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57 minutes ago, Boat said:

Tesla is 70% of EV in the states. Tesla is 3% of US cars. Over 50% of new Tesla uses phosphate instead of lithium. Just saw that on a video. No clue how accurate the info is. But obviously Tesla is moving away from lithium at least for now. To your point, how yes will lithium prices affect the pickup and the semi. Those products may need lithium, cobalt and nickel for more density, power etc. I don’t think the science is settled yet. 
Solar and wind are doing much better than Mongolian coal. Got some charts yet?

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On 6/12/2022 at 5:39 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

I see you have ill informed thought processes. 

Top down No administration makes law.

Elected officials make law.

People elect local officials to make and influence laws.

Courts merely decide if these laws are constitutionally correct if challenged.

The Supreme court once again only rules on the lower courts decisions if challenged. Their are many courts prior to the supreme court.

So yes I am quite comfortable with this processes, after all these procedures have propelled the US to a very high state of existence in a very very short time.

That is why the Demoncrats want to allow Supreme Court Justices to be harassed by picketers at their homes IF they are conservatives. Liberals will be declared innocent in D.C. courts and laws will not be enforced against THEIR unlawful actions. This was true throughout President Trump's term in office, it was before then, is now, and will be as long as Demoncrats have any power anywhere. 

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On 6/9/2022 at 9:46 PM, Polyphia said:

Wait, no 

"How is that fossil fuel car of yours doing? Still putt-putting along with huge emissions?"

or

"Do you enjoy your current fossil fuel vehicle?"

or

"And thanks for driving your fossil fuel vehicle and adding to the hot demand for oil and gasoline."

or

"I love it when you tank up your fossil fuel vehicle....thank you."

or

"Keep filling up your gas tank and driving your fossil fuel car"?

Who are you and tell us about your vehicle's? 

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13 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said:

That is why the Demoncrats want to allow Supreme Court Justices to be harassed by picketers at their homes IF they are conservatives. Liberals will be declared innocent in D.C. courts and laws will not be enforced against THEIR unlawful actions. This was true throughout President Trump's term in office, it was before then, is now, and will be as long as Demoncrats have any power anywhere. 

Unlawful actions and trumps term go hand in hand.  Are you even watching the testimony?

Are you suggesting a one-party system? The dems win because that is what the American people want, you are out-of-date fossil human. Traitor to your nation.

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2 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Are you even watching the testimony?

It is called a melodrama, produced and choreographed by a independent producer. Effective only time will tell. I think not however,it may have set the stage for McCarthyism on steroids.

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As news organizations scrambled in 2017 to satisfy the bottomless appetite for information about the new president, James Goldston, the president of ABC News, declared the dawn of “a new golden age” in American journalism, with Donald J. Trump as its improbable catalyst.

Mr. Goldston, a native of Britain who had become a U.S. citizen only a few months before, said the world was waiting with anticipation to see what would happen next. “One of the things that makes this story so interesting,” he said in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, “is nobody knows where this goes.”

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GM's stock closes below IPO price for first time since October 2020

DETROIT – Shares of General Motors on Monday closed below the post-bankrupt automaker's $33 initial public offering price for the first time since October 2020.

Amid a broad market sell-off that also pushed Ford Motor and Chrysler-parent Stellantis to new 52-week lows, GM's stock closed at $32.28 a share, down by 7.8%. Shares of GM have declined about 45% this year, as fears of a recession grow and investors question whether the automaker's most profitable days are behind it.

Chevy slashes Bolt EV, EUV prices to under $30K

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General Motors Co. is slashing prices on its Chevrolet Bolt EV and EUV for model year 2023 to spur more electric vehicle adoption.

The 2023 Bolt EV will start at $26,595, down from the 2022 starting price of $32,495. The 2023 Bolt EUV will start at $28,195, down from last year's starting price of $34,495. Both prices include dealer freight charges.

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5 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

It is called a melodrama, produced and choreographed by a independent producer.

Yet you like trump... do you even remember "The Apprentice?" 

"You're fired" from a fake job is melodrama at it's finest. Your cult gobbles up garbage like that (Pillow Guy).

Keep watching the show called real life where trump was the one fired and now goes to jail.

 

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5 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The 2023 Bolt EV will start at $26,595, down from the 2022 starting price of $32,495. The 2023 Bolt EUV will start at $28,195, down from last year's starting price of $34,495. Both prices include dealer freight charges.

 

Cheaper EV's.... that will push customers away, or not.

Next you will say high prices for coal and oil will kill solar. Backwards logic

 

 

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10 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

Who are you and tell us about your vehicle's? 

I'm Batman.

And if you followed the thread completely, you would know that I drive a hybrid.

