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American Natural Gas Production is Hampered by the Biden Administration Policies. RCW

 

Calls for increased natural gas production ignore US infrastructure needs

Published May 16, 2022
By Amy Andryszak
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The following is a contributed article by Amy Andryszak, president & CEO of the Interstate Natural Gas Association of America.

Over the past two months, the Biden administration has called on domestic natural gas companies to ramp-up production to assist our allies in Europe through increased exports of liquefied natural gas, or LNG. But missing from the conversation is approving infrastructure that will safely transport that additional supply from where it is produced to export facilities. Put simply, we must expand our natural gas transmission system to accommodate increased production. This increase in infrastructure capacity will require an honest evaluation of the permitting challenges currently plaguing natural gas infrastructure development in our nation.

 

While he was on the campaign trail, INGAA was encouraged by then-candidate Biden’s remarks about the strategic importance of natural gas. We believed President Biden understood that natural gas and its related infrastructure could help his administration achieve its climate goals by reducing CO2 emissions and enabling the greater adoption of renewable energy sources, all while providing a reliable and affordable choice to meet our country’s expanding energy needs.

Unfortunately, decisions and rhetoric from federal agencies over the last 16 months tell the story of an administration that does not appear to value natural gas. Their actions have indicated that the administration is seeking to use regulatory and permitting mechanisms to transition our domestic energy portfolio away from natural gas, instead of capitalizing on the natural resources available here at home that are necessary to meeting our nation’s climate goals and assisting our allies overseas.

Consider the following.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s track record is just one of many proof points of the already difficult and lengthy process to build infrastructure in this country. From June 2021 until March 2022, FERC did not approve any major natural gas projects. Since then, FERC has approved six, but there are still 8 major natural gas projects pending approval before the commission with the combined potential to provide more than 11.3 million cubic feet of natural gas per day in additional capacity. Without this additional transportation capacity, some of the additional gas supply policymakers are calling on developers to produce may not reach American consumers or LNG terminals.

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In addition to this project backlog, FERC recently introduced updates to its 1999 certificate policy statements that will make it more difficult to build the required infrastructure to get additional production to market. These revisions marked a striking departure from the Commission’s historical, congressionally authorized role as a fundamentally economic regulator, and instead charted a new path as a de facto climate regulator for the entire natural-gas sector — from the wellhead where it’s produced to the burner tip, manufacturing facility or export terminal for end use.

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This is the type of regulatory action that has the potential to severely disrupt the permitting process and prevent the development of much-needed, job-creating infrastructure. FERC has an opportunity to revise these draft proposals to meet the policy objectives outlined by the Biden administration, which calls for added production of domestic natural gas resources.

In addition to what’s happening at FERC, we are also seeing aggressive regulatory activity from the Army Corps of Engineers, Council for Environmental Quality, Environmental Protection Agency and Securities and Exchange Commission that all have the potential to further impede the permitting process. These policy changes will also have a dramatic — and negative — impact on the investments necessary to build additional energy infrastructure in our country.  

In short, the Biden administration’s words and their policy actions are telling two different stories. While the President has recently shifted his narrative to support American natural gas, his administration continues to introduce and implement policy that impacts our industry through added delays and costs. Though his messaging may be encouraging, the actions tell a different story. Rhetoric must match reality.

INGAA strongly encourages the Biden administration to signal to markets and their own federal agencies that they value the strategic importance of natural gas in helping achieve our nation’s security goals, and also our climate goals. Now is not the time to be throwing up additional regulatory roadblocks. Rather, permitting agencies like FERC need to take action today by moving pending projects forward. By doing so, we can ensure the reliable transport of natural gas necessary to meet our country’s energy and climate goals both at home and abroad.

– Amy Andryszak

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Germany has awakened from its slumber and dreams of cheap Russian natural gas. RCW

 

Calls for increased natural gas production ignore US infrastructure needs

Published May 16, 2022
By Amy Andryszak
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The following is a contributed article by Amy Andryszak, president & CEO of the Interstate Natural Gas Association of America.

Over the past two months, the Biden administration has called on domestic natural gas companies to ramp-up production to assist our allies in Europe through increased exports of liquefied natural gas, or LNG. But missing from the conversation is approving infrastructure that will safely transport that additional supply from where it is produced to export facilities. Put simply, we must expand our natural gas transmission system to accommodate increased production. This increase in infrastructure capacity will require an honest evaluation of the permitting challenges currently plaguing natural gas infrastructure development in our nation.

 

While he was on the campaign trail, INGAA was encouraged by then-candidate Biden’s remarks about the strategic importance of natural gas. We believed President Biden understood that natural gas and its related infrastructure could help his administration achieve its climate goals by reducing CO2 emissions and enabling the greater adoption of renewable energy sources, all while providing a reliable and affordable choice to meet our country’s expanding energy needs.

Unfortunately, decisions and rhetoric from federal agencies over the last 16 months tell the story of an administration that does not appear to value natural gas. Their actions have indicated that the administration is seeking to use regulatory and permitting mechanisms to transition our domestic energy portfolio away from natural gas, instead of capitalizing on the natural resources available here at home that are necessary to meeting our nation’s climate goals and assisting our allies overseas.

