The Climate Scare Stories Began With Far Left Ideology Per GreenPeace Co-Founder

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I have always heard that your story was correct but checked it anyway. My grandmother's family raised horses in New Mexico and she loved to ride them. My partially Spanish and Apache genes are from her and her half Russian husband who was probably Mestizo. 

https://www.americanheritage.com/how-indian-got-horse

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/when-were-horses-introduced-into-north-america.html

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Whatever "active measures" this bozo invents, is nothing compared to amount of meddling US does. Still is so to this day

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

This stuff is real, most of it already happened. What did Russia do to you, got Trump elected?

I have no problem with Russia, I am partly Russian myself. I love the people of all lands. I hate communism, socialism, dictators, and crony capitalists like those who help Putin run Russia. 

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6 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

I have no problem with Russia, I am partly Russian myself. I love the people of all lands. I hate communism, socialism, dictators, and crony capitalists like those who help Putin run Russia. 

Russian economy is near 70% in state hand again. Not so much left for crony capitalists.

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23 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Whatever "active measures" this bozo invents, is nothing compared to amount of meddling US does. Still is so to this day

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

This stuff is real, most of it already happened. What did Russia do to you, got Trump elected?

23 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Whatever "active measures" this bozo invents, is nothing compared to amount of meddling US does. Still is so to this day

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

This stuff is real, most of it already happened. What did Russia do to you, got Trump elected?

22 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Whatever "active measures" this bozo invents, is nothing compared to amount of meddling US does. Still is so to this day

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

This stuff is real, most of it already happened. What did Russia do to you, got Trump elected?

I have no problem with Russia, I am partly Russian myself. I love the people of all lands. I hate communism, socialism, dictators, and crony capitalists like those who help Putin run Russia. 

Russia is, to my thinking not communist ( except for the history), but more of a crony capitalist dictatorship with a faux democracy facade. That is not really too far from what the American Democrat progressives are attempting to turn America into. If they were to succeed there would eventually be little difference. 

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17 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Russian economy is near 70% in state hand again. Not so much left for crony capitalists.

How much of that is stock that is held by the public domestic or foreign. You are speaking of industry not the total real economy including agriculture and private enterprise. No?

I consider all of Russia's billionaires and multimillionaires to be crony capitalists. There may be some exceptions. The richest are said to be Putin's coterie. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization_in_Russia

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Just now, ronwagn said:

How much of that is stock that is held by the public domestic or foreign. You are speaking of industry not the total real economy including agriculture and private enterprise. No?

I am probably talking about the share of GDP that is generated by companies at least 51% publicly owned. The government reserves the majority shareholder control rights, the rest are regular shares you can invest in. That's very close to total real economy. Russia barely has any small business left due to sanctions induced credit crunch.

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5 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

I am probably talking about the share of GDP that is generated by companies at least 51% publicly owned. The government reserves the majority shareholder control rights, the rest are regular shares you can invest in. That's very close to total real economy. Russia barely has any small business left due to sanctions induced credit crunch.

Russia has so much gold that it could certainly provide credit to its entrepreneurs. Doesn't it want any?

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11 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

How much of that is stock that is held by the public domestic or foreign. You are speaking of industry not the total real economy including agriculture and private enterprise. No?

I consider all of Russia's billionaires and multimillionaires to be crony capitalists. There may be some exceptions. The richest are said to be Putin's coterie. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization_in_Russia

No. Those were the first-gen oligarchs who got their riches out of thin air

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semibankirschina

This was before Putin. The latest batch is genuinely self-made. Let's call them Gen 3 oligarchs. I find that Putin's cronies are actually quite good (Lets call them Gen 2 oligarchs) Like there is this guy who started MasterDent, a chain of 24/7 dental clinics in a kiosk. I had not only a tooth pooled, but fairly complicated surgery done. In the middle of the night, with no prior appointment and for less than $150. You could use something like that, IMHO.

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7 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Russia has so much gold that it could certainly provide credit to its entrepreneurs. Doesn't it want any?

Old problem, still around since the 90ties. The banks active in Russia, including foreign ones, love giving out consumer credit, which mostly goes towards buying imported junk. Credit for domestic business, not so much. Classic banana republic neocolonial setup.

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13 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Russia has so much gold that it could certainly provide credit to its entrepreneurs. Doesn't it want any?

OK, Here is a simpler example. Aquanika, a mineral water company US set onto its sanctions list

https://www.mildberry.com/cases/aquanika/

Which, as the result, has all of their addresses on Google and Yandex maps be bogus. I started looking into that. Turns out, on one hand.

