Boat + 1,315 RG March 7, 2022 Since the early eighties fossil fuel independence independence became a political rallying cry. The Middle East had cut oil to the world and the US was dependent on that oil. So today the US is fossil fuel independent yet the price of gas, diesel and nat gas is exploding. WTF? If we produce what we consume shouldn't we be rewarded for being self sustained? Get pissed America, your being taken like the Russian population was taken. Like the Australian citizens were taken as nat gas jumped, brownouts happened, and there massive amounts of nat gas being exported. Just how dumb can you be. The nativity of consumers is the laughingstock of history. Why in my lifetime do I have to be surrounded by so many square yellow bus candidates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,380 DL March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: The data I posted is originally from the US Gov't: Sales of new light-duty plug-in electric vehicles, including all-electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), nearly doubled from 308,000 in 2020 to 608,000 in 2021. EV sales accounted for 73% of all plug-in electric vehicle sales in 2021. EV sales grew by 85% from 2020 to 2021, while sales of PHEVs more than doubled, with an increase of 138% over the previous year. The rapid growth in plug-in electric vehicle sales from 2020 to 2021 is remarkable in the context of overall light-duty vehicle sales, which increased by only 3% during the same period. Image https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/articles/new-plug-electric-vehicle-sales-united-states-nearly-doubled-2020-2021 The article you posted says: "Alternative-fuel powertrains increased their market penetration as well, with hybrids and plug-in hybrids representing 6.5% of all new vehicles sold—an increase of 2.9 percentage points from 2020. Battery electric vehicles’ market share rose to 2.9% of all new-vehicle sales, up from 1.6% in 2020." According to your article BEV accounted for 1.3 of those 3 percentage points and though it does not break out PHEV it was about .7 which adds up to 2/3 of the light duty vehicle growth. From your article: "New light-vehicle sales totaled 14.93 million units in 2021, up 3.1% from 2020’s 14.47 million." 14.93M - 14.47M = 460K growth in new vehicle units. The government says 300K are BEV + PHEV. 300/460= 65% or just shy of 2/3 of new car growth in 2021. Percentages are meaningless indicators when you start from a low base number. You should use real numbers, actual sales figures and forget the percentage nonsense. Oh, sorry, I forgot that you skipped econometrics, I shouldn't expect too much from you Jay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,380 DL March 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: What matters is percentage of new vehicles sold because new vehicles are additions to the fleet. Used car sales just shuffle them around. There is a reason that new car sales are tracked by industry economists in great detail every month but they rarely ever mention the used car market. You never took an economics course did you? No, you have to include the entire vehicle market, because they all compete for the vehicle dollar spent. Basic economics, old boy, which I guess you skipped. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyboardWarrior + 527 March 7, 2022 22 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Coal is up worldwide, read the news, buddy. I'm amazed that more people aren't talking about this. The price is absurd. So much for "the death of coal". Wonder how many people are salty about it. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyboardWarrior + 527 March 7, 2022 @Jay McKinsey You need to look at the entire market to know what the actual demand for EV's is. If the demand was that great, people would opt for them instead of a used ICE. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 7, 2022 Ireland hits new wind power record Wind provided 53% of country’s electricity in February 2022, its highest-ever share 7 March 2022 08:24 Onshore Wind [Image: Shannon Images] Wind provided 53% of Ireland’s electricity in February 2022, its highest-ever share. Wind energy was also the number one source of electricity throughout the month and on 5 February set a new All-Ireland record for the amount of wind energy on the system at 4.6GW, according to a Wind Energy Ireland report. The report also highlights the importance of wind energy in cutting the price of wholesale electricity, with results showing that during the windiest periods of the month, wholesale prices were almost €100 cheaper per MWh than during less windy days, at €134.25 per MWh, versus €229.62. Noel Cunniffe, CEO of Wind Energy Ireland, welcomed the results of the study. He said: “These results show the ever-increasing importance of wind energy and renewables for the Irish energysector. It is vital that we bring through new wind farms as quickly as possible in the coming months and years to ensure we can consistently achieve figures like this if we are to meet the targets set in the Climate Action Plan. “The fact that wholesale prices fall when wind energy production is high shows that windenergy will play an increasingly important role in the coming months, mitigating the worst effects of the predicted price increases for consumers due to spiralling fossil fuel import prices.” The results of this report are based on EirGrid’s SCADA data compiled by MullanGrid and on market data provided by ElectroRoute. This is the first in what will be a continuing series of monthly reports from Wind Energy Ireland. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 7, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Percentages are meaningless indicators when you start from a low base number. You should use real numbers, actual sales figures and forget the percentage nonsense. Oh, sorry, I forgot that you skipped econometrics, I shouldn't expect too much from you Jay. If you could read you would note that the post contains all relevant real numbers and actual sales figures. Edited March 7, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 7, 2022 GM to build $393 million EV battery materials plant in Quebec Canada will play an 'important role' in the company’s effort to develop a battery supply chain in North America, GM says March 07, 2022 10:00 AM updated 12 minutes ago THE CANADIAN PRESS The Quebec plant will process battery material used in GM's Ultium cells. General Motors plans to build a $393-million cathode active material (CAM) plant in Bécancour, Que., adding Canada to its growing North American electric vehicle supply chain that will reduce reliance on battery materials imported from Asia. The automaker and its joint venture partner on the project, South Korean battery material firm Posco Chemical, announced the facility that will process material for GM’s Ultium batteries March 7. “GM and our supplier partners are creating a new, more secure and more sustainable ecosystem for EVs, built on a foundation of North American resources, technology and manufacturing expertise,” said Doug Parks, GM’s executive vice-president of global product development, purchasing and supply chain. Parks said Canada will play an “important role” in the company’s effort to develop a battery supply chain in North America, with the project receiving strong backing from the local, provincial and federal governments. Producing CAM is one of the key steps in readying nickel, lithium and other key materials for use in EV batteries. The ingredients that make up CAM represent approximately 40 per cent of the cost of a battery cell, according to GM. Posco Chemical, a subsidiary of steelmaker Posco, will lead the project as majority owner in the joint venture. Planning has been underway for months. GM announced it was working to finalize the joint venture with the chemical firm in December. The CAM plant will return GM to Quebec after a 20-year absence. Its Sainte-Thérèse Assembly, which built the Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird muscle cars in the Montreal suburbs closed in 2002. GM Canada President Scott Bell said it was exciting to see Canada and Quebec take on a “key role” in the company’s emerging battery ecosystem. “With this new processing facility in Bécancour, GM will help lead the EV battery supply chain while also launching Canada’s first full EV manufacturing plant in Ingersoll, Ont., later this year.” Governments in Quebec and Ontario, as well as the federal government in Ottawa, have been actively courting battery processing and battery mineral mining investments as the shift to EVs accelerates. GM’s announcement follows a similar plan from chemical giant BASF for a CAM plant disclosed on Friday. The German company is at an earlier stage of development, having purchased land, also in Bécancour, for a processing plant expected to open in 2025. The automaker said it chose Quebec because of its low-cost, hydro-powered electricity grid, predictable environmental standards and logistical links, such as a nearby deep-water port. Access to Canadian battery mineral capacity also played a role, said David Paterson, GM Canada’s vice-president for corporate and environmental affairs. Paterson would not share the plant’s planned capacity or square-footage, but said all of its production will be used to supply GM’s four Ultium battery cell plants, which will all be located in the United States. The cells will power the automaker’s next-generation EVs, such as its Chevrolet Silverado EV, GMC Hummer EV and Cadillac Lyric. Construction on the new plant in Bécancour — located on the south side of the St. Lawrence River, directly across from Trois-Rivières — will begin immediately. GM said the plant is expected to employ 200 on a footprint that will also allow for future expansion. The CAM plant is scheduled to begin production in the first quarter of 2025. This report will be updated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuarterCenturyVet + 312 JL March 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: The data I posted is originally from the US Gov't: Sales of new light-duty plug-in electric vehicles, including all-electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), nearly doubled from 308,000 in 2020 to 608,000 in 2021. EV sales accounted for 