Consider the following.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s track record is just one of many proof points of the already difficult and lengthy process to build infrastructure in this country. From June 2021 until March 2022, FERC did not approve any major natural gas projects. Since then, FERC has approved six, but there are still 8 major natural gas projects pending approval before the commission with the combined potential to provide more than 11.3 million cubic feet of natural gas per day in additional capacity. Without this additional transportation capacity, some of the additional gas supply policymakers are calling on developers to produce may not reach American consumers or LNG terminals.

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In addition to this project backlog, FERC recently introduced updates to its 1999 certificate policy statements that will make it more difficult to build the required infrastructure to get additional production to market. These revisions marked a striking departure from the Commission’s historical, congressionally authorized role as a fundamentally economic regulator, and instead charted a new path as a de facto climate regulator for the entire natural-gas sector — from the wellhead where it’s produced to the burner tip, manufacturing facility or export terminal for end use.

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This is the type of regulatory action that has the potential to severely disrupt the permitting process and prevent the development of much-needed, job-creating infrastructure. FERC has an opportunity to revise these draft proposals to meet the policy objectives outlined by the Biden administration, which calls for added production of domestic natural gas resources.

In addition to what’s happening at FERC, we are also seeing aggressive regulatory activity from the Army Corps of Engineers, Council for Environmental Quality, Environmental Protection Agency and Securities and Exchange Commission that all have the potential to further impede the permitting process. These policy changes will also have a dramatic — and negative — impact on the investments necessary to build additional energy infrastructure in our country.  

In short, the Biden administration’s words and their policy actions are telling two different stories. While the President has recently shifted his narrative to support American natural gas, his administration continues to introduce and implement policy that impacts our industry through Continued.....

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New York State has blocked a natural gas pipeline from Pennsylvania which is the best potential supplier. New York gets most of its gas from Pennsylvania and Canada. RCW

 

Natural Gas Infrastructure Constraints

During the last few years, inadequate infrastructure to transport natural gas has at times affected the ability of natural-gas-fired plants to get the fuel they need to perform. This energy-security risk has become a pressing concern in New England, considering the major role natural-gas-fired generation plays in keeping the lights on and setting prices for wholesale electricity.

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The performance of the largest and most flexible sector of generators is weakened by insufficient pipeline and storage capacity

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New England Has Benefited from Natural-Gas-Fired-Generation

In 2000, natural gas fueled just 15% of the region’s electricity. Since then, it has become the dominant fuel used to produce electricity in New England, displacing higher emitting and less economic power plants. With supply from the nearby Marcellus Shale and relatively low construction costs, natural gas continues to be a top fuel choice for new generators. These new power plants are not only some of the most efficient in the country, but in the world. (Learn about the resource mix.)

The shift to natural gas has benefited the region in many ways:

  • The use of relatively clean-burning natural gas, along with emission controls on fossil-fuel-burning generators and other factors, has contributed to a significant long-term decline in regional air emissions.
  • Natural gas prices, typically lower than other fossil fuels for most of the year, have helped the annual energy market value remain well below its high of $12 billion in 2008 and reach record lows in 2016. Fuel costs are typically one of the major inputs in the wholesale price of electricity. Follow the effects of natural gas in the ISO’s monthly analyses of electricity prices and demand.
  • The ability of many natural-gas-fired plants to change output quickly helps to balance the variations in output from increasing levels of intermittent power resources that rely on the wind and sun.

Access to Fuel Has Become Uncertain during Winter

During many recent winters, regional gas utilities have been using most, if not all, of the capacity on the pipelines that carry natural gas into New England. This is particularly true during very cold periods when heating demand is high. This leaves very little to no pipeline capacity for electric generators, which creates a number of concerns for the power system:

  • Reliability risks: Because such a large and still growing quantity of the region’s generating capacity uses natural gas (learn more at Key Stats—Resource Mix), its unavailability can pose a serious risk to the reliable supply of electricity. This is particularly true when non-gas-fired resources are also unavailable, for example, due to:
    • Mechanical problems for some of the region’s aging non-gas-fired generators
    • Reduced imports from neighboring grids dealing with the same weather
    • Delayed oil and LNG deliveries
    • Unfavorable weather conditions for solar and wind resources

    Energy-security risk is not as apparent during mild winters, when heating demand for natural gas is lower and there’s more natural gas available for generators. However, New England winters are unpredictable. On the coldest days, fuel constraints could sideline thousands of megawatts of natural-gas-fired generation. When that happens, system operators turn to power plants with stored fuel—coal, oil, or nuclear—to meet demand. If the region were to experience a “perfect storm” of problems with grid resources, ISO system operators could be forced to use special measures to protect the grid. Those could include asking the public to conserve electricity or, in extreme cases, ordering load shedding (rolling blackouts affecting blocks of customers). This risk is likely to grow unless the region can find ways to offset the loss of more non-gas-fired power resources as they retire.

