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3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Wrong as always.

Contiguous U.S. ranked fourth warmest during 2021

For 2021, the average contiguous U.S. temperature was 54.5°F, 2.5°F above the 20th-century average and ranked as the fourth-warmest year in the 127-year period of record. The six warmest years on record have all occurred since 2012. The December contiguous U.S. temperature was 39.3°F, 6.7°F above average and exceeded the previous record set in December 2015. https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/national-climate-202112

 

2021 Continued Earth’s Warming Trend

 

Earth’s global average surface temperature in 2021 tied 2018 as the sixth-warmest year on record, according to independent analyses from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Global temperatures in 2021 were 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.5 degrees Fahrenheit) above the average for NASA’s baseline period, according to scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS). NASA uses the period from 1951-1980 as a baseline to compare how global temperatures change over time.

Collectively, the past eight years have been the warmest since modern recordkeeping began in 1880. This annual temperature data is part of the global temperature record that tells scientists how much and where our planet has been warming. Earth in 2021 was about 1.1°C (1.9°F) warmer than it was in the late 19th century, when the Industrial Revolution was underway and weather stations were popping up around the world.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/149321/2021-continued-earths-warming-trend

The current May snow storms should be a blast of fresh air for your views, Jay. Temperatures bounce around, certainly since 1880. But that is too short a time-span to draw any conclusions on.

Long-term models show that CO2 is antiphasal with earth temperature levels, which by itself throws out your ideas about Green policy. 

Edited April 30, 2022 by Ecocharger

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The current age is actually the Golden Age of Fossil Fuels, judging from the financial returns of oil companies. 

And it only gets better going forward.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Exxon-And-Chevron-Post-Blockbuster-Earnings-As-Oil-Prices-Soar.html

"Exxon doubled earnings to $5.5 billion for Q1.

Exxon is now tripling its share repurchase program up to a total of $30 billion through 2023.

Chevron reported adjusted earnings of $6.5 billion for Q1"

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On 4/27/2022 at 4:47 PM, Ecocharger said:

Coal is going up....and you will have to stop driving your ICE fossil fuel car to meet the fictional targets for CO2 which no one will ever meet.

I don’t drive ICE vehicles and I don’t care about CO2 targets. I do care about resource depletion, overpopulation, air pollution, water pollution and ground contamination. Stuff like creating messes and being allowed to walk away and dump it on the future. Even in 400 BC a few woke recognized the dangers of pollution. The battle with the rednecks was on. I’m happy to continue this battle with the flat earth society. While cleaner air and water is not a priority for many thank goodness capitalism and the market will right many wrongs because there is big money in not getting people sick. At some point commonsense will catch up a sustainable budget. 

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26 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

That is not science, there is no study or model referred to. Where is the CO2 data?

I gave you a real science study showing that CO2 is antiphasal and negatively correlated to earth temperature. That is real science, so show us something which is relevant to CO2 or it does not make the grade.

CO2 study is unneeded. The glaring negative correlation between decrease in solar irradiance and temperature increase destroys your theory that solar activity is causing the temperature increase. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

The current age is actually the Golden Age of Fossil Fuels, judging from the financial returns of oil companies. 

And it only gets better going forward.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Exxon-And-Chevron-Post-Blockbuster-Earnings-As-Oil-Prices-Soar.html

"Exxon doubled earnings to $5.5 billion for Q1.

Exxon is now tripling its share repurchase program up to a total of $30 billion through 2023.

Chevron reported adjusted earnings of $6.5 billion for Q1"

Thank Biden for those profits. Fossile Fuels have their best years when Dems are in charge. Remember your claims of how Biden was bad for oil? Republicans are like Russian tank commanders. Lots of rumble and noise but very short on execution. 

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15 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

CO2 study is unneeded. The glaring negative correlation between decrease in solar irradiance and temperature increase destroys your theory that solar activity is causing the temperature increase. 

 

Jay, the solar scientists do not use that solar variable you are referring to above, which I guess you just accept without question. They use something called the Cosmic Ray Flux or CRF,

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2020EA001223

Check out the correlations in this science research, by some heavy duty credentialed researchers.

