ronwagn + 6,290 February 22, 2022 (edited) On 2/22/2022 at 2:24 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: Ron one must accept a few minor details, one would be national pride in Russia it exists just as it exists in all county's on this planet. Russia has a very long history of oppression...very long. Listen to Putin's speech, do not hear what you or I deem appropriate.Putin spoke with compassion and anger towards the dissembly of the USSR. That is not how he rolls in such matters, generally he is aloof in such matters. The above are merely opinions, the man is dead set on this reformation, all he lacks is capital, without capital he cannot complete his goal..and that makes him quite dangerous...and then there's China I hope Putin goes down as the Russian who did more damage to Russia and its people than anyone aside from Stalin. I hope that the Russian people have a great future under a wiser leader. They deserve one IMHO. Edited February 24, 2022 by ronwagn 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heywally + 4 MM February 23, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 12:15 AM, ronwagn said: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/01/25/as-markets-crash-and-war-fears-grow-russias-business-elite-suffers-in-silence-a76142 As Markets Crash and War Fears Grow, Russia’s Business Elite Suffers in Silence Some of the country’s most successful executives are preparing for heavy losses, but unable to speak out or influence events. The thing I don't understand about a creature like Putin is, he could have much more power and money if he just played the role of good global citizen. That's it. I don't get it and am probably glad I don't. What we are possibly facing now is more serious escalation via cyber attacks and the rest of it. If it comes to military force, I believe that "the west" has the military might (nukes aside of course) to "defeat" Russia. But can I envision that happening? Not at all. Me (70 years old in June), I am moving to using the micro CL to trade actively and minimizing equities exposure by downsizing a buy/hold core index ETF and gradually scaling in to that after weakness, scaling out of the scale in adds after strength. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, heywally said: The thing I don't understand about a creature like Putin is, he could have much more power and money if he just played the role of good global citizen. That's it. I don't get it and am probably glad I don't. What we are possibly facing now is more serious escalation via cyber attacks and the rest of it. If it comes to military force, I believe that "the west" has the military might (nukes aside of course) to "defeat" Russia. But can I envision that happening? Not at all. Me (70 years old in June), I am moving to using the micro CL to trade actively and minimizing equities exposure by downsizing a buy/hold core index ETF and gradually scaling in to that after weakness, scaling out of the scale in adds after strength. Welcome to our forum! I hope you stick around. What do you think of Conoco Phillips? I want to support natural gas development. Perhaps there is an ETF for that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 23, 2022 https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-halts-nord-stream-2-after-putin-orders-troops-to-ukrainian-breakaway-regions-11645529981 Ukraine Calls Up Reservists as Russian Troops Pour Into Breakaway Region; West Steps Up Sanctions Western nations to punish Russia for recognizing two Russian-controlled statelets in Ukraine as independent, while Kyiv considers cutting diplomatic ties with Moscow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 23, 2022 Does Putin even care??? he should Gazprom another crash today Stock price: OGZPY (OTCMKTS) $6.39 -0.77 (-10.69%)Feb 23, 3:07 PM EST - Disclaimer Ruble today crashing hard Russian Markets Reeling, With Ruble at Weakest in Pandemic Era Currency’s weakness is ‘here to stay,’ says TD Securities Options show a 50% chance of the ruble falling to a record low By Netty Idayu Ismail , Tugce Ozsoy , and Selcuk Gokoluk February 23, 2022, 12:35 AM MSTUpdated onFebruary 23, 2022, 12:11 PM MST Russian markets have taken historic losses this year and the message coming from traders is that more declines may be ahead for the ruble. The currency extended declines against the dollar on Wednesday, hitting its weakest level since the onset of the pandemic in March 2020 and past the 81-per-dollar level ahead of President Joe Biden’s announcement to expand sanctions against Russia. Options pricing suggests there’s a 50% chance the ruble will sink to a record low against the dollar within the next two months -- dipping below levels from 2016 when the economy was mired in a recession. Technical analysts are also eyeing the same move, with a trendline of the currency pair on the verge of giving way. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heywally + 4 MM February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, ronwagn said: Welcome to our forum! I hope you stick around. What do you think of Conoco Phillips? I want to support natural gas development. Perhaps there is an ETF for that. Thank you. No opinion really on individual oil companies. I come from a multi year active trading tech stock background and my plan is to actively trade the MCL micro oil contract via scaling in and out while I mostly sit in my smallish stock index etf. Simple, right? 