73% of all plug-in electric vehicle sales in 2021. EV sales grew by 85% from 2020 to 2021, while sales of PHEVs more than doubled, with an increase of 138% over the previous year. The rapid growth in plug-in electric vehicle sales from 2020 to 2021 is remarkable in the context of overall light-duty vehicle sales, which increased by only 3% during the same period. Image https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/articles/new-plug-electric-vehicle-sales-united-states-nearly-doubled-2020-2021 The article you posted says: "Alternative-fuel powertrains increased their market penetration as well, with hybrids and plug-in hybrids representing 6.5% of all new vehicles sold—an increase of 2.9 percentage points from 2020. Battery electric vehicles’ market share rose to 2.9% of all new-vehicle sales, up from 1.6% in 2020." According to your article BEV accounted for 1.3 of those 3 percentage points and though it does not break out PHEV it was about .7 which adds up to 2/3 of the light duty vehicle growth. From your article: "New light-vehicle sales totaled 14.93 million units in 2021, up 3.1% from 2020’s 14.47 million." 14.93M - 14.47M = 460K growth in new vehicle units. The government says 300K are BEV + PHEV. 300/460= 65% or just shy of 2/3 of new car growth in 2021. Hmm. 608K is a bit more than 460K. How can EVs account for 2/3 of 460K when they allegedly increased by 608K. I know. Because your numbers are inflated. Simple. They lie. You lie. Everyone lies about the climate alarm narrative because you're stupid and biased. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 7, 2022 March 7, 2022 Solar power and batteries account for 60% of planned new U.S. electric generation capacity Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Preliminary Monthly Electric Generator Inventory, December 2021 Power plant developers and operators expect to add 85 gigawatts (GW) of new generating capacity to the U.S. power grid from 2022 to 2023, 60% (51 GW) of which will be made up of solar power and battery storage projects, according to data reported in our Preliminary Monthly Electric Generator Inventory. In many cases, projects combine these technologies. Battery storage capacity, as well as renewable capacity, significantly increased in the United States during 2021, partly because of tax credits and partly because of falling technology costs, especially for batteries. Depending on the configuration and charging sources, both solar power and battery storage units may be eligible for the solar investment tax credit (ITC), which is scheduled to phase down by 2024. More than half of the 51 GW of planned solar and battery storage capacity within the next two years will be located in three states. The largest share, 12 GW (23%), will be in Texas. The next largest share, 11 GW (21%), will be in California, and 4 GW (7%) will be in New York. Solar capacity. Utility-scale solar accounts for 41 GW (48%) of the planned capacity in the United States during the next two years. More utility-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) capacity was added (24 GW) to the U.S. power grid than natural gas (12 GW) between 2020 and 2021, a trend that will likely continue over the next two years as the demand for solar power continues to grow. In 2022, power plant developers and operators expect to add 22 GW of solar capacity to the grid, significantly more than the 13 GW added in 2021. Large additions of utility-scale solar capacity are likely to continue because of falling solar technology costs and the 2020 extension of the solar ITC, which extended the credit to 26% in 2021 and 2022, 22% in 2023, and 10% in 2024 and after. Battery storage. In the next two years, power plant developers and operators expect to add 10 GW of battery storage capacity; more than 60% of this capacity will be paired with solar facilities. In 2021, 3.1 GW of battery storage capacity was added in the United States, a 200% increase. Declining costs for battery storage applications, along with favorable economics when deployed with renewable energy (predominantly wind and solar PV), have driven the expansion of battery storage. The remaining 34 GW of planned capacity additions over the next two years will largely come from natural gas (16 GW) and wind (15 GW). The amount of planned wind capacity dropped by nearly half from the previous two years, which had 29 GW of new wind capacity come online. Principal contributor: Suparna Ray 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said: @Jay McKinsey You need to look at the entire market to know what the actual demand for EV's is. If the demand was that great, people would opt for them instead of a used ICE. Demand for used EVs exceeds supply. The number 1,2,4 and 7 in demand used cars in the US are PEV: Fastest-Selling Used Vehicles iSeeCars also analyzed the top 20 fastest-selling used vehicles. The average used car takes 46.2 days to sell, while the top 20 fastest-selling vehicles average 28.2 days and sell 1.5 to 1.9 times faster than the average used vehicle. The list of fastest-selling used vehicles is led by alternative-fuel vehicles, which includes nine hybrids and three fully-electric