  • Air emissions: Pipeline constraints can also affect regional air emissions during winter because the ISO has to run higher-emitting generators when gas-fired units can’t access fuel or when the price of natural gas spikes. During the cold spell that spanned the end of 2017 and beginning of 2018, New England’s power system relied heavily on oil generation, and daily carbon dioxide emissions rose to an average of over 220,000 short tons, up from 100,000 short tons per day leading up to the cold snap.
  • Price volatility: Similarly, the price of natural gas tends to spike as temperatures drop and demand for the fuel increases. This has an immediate effect on wholesale electricity prices. For example, natural gas delivery constraints during the 16-day cold spell of 2017–2018 significantly affected energy-market prices. The region’s wholesale energy market was valued at $992 million for the two-week period from December 26 to January 8, compared with $243 million during the same time the prior year. Over the course of the entire winter, the energy market was valued at $2.6 billion, with approximately 38% of that coming during the cold snap. See how prices for wholesale electricity track natural gas.

Wholesale Energy Costs during Winter 2017-2018 Compared to Winter 2016-2017 data

Pipeline Development Hasn’t Kept Pace with Demand

Energy-security risks may be more acute in New England than in most other regions because New England is “at the end of the pipeline" when it comes to natural gas and the other fuels used most often to generate the region’s power. New England has no indigenous fossil fuels and therefore, fuels must be delivered by pipeline, ship, truck, or barge from distant places. Additionally, the natural gas pipeline system within New England is relatively small, and its access to the rest of the North American pipeline network is limited. This also makes the region vulnerable to pipeline interruptions. In regions with a more robust pipeline network, a failure at a single point on the pipeline system typically can be contained to a local area and routed around, but such an outage in New England will likely create significant impacts.

The tremendous growth in natural-gas-fired generating capacity is shown in the graph below. But the natural gas pipelines that deliver low-cost shale gas into the region have not been expanded at a commensurate pace. Further, pipelines are built and sized to serve customers with firm contracts for capacity, typically gas utilities, not electricity generators.

  • Gas utilities commit to the long-term contracts required for incentivizing pipeline development.
  • Generators, on the other hand, typically forego these premium contracts, instead arranging for fuel only as needed and relying on unused pipeline capacity for delivery.

Because generators have no guarantee for when or how long they’ll be called to run—and there’s no practical way for them to store excess pipeline gas or electricity on site—contracting for pipeline capacity only when needed helps natural-gas-fired generators keep their costs as low as possible to maintain competitiveness in the wholesale electricity markets.

While that strategy works for most of the year, on cold days the pipelines are running at or near maximum capacity solely to meet heating demand. During several recent winters, this situation has severely limited the delivery of fuel to much of the region’s power plants, which, in turn, threatened the reliable supply of electricity and drove up wholesale electricity prices and air emissions.

Cumulative new generating capacity

Generators Running on Oil also Raise Energy-Security Concerns

Energy security isn’t just about natural gas. Adequate arrangements for oil delivery are also a concern for both generators that run exclusively on this fuel source and those natural-gas-fired generators that have the ability to switch to oil.

“Dual-fuel technology” that allows generators to switch to oil may be the most cost-effective investment natural-gas-fired generators might take to ensure they can run when pipelines are constrained. However, state restrictions on air emissions may limit their ability to run on oil. Consequently, more natural gas plants may need to turn to LNG in winter when pipeline gas is unavailable or its price spikes.

Will Imported Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) Fill the Gap?

While more natural-gas-fired generators may turn to LNG, several factors can impede generators’ access to LNG when it’s most needed.

  • First, LNG is a global commodity that’s imported to New England by ocean-going tankers, so it must be contracted for months in advance—an option most generators elect not to pursue.
  • Second, the arrival of any spot LNG cargoes depends on global prices and vary from year to year; they also supply the entire Northeast and beyond—not just New England generators.
  • Third, severe weather could prevent the timely arrival of ships.

Contracts for winter deliveries of LNG, as well as the construction of on-site LNG storage, are among the options generators could invest in to satisfy performance requirements in the capacity market.

 

The ISO’s Efforts Have Mitigated the Energy-Security Risk but Will Not Solve the Problem

Addressing the energy-security issue is currently the region’s highest-priority challenge. While the ISO doesn’t have the authority to require generators to make long-term investments in fuel supplies, we have been developing tactics for the past six years to mitigate the fuel-security risk, such as:

  • Developing new situational awareness and forecasting tools for our system operators to confirm fuel availability for natural-gas-fired units
  • Improving communication and coordination with interstate pipeline operators
  • Implementing Winter Reliability Programs that pay demand-response resources to be available and generators to boost winter fuel inventories of oil and LNG or to invest in dual-fuel technology (the ability to switch between different fuels, typically natural gas and oil)
  • Fine-tuning the energy markets to strengthen resource performance
  • Instituting “pay for performance” (PFP) enhancements that, starting in 2018, will reward resources that make the investments needed to ensure performance during periods of system stress, such as by contracting for adequate fuel, while resources that don’t perform will forfeit capacity payments

Although PFP provides an efficient market mechanism to boost performance, it may not address all aspects of the region’s energy-security challenges that emerged after PFP was developed. PFP’s pricing provides a strong real-time signal for resources to prepare for tight operating conditions and to perform when the system is in an “at-risk” situation, but it’s not a forecasting tool—it does not signal the risk in advance. Given that the region’s fuel infrastructure can become tightly constrained and fuel logistics complex during harsh winter conditions resource owners need advance notice of energy constraints to that they have time to make fuel delivery or other preparations. This will become more critical as fuel constraints continue to tighten with resource retirements and progressively stricter emission limitations on the power industry.