" Panel D shows the anticorrelated variation of the galactic cosmic-ray flux (CRF) as measured at the University of Oulu's Sodankyla Geophysical Observatory. The anticorrelation of CRF and solar activity (Forbush, 1954; McIntosh et al., 2013) is a result of changes in the Sun's global magnetic field strength (and structural configuration)—basically, a strong solar magnetic field blocks cosmic rays from entering the solar system, and hence the Earth's atmosphere with corresponding increases when said magnetic field is weak. Note that solar cycle 24 has seen a weaker global solar magnetic field than its predecessor, and correspondingly higher cosmic-ray fluxes. Observations of radiative proxies of solar activity from other wavelengths follow, in Panel E, the 1–8 Å integrated coronal X-ray irradiance measured by the GOES family of spacecraft (Chamberlin et al., 2009) and the University of Bremen's composite index of the Sun's chromospheric variability measured through the ultraviolet emission of singly ionized Magnesium (Panel F; Snow et al., 2014). The GOES X-ray flux was the measure in in which terminator events were first detected (Saba et al., 2005; Strong & Saba, 2009). Throughout all panels, the pairs of vertical dotted lines mark step-function changes are present in each of the measured quantities (radiative increases and CRF decreases) that persist for the next several months.."

Edited April 30, 2022 by Ecocharger

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20 minutes ago, Boat said:

I don’t drive ICE vehicles and I don’t care about CO2 targets. I do care about resource depletion, overpopulation, air pollution, water pollution and ground contamination. Stuff like creating messes and being allowed to walk away and dump it on the future. Even in 400 BC a few woke recognized the dangers of pollution. The battle with the rednecks was on. I’m happy to continue this battle with the flat earth society. While cleaner air and water is not a priority for many thank goodness capitalism and the market will right many wrongs because there is big money in not getting people sick. At some point commonsense will catch up a sustainable budget. 

The pollution created by EVs is enormous, let's see you carry a placard protesting the EV pollution.

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11 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

The pollution created by EVs is enormous, let's see you carry a placard protesting the EV pollution.

I’m going with overpopulation. Do your part and step off.🤣

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53 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

Jay, the solar scientists do not use that solar variable you are referring to above, which I guess you just accept without question. They use something called the Cosmic Ray Flux or CRF,

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2020EA001223

Check out the correlations in this science research, by some heavy duty credentialed researchers.

" Panel D shows the anticorrelated variation of the galactic cosmic-ray flux (CRF) as measured at the University of Oulu's Sodankyla Geophysical Observatory. The anticorrelation of CRF and solar activity (Forbush, 1954; McIntosh et al., 2013) is a result of changes in the Sun's global magnetic field strength (and structural configuration)—basically, a strong solar magnetic field blocks cosmic rays from entering the solar system, and hence the Earth's atmosphere with corresponding increases when said magnetic field is weak. Note that solar cycle 24 has seen a weaker global solar magnetic field than its predecessor, and correspondingly higher cosmic-ray fluxes. Observations of radiative proxies of solar activity from other wavelengths follow, in Panel E, the 1–8 Å integrated coronal X-ray irradiance measured by the GOES family of spacecraft (Chamberlin et al., 2009) and the University of Bremen's composite index of the Sun's chromospheric variability measured through the ultraviolet emission of singly ionized Magnesium (Panel F; Snow et al., 2014). The GOES X-ray flux was the measure in in which terminator events were first detected (Saba et al., 2005; Strong & Saba, 2009). Throughout all panels, the pairs of vertical dotted lines mark step-function changes are present in each of the measured quantities (radiative increases and CRF decreases) that persist for the next several months.."

The data I posted is from NASA and CalTech. It clearly states they are using SATIRE-T2+PMOD which real solar and climate scientists widely use.

The amount of solar energy that Earth receives has followed the Sun’s natural 11-year cycle of small ups and downs with no net increase since the 1950s. Over the same period, global temperature has risen markedly. It is therefore extremely unlikely that the Sun has caused the observed global temperature warming trend over the past half-century.

Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech 

https://climate.nasa.gov/ask-nasa-climate/2910/what-is-the-suns-role-in-climate-change/

The solar radiation arriving at Earth (once known as the “solar constant”, now usually referred to as Total Solar Irradiance (TSI)), is the most fundamental of climate parameters as it indicates the totality of the energy driving the climate system.  All climate models need to prescribe a value for it, either explicitly or implicitly, but its measurement with the precision and stability needed for climate studies has proved challenging. -From Expert Guidance by Drs. Joanna Haigh and William Ball; please see the "Expert Guidance" tab for more.

TSI datasets generally fall under two categories, historical reconstructions and satellite-based radiometric measurements:

Historical reconstructions:  The two key datasets for long, historical records of TSI are (1) SATIRE and (2) NRLTSI. The NRLTSI data are being produced by NOAA as a Climate Data Record, available in a useful netCDF format with data for 1882-present. 

https://climatedataguide.ucar.edu/climate-data/total-solar-irradiance-tsi-datasets-overview

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4 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Wrong as always.

