE GRANTMAY 26, 2017

This story won a 2017 Golden Quill Award from The Press Club of Western Pennsylvania. It was originally published August 12, 2016. 

Radon, the odorless gas that occurs naturally in soils and often finds its way into homeowners’ basements, is a familiar concern for people across Pennsylvania. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), radon is responsible for 21,000 cancer deaths in the U.S. every year, and Pennsylvania homes and buildings have some of the highest radon levels in the country. In fact, a full 40 percent of homes in the state have radon levels above what the EPA considers actionable.

 

rulison-50_lanl-protesters_im-9-pub69-181-539-1024x684.jpg

 

PROJECT RULISON

 
PDF
 
The experiment, called Project Rulison, would be the second natural gas stimulation experiment in the AEC's Plowshare Program to develop peaceful uses for ...
265 pages
 
by K Kreie · 2019  In 1969, the Project Rulison test was conducted in western Colorado using a nuclear device to stimulate natural gas production by fracturing ...
 
Sep 29, 2011  Specifically, the goal of Project Rulison was to find more cost-efficient means of liberating natural gas from underground regions. In fact, the ...
 
Its purpose is to study the economic and technical feasibility of using under- ground nuclear explosions to stimulate ~lroduction of natural gas from the low ...
14 pages
 
An underground nuclear detonation took place at this site in 1969, to investigate the possibility of using nuclear explosions to extract natural gas from ...
 
Sep 6, 2019  The scientists behind Rulison hoped a device that relied on nuclear fission instead of fusion would produce far less of the radioactive element ...

PROJECT RULISON

 
PDF
 
The experiment, called Project Rulison, would be the second natural gas stimulation experiment in the AEC's Plowshare Program to develop peaceful uses for ...
265 pages
 
by K Kreie · 2019  In 1969, the Project Rulison test was conducted in western Colorado using a nuclear device to stimulate natural gas production by fracturing ...
 
Sep 29, 2011  Specifically, the goal of Project Rulison was to find more cost-efficient means of liberating natural gas from underground regions. In fact, the ...
 
Its purpose is to study the economic and technical feasibility of using under- ground nuclear explosions to stimulate ~lroduction of natural gas from the low ...
14 pages
 
An underground nuclear detonation took place at this site in 1969, to investigate the possibility of using nuclear explosions to extract natural gas from ...
 
Sep 6, 2019  The scientists behind Rulison hoped a device that relied on nuclear fission instead of fusion would produce far less of the radioactive element ...

 

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20 minutes ago, notsonice said:

the Green River formation.???????? 1969 remember the grand experiment  in the giant Green River formations of Utah and Colorado????  Your oil and gas industry convinced the US to allow the use of a nuclear bomb to fracture the formations to release the gas...and the idiots forgot that the gases from the blast will contaminate the nat gas it was releasing

In the end, not a cubic foot of natural gas was ever sold from the Rulison well due to radiation

How much radiation gases are in the nat gas you use in your home.???? pay attention

 How much radiation gases (Radon) is in the nat gas you use in your home. Pennsylvania is not telling you what you should know surprise................

https://www.alleghenyfront.org/is-the-natural-gas-in-your-home-upping-your-radon-risk/

IS THE NATURAL GAS IN YOUR HOME UPPING YOUR RADON RISK?

JULIE GRANTMAY 26, 2017

This story won a 2017 Golden Quill Award from The Press Club of Western Pennsylvania. It was originally published August 12, 2016. 

Radon, the odorless gas that occurs naturally in soils and often finds its way into homeowners’ basements, is a familiar concern for people across Pennsylvania. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), radon is responsible for 21,000 cancer deaths in the U.S. every year, and Pennsylvania homes and buildings have some of the highest radon levels in the country. In fact, a full 40 percent of homes in the state have radon levels above what the EPA considers actionable.

 

rulison-50_lanl-protesters_im-9-pub69-181-539-1024x684.jpg

 

PROJECT RULISON

 
PDF
 
The experiment, called Project Rulison, would be the second natural gas stimulation experiment in the AEC's Plowshare Program to develop peaceful uses for ...
265 pages
 
by K Kreie · 2019  In 1969, the Project Rulison test was conducted in western Colorado using a nuclear device to stimulate natural gas production by fracturing ...
 
Sep 29, 2011  Specifically, the goal of Project Rulison was to find more cost-efficient means of liberating natural gas from underground regions. In fact, the ...
 
Its purpose is to study the economic and technical feasibility of using under- ground nuclear explosions to stimulate ~lroduction of natural gas from the low ...
14 pages
 
An underground nuclear detonation took place at this site in 1969, to investigate the possibility of using nuclear explosions to extract natural gas from ...
 
Sep 6, 2019  The scientists behind Rulison hoped a device that relied on nuclear fission instead of fusion would produce far less of the radioactive element ...

PROJECT RULISON

 
PDF
 
The experiment, called Project Rulison, would be the second natural gas stimulation experiment in the AEC's Plowshare Program to develop peaceful uses for ...
265 pages
 
by K Kreie · 2019  In 1969, the Project Rulison test was conducted in western Colorado using a nuclear device to stimulate natural gas production by fracturing ...
 
Sep 29, 2011  Specifically, the goal of Project Rulison was to find more cost-efficient means of liberating natural gas from underground regions. In fact, the ...
 