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Annual U.S. LNG exports forecast to exceed pipeline exports in 2022

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s (EIA) February 2021 Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO), EIA forecasts that U.S. LNG exports will exceed natural gas exports by pipeline in the first and fourth quarters of 2021 and on an annual basis in 2022. Monthly U.S. LNG exports exceeded natural gas exports by pipeline by nearly 1.2 billion cubic feet per day (Bcf/d) in November 2020, according to EIA’s Natural Gas Monthly. LNG exports have only exceeded natural gas exports by pipeline once since 1998—in April 2020—by 0.01 Bcf/d.

U.S. LNG exports set consecutive monthly records of 9.4 Bcf/d in November and of 9.8 Bcf/d in both December 2020 and January 2021, according to EIA’s estimates based on the shipping data provided by Bloomberg Finance, L.P. EIA forecasts that U.S. LNG gross exports will average 9.7 Bcf/d in February 2021 before declining to seasonal lows in the shoulder months of the spring and fall seasons. EIA forecasts LNG exports to average 8.5 Bcf/d in 2021 and 9.2 Bcf/d in 2022, compared with average gross pipeline exports of 8.8 Bcf/d in 2021 and 8.9 Bcf/d in 2022.

Since November 2020, all six U.S. LNG export facilities have been operating near full design capacity. In December, the Corpus Christi LNG facility in Texas commissioned its third and final liquefaction unit six months ahead of schedule, bringing the total U.S. liquefaction capacity to 9.5 Bcf/d baseload (10.8 Bcf/d peak) across six export terminals. The November–January increase in U.S. LNG exports has been driven by rising international natural gas and LNG prices, particularly in Asia, and lower global LNG supply because of unplanned outages at several LNG export facilities worldwide.

U.S. monthly natural gas pipeline and LNG exports

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Natural Gas Monthly

U.S. pipeline exports to Mexico increased by 6.4% in the first eleven months of 2020 compared with the same period in 2019 as a result of the completion of a new segment of the Wahalajara pipeline system in June and the Cempoala compressor station in September. The completion of Mexico’s Samalayuca-Sásabe pipeline (0.47 Bcf/d capacity) in January 2021 and the expected completion of Tula-Villa de Reyes pipeline (0.89 Bcf/d capacity) later this year are expected to further increase U.S. pipeline exports to Mexico.

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:32 PM, Ron Wagner said:

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American Natural Gas Production is Hampered by the Biden Administration Policies. RCW

 

Calls for increased natural gas production ignore US infrastructure needs

Published May 16, 2022
By Amy Andryszak
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The following is a contributed article by Amy Andryszak, president & CEO of the Interstate Natural Gas Association of America.

Over the past two months, the Biden administration has called on domestic natural gas companies to ramp-up production to assist our allies in Europe through increased exports of liquefied natural gas, or LNG. But missing from the conversation is approving infrastructure that will safely transport that additional supply from where it is produced to export facilities. Put simply, we must expand our natural gas transmission system to accommodate increased production. This increase in infrastructure capacity will require an honest evaluation of the permitting challenges currently plaguing natural gas infrastructure development in our nation.

 

While he was on the campaign trail, INGAA was encouraged by then-candidate Biden’s remarks about the strategic importance of natural gas. We believed President Biden understood that natural gas and its related infrastructure could help his administration achieve its climate goals by reducing CO2 emissions and enabling the greater adoption of renewable energy sources, all while providing a reliable and affordable choice to meet our country’s expanding energy needs.

Unfortunately, decisions and rhetoric from federal agencies over the last 16 months tell the story of an administration that does not appear to value natural gas. Their actions have indicated that the administration is seeking to use regulatory and permitting mechanisms to transition our domestic energy portfolio away from natural gas, instead of capitalizing on the natural resources available here at home that are necessary to meeting our nation’s climate goals and assisting our allies overseas.

Consider the following.

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s track record is just one of many proof points of the already difficult and lengthy process to build infrastructure in this country. From June 2021 until March 2022, FERC did not approve any major natural gas projects. Since then, FERC has approved six, but there are still 8 major natural gas projects pending approval before the commission with the combined potential to provide more than 11.3 million cubic feet of natural gas per day in additional capacity. Without this additional transportation capacity, some of the additional gas supply policymakers are calling on developers to produce may not reach American consumers or LNG terminals.

FERC_outstanding_projects.png
Permission granted by INGAA
 

In addition to this project backlog, FERC recently introduced updates to its 1999 certificate policy statements that will make it more difficult to build the required infrastructure to get additional production to market. These revisions marked a striking departure from the Commission’s historical, congressionally authorized role as a fundamentally economic regulator, and instead charted a new path as a de facto climate regulator for the entire natural-gas sector — from the wellhead where it’s produced to the burner tip, manufacturing facility or export terminal for end use.