vehicles. Top 20 Fastest-Selling Used Vehicles in January 2022- iSeeCars Study Rank Vehicle Average Days to Sell Average Price 1 Tesla Model Y 24.7 $67,121 2 Toyota Prius Prime 25.8 $28,844 3 Honda Insight 25.9 $27,191 4 Tesla Model 3 26.5 $50,996 5 Toyota Prius 26.7 $26,340 6 Toyota Corolla Hybrid 27.6 $27,472 7 Ford Mustang Mach-E 27.7 $58,744 8 Toyota GR Supra 27.8 $57,545 9 Mitsubishi Outlander 28.4 $23,525 10 Mazda MAZDA3 28.6 $25,192 11 Chevrolet Trailblazer 29.3 $31,125 12 Audi A3 29.3 $29,305 13 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid 29.3 $44,585 14 Honda Accord Hybrid 29.5 $31,549 15 Toyota Venza 29.8 $41,537 16 Honda Clarity Plug-in Hybrid 29.8 $27,137 17 Ford Bronco 30.1 $73,573 18 Ford Bronco Sport 30.4 $40,103 19 Cadillac XTS 30.6 $30,004 20 Toyota Highlander Hybrid 30.9 $46,626 Average for All Used Vehicles 46.2 $35,925 The fastest-selling used vehicle is the Tesla Model Y electric crossover, which takes on average 24.7 days to sell. “The highly-anticipated Tesla Model Y was the best-selling electric vehicle in America in 2021 after making its debut in 2020, and the lightly-used versions that are just entering the used car marketplace are in high demand,” said Brauer. A second Tesla, the Model 3 also makes the list. “A new version of the Model 3’s Standard Range Plus variant isn’t expected until June 2022, which further elevates the demand for used versions, some of which are being sold at higher prices than new versions ,” added Brauer. Nine hybrid vehicles make the list including the Toyota Prius Prime plug-in hybrid, the Honda Insight, the Toyota Prius, the Toyota Corolla Hybrid, the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid, the Honda Accord Hybrid, the Toyota Venza, the Honda Clarity Plug-In Hybrid, and the Toyota Highlander Hybrid. “Many of these hybrids are new models that are just coming to the used car marketplace and are in short supply, including the Toyota Venza that debuted in 2021, the Toyota Corolla that debuted in 2020, and the Honda Insight that debuted in 2019,” said Brauer. “Just as in the new car marketplace, hybrid and plug-in vehicles are hot sellers as fuel prices have increased by 40 percent in January compared to last year.” https://www.iseecars.com/fastest-selling-cars-study Edited March 7, 2022 by Jay McKinsey 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Demand for used EVs exceeds supply. The number 1,2,4 and 7 in demand used cars in the US are PEV: Fastest-Selling Used Vehicles iSeeCars also analyzed the top 20 fastest-selling used vehicles. The average used car takes 46.2 days to sell, while the top 20 fastest-selling vehicles average 28.2 days and sell 1.5 to 1.9 times faster than the average used vehicle. The list of fastest-selling used vehicles is led by alternative-fuel vehicles, which includes nine hybrids and three fully-electric vehicles. Top 20 Fastest-Selling Used Vehicles in January 2022- iSeeCars Study Rank Vehicle Average Days to Sell Average Price 1 Tesla Model Y 24.7 $67,121 2 Toyota Prius Prime 25.8 $28,844 3 Honda Insight 25.9 $27,191 4 Tesla Model 3 26.5 $50,996 5 Toyota Prius 26.7 $26,340 6 Toyota Corolla Hybrid 27.6 $27,472 7 Ford Mustang Mach-E 27.7 $58,744 8 Toyota GR Supra 27.8 $57,545 9 Mitsubishi Outlander 28.4 $23,525 10 Mazda MAZDA3 28.6 $25,192 11 Chevrolet Trailblazer 29.3 $31,125 12 Audi A3 29.3 $29,305 13 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid 29.3 $44,585 14 Honda Accord Hybrid 29.5 $31,549 15 Toyota Venza 29.8 $41,537 16 Honda Clarity Plug-in Hybrid 29.8 $27,137 17 Ford Bronco 30.1 $73,573 18 Ford Bronco Sport 30.4 $40,103 19 Cadillac XTS 30.6 $30,004 20 Toyota Highlander Hybrid 30.9 $46,626 Average for All Used Vehicles 46.2 $35,925 The fastest-selling used vehicle is the Tesla Model Y electric crossover, which takes on average 24.7 days to sell. “The highly-anticipated Tesla Model Y was the best-selling electric vehicle in America in 2021 after making its debut in 2020, and the lightly-used versions that are just entering the used car marketplace are in high demand,” said Brauer. A second Tesla, the Model 3 also makes the list. “A new version of the Model 3’s Standard Range Plus variant isn’t expected until June 2022, which further elevates the demand for used versions, some of which are being sold at higher prices than new versions ,” added Brauer. Nine hybrid vehicles make the list including the Toyota Prius Prime plug-in hybrid, the Honda Insight, the Toyota Prius, the Toyota Corolla Hybrid, the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid, the Honda Accord Hybrid, the Toyota Venza, the Honda Clarity Plug-In Hybrid, and the Toyota Highlander Hybrid. “Many of these hybrids are new models that are just coming to the used car marketplace and are in short supply, including the Toyota Venza that debuted in 2021, the Toyota Corolla that debuted in 2020, and the Honda Insight that debuted in 2019,” said Brauer. “Just as in the new car marketplace, hybrid and plug-in vehicles are hot sellers as fuel prices have increased by 40 percent in January compared to last year.” https://www.iseecars.com/fastest-selling-cars-study https://www.motortrend.com/features/top-20-most-popular-used-cars-in-the-u-s/ Top 20 Most Popular Used Cars in the U.S. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: https://www.motortrend.com/features/top-20-most-popular-used-cars-in-the-u-s/ Top 20 Most Popular Used Cars in the U.S. Wow, your senility is getting worse by the day. You just posted a list from Oct 22, 2014. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: https://www.motortrend.com/features/top-20-most-popular-used-cars-in-the-u-s/ Top 20 Most Popular Used Cars in the U.S. I wonder if those same cars top the list if they were electric and around $20,000. 20,000 being the key. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: Wow, your senility is getting worse by the day. You just posted a list from Oct 22, 2014. Lol, you gotta keep an eye on those boys. My fav ice car was a Nissan 300ZX. It was called the Barbie car. I drove one for about 5 years. Great car, few problems and it was cool to drive. Todays sports electric are much more expensive but holy shyt they fly. My Nissan topped out around 140 mph. To be honest I was pretty scared at that speed. You felt like you were floating and close to death. Lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuarterCenturyVet + 312 JL March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Boat said: Lol, you gotta keep an eye on those boys. My fav ice car was a Nissan 300ZX. It was called the Barbie car. I drove one for about 5 years. Great car, few problems and it was cool to drive. Todays sports electric are much more expensive but holy shyt they fly. My Nissan topped out around 140 mph. To be honest I was pretty scared at that speed. You felt like you were floating and close to death. Lol I bought a 2010 M3 in 2018. I've topped it out at 255kph (that's 160mph). I can empathize with the feeling of floating at that speed, although I can't imagine driving that fast in something built in the late 80s or early 90s because that's likely when you drove your 300ZX. Crazy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 8, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: Wow, your senility is getting worse by the day. You just posted a list from Oct 22, 2014. Ahh on to current trends, good catch what's changed? Hybrids! Not EV's https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/used/midsize-cars-2+page1 Edited March 8, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 March 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, Boat said: Lol, you gotta keep an eye on those boys. My fav ice car was a Nissan 300ZX. It was called the Barbie car. I drove one for about 5 years. Great car, few problems and it was cool to drive. Todays sports electric are much more expensive but holy shyt they fly. My Nissan topped out around 140 mph. To be honest I was pretty scared at that speed. You felt like you were floating and close to death. Lol You were. One front blowout away. I tried that with my NIssan Sentra fastback on the way to Vegas. I think I slowed down after hitting 100 though. That was about 1985. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Ahh on to current trends, good catch what's changed? Hybrids! Not EV's https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/used/midsize-cars-2+page1 A list that says nothing about demand. Consumers want to buy used EVs but the cars don't exist because production of EVs is just now taking off. Now, there’s no shortage of demand for EVs, new or used. For Platt, the problem is supply. His sales haven’t changed much, but now most buyers are American, and he thinks he could sell many more vehicles—if he could get them. “Demand for EVs is astronomical, what people are willing to pay for them” is remarkable, he says. “I’ve never seen anything like this, and I’ve done this a long time.” Used EVs are going mainstream. Half a million may be sold in the US by the end of the year, according to estimates by the startup Recurrent, more than double sales of three years ago. Just a few years ago, used EVs were a hard sell. Now there are more options, more familiarity, fewer fears about batteries and range, and more public chargers, with even more on the way. Platt describes the psychological shift simply: “It doesn't seem any different than a normal car for most people.” It also doesn’t hurt that gas prices are way up. https://www.wired.com/story/used-evs-hotter-demand-ever/ EVS Are The Fastest-Selling Used Cars In America Used EVs from Tesla And Chevy are the first to go on the lot. https://jalopnik.com/evs-are-the-fastest-selling-used-cars-in-america-1847481991 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 8, 2022 (edited) In the UK which is three years ahead of US in new EV sales: Second-hand electric vehicles are being sold at record rates thanks to surging demand The average used electric car is sold within 26 days, compared to 34 days for a used petrol car Demand for second-hand electric cars has hit record levels, with battery cars gaining value on the used car market and selling faster than ever before. Transactions of used electric cars has jumped 120 per cent last year, far outstripping the 10 per cent growth in transactions of used petrol and diesel cars. More than 