Its purpose is to study the economic and technical feasibility of using under- ground nuclear explosions to stimulate ~lroduction of natural gas from the low ...
14 pages
 
An underground nuclear detonation took place at this site in 1969, to investigate the possibility of using nuclear explosions to extract natural gas from ...
 
Sep 6, 2019  The scientists behind Rulison hoped a device that relied on nuclear fission instead of fusion would produce far less of the radioactive element ...

 

It would seem your cognitive skills are still somewhat rattled. Your speaking to a 40 acre plot...The formation covers three states. Do pay attention towards your thoughts...just saying.

 

The site, now under the care of the US Department of Energy (DOE), is protected by a 16-hectare (40 acre) institutional control boundary (Lot 11) that prohibits drilling or extraction of materials below 1830 meters (6000 feet) within the lot boundary. Drilling within 0.8 kilometer (0.5 mile) of the site requires a hearing before the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation

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19 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

It would seem your cognitive skills are still somewhat rattled. Your speaking to a 40 acre plot...The formation covers three states. Do pay attention towards your thoughts...just saying.

 

The site, now under the care of the US Department of Energy (DOE), is protected by a 16-hectare (40 acre) institutional control boundary (Lot 11) that prohibits drilling or extraction of materials below 1830 meters (6000 feet) within the lot boundary. Drilling within 0.8 kilometer (0.5 mile) of the site requires a hearing before the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation

Yeah it was 40 acres...they were trying to figure out how to unlock the gas......

Guess what the Green River Formations are not easily fracked....

Have you spent any time anywhere on the formations??? Drilling ??? Mining???? Fracking??????

because if you did you would know that water is scarce in the formations and conventional fracking is not a viable alternative for 90 percent of the formations....You would also know that the formations are not, for the most part, frackable....Rock types are not the right types.......

again how much experience do you have in anything to do with Fracking???? because if you had any you would know the Green river formations SUCK

Where it is viable they already have existing gas fields

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Junior ,,,,,You really have no idea what you are babbling about

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31 minutes ago, notsonice said:

Junior ,,,,,You really have no idea what you are babbling about

Ya Don't Say..ND would be my point of origin Williston area..I do not claim to be experienced...but I am somewhat familiar with the formation  and the drilling along with the politics. Frankly do you not find it interesting practically the entire state of ND has been leased out to oil and gas companies...Door to Door sales approach......quite odd at the time.

Now where we....Oh yes the US is pig rich in fossil fuels....1969 happened long ago. The Center of the US is awash in formations.

 

200 Year Supply of Oil in Green River Formation

By Mark J. Perry

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May 12, 2012

 

 

 

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/200-year-supply-of-oil-in-green-river-formation/

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The Dems will be viewed as failures concerning climate change. Even as catastrophic financial damage ravenously claws at our nations institutions. The red right? Just buy guns for the apocalypse and blame the greens. You have the Chinese and the Russians and you have the red wannabe lights. They are oblivious to climate and are still looking for power plays which since the beginning of humans hasent worked out to good. 

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25 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ya Don't Say..ND would be my point of origin Williston area..I do not claim to be experienced...but I am somewhat familiar with the formation  and the drilling along with the politics. Frankly do you not find it interesting practically the entire state of ND has been leased out to oil and gas companies...Door to Door sales approach......quite odd at the time.

Now where we....Oh yes the US is pig rich in fossil fuels....1969 happened long ago. The Center of the US is awash in formations.

 

200 Year Supply of Oil in Green River Formation

By Mark J. Perry

AEIdeas

May 12, 2012

 

 

 

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/200-year-supply-of-oil-in-green-river-formation/

  With electric cars that oil will last thousands of years. 

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38 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ya Don't Say..ND would be my point of origin Williston area..I do not claim to be experienced...but I am somewhat familiar with the formation  and the drilling along with the politics. Frankly do you not find it interesting practically the entire state of ND has been leased out to oil and gas companies...Door to Door sales approach......quite odd at the time.

Now where we....Oh yes the US is pig rich in fossil fuels....1969 happened long ago. The Center of the US is awash in formations.

 

200 Year Supply of Oil in Green River Formation

By Mark J. Perry

AEIdeas

May 12, 2012

 

 

 

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/200-year-supply-of-oil-in-green-river-formation/

 

 

now you are quoting and Econ Professors opinion on oil extraction????????????

Econ profs decide what reserves are????????????

last I checked being a econ prof is not the qualifications needed to perform 43-101 assessments or state if an area contains Oil or Nat gas economic reserves

 

you have no experience nor does your Prof Perry...got it

Just BS...stick to scrubbing toilets

 I understand we have a 200yr supply of gas...that does not take into account the Green River formation. ????

there really is no huge nat gas reserves in the Green River

 

yet you threw out the Green River when talking about the reserves like the babbling idiot you are

you posted.....

your cognitive skills are still somewhat rattled???

Punks, such as yourself, always resort to BS babble when you are called out on your BS.

 

What did you think about the Radon problem  in nat gas  out of the Pennsylvania fields.......????

 

got it you ignore it ....

and back to the Green River you stated........but I am somewhat familiar with the formation

 

please share with us how familiar you are with it...as you post like you are the King of the Green River especially whey you started babbling about the great reserves of oil ...now today you added in Nat gas

 my bet you have never ever picked up a rock from the formation let alone have any experience in oil or nat gas whatsoever anywhere on this planet

BSing as you do  on these forums is not experience............

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