ronwagn + 6,290 November 11, 2021 No U.S. coal plants by 2030? John Kerry makes bold prediction in Glasgow Does anyone here agree with Kerry? Please tell us how that would work? By Amy Joi O'Donoghue@Amyjoi16 Nov 10, 2021, 1:12pm MST https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/11/10/22774560/u-s-coal-john-kerry-power-plants-glasgow-joe-biden-fossil-fuels-utah-emery-county Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,398 November 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, ronwagn said: No U.S. coal plants by 2030? John Kerry makes bold prediction in Glasgow Does anyone here agree with Kerry? Please tell us how that would work? By Amy Joi O'Donoghue@Amyjoi16 Nov 10, 2021, 1:12pm MST https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/11/10/22774560/u-s-coal-john-kerry-power-plants-glasgow-joe-biden-fossil-fuels-utah-emery-county Certainly no new-builds. Some conversions to Nat Gas. Some coal will still remain, IMO. It's gonna be about 50+% "smaller" in the US. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, turbguy said: Certainly no new-builds. Some conversions to Nat Gas. Some coal will still remain, IMO. It's gonna be about 50+% "smaller" in the US. I agree. Illinois coal will be operating far beyond Gore's estimate. He is very misinformed on the realities of energy and climate change. Yet he has made millions while misinforming millions. All of his projections have failed miserably. He has no shame though. https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/midwest-first-illinois-bans-fossil-fuel-electricity-sources-2021-09-15/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,608 RP November 12, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, ronwagn said: Crude Oil Is Back, And It Isn’t Going Anywhere https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Crude-Oil-Is-Back-And-It-Isnt-Going-Anywhere.html Sorry @Jay McKinsey doesnt look likely that your green ambitions are happenning anytimer soon. Edited November 12, 2021 by Rob Plant 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,608 RP November 12, 2021 15 hours ago, ronwagn said: No U.S. coal plants by 2030? John Kerry makes bold prediction in Glasgow Does anyone here agree with Kerry? Please tell us how that would work? By Amy Joi O'Donoghue@Amyjoi16 Nov 10, 2021, 1:12pm MST https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/11/10/22774560/u-s-coal-john-kerry-power-plants-glasgow-joe-biden-fossil-fuels-utah-emery-county Does this not depend on who is in the White House?? If Trump was to run again and somehow win the election wouldnt he reverse all the decisions Biden has made? He was a big advocate of coal if I remember. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 13, 2021 (edited) Oil demand has recovered, and will recover more next year with airline demand....oil will still be king past 2050, as the government information agency has just admitted. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Crude-Oil-Is-Back-And-It-Isnt-Going-Anywhere.html "According to supermajor BP, global oil demand has already topped 100 million barrels per day (bpd) last seen before the pandemic. "We are at or about 2019 levels now," Russell Hardy, CEO at the world's biggest independent oil trader, Vitol, told the online Reuters Commodities Trading Conference this week, as carried by Bloomberg. And crude oil demand is set to continue rising into next year, Hardy added. Earlier this week, Saudi Aramco's CEO Amin Nasser said that the world would see its level of spare oil production capacity dwindle next year as jet fuel demand returns to pre- or near-pre-crisis levels. Little spare capacity amid continued underinvestment in oil and gas should be "a huge concern" for the market going forward, Nasser said, echoing the sentiment of many executives in the industry. Even Fatih Birol, the Executive Director of the International Energy Agency (IEA), highlighted this week in a video call with a senior Japanese official "the need for additional investment to meet future demand, explaining that the demand for oil and natural gas will not drastically decrease even through our path towards transition to renewable energy," per the statement from the Japanese foreign ministry. " Edited November 13, 2021 by Ecocharger 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,068 DM November 13, 2021 (edited) On 11/12/2021 at 2:11 AM, Rob Plant said: Does this not depend on who is in the White House?? If Trump was to run again and somehow win the election wouldnt he reverse all the decisions Biden has made? He was a big advocate of coal if I remember. Does this not depend on who is in the White House?? The White House has not banned new coal power plants. If Trump was to run again and somehow win the election wouldnt he reverse all the decisions Biden has made? Reverse what when it comes to new coal power plants??? New coal power plants are not banned in the US. No utility wants new ones. He was a big advocate of coal if I remember.???? Trump was a Big blowhard. No new power plants were proposed or went under construction while Trump was president and the last one that was under construction while Obama was president was completed (in Alaska) while Trump was in office. Trump did nothing for Coal , he only used coal miners for