Thanks! Look out for an email from us soon.

This is the type of regulatory action that has the potential to severely disrupt the permitting process and prevent the development of much-needed, job-creating infrastructure. FERC has an opportunity to revise these draft proposals to meet the policy objectives outlined by the Biden administration, which calls for added production of domestic natural gas resources.

In addition to what’s happening at FERC, we are also seeing aggressive regulatory activity from the Army Corps of Engineers, Council for Environmental Quality, Environmental Protection Agency and Securities and Exchange Commission that all have the potential to further impede the permitting process. These policy changes will also have a dramatic — and negative — impact on the investments necessary to build additional energy infrastructure in our country.  

In short, the Biden administration’s words and their policy actions are telling two different stories. While the President has recently shifted his narrative to support American natural gas, his administration continues to introduce and implement policy that impacts our industry through added delays and costs. Though his messaging may be encouraging, the actions tell a different story. Rhetoric must match reality.roject start yesterday (Friday).

INGAA strongly encourages the Biden administration to signal to markets and their own federal agencies that they value the strategic importance of natural gas in helping achieve our nation’s security goals, and also our climate goals. Now is not the time to be throwing up additional regulatory roadblocks. Rather, permitting agencies like FERC need to take action today by moving pending projects forward. By doing so, we can ensure the reliable transport of natural gas necessary to meet our country’s energy and climate goals both at home and abroad.

– Amy Andryszak

I am not sure what Amy's agenda is but three new pipelines announced project started  with T-4's filed  at  the Texas Railroad Commission.  They are Matterhorn and Permian Pass that run from Waha to Katy and Warrior runs from the Permian to Bethel near Dallas. That is some 6BCF/d. Maybe because those are Texas instrastates not interstates the little birdie hasn't told her yet.

https://rbnenergy.com/life-in-the-fast-lane-new-permian-gas-pipeline-matterhorn-expess-takes-fid

Texas pipeline  operators share the  same ROW instead of busting off in a new direction.  The Pennsylvania project could have gone about 15 miles further north  and used the Texas Eastern line ROW or  connected to the Tennessee Pipeline 300 line at the Ny/Penn state line  and have been done 3 years ago.  They lost in court who  to told them to try the TETCO or Tennessee ROW's and not mess with the Appalachian  Trail Nat'l Park. These idiots have no one but themselves to blame. Sharing the ROW does mean they will have to compete on shipping charges but that is the American Way.

rI can think of three 42 inch lines in the same row.

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I am not sure what Amy's agenda is but three new pipelines announced project started  with T-4's filed  at  the Texas Railroad Commission.  They are Matterhorn and Permian Pass that run from Waha to Katy and Warrior runs from the Permian to Bethel near Dallas. That is some 6BCF/d. Maybe because those are Texas instrastates not interstates the little birdie hasn't told her yet.

https://rbnenergy.com/life-in-the-fast-lane-new-permian-gas-pipeline-matterhorn-expess-takes-fid

Texas pipeline  operators share the  same ROW instead of busting off in a new direction.  The Pennsylvania project could have gone about 15 miles further north  and used the Texas Eastern line ROW or  connected to the Tennessee Pipeline 300 line at the Ny/Penn state line  and have been done 3 years ago.  They lost in court who  to told them to try the TETCO or Tennessee ROW's and not mess with the Appalachian  Trail Nat'l Park. These idiots have no one but themselves to blame. Sharing the ROW does mean they will have to compete on shipping charges but that is the American Way.

rI can think of three 42 inch line

17 hours ago, nsdp said:

I am not sure what Amy's agenda is but three new pipelines announced project started  with T-4's filed  at  the Texas Railroad Commission.  They are Matterhorn and Permian Pass that run from Waha to Katy and Warrior runs from the Permian to Bethel near Dallas. That is some 6BCF/d. Maybe because those are Texas instrastates not interstates the little birdie hasn't told her yet.

https://rbnenergy.com/life-in-the-fast-lane-new-permian-gas-pipeline-matterhorn-expess-takes-fid

Texas pipeline  operators share the  same ROW instead of busting off in a new direction.  The Pennsylvania project could have gone about 15 miles further north  and used the Texas Eastern line ROW or  connected to the Tennessee Pipeline 300 line at the Ny/Penn state line  and have been done 3 years ago.  They lost in court who  to told them to try the TETCO or Tennessee ROW's and not mess with the Appalachian  Trail Nat'l Park. These idiots have no one but themselves to blame. Sharing the ROW does mean they will have to compete on shipping charges but that is the American Way.

rI can think of three 42 inch lines in the same row.

s in the same row.

So, you are saying that there are no real impediments to supplying natural gas to New England? I have heard otherwise from many sources. I think they were all pipeline ideas. I am a big fan of the Appalachians and National Parks, but I do not see a pipeline passing through them as a big problem. I think it is much more important for New England to have a fair price on natural gas. 

I see Russia finding buyers in Asia, at reduced prices, for natural gas and oil. That will bring down worldwide prices in a couple of years as newer fields are developed. 