😄 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 24, 2022 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-new-zealand-australia-europe-08ae29f98152817b1b503b4b957c63f1 https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-new-zealand-australia-europe-08ae29f98152817b1b503b4b957c63f1 Click to copy RELATED TOPICS Russia-Ukraine United Nations General Assembly Business United Nations Russia Europe Vladimir Putin The Latest: Ukraine envoy to UN says Russia ‘declared war’ By The Associated Press6 minutes ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st February 24, 2022 So it looks like this "operation" was planned for a few days ago: Quote Russia’s independent Ekho Moskvi Radio (Echo of Moscow) reports that Putin’s speech about the beginning of the “military operation” was recorded on February 21st. He is wearing same tie. “Confirmed by downloading video from Kremlin web-page and checking metadata” – tweet says. https://twitter.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1496705752114900993?s=21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,756 RP February 24, 2022 Russian assets have been the most heavily hit following Vladimir Putin's decision to wage war on Ukraine. Russia's currency, the rouble, has fallen to an all-time low on foreign exchange markets and is down by some 12% since the beginning of the week. The decline in the rouble is particularly significant because it is one of the main ways in which the consequences of Mr Putin’s war will be brought home to the Russian public. They can expect to pay more for imported goods as a result of this – assuming those goods are not subjected to trade embargoes in coming days. The country's bonds have also sold off aggressively. The yield – which rises as the price falls – on 10-year Russian government bonds has surged to 10.93%, a level not seen since early 2016. The cost of insuring against a Russian debt default, measured via products known as credit default swaps, has also shot to an all-time high. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 24, 2022 Ruble drops to a record low 1.012 cents American. Still dropping. Russian stock market shuts down. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 24, 2022 Russia, The new Cuba.....except without the nice beaches. Can Russians even to afford to heat their houses today with the Ruble crash? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starschy + 211 PM February 24, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, notsonice said: Russia, The new Cuba.....except without the nice beaches. Can Russians even to afford to heat their houses today with the Ruble crash? Cuba does not have 630 Billion USD in Reserve by far not. A weak Rubel means more export for Russia. Countries like Turkey, Egypt, China just to name a few. This oattern we have viewed a few times since 2015. Edited February 24, 2022 by Starschy 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 24, 2022 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/24/we-dont-need-war-shock-anger-and-defiance-on-moscows-streets-as-russia-invades-ukraine-a76574 ‘We Don’t Need War’: Shock, Anger and Defiance on Moscow’s Streets as Russia Invades Ukraine Weeks of intense diplomacy and the imposition of Western sanctions failed to avert the offensive. By James Beardsworth Updated: 4 hours ago Police officers detain a man holding a placard reading "No to war!" during a protest against Russia's invasion of Ukraine on Moscow's Pushkinskaya Square on Feb. 24, 2022.Kirill Kudryavtsev / AFP 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 24, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Starschy said: Cuba does not have 630 Billion USD in Reserve by far not. A weak Rubel means more export for Russia. Countries like Turkey, Egypt, China just to name a few. This oattern we have viewed a few times since 2015. the everyday Russian citizen was making $500 a month last year now it is closer to $400. Putin and his cronies have never shared the big money with the masses. He will let them starve first. More exports.... Good luck on that one ..... sanctions will be ramped up so no one will trade with Russia. Edited February 24, 2022 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 24, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ronwagn said: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/24/we-dont-need-war-shock-anger-and-defiance-on-moscows-streets-as-russia-invades-ukraine-a76574 ‘We Don’t Need War’: Shock, Anger and Defiance on Moscow’s Streets as Russia Invades Ukraine Weeks of intense diplomacy and the imposition of Western sanctions failed to avert the offensive. By James Beardsworth Updated: 4 hours ago Police officers detain a man holding a placard reading "No to war!" during a protest against Russia's invasion of Ukraine on Moscow's Pushkinskaya Square on Feb. 24, 2022.Kirill Kudryavtsev / AFP This is exactly why Ukraine wants nothing to do with Russia....... Arrested for voicing ones opinion. Would you want to live in Russia today? Edited February 24, 2022 by notsonice 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starschy + 211 PM February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, notsonice said: the everyday Russian citizen was making $500 a month last year now it is closer to $400. Putin and his cronies have never shared the big money with the masses. He will let them starve first. More exports.... Good luck on that one ..... sanctions will be ramped up so no one will trade with Russia. You have not a clue. 30 Countries of 210 is by far not a majority. Do you think People in Egypt Morocco cares? If no wheat is available. The US destroyed Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq and a few others. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, Starschy said: You have not a clue. 30 Countries of 210 is by far not a majority. Do you think People in Egypt Morocco cares? If no wheat is available. The US destroyed Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq and a few others. what are you babbling about???? You can bet the sanctions will have a long arm and affect everyone that trades with Russia. Enjoy seeing how Egypt tries to get paid and deposit their money without SWIFT. Have you ever done a foreign wire transfer?????...You would know it always goes through SWIFT...Now Poof for moeny transfers to and from Russia...Enjoy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 25, 2022 FACEBOOK TWITTER LINKEDIN COPY FREE LINK EMAIL OPINION REVIEW & OUTLOOK How Ukraine Was Betrayed in Budapest Kyiv gave up its nuclear weapons in return for security assurances. So much for that. By The Editorial Board Follow Feb. 23, 2022 6:52 pm ET President Bill Clinton, Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Ukrainian counterpart Leonid M. Kravchuk join hands after signing the nuclear disarmament agreement in the Kremlin, Jan. 14, 1994. PHOTO: DIANA WALKER/GETTY IMAGES 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ronwagn said: FACEBOOK TWITTER LINKEDIN COPY FREE LINK EMAIL OPINION REVIEW & OUTLOOK How Ukraine Was Betrayed in Budapest Kyiv gave up its nuclear weapons in return for security assurances. So much for that. By The Editorial Board Follow Feb. 23, 2022 6:52 pm ET President Bill Clinton, Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Ukrainian counterpart Leonid M. Kravchuk join hands after signing the nuclear disarmament agreement in the Kremlin, Jan. 14, 1994. PHOTO: DIANA WALKER/GETTY IMAGES 8 minutes ago, ronwagn said: FACEBOOK TWITTER LINKEDIN COPY FREE LINK EMAIL OPINION REVIEW & OUTLOOK How Ukraine Was Betrayed in Budapest Kyiv gave up its nuclear weapons in return for security assurances. So much for that. By The Editorial Board Follow Feb. 23, 2022 6:52 pm ET President Bill Clinton, Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Ukrainian counterpart Leonid M. Kravchuk join hands after signing the nuclear disarmament agreement in the Kremlin, Jan. 14, 1994. PHOTO: DIANA WALKER/GETTY IMAGES and for this reason NATO should never yield an inch to Putin....I hope NATO keeps expanding until Putin is walled in a 8 x8 cell Edited February 25, 2022 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,006 GE February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, notsonice said: and for this reason NATO should never yield an inch to Putin....I hope NATO keeps expanding until Putin is walled in a 8 x8 cell That is WWIII Do you not acknowledge Russia's right to exist? Who in your fantasy would control current Russia? The current setup keeps a fairly stable balance of power. Did you not play RISK as a kid? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: That is WWIII Do you not acknowledge Russia's right to exist? Who in your fantasy would control current Russia? The current setup keeps a fairly stable balance of power. Did you not play RISK as a kid? Do you not acknowledge Russia's right to exist? Not with Putin in charge........No different than Germany in the 1940's. I would have had no problem with chopping up Russia .. They have no problem with chopping up the Ukraine To bad Patton was stopped, we would never have to deal with all of the USSRs' BS and now Putins BS today love playing risk and we still play it today............ Edited February 25, 2022 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 February 25, 2022 https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2022/02/24/russia-issues-ukraine-terms-surrender-give-up-your-weapons/ Russia Issues Ukraine Terms of Surrender: Give Up Your Weapons 15 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 February 25, 2022 Enough said.. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starschy + 211 PM February 25, 2022 (edited) On 2/25/2022 at 1:18 AM, notsonice said: what are you babbling about???? You can bet the sanctions will have a long arm and affect everyone that trades with Russia. Enjoy seeing how Egypt tries to get paid and deposit their money without SWIFT. Have you ever done a foreign wire transfer?????...You would know it always goes through SWIFT...Now Poof for moeny transfers to and from Russia...Enjoy Maybe you should read a book about Payments System. Ever heard of Hawala existing since the 800 after Jesus in Persia to India now globally. Centralbank xchanges for large amounts. Russia itself has a Swift replacement at least on a Extended level but not global in place since 2015. And a chinese variant is available too. Saudia Arabia is experimenting with a system POS direct to the supplier. Edited February 26, 2022 by Starschy typo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM February 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starschy said: Maybe you should read a book about Payments System. Ever hearf of Hawala existing since the 800 after Jesus in Persia to India now globally. Centralbank xchanges for large amounts. Russia itself has a Swift replacement at least on a Extended level but not global in place since 2015. And a chinese variant is available too. Saudia Arabia is experimenting with a system POS direct to the supplier. maybe you should take a minute and read up on Russians reliance on SWIFT. Without SWIFT he is screwed and Russia will collapse. Ha Ha Ha Russia has a SWIFT replacement, what a joke. Only dimwitted Russians believe him. Edited February 25, 2022 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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