photo ops, same as him holding up a bible. Only slow people think Trump was working on building new coal power plants. Trump’s Final Numbers Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.5%. Coal Mining Jobs — As a candidate, Trump promised to “put our [coal] miners back to work,” but that didn’t happen. There were 8,500 fewer coal mining jobs in January than when Trump took office. That’s a decline of 16.7%. Even before the pandemic, coal mining jobs were on the decline under Trump. There were 50,900 coal mining jobs in January 2017, when Trump became president. But at the end of 2019, there were 47,700 such jobs — a decline of 3,200. The job losses continued in early 2020 and accelerated during the pandemic — dropping to a new low of 38,000 in April 2020. The job losses continued a trend that began decades ago. In January 1985, there were 170,500 coal mining jobs, but the industry hasn’t had more than 100,000 jobs since January 1995. In Obama’s eight years, the industry lost 35,500 jobs, a decline of 41%. U.S. coal production declined by 26.5% under Trump, from 728 million short tons in 2016 to 535 million short tons in 2020. Last year’s production was the lowest annual level since 1965. EIA expects U.S. coal production to increase 15% this year. Edited November 13, 2021 by notsonice 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 November 13, 2021 (edited) Solar PV & PV+Storage Costs Keep Dropping, New NREL Reports Show The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) has released its annual cost breakdown of installed solar photovoltaic (PV) and battery storage systems. U.S. Solar Photovoltaic System and Energy Storage Cost Benchmark: Q1 2021 details installed costs for PV systems as of the first quarter of 2021. Costs continue to fall for residential, commercial rooftop, and utility-scale PV systems — by 3%, 11%, and 12%, respectively, compared to last year. In a change from previous years’ reports, balance of systems costs have increased or remained flat across sectors this year. However, this increase in balance of systems cost was offset by a 19% reduction in module cost, causing overall costs to continue their decade-long decline. https://cleantechnica.com/2021/11/13/solar-pv-pvstorage-costs-keep-dropping-new-nrel-reports-show/ Edited November 13, 2021 by Jay McKinsey 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 November 13, 2021 The U.S. Solar Boom Is Only Just Beginning By Felicity Bradstock - Nov 13, 2021, 2:00 PM CST The U.S. solar industry has seen demand increase significantly in 2021, a fact that is being reflected in the revenues of solar stocks While there are cost issues currently due to supply disruptions, the increase in public and private funding will drive growth in U.S. solar On the back of COP26, it is likely that the industry is going to see an increase in support from the federal government https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Solar-Energy/The-US-Solar-Boom-Is-Only-Just-Beginning.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 440 November 14, 2021 17 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: The U.S. Solar Boom Is Only Just Beginning By Felicity Bradstock - Nov 13, 2021, 2:00 PM CST The U.S. solar industry has seen demand increase significantly in 2021, a fact that is being reflected in the revenues of solar stocks While there are cost issues currently due to supply disruptions, the increase in public and private funding will drive growth in U.S. solar On the back of COP26, it is likely that the industry is going to see an increase in support from the federal government https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Solar-Energy/The-US-Solar-Boom-Is-Only-Just-Beginning.html bought a fly wheel powered toy car. Dismantled it to find out how it works........ Curious. Broke a bar but managed to put the whole car back and still runs. what a success...... Here, we might find the answer to future energy that a) does not rely on unpredictable nor uncontrollable natural factors like sunlight, wind, water etc b) does not require battery c) does not require fuel but use mechanical energy to work........ A concept I was trying to put on something i wanted to create many years ago..... Did not take off, nevertheless...... Hope we do not rush blindly into seemingly obvious or easiest option informed, without proper planning, calculation and references on possible undesirable side effects....... may you have much fun gentlemen..... signing off....... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 15, 2021 (edited) The recent climate summit has revealed the truth about the energy supplies which will impact every economic decision for the next several decades, namely the essential nature of fossil fuels, which account for 84% of world energy supplies, not just now, but going back to 1980. Nothing has changed, or will change. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Bidens-Baffling-Oil-Policy-Faces-Backlash-From-All-Sides.html "It is an ironic twist that the first year of Biden's presidency is also the first year in which coal consumption in the country is set for a rise since 2014. And it will be a substantial rise: the Energy Information Administration has forecast the U.S. will consume 20 percent more coal than last year. Yet using coal to generate electricity more affordably is a pragmatic move even if it leads to a rise in U.S. emissions. The rise, the administration would probably argue, will be a temporary problem, and once the crunch is over, we'll go back to our low-carbon agenda. Yet this is where the bigger problem flashes a fin. The current energy crunch is not only a result of supply shortages. It is also a result of rising energy demand. U.S. producers appear to be unwilling to ramp up production of crude oil to levels that would lower prices at the pump. Gas producers are having a field day exporting a record amount of their product to Asia, where buyers are looking for a bargain—and U.S. gas is a bargain. If demand continues to grow at the current pace, switching from pragmatism to energy transition will continue to be a challenge. Over the short term, the challenge will be especially tough: inflation is driving up the prices of renewables, too, and threatening a lot of planned capacity addition projects with cancellation because of surging material and component costs." Edited November 15, 2021 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 15, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 6:40 PM, Jay McKinsey said: Solar PV & PV+Storage Costs Keep Dropping, New NREL Reports Show The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) has released its annual cost breakdown of installed solar photovoltaic (PV) and battery storage systems. U.S. Solar Photovoltaic System and Energy Storage Cost Benchmark: Q1 2021 details installed costs for PV systems as of the first quarter of 2021. Costs continue to fall for residential, commercial rooftop, and utility-scale PV systems — by 3%, 11%, and 12%, respectively, compared to last year. In a change from previous years’ reports, balance of systems costs have increased or remained flat across sectors this year. However, this increase in balance of systems cost was offset by a 19% reduction in module cost, causing overall costs to continue their decade-long decline. https://cleantechnica.com/2021/11/13/solar-pv-pvstorage-costs-keep-dropping-new-nrel-reports-show/ Already out of date, Jay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 15, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 11:35 AM, notsonice said: Does this not depend on who is in the White House?? The White House has not banned new coal power plants. If Trump was to run again and somehow win the election wouldnt he reverse all the decisions Biden has made? Reverse what when it comes to new coal power plants??? New coal power plants are not banned in the US. No utility wants new ones. He was a big advocate of coal if I remember.???? Trump was a Big blowhard. No new power plants were proposed or went under construction while Trump was president and the last one that was under construction while Obama was president was completed (in Alaska) while Trump was in office. Trump did nothing for Coal , he only used coal miners for photo ops, same as him holding up a bible. Only slow people think Trump was working on building new coal power plants. Trump’s Final Numbers Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.5%. Coal Mining Jobs — As a candidate, Trump promised to “put our [coal] miners back to work,” but that didn’t happen. There were 8,500 fewer coal mining jobs in January than when Trump took office. That’s a decline of 16.7%. Even before the pandemic, coal mining jobs were on the decline under Trump. There were 50,900 coal mining jobs in January 2017, when Trump became president. But at the end of 2019, there were 47,700 such jobs — a decline of 3,200. The job losses continued in early 2020 and accelerated during the pandemic — dropping to a new low of 38,000 in April 2020. The job losses continued a trend that began decades ago. In January 1985, there were 170,500 coal mining jobs, but the industry hasn’t had more than 100,000 jobs since January 1995. In Obama’s eight years, the industry lost 35,500 jobs, a decline of 41%. U.S. coal production declined by 26.5% under Trump, from 728 million short tons in 2016 to 535 million short tons in 2020. Last year’s production was the lowest annual level since 1965. EIA expects U.S. coal production to increase 15% this year. And under Biden & Co., coal consumption in the U.S. is set to increase 20% during his first year in office...is there a political irony in this somewhere? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 15, 2021 (edited) Britain is set to dramatically increase its production of oil to provide internal combustion engines with needed fuel...is there anything wrong with that? https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-800-Million-Barrel-Oilfield-Getting-Boris-Johnson-In-Trouble.html "Alister Jack, the UK government's Scottish secretary, stated that the Cambo oilfield should "100%" get the go-ahead, suggesting that it would be "foolish to think that we can just run away from oil and gas", referring to the U.K.’s unpreparedness to make a full clean energy transition at this point in time. The U.K. government is using this lack of preparedness for the transition to justify the development of Cambo while suggesting that the oilfield will be designed to produce low-carbon oil, similar to projects being established by Norway’s