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So, you are saying that there are no real impediments to supplying natural gas to New England? I have heard otherwise from many sources. I think they were all pipeline ideas. I am a big fan of the Appalachians and National Parks, but I do not see a pipeline passing through them as a big problem. I think it is much more important for New England to have a fair price on natural gas. 

I see Russia finding buyers in Asia, at reduced prices, for natural gas and oil. That will bring down worldwide prices in a couple of years as newer fields are developed. 

Ron, it is just like Keystone XL.  If it had paralleled the existing Keystone line from Hardesty Alberta to Steele City NB it would have been complete in 2013.   The presidential permit was already in place for the original crossing. TransCanada just had to move west and cross in Montana where there were no crossings.  No legal basis to require a new one  if they had stayed in the original ROW  in ND instead of going 100 miles west.  Start point and end point were the same.  Between Agua Dulce  and Katy, there are EXXON Gas Systems, Transco,  2 Tennessee Gas lines, United Gas Pipeline , United Texas Gas pipeline, Houston Pipeline  and Channel Industries.  Those were the names as of about 2000 with the buying and selling due to the mergers who knows what the name is this week.   The difference on this NG line is the route is virgin territory. 

Here is one that played by all the rules and won. Feds clear way for Constitution Pipeline in New York over state's objection. Final thought  it doesn't pay to be a bully.

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Has the Boston-New York Rivalry Gone too Far? | The Motley Fool This shows the competing projects that got approval. Partially operating means there was already a line in place moving gas.   Application to enlarge was filed and is always favored over new project. .

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:16 PM, Ron Wagner said:

https://www.iso-ne.com/about/what-we-do/in-depth/natural-gas-infrastructure-constraints

New York State has blocked a natural gas pipeline from Pennsylvania which is the best potential supplier. New York gets most of its gas from Pennsylvania and Canada. RCW

 

Natural Gas Infrastructure Constraints

During the last few years, inadequate infrastructure to transport natural gas has at times affected the ability of natural-gas-fired plants to get the fuel they need to perform. This energy-security risk has become a pressing concern in New England, considering the major role natural-gas-fired generation plays in keeping the lights on and setting prices for wholesale electricity.

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The performance of the largest and most flexible sector of generators is weakened by insufficient pipeline and storage capacity

natural gas dependency

New England Has Benefited from Natural-Gas-Fired-Generation

In 2000, natural gas fueled just 15% of the region’s electricity. Since then, it has become the dominant fuel used to produce electricity in New England, displacing higher emitting and less economic power plants. With supply from the nearby Marcellus Shale and relatively low construction costs, natural gas continues to be a top fuel choice for new generators. These new power plants are not only some of the most efficient in the country, but in the world. (Learn about the resource mix.)

The shift to natural gas has benefited the region in many ways:

  • The use of relatively clean-burning natural gas, along with emission controls on fossil-fuel-burning generators and other factors, has contributed to a significant long-term decline in regional air emissions.
  • Natural gas prices, typically lower than other fossil fuels for most of the year, have helped the annual energy market value remain well below its high of $12 billion in 2008 and reach record lows in 2016. Fuel costs are typically one of the major inputs in the wholesale price of electricity. Follow the effects of natural gas in the ISO’s monthly analyses of electricity prices and demand.
  • The ability of many natural-gas-fired plants to change output quickly helps to balance the variations in output from increasing levels of intermittent power resources that rely on the wind and sun.

Access to Fuel Has Become Uncertain during Winter

During many recent winters, regional gas utilities have been using most, if not all, of the capacity on the pipelines that carry natural gas into New England. This is particularly true during very cold periods when heating demand is high. This leaves very little to no pipeline capacity for electric generators, which creates a number of concerns for the power system:

  • Reliability risks: Because such a large and still growing quantity of the region’s generating capacity uses natural gas (learn more at Key Stats—Resource Mix), its unavailability can pose a serious risk to the reliable supply of electricity. This is particularly true when non-gas-fired resources are also unavailable, for example, due to:
    • Mechanical problems for some of the region’s aging non-gas-fired generators
    • Reduced imports from neighboring grids dealing with the same weather
    • Delayed oil and LNG deliveries
    • Unfavorable weather conditions for solar and wind resources

    Energy-security risk is not as apparent during mild winters, when heating demand for natural gas is lower and there’s more natural gas available for generators. However, New England winters are unpredictable. On the coldest days, fuel constraints could sideline thousands of megawatts of natural-gas-fired generation. When that happens, system operators turn to power plants with stored fuel—coal, oil, or nuclear—to meet demand. If the region were to experience a “perfect storm” of problems with grid resources, ISO system operators could be forced to use special measures to protect the grid. Those could include asking the public to conserve electricity or, in extreme cases, ordering load shedding (rolling blackouts affecting blocks of customers). This risk is likely to grow unless the region can find ways to offset the loss of more non-gas-fired power resources as they retire.