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4 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Keep watching the show called real life where trump was the one fired and now goes to jail.

The public backlash is breaking badly, you may well see charges of sedition within months. The US states govt paying Hollywood to produce a singular party hit piece is resonating. 

Jan. 6 committee abruptly postpones Wednesday hearing

The hearing was expected to focus on Trump's plan to replace former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-committee-abruptly-postpones-wednesday-hearing-rcna33433

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4 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Cheaper EV's.... that will push customers away, or not.

Next you will say high prices for coal and oil will kill solar. Backwards logic

 

 

It will be the death of GM. They were taking a 4000 hit prior to this cut. It is over.

Amid a broad market sell-off that also pushed Ford Motor and Chrysler-parent Stellantis to new 52-week lows, GM's stock closed at $32.28 a share, down by 7.8%. Shares of GM have declined about 45% this year, as fears of a recession grow and investors question whether the automaker's most profitable days are behind it.

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On 6/12/2022 at 9:41 PM, nsdp said:

Lithium has nothing to do with solar.   It is used in batteries. XCEL is going to convert the 1000 mw Harrington  from coal to hydrogen No batteries dumbie. .  Ecocharger you don't know enough to tell the difference between a plant yard man and basement operator.

Solar production would need massive batteries to make the system work, not feasible now with lithium soaring in price.

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2 hours ago, Polyphia said:

I'm Batman.

And if you followed the thread completely, you would know that I drive a hybrid.

That means you fill your gas tank with fossil fuels....and violate your own personal beliefs.

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14 hours ago, Boat said:

Tesla is 70% of EV in the states. Tesla is 3% of US cars. Over 50% of new Tesla uses phosphate instead of lithium. Just saw that on a video. No clue how accurate the info is. But obviously Tesla is moving away from lithium at least for now. To your point, how yes will lithium prices affect the pickup and the semi. Those products may need lithium, cobalt and nickel for more density, power etc. I don’t think the science is settled yet. 
Solar and wind are doing much better than Mongolian coal. Got some charts yet?

EVs are less than 1% of vehicle market value.

Nothing to get excited about.

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32 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

That means you fill your gas tank with fossil fuels....and violate your own personal beliefs.

How much do you invest in FF (e.g., stocks)?

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1 hour ago, Polyphia said:

How much do you invest in FF (e.g., stocks)?

How much do you invest in fossil fuel vehicles?

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4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The public backlash is breaking badly, you may well see charges of sedition within months. The US states govt paying Hollywood to produce a singular party hit piece is resonating. 

Jan. 6 committee abruptly postpones Wednesday hearing

The hearing was expected to focus on Trump's plan to replace former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-committee-abruptly-postpones-wednesday-hearing-rcna33433

Keep the faith!  It amuses me... don't get soft on me in the face of all your fails.

"May see charges [] within months"  is pretty weak language.  Will we see charges (yes/no), and in how many months?  How many months exactly before you eat more crow for being wrong yet again?

Will there be a Kraken? :)

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Climate-Change Censorship: Phase Two

Now Gina McCarthy tells Big Tech to stifle debate global-warming policy responses.

 
 
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Progressives first demanded that social media platforms silence critics of climate alarmism. Now White House national climate adviser Gina McCarthy wants them to censor content on the costs of a force-fed green energy transition.

A few years ago, Facebook enlisted third-party “fact checkers” to review news stories about climate. That didn’t satisfy Democratic Senators who howled about a “loophole” for opinion pieces. Facebook then began appending fact-checks to op-eds, including by our contributors Bjorn Lomborg and Steven Koonin, that criticized apocalyptic climate models and studies. The goal was to restrict readership.

Now progressives are moving to censorship phase two, which is shutting down debate over climate “solutions.” “Now it’s not so much denying the problem,” Ms. McCarthy said in an Axios interview last Thursday. “What the industry is now doing is seeding doubt about the costs associated with [green energy] and whether they work or not.”

Ms. McCarthy cited the week-long power outage in Texas in February 2021. “The first thing we read in the paper was” that the blackouts occurred “because of those wind turbines,” she said. “That became the mantra.” In fact, most of the media immediately blamed climate change and fossil fuels.


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We were among the few to point out that wind energy plunged as temperatures dropped and turbines froze. Gas-fired plants couldn’t make up for the wind shortfall despite running all-out, and then some went down too. Ms. McCarthy doesn’t want to admit the inconvenient truth that renewable energy sources are making the grid increasingly unreliable.

Comparing fossil-fuel companies to Big Tobacco, she complained that “dark money” is being used to “fool” the public about “the benefits of clean energy.” “We need the tech companies to really jump in,” she said, because highlighting the costs of green energy is “equally dangerous to denial because we have to move fast.” Got that, Mark Zuckerberg ?