Equinor. In addition, the field will be ‘electrification-ready’, so that it can be run on onshore renewable power once it becomes available. In addition, Alok Sharma, the president-designate of COP26, responded to questions over the hypocrisy of COP26 and the development of Cambo by stating, “The IEA report also makes clear that, even in a net zero scenario, there is some element of oil and gas in that.”, in reference to IEA pressure to shift away from fossil fuels to renewable alternatives." Edited November 15, 2021 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 15, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 3:11 AM, Rob Plant said: Does this not depend on who is in the White House?? If Trump was to run again and somehow win the election wouldnt he reverse all the decisions Biden has made? He was a big advocate of coal if I remember. Trump was friendly toward Manchin and all fossil fuels but his all of the above fossil fuel policies led to abundant natural gas and oil supplies so he actually harmed coal greatly. Domestic coal is still declining while exports are increasing. Coal will not be burned in the United States beyond 2040 (my guess). If it is ever needed it can still be used, but maybe as a source for other fuels and misc. products. The waste will be handled more carefully than in the past. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 15, 2021 Actually, coal waste is on the edge of no longer being waste, but an essential input into rare earth products. https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/932642 "“Theoretically, an American company could use this technique to mine coal and coal byproducts for rare-earth metals and compete with Chinese mining,” said Xu. Furthermore, for U.S. national security purposes “it is probably reasonable to have alternate sources of rare-earth metals to avoid being at the mercy of a foreign supply.” Detoxifying coal ash for reuse alone should be worth the effort, Xu said. There’s no shortage of coal ash as a raw material. According to a paper published in 2016 in the journal Environmental Science & Technology, “Approximately 115 million metric tons of coal combustion products are generated annually, and this sum includes 45 million tons of fly ash,” the lightest kind of coal ash. These numbers remain of interest today, said Xu. “If we don’t detoxify and reuse the coal ash, then it will be abandoned in ponds and landfills and cost billions of dollars to clean up over the long term,” he said. To help make that outcome less likely, “We expect tests of our extraction techniques at larger volumes and on a variety of coal-based sources in the near future.” This technology also could open a new avenue for carbon-dioxide reutilization and sequestration, said Xu’s Sandia colleague Mark Rigali, who with Xu is exploring the use of citric acid and supercritical carbon dioxide to mine metals from oil and gas shales that are often rich in metals. “Using existing oil and gas fracking wells, the citric acid and supercritical carbon dioxide can be used cost-effectively to mine metals while disposing of carbon dioxide below ground,” Rigali said. Subsurface storage of the carbon dioxide should keep it from entering the atmosphere and contributing to climate change, Rigali said. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 15, 2021 9 hours ago, specinho said: bought a fly wheel powered toy car. Dismantled it to find out how it works........ Curious. Broke a bar but managed to put the whole car back and still runs. what a success...... Here, we might find the answer to future energy that a) does not rely on unpredictable nor uncontrollable natural factors like sunlight, wind, water etc b) does not require battery c) does not require fuel but use mechanical energy to work........ A concept I was trying to put on something i wanted to create many years ago..... Did not take off, nevertheless...... Hope we do not rush blindly into seemingly obvious or easiest option informed, without proper planning, calculation and references on possible undesirable side effects....... may you have much fun gentlemen..... signing off....... Jan Van Eck thought they were a great way to go. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 15, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, specinho said: bought a fly wheel powered toy car. Dismantled it to find out how it works........ Curious. Broke a bar but managed to put the whole car back and still runs. what a success...... Here, we might find the answer to future energy that a) does not rely on unpredictable nor uncontrollable natural factors like sunlight, wind, water etc b) does not require battery c) does not require fuel but use mechanical energy to work........ A concept I was trying to put on something i wanted to create many years ago..... Did not take off, nevertheless...... Hope we do not rush blindly into seemingly obvious or easiest option informed, without proper planning, calculation and references on possible undesirable side effects....... may you have much fun gentlemen..... signing off....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel Edited November 15, 2021 by ronwagn reference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,375 DL November 15, 2021 (edited) The political confrontation in Congress is now tilting towards free markets and away from wasteful subsidies which would distort the economic signals in investment decisions. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Democratic-Senator-Manchin-Opposes-Tax-Credit-For-Union-Made-EVs.html "“When I heard about this, what they were putting in the bill, I went right to the sponsor [Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich.] and I said, ‘This is wrong. This can’t happen. It’s not who we are as a country. It’s not how we built this country, and the product should speak for itself.” The proposal includes up to $7,500 in tax credits for EVs, plus an additional $4,500 tax credit if the vehicle is assembled at a union facility. “We shouldn’t use everyone’s tax dollars to pick winners and losers. If you’re a capitalist economy that we are in society then you let the product speak for itself, and hopefully, we’ll get that, that’ll be corrected,” Senator Manchin told Automotive News in an interview." Edited November 15, 2021 by Ecocharger 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 15, 2021 Another blatant attempt to buy votes with tax money that the poor and middle class must pay while the wealthy enjoy their rebated new luxury vehicles. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 15, 2021 https://lngprime.com/americas/carnival-cruise-lines-third-lng-powered-vessel-coming-to-galveston-in-2023/33685/ Real pollution saver. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 15, 2021 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/11/joe-biden-sides-with-chinese-solar-manufacturers-evading-u-s-tariffs/ Solar enriching China and taking away American jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,068 DM November 15, 2021 21 hours ago, Ecocharger said: And under Biden & Co., coal consumption in the U.S. is set to increase 20% during his first year in office...is there a political irony in this somewhere? set to increase 20 percent?????? where do you get this from?? US production of coal in 2020 was 535 million short tons. Production YTD (Oct 16, 2021) is 461 million short tons and in 2020 Year to similar date (Oct 16) was 425 MMst up 8 percent. Do not know where you come up with 20 percent. Production for all of 2021 looks like it will come in at 570 to 590 MMst Not a 20 percent increase (closer to a 8 to 10 percent increase). Plus 2020 was Trumps recession year with negative GDP of -3.5 percent , this year GDP will be up 6 to 7 percent inline with coal production. In other words a dead cat bounce . Not much Irony , more like an economy rebounding and bringing the US back to normal. Political irony? keep dreaming ....Coal production is on a long term decline, No one in the US is building new Coal fired power plants, just retirements into the foreseeable future. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,398 November 15, 2021 20 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Actually, coal waste is on the edge of no longer being waste, but an essential input into rare earth products. https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/932642 "“Theoretically, an American company could use this technique to mine coal and coal byproducts for rare-earth metals and compete with Chinese mining,” said Xu. Furthermore, for U.S. national security purposes “it is probably reasonable to have alternate sources of rare-earth metals to avoid being at the mercy of a foreign supply.” Detoxifying coal ash for reuse alone should be worth the effort, Xu said. There’s no shortage of coal ash as a raw material. According to a paper published in 2016 in the journal Environmental Science & Technology, “Approximately 115 million metric tons of coal combustion products are generated annually, and this sum includes 45 million tons of fly ash,” the lightest kind of coal ash. These numbers remain of interest today, said Xu. “If we don’t detoxify and reuse the coal ash, then it will be abandoned in ponds and landfills and cost billions of dollars to clean up over the long term,” he said. To help make that outcome less likely, “We expect tests of our extraction techniques at larger volumes and on a variety of coal-based sources in the near future.” This technology also could open a new avenue for carbon-dioxide reutilization and sequestration, said Xu’s Sandia colleague Mark Rigali, who with Xu is exploring the use of citric acid and supercritical carbon dioxide to mine metals from oil and gas shales that are often rich in metals. “Using existing oil and gas fracking wells, the citric acid and supercritical carbon dioxide can be used cost-effectively to mine metals while disposing of carbon dioxide below ground,” Rigali said. Subsurface storage of the carbon dioxide should keep it from entering the atmosphere and contributing to climate change, Rigali said. Please explain what's left over after mining all the coal ash dumps for REE ' s. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 November 16, 2021 https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-chance-of-net-zero-by-2050-oil-exec-chris-wright-weighs-in-on-cop26_4096092.html?utm_source=author_recommendation&utm_medium=a_bottom Zero chance of net zero by 2050. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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