1. It is Putin's cronies. Get all the big government business, like the official water of the Russian railroad

2. The water is good! Turns out, there is a lot more to bottled water business than anybody knew. For example, you should never drink any bottled water from Alpine springs. German Stiftung Warentest reveals deadly amounts of arsenic and heavy metals every time they do spot tests. Why is that? They are usually tapped as hot springs, carrying superheated water/steam which is a much better solvent for stuff that water usually is. Thawed snow, like Evian, is all right. You know what else? Coke! Bottled Coke uses by far the best quality water in Austria, where I live. Get it from their own private well. (Technically, it is a different company called Coca Cola HBC (Hellenica Bottling Company) which used to be responsible for Greece and now does the area from Nigeria to Russia)

Or take the Crimean bridge. On one hand, it was Putin cronies. On other hand, built under budget and faster than expected. (It is a very difficult site, because there is ~70m of quicksand-like sediment on the bottom. A previous bridge once built by Nazis only lasted a season)

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32 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

No. Those were the first-gen oligarchs who got their riches out of thin air

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semibankirschina

This was before Putin. The latest batch is genuinely self-made. Let's call them Gen 3 oligarchs. I find that Putin's cronies are actually quite good (Lets call them Gen 2 oligarchs) Like there is this guy who started MasterDent, a chain of 24/7 dental clinics in a kiosk. I had not only a tooth pooled, but fairly complicated surgery done. In the middle of the night, with no prior appointment and for less than $150. You could use something like that, IMHO.

Yes I could! I am, in fact, in need right now. No pain but I need a tooth pulled due to a small sliver cracking off where I lost a filling. Probably at least a week to get in and  maybe $500 or more just to pull it. I have heard that Russia has good deals on corrective vision surgery also. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Old problem, still around since the 90ties. The banks active in Russia, including foreign ones, love giving out consumer credit, which mostly goes towards buying imported junk. Credit for domestic business, not so much. Classic banana republic neocolonial setup.

The Russian government AKA Putin can easily use some of Russia's gold to finance whatever is needed by businesses. It is not desired however. 

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6 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

OK, Here is a simpler example. Aquanika, a mineral water company US set onto its sanctions list

https://www.mildberry.com/cases/aquanika/

Which, as the result, has all of their addresses on Google and Yandex maps be bogus. I started looking into that. Turns out, on one hand.

1. It is Putin's cronies. Get all the big government business, like the official water of the Russian railroad

2. The water is good! Turns out, there is a lot more to bottled water business than anybody knew. For example, you should never drink any bottled water from Alpine springs. German Stiftung Warentest reveals deadly amounts of arsenic and heavy metals every time they do spot tests. Why is that? They are usually tapped as hot springs, carrying superheated water/steam which is a much better solvent for stuff that water usually is. Thawed snow, like Evian, is all right. You know what else? Coke! Bottled Coke uses by far the best quality water in Austria, where I live. Get it from their own private well. (Technically, it is a different company called Coca Cola HBC (Hellenica Bottling Company) which used to be responsible for Greece and now does the area from Nigeria to Russia)

Or take the Crimean bridge. On one hand, it was Putin cronies. On other hand, built under budget and faster than expected. (It is a very difficult site, because there is ~70m of quicksand-like sediment on the bottom. A previous bridge once built by Nazis only lasted a season)

A very nice bridge unless accidents happen somehow. 

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39 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Yes I could! I am, in fact, in need right now. No pain but I need a tooth pulled do to a small sliver cracking off where I lost a filling. Probably at least a week to get in and  maybe $500 or more just to pull it. I have heard that Russia has good deals on corrective vision surgery also. 

 

Could be worth a ticket?

When I was living in California, I had a wisdom tooth pulled for less than $20 in materials. Submitted myself to University of the Pacific Dental School as a study aid. The noobs couldn't do it and had to unthaw some kind of professor emeritus of dental arts, a tiny grandpa. He said, "Watch it, worms!" and climbed on top of my chest.

The vision correction is done by a laser robot. Human surgeon does very little Whoever has the latest and best device, wins. I had mine done in Bratislava. From -7 myopia to not-quite-perfect state of being simultaneously a bit short- and a bit farsighted. Which they said is likely to happen. Such a large correction might need more than one hop to perfection. Or better! They often do get better than normal vision acuity. I had not the LASIK, but the other one, that heals longer but is approved for pilots and martial artists.

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14 hours ago, RichieRich216 said:

It's because of “ THE YANK “ you can post on this forum. You don't need to thank us. However, You are cordially invited to GO FUCK YOURSELF....

Is this supposed to be some kind of justification for mass murder?

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What did you not understand? “ GO FUCK YOURSELF. "

I don't engage with really intellectually stupid people if you need to look up or google. “intellectually” I will save you the time just look in your momma’s mirror.

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10 minutes ago, RichieRich216 said:

What did you not understand? “ GO FUCK YOURSELF. "

I don't engage with really intellectually stupid people if you need to look up or google. “intellectually” I will save you the time just look in your momma’s mirror.