  • Air emissions: Pipeline constraints can also affect regional air emissions during winter because the ISO has to run higher-emitting generators when gas-fired units can’t access fuel or when the price of natural gas spikes. During the cold spell that spanned the end of 2017 and beginning of 2018, New England’s power system relied heavily on oil generation, and daily carbon dioxide emissions rose to an average of over 220,000 short tons, up from 100,000 short tons per day leading up to the cold snap.
  • Price volatility: Similarly, the price of natural gas tends to spike as temperatures drop and demand for the fuel increases. This has an immediate effect on wholesale electricity prices. For example, natural gas delivery constraints during the 16-day cold spell of 2017–2018 significantly affected energy-market prices. The region’s wholesale energy market was valued at $992 million for the two-week period from December 26 to January 8, compared with $243 million during the same time the prior year. Over the course of the entire winter, the energy market was valued at $2.6 billion, with approximately 38% of that coming during the cold snap. See how prices for wholesale electricity track natural gas.

Wholesale Energy Costs during Winter 2017-2018 Compared to Winter 2016-2017 data

Pipeline Development Hasn’t Kept Pace with Demand

Energy-security risks may be more acute in New England than in most other regions because New England is “at the end of the pipeline" when it comes to natural gas and the other fuels used most often to generate the region’s power. New England has no indigenous fossil fuels and therefore, fuels must be delivered by pipeline, ship, truck, or barge from distant places. Additionally, the natural gas pipeline system within New England is relatively small, and its access to the rest of the North American pipeline network is limited. This also makes the region vulnerable to pipeline interruptions. In regions with a more robust pipeline network, a failure at a single point on the pipeline system typically can be contained to a local area and routed around, but such an outage in New England will likely create significant impacts.

The tremendous growth in natural-gas-fired generating capacity is shown in the graph below. But the natural gas pipelines that deliver low-cost shale gas into the region have not been expanded at a commensurate pace. Further, pipelines are built and sized to serve customers with firm contracts for capacity, typically gas utilities, not electricity generators.

  • Gas utilities commit to the long-term contracts required for incentivizing pipeline development.
  • Generators, on the other hand, typically forego these premium contracts, instead arranging for fuel only as needed and relying on unused pipeline capacity for delivery.

Because generators have no guarantee for when or how long they’ll be called to run—and there’s no practical way for them to store excess pipeline gas or electricity on site—contracting for pipeline capacity only when needed helps natural-gas-fired generators keep their costs as low as possible to maintain competitiveness in the wholesale electricity markets.

While that strategy works for most of the year, on cold days the pipelines are running at or near maximum capacity solely to meet heating demand. During several recent winters, this situation has severely limited the delivery of fuel to much of the region’s power plants, which, in turn, threatened the reliable supply of electricity and drove up wholesale electricity prices and air emissions.

Cumulative new generating capacity

Generators Running on Oil also Raise Energy-Security Concerns

Energy security isn’t just about natural gas. Adequate arrangements for oil delivery are also a concern for both generators that run exclusively on this fuel source and those natural-gas-fired generators that have the ability to switch to oil.

“Dual-fuel technology” that allows generators to switch to oil may be the most cost-effective investment natural-gas-fired generators might take to ensure they can run when pipelines are constrained. However, state restrictions on air emissions may limit their ability to run on oil. Consequently, more natural gas plants may need to turn to LNG in winter when pipeline gas is unavailable or its price spikes.

Will Imported Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) Fill the Gap?

While more natural-gas-fired generators may turn to LNG, several factors can impede generators’ access to LNG when it’s most needed.

  • First, LNG is a global commodity that’s imported to New England by ocean-going tankers, so it must be contracted for months in advance—an option most generators elect not to pursue.
  • Second, the arrival of any spot LNG cargoes depends on global prices and vary from year to year; they also supply the entire Northeast and beyond—not just New England generators.
  • Third, severe weather could prevent the timely arrival of ships.

Contracts for winter deliveries of LNG, as well as the construction of on-site LNG storage, are among the options generators could invest in to satisfy performance requirements in the capacity market.

 

The ISO’s Efforts Have Mitigated the Energy-Security Risk but Will Not Solve the Problem

Addressing the energy-security issue is currently the region’s highest-priority challenge. While the ISO doesn’t have the authority to require generators to make long-term investments in fuel supplies, we have been developing tactics for the past six years to mitigate the fuel-security risk, such as:

  • Developing new situational awareness and forecasting tools for our system operators to confirm fuel availability for natural-gas-fired units
  • Improving communication and coordination with interstate pipeline operators
  • Implementing Winter Reliability Programs that pay demand-response resources to be available and generators to boost winter fuel inventories of oil and LNG or to invest in dual-fuel technology (the ability to switch between different fuels, typically natural gas and oil)
  • Fine-tuning the energy markets to strengthen resource performance
  • Instituting “pay for performance” (PFP) enhancements that, starting in 2018, will reward resources that make the investments needed to ensure performance during periods of system stress, such as by contracting for adequate fuel, while resources that don’t perform will forfeit capacity payments

Although PFP provides an efficient market mechanism to boost performance, it may not address all aspects of the region’s energy-security challenges that emerged after PFP was developed. PFP’s pricing provides a strong real-time signal for resources to prepare for tight operating conditions and to perform when the system is in an “at-risk” situation, but it’s not a forecasting tool—it does not signal the risk in advance. Given that the region’s fuel infrastructure can become tightly constrained and fuel logistics complex during harsh winter conditions resource owners need advance notice of energy constraints to that they have time to make fuel delivery or other preparations. This will become more critical as fuel constraints continue to tighten with resource retirements and progressively stricter emission limitations on the power industry.