Contiguous U.S. ranked fourth warmest during 2021

For 2021, the average contiguous U.S. temperature was 54.5°F, 2.5°F above the 20th-century average and ranked as the fourth-warmest year in the 127-year period of record. The six warmest years on record have all occurred since 2012. The December contiguous U.S. temperature was 39.3°F, 6.7°F above average and exceeded the previous record set in December 2015. https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/national-climate-202112

 

2021 Continued Earth’s Warming Trend

 

Earth’s global average surface temperature in 2021 tied 2018 as the sixth-warmest year on record, according to independent analyses from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Global temperatures in 2021 were 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.5 degrees Fahrenheit) above the average for NASA’s baseline period, according to scientists at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS). NASA uses the period from 1951-1980 as a baseline to compare how global temperatures change over time.

Collectively, the past eight years have been the warmest since modern recordkeeping began in 1880. This annual temperature data is part of the global temperature record that tells scientists how much and where our planet has been warming. Earth in 2021 was about 1.1°C (1.9°F) warmer than it was in the late 19th century, when the Industrial Revolution was underway and weather stations were popping up around the world.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/149321/2021-continued-earths-warming-trend

2021 Winter Weather "Broke Records" Across the "Globe"

Jay focus, or are you just having a Daft night...or two or three? Hint Globe vs US...Just a smidge of Indiscretion?

Contiguous "U.S." ranked fourth warmest during 2021; 20 billion-dollar disasters identified

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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10 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

2021 Winter Weather "Broke Records" Across the "Globe"

Jay focus, or are you just having a Daft night...or two or three? 

Contiguous "U.S." ranked fourth warmest during 2021; 20 billion-dollar disasters identified

 

 

 

Ok Daffy, once again, 2021 was one of the hottest years on record. A few cold days in winter does not make up for a lot of hot days in summer. 

Contiguous U.S. ranked fourth warmest during 2021 For 2021, the average contiguous U.S. temperature was 54.5°F, 2.5°F above the 20th-century average and ranked as the fourth-warmest year in the 127-year period of record. The six warmest years on record have all occurred since 2012. 

2021 Continued Earth’s Warming Trend

 

Earth’s global average surface temperature in 2021 tied 2018 as the sixth-warmest year on record, according to independent analyses from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Edited April 30, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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Oops looks like EU news is finally coming home..

The Largest U.S. Grid Operator Puts 1,200 Mostly Solar Projects on Hold for Two Years

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/29042022/pjm-interconnection-solar-projects/

 

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8 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Oops looks like EU news is finally coming home..

The Largest U.S. Grid Operator Puts 1,200 Mostly Solar Projects on Hold for Two Years

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/29042022/pjm-interconnection-solar-projects/

 

Because they are overwhelmed with the huge number of  proposals. The same thing is happening in California. Solar will continue to grow at its current rapid rate.

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2 hours ago, Boat said:

I don’t drive ICE vehicles and I don’t care about CO2 targets. I do care about resource depletion, overpopulation, air pollution, water pollution and ground contamination. Stuff like creating messes and being allowed to walk away and dump it on the future. Even in 400 BC a few woke recognized the dangers of pollution. The battle with the rednecks was on. I’m happy to continue this battle with the flat earth society. While cleaner air and water is not a priority for many thank goodness capitalism and the market will right many wrongs because there is big money in not getting people sick. At some point commonsense will catch up a sustainable budget. 

We all want clean air, water, and soil. The question is how do we get Asians and the rest of the world to go along. We cannot afford to build their infrastructure. We can't keep writing bad checks forever either. We need to follow an economically viable course. To me that includes oil and natural gas not just renewables. We can't even get ourselves totally off coal yet. I am all for affordable renewals and affordable energy in the form of electricity or liquid or gaseous. I say keep it as clean as possible and don't waste it flaring if it can be avoided. No change for me. I don't think nuclear is economically viable looking at the long term costs and possibly renewables could be developed a lot faster. 

To me, it is vital that China not become the hegemon and that we do not help it by giving it too much of the West's business. We should also seek to dissuade the world from being bought by them. People all over the world are making millions by selling out to them. 

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57 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Ok Daffy, once again, 2021 was one of the hottest years on record. A few cold days in winter does not make up for a lot of hot days in summer. 

Contiguous U.S. ranked fourth warmest during 2021 For 2021, the average contiguous U.S. temperature was 54.5°F, 2.5°F above the 20th-century average and ranked as the fourth-warmest year in the 127-year period of record. The six warmest years on record have all occurred since 2012. 