Merely pointing out technical limitations of lithium-ion batteries could be “disinformation.” Asked whether climate disinformation posed a threat to public health, Ms. McCarthy replied “absolutely” while adding hilariously that “President Biden doesn’t focus on, and neither do I on, bashing the fossil-fuel companies.” The Axios interviewer smiled and nodded along.

Some conservative scholars argue that Big Tech companies could be sued as “state actors” for violating users’ First Amendment speech rights when they censor content at the behest of government officials. Ms. McCarthy is helping make their case.

 
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14 hours ago, Polyphia said:

I'm Batman.

And if you followed the thread completely, you would know that I drive a hybrid.

What kind of hybrid Batman? It must be a mild hybrid since it would be an easy target while it was charging up. 

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The White House is in serious need of some economic advisors who understand how markets work, or don't work.

The idea that oil-related companies should invest heavily in long-term refining capacity while the White House launches a campaign to eliminate the oil and gasoline industries is a classic example of political double-think (yes, good old Orwellian talk). 

The oil and refining companies would have to be insane to waste long-term money on an industry being targeted by the government for extinction. Who is advising the Prez these days?

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Biden-Threatens-Oil-Firms-Increase-Gasoline-Production-Lower-Prices.html

"Rallying oil prices, recovering demand post-COVID, and constrained refining capacity are the key reasons for record-high gasoline prices in the U.S. and many other countries.

Crude oil prices are the single biggest factor determining U.S. gasoline prices, accounting for over 53 percent of the average retail price per gallon. Moreover, in the U.S., some 1 million bpd of refinery capacity has been shut permanently since the start of the pandemic, as refiners have opted to either close money-losing facilities or convert some of them into biofuel production sites. In the United States, operable refinery capacity was at just over 18 million bpd in 2021, the lowest since 2015, per EIA data. "

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The madness grows, now the Congress is being recruited by someone (Biden & Co.?) to levy heavy taxes on the oil companies as punishment for not producing more oil and gasoline.

Basic undergrad economics would be sufficient to inform the Congress that raising taxes on a certain commodity results in less of that commodity being produced, not more. 

That's an undergrad fail.

If the Demos really believe that oil companies are exercising undue market power to gouge consumers, they should complain to the Commerce people and launch an anti-combine investigation. They will not do this, because they do not really believe that oil markets are uncompetitive or that profits are the result of company market power to force up prices.

We need to replace brain-dead legislators.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Top-US-Senator-Proposes-Higher-Taxes-For-Oil-Companies.html

"Ron Wyden, chair of the Senate Finance Committee, proposed a surtax of 21 percent for oil companies with a profit margin of 10 percent or more. This would bring their total tax burden to 42 percent, Bloomberg reported, citing two unnamed sources familiar with the proposal, which has yet to be released to the public."

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The hits just keep coming, Farley may well go down as the Man Who Crippled Ford.

Ford CFO says inflation has erased Mustang Mach-E profits, but isn't hurting demand for new vehicles

  • But rising commodity costs have wiped out the profit it initially expected to make on its electric Mustang Mach-E.
  • Ford CFO John Lawler noted one
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  • emerging sign that consumers may be reaching their inflationary limits: Ford Credit, the company's financing arm, has seen an uptick in "delinquencies," or late payments.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/ford-cfo-says-inflation-has-erased-mustang-mach-e-profits-but-isnt-hurting-demand.html

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On 6/14/2022 at 11:19 AM, Ecocharger said:

Solar production would need massive batteries to make the system work, not feasible now with lithium soaring in price.

It will end up costing everyone more for their electric power. Add together Chinese panels helping China, transmission lines, then batteries. 

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my my wind and solar to the rescue and helping keep costs down.......
 
........wind and solar, which generated 27 gigawatts of electricity during Sunday's peak demand -- close to 40% of the total needed....
 
 
"Texas is, by rhetoric, anti-renewables. But frankly, renewables are bailing us out,".......
 
"Because the price of wind and sunlight hasn't doubled in the past year like other resources, they are acting as a hedge against high fuel prices," said Joshua Rhodes, an energy researcher at UT Austin.............

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Wind and solar power are 'bailing out' Texas amid record heat and energy demand

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Updated 10:55 AM ET, Tue June 14, 2022

Wind turbines generate power on a farm near Throckmorton, Texas.
 
Wind turbines generate power on a farm near Throckmorton, Texas.

(CNN)Texans are cranking on the air conditioning this week amid an unusually early heat wave, setting new records for electricity demand in the state, which surpassed 75 gigawatts on Sunday and smashed the 2019 record. Texas grid operator ERCOT projects it could approach that peak again on Tuesday.