So in a nutshell you want government paid for infrastructure, the ability to flare, all which may be stranded infrastructure if we kill Putin and peace breaks out in Europe. 😳

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2 hours ago, Boat said:

So in a nutshell you want government paid for infrastructure, the ability to flare, all which may be stranded infrastructure if we kill Putin and peace breaks out in Europe. 😳

I want freedom of industries to compete for customers and have freedom of production on all American land that is appropriate for that use. That means all national forests and Bureau of Land Management land. It does not include National Parks and Monuments which are not really monuments, but are vast areas closed, for no real reason. The American people own all the land in those areas. The government leaders come and go. 

Stranded infrastructure mainly occurs when pipelines, electrical lines, etc. are not allowed to be built for the common good. Alaskan land being "protected" is rarely visited by anyone and there is no good reason to not develop it. 

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13 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

I want freedom of industries to compete for customers and have freedom of production on all American land that is appropriate for that use. That means all national forests and Bureau of Land Management land. It does not include National Parks and Monuments which are not really monuments, but are vast areas closed, for no real reason. The American people own all the land in those areas. The government leaders come and go. 

Stranded infrastructure mainly occurs when pipelines, electrical lines, etc. are not allowed to be built for the common good. Alaskan land being "protected" is rarely visited by anyone and there is no good reason to not develop it. 

So now you wanna kill people faster than you already do. These cancer clusters around FF areas could easily be avoided. Unfortunately the FF industry has a very poor track record. I will agree they should drill in Alaska and national lands but only if needed for our own consumption to be energy independant. Our oil is not needed to run China. But no drilling is ok around humans and no flaring/wasting gas. 
And quit saying freedom to do stuff. You ain’t free to do a Coup. Your not free to be not investigated and jailed like those on film. When you break the law you forfeit your freedoms. Your boys broke the constitution and want to do it again. We’ll, a few of them. I guess time will tell eh?

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

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3 hours ago, Boat said:

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

We need all the natural gas we can produce, first for ourselves and second for our allies. We also need export income and fuel to support our industries. Oil and natural gas are found together. More is better, we have it and the world has it. 

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians.

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On 1/26/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

Natural gas is largely ignored on our blogs and topics. It is, I assume, because most people prefer the fuels and vehicles that are covered by the mainstream media. I will be giving the alternative stories that are ignored. I have been studying energy and natural gas for nine years and have thousands of links regarding natural gas, natural gas vehicles, natural gas tanks, converting existing vehicles to natural gas, home fueling systems etc. 

I am not an engineer or knowledgeable about the complexity of how to build these systems myself. Any good mechanic could learn how to convert ICE vehicles to dual use fuel, whether it is natural gas and gasoline or some other fuel. Trifuel systems are sometimes used also, especially in Brazil where ethanol is well priced, natural gas and gasoline are the other choices there. 

Natural gas vehicles are often chosen because natural gas is clean. I currently use it in a heating stove in my living room and it can heat the whole house in cold weather. I have a whole house natural gas system which we only use when we go to bed as I don't want an open flame and don't need to keep the whole house as warm at night. I live in an average latitude just north of St. Louis about 60 miles. 

Vehicles that use natural gas range from huge ships to smaller ships, ferries, large trucks, pickup trucks, buses, cars, motor scooters, and other small vehicles. Some locomotives have used natural gas, and it could be used to fuel them.

Natural gas comes in three main forms: Piped natural gas which can range from huge pipelines that travel thousands of miles and feed into pipes for businesses and homes. Compressed natural gas (CNG) which can come from a normal house and be pumped directly into any natural gas vehicle with a special compressor, or a larger pump which can be used in a service station or trucking company. The range of installations runs the gamut of small to very large. The third form of natural gas is liquified natural gas (LNG). It requires special equipment of various scales that range from large installations that cost billions of dollars to service stations that operate much like a normal gasoline station but require the compression tanks and special nozzles etc. The natural gas can be piped or it can delivered by tanker trucks just as gasoline is delivered. 

From this point I will start entering many links and pictures over time. I make no money from my work, and am active on many blogs so it will take time to add a significant number of good links. Thanks to anyone who follows my information. 

I don’t ignore gas. In the hands of Republican Texan lawmakers gas can be quite deadly. Remember our storm? Do you pay $8 for gas that’s worth $3? Gas just isn’t as good as it used to be. To much corruption and manipulation. 
You can have multiple pipelines exporting gas to Mexico and talk about how Biden is wrong on gas because he won’t push more drilling. How about the US gets cheap gas or no nat gas gets exported. You crooked fellers wouldn’t like that idea. You crooked fellers just wanna steal from the poor. Just like the oil from Canada the US