I'd rather fuck you up, intellectually smart genius

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051?print=1

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On 7/28/2021 at 11:01 PM, Jay McKinsey said:

But you said Obama laid the groundwork for the scandals that worked against prior Republican Presidents. Those were the big scandals for  three prior elected Republican Presidents.

"Obama laid the groundwork and worked together with the government unions and Deep State favorites to take it over. There were plenty of scandals about how it worked against President Trump and prior Republican presidents"

 

 

Absolutely right. Obama continued the socialist AKA communist push. His motto Forward is an old motto of theirs now used by the "progressives." Their are 80 members of the Democrat Progressive Caucus and it steers the entire party, led by the Quad. AOC is a member of the Democrat Socialist Party.  

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/scott-galupo/2012/05/02/what-barack-obamas-forward-slogan-really-means

 

Two Democrats, Manchin and Sinema, are stopping the Democrats from 

destroying our economy in the manner spelled out in the Cloward and Piven plan.

https://farleftfacts.org/far-left-ideology/radicalization-attributes/cloward-piven/

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On 7/27/2021 at 11:27 PM, ronwagn said:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/climate-scare-story-began-with-far-left-ideology-greenpeace-co-founder_3916103.html

Patrick Moore talks about why he left Greenpeace and why the the push for net-zero emissions is an unattainable goal

BY ISAAC TEO

 

July 27, 2021 Updated: July 27, 2021

Excerpt:

The Importance of Carbon Dioxide

When it comes to climate change, the continued narrative of carbon dioxide being a “bad thing” and “destroying the world” is contrary to what the scientific community has found, Moore says. 

Moore currently serves as a director of the CO2 Coalition, established in 2015 to create educational material on the importance of carbon dioxide. The organization has published papers presenting scientific data to dispute that CO2 emissions are causing global warming. 

Contrary to what climate alarmists claim, Moore says, “carbon dioxide is the basis of all life on Earth.”

“It makes the oceans less alkaline, thus making it suitable for life,” and “on land, CO2 makes the greening of the Earth plus it makes plants more efficient with water.” 

In April 2016, an article published in Nature funded in part by NASA found that CO2 fertilization has had significant impact on the greening of the planet.

“From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide,” reads a post on NASA’s site on the study.

I drink CO2 all day long every day. It is very refreshing!

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17 hours ago, markslawson said:

Actually the world is already greening. Here is a quote from a NASA release of last year..

A new study published in the journal Science Advances titled “Biophysical impacts of Earth greening largely controlled by aerodynamic resistance” reports that the entire land surface would have been much warmer without the cooling effect of increased green cover during the recent decades. The study used high-quality satellite data from NASA’s MODIS sensors and NCAR’s state-of-the-art numerical earth system model.

As for the cut back on deforestation this is already happening, at least in developed countries. The deforestation scare stories you read about, say, the Amazon basin, are largely baseless.. farmers cut jungle down in those areas and it grows back. the stories then quote the stats on jungle cut down but does not mention the jungle growing back.. 

And we agree on carbon production.. yes, it wil be both useless and counter-productive.. 

 

Europe has been working hard to increase forest coverage from the initial ~12% to  28% (or more) at the moment. They might have initiated reforestation elsewhere with this excellent effort too. Nevertheless, if they are paying replantation per tree, they might get those malnourished forest of less than 30cm apart among trees, which creates longer lasting fire shall it happen??

But check this out: 50 countries with lowest forest coverage in the world:

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-least-forested-countries-in-the-world.html

Out of geographical constrains, those countries might not have suitable condition for trees. Or fully developed?

What is more alarming is a wild guess.............. that ~ 80% of all 195 countries in the world might have less than 30% of forest coverage?

Single type of agricultural crop over a vast land mass is said facing problem of water shortage around the world. Climate change has been blamed as the culprit. The documentary showed the opposite i.e. vast land mass of mono culture causes climate change in Europe. The causal-effect is as explained in a summary  screenshot in the previous reply.

Compounding with concrete forests......... An estimation of more than 70% of people in the world would be living in urban areas by 2030 (initial figure few years back). 

https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/2018-revision-of-world-urbanization-prospects.html

Imagine these conditions are repeated everywhere in those 80% of 195 countries with lower than 30% forest coverage....... Halloween scare story comes early?

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10 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

I'd rather fuck you up, intellectually smart genius

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051?print=1

ThinkIng about, and BEING ABLE just don't cut it in the real world, Have your mommy change your soiled reusable diaper....

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21 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Yes I could! I am, in fact, in need right now. No pain but I need a tooth pulled due to a small sliver cracking off where I lost a filling. Probably at least a week to get in and  maybe $500 or more just to pull it. I have heard that Russia has good deals on corrective vision surgery also. 

 

Mexico.