But unlike previous extreme weather events in Texas which led to deadly blackouts, the grid is holding up remarkably well this week. Several experts told CNN that it's owed in large part to strong performances from wind and solar, which generated 27 gigawatts of electricity during Sunday's peak demand -- close to 40% of the total needed.
 
 
"Texas is, by rhetoric, anti-renewables. But frankly, renewables are bailing us out," said Michael Webber, an energy expert and professor at the University of Texas at Austin. "They're rocking. That really spares us a lot of heartache and a lot of money."
Despite the Texas Republican rhetoric that wind and solar are unreliable, Texas has a massive and growing fleet of renewables. Zero-carbon electricity sources (wind, solar, and nuclear) powered about 38% of the state's power in 2021, rivaling natural gas at 42%.
This is a relatively recent phenomenon for the state.
"Wind and solar would not have been available in years in the past, so the growing capacity helps to alleviate reliance on natural gas and coal," said Jonathan DeVilbiss, operations research analyst at the US Energy Information Administration.
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Not only have renewables helped keep the power on during a scorching and early heatwave, they have also helped keep costs low. Prices for natural gas and coal are high amid a worldwide energy crunch, but renewables -- powered by the wind and sun -- have no fuel cost.
"Because the price of wind and sunlight hasn't doubled in the past year like other resources, they are acting as a hedge against high fuel prices," said Joshua Rhodes, an energy researcher at UT Austin.

Peak demand during peak heat

Texas and other states have been sweltering in triple-digit temperatures and dangerous heat indices. Texas state climatologist John Nielsen-Gammon told CNN that San Antonio has been a particular hot spot; it recently hit 102.5 degrees Fahrenheit, setting a new pre-July record.
Texas is used to heat, but this year they're "getting August weather in May and June," Webber told CNN.
 
 
Experts said the Texas grid was built to withstand extreme heat moreso than the extreme cold brought by the deadly 2021 winter storm. But with the state now experiencing August-like temperatures in early June many questioned whether the Texas grid could withstand the longer, hotter summers fueled by climate change.
"As opposed to a winter storm, we were built for three months of 90-plus [degrees]," said Caitlin Smith, head of regulatory policy and communications at Texas-based battery storage company Jupiter Power. "Were we built for 4 months of 100-plus [degrees]? There's some uncertainty there."
If the early spikes in temperature persist this year, it could stress out the grid and power plants, Smith and Rhodes warned. As well as the grid is working right now, that could change if this summer continues to bring unrelenting heat.
 
"It's like the human body; heat stress is cumulative," Rhodes said. "The body has no time to recover. Power plants are like that as well, they need some time to recover."
 
Rhodes added that renewables have been a big help during this early surge by taking strain off the traditional thermal power plants that use coal and natural gas to keep the lights on.
Human-caused climate change is linked to rising global temperatures and extreme heat. And while it's too early to tell exactly how much climate change is to blame for the current heat wave, it's safe to assume it is a factor, said Andy Dessler who directs the Texas Center for Climate Studies at Texas A&M University.
"It's 100% certain that climate change is contributing to this," Dessler told CNN. "Everything's getting hotter. August is getting hotter; June is getting hotter. It is hot and this is the future."

Overcrowded transmission lines

Even though Texas is an oil and gas giant, renewables -- and particularly, wind -- have long been thriving there. Texas generates the most wind energy in the country: In 2020, it produced more wind electricity than Iowa, Kansas, and Oklahoma — the next three highest states — combined, according to the US Energy Information Administration.
Solar has been a smaller portion of the state's energy mix than wind, but it is growing as well. Solar generated about 4% of electricity in Texas last summer, and is expected to grow to 7.2% this summer, EIA projections show.
 
Building out more solar will be important to deal with heat waves in the depths of summer, when wind speeds tend to drop, experts told CNN. That's because if it's really hot out, there's a good chance the sun is beating down.
But Rhodes and Webber pointed to infrastructure issues limiting the potential of renewables; Texas needs more transmission lines to carry energy generated by renewables to customers. Rhodes pointed to ERCOT projects showing higher solar numbers than what was actually being used; a casualty of over-crowded power lines that can't let the power through to consumers.
"About half of the solar that could be produced is not being produced right now because there's no more room on the lines," Rhodes said. "The numbers for renewables would probably be higher if we had the transmission capacity to move them around."
Wind and solar have natural variability as well; solar can't generate energy during nighttime, and wind turbines don't turn when the wind isn't blowing. That is spurring a big focus on developing more massive batteries that can store and deploy renewable energy when the wind isn't blowing, and the sun isn't shining.
"It does keep growth of renewables strong; it allows you to firm up that renewable capacity," Smith said.
Correction: This story has been updated to correct Joshua Rhodes' name.
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