40,000 used EVs changed hands in 2021, according to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), a new record.https://inews.co.uk/news/second-hand-electric-vehicles-record-demand-1448015 Edited March 8, 2022 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,315 RG March 8, 2022 It’s unfortunate Tesla is having trouble getting the two new factories off the ground. It seems their cars are sold months in advance. Oh well, in a couple of years the delay won’t matter much. We can say that China won the factory building speed contest. Embarrassing/or just congrats to their efficiency and cooperation. Any electric made is still a bit cleaner air. We’ll see how SamSung does with that battery plant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: A list that says nothing about demand. Consumers want to buy used EVs but the cars don't exist because production of EVs is just now taking off. Now, there’s no shortage of demand for EVs, new or used. For Platt, the problem is supply. His sales haven’t changed much, but now most buyers are American, and he thinks he could sell many more vehicles—if he could get them. “Demand for EVs is astronomical, what people are willing to pay for them” is remarkable, he says. “I’ve never seen anything like this, and I’ve done this a long time.” Used EVs are going mainstream. Half a million may be sold in the US by the end of the year, according to estimates by the startup Recurrent, more than double sales of three years ago. Just a few years ago, used EVs were a hard sell. Now there are more options, more familiarity, fewer fears about batteries and range, and more public chargers, with even more on the way. Platt describes the psychological shift simply: “It doesn't seem any different than a normal car for most people.” It also doesn’t hurt that gas prices are way up. https://www.wired.com/story/used-evs-hotter-demand-ever/ EVS Are The Fastest-Selling Used Cars In America Used EVs from Tesla And Chevy are the first to go on the lot. https://jalopnik.com/evs-are-the-fastest-selling-used-cars-in-america-1847481991 Quoting a person who owns a 30 car pot lot in Portland Oregon? My we are digging deeply these days. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Quoting a person who owns a 30 car pot lot in Portland Oregon? My we are digging deeply these days. Don't have to dig at all when #1,2,4 and 7 are PEV: The average used car takes 46.2 days to sell, while the top 20 fastest-selling vehicles average 28.2 days and sell 1.5 to 1.9 times faster than the average used vehicle. The list of fastest-selling used vehicles is led by alternative-fuel vehicles, which includes nine hybrids and three fully-electric vehicles. Top 20 Fastest-Selling Used Vehicles in January 2022- iSeeCars Study Rank Vehicle Average Days to Sell Average Price 1 Tesla Model Y 24.7 $67,121 2 Toyota Prius Prime 25.8 $28,844 3 Honda Insight 25.9 $27,191 4 Tesla Model 3 26.5 $50,996 5 Toyota Prius 26.7 $26,340 6 Toyota Corolla Hybrid 27.6 $27,472 7 Ford Mustang Mach-E 27.7 $58,744 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Wombat One said: But I get a "server error" each time I try to post the fella's face. Let's just say he is "one-eyed" in both the metaphorical and literal sense. It is becoming very apparent online news organizations are becoming quite savy towards this new digital world. Without going into to much depth ive found pictures headlines etc etc can be digitally blocked from sharing. I suspect this feature is digitally encoded into the picture itself. Malware is actually encoded in pictures. But as in all things tech there are no safe havens,chaos rules the day. Simply using a cell phone and taking a screen shot of say a headline/picture or even a badly illuminating article can be done and then uploaded to any site. Screen shots do not capture code. LMAO....umm not yet. This world is coming undone Mr Wombat, the great reset is about to literally blow up in all of our faces. As we now speak to the Ukrainian debacle with Putin leveraging Nukes, we have Russia negotiating for the US with Iran in regards to sanctions. Perhaps thee most callous abuse of power ive ever witnessed. Now imagine Israel's take on this....and they have noticed. They are now in talks with Russia...Imagine Iran with a Nuke, I'm quite sure Israeli is spelling it out quite clearly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 March 8, 2022 China NEV sales at 22% new market share in February, up 181% YoY China's retail sales of new energy passenger vehicles were 272,000 units in February, up 180.5 percent year-on-year and down 22.6 percent from January, the CPCA said. That includes 206,000 BEVs and 66,000 PHEVs. Retail sales of all passenger vehicles in February were 1.246 million units, up 4.2 percent year-on-year and down 40 percent compared to January. The penetration of NEVs in China was 21.8 percent of retail sales in February, up 13 percentage points from 8.1 percent in February 2021. https://cnevpost.com/2022/03/08/chinas-wholesale-sales-of-passenger-nevs-at-317000-units-in-feb-up-189-year-on-year/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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