2021 Continued Earth’s Warming Trend

 

Earth’s global average surface temperature in 2021 tied 2018 as the sixth-warmest year on record, according to independent analyses from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Just prove it by how much the ocean has risen. Watch the harbors in the U.S.A. Watch the old fort at St. Augustine Florida. It is still there!

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1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Ok Daffy, once again, 2021 was one of the hottest years on record. A few cold days in winter does not make up for a lot of hot days in summer. 

Contiguous U.S. ranked fourth warmest during 2021 For 2021, the average contiguous U.S. temperature was 54.5°F, 2.5°F above the 20th-century average and ranked as the fourth-warmest year in the 127-year period of record. The six warmest years on record have all occurred since 2012. 

2021 Continued Earth’s Warming Trend

 

Earth’s global average surface temperature in 2021 tied 2018 as the sixth-warmest year on record, according to independent analyses from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

 

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4 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

Just prove it by how much the ocean has risen. Watch the harbors in the U.S.A. Watch the old fort at St. Augustine Florida. It is still there!

We have weather stations that meticulously track temperature. The Arctic melting doesn't raise ocean levels because the ice is floating. The same goes for the Antarctic ice shelves that are shrinking. It is when Greenland and Antarctica proper begin to melt that ocean level will rise. That is what we are trying to prevent. By the time you see the ocean rise it will be too late.

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7 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

We have weather stations that meticulously track temperature. The Arctic melting doesn't raise ocean levels because the ice is floating. The same goes for the Antarctic ice shelves that are shrinking. It is when Greenland and Antarctica proper begin to melt that ocean level will rise. That is what we are trying to prevent. By the time you see the ocean rise it will be too late.

Ahh  physics drama...so when ice melts...does it fall/slide to the  equator of the earth?

LMAO Einstein care to elaborate? NOW THIS IS GOING TO BE BIGLEY!

Edited April 30, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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When ice melts it turns to water. Water flows. In the case at hand it will flow to the global ocean and raise its level. Yes, you are BIGLEY stupid.

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11 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

When ice melts it turns to water. Water flows. In the case at hand it will flow to the global ocean and raise its level. Yes, you are BIGLEY stupid.

Odd ice flows on water, rather easily at that. It's a mass/density thingy...Actually That would be hydro dynamic 101. 

Now Jay just what holds up all that dam water above the equator in the first place? After all it flows as you say, up hill or down hill...LMAO 

Edited April 30, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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10 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Odd ice flows on water, rather easily at that. It's a mass/density thingy...Actually That would be hydro dynamic 101. 

Now Jay just what holds up all that dam water above the equator in the first place? After all it flows as you say, up hill or down hill...LMAO 

You are an idiot.

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8 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You are an idiot.

Actually Jay your a idiot, just one fundamental question and you lose it. Water sliding down hill...that is you depth?

Jay I must ask...are you a Chinese operative? 

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The US generated a record 18% of its electricity from wind and solar in March

 

the death of coal, brought to you by solar and wind power

The US generated a record 18% of its electricity from wind and solar in March

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- Apr. 28th 2022 11:00 pm PT

 

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- Apr. 28th 2022 11:00 pm PT

 

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Last month, the US generated 18% of its electricity from wind and solar (59 TWh) for the first time. That beat the previous record set in March 2021 (53 TWh), according to new data from global energy think tank Ember.

 

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In 2015, the US generated just 5.7% of its electricity from wind and solar (229.8 TWh). By 2021, it had more than doubled that, reaching 13% of its electricity from wind and solar (543.5 TWh).

The trend reflects the global acceleration toward wind and solar energy, which have doubled since 2015 to deliver a record 10% of global electricity in 2021, according to Ember’s “Global Electricity Review.”

Wind and solar were the fastest-growing forms of electricity worldwide for the 17th year in a row in 2021 and are projected to be the backbone of the future electricity system. 

Many European countries already produced more than 25% of their electricity from wind and solar in 2021, including Germany, Spain, and the UK, which is helping to rapidly reduce their reliance on imported fossil fuels from Russia and elsewhere.

The International Energy Agency states that in order to reach net zero, wind and solar need to reach 20% of global electricity by 2025 and 70% by 2050.

Ember’s COO, Phil MacDonald, said: 

Wind and solar are breaking records around the world. The process that will reshape the existing energy system has begun. Wind and solar provide a solution to the ‘trilemma’ of achieving a sustainable, affordable, and secure energy supply. This decade they need to be deployed at lightning speed.

 

 

Edited April 30, 2022 by notsonice

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3 hours ago, Boat said:

I’m going with overpopulation. Do your part and step off.🤣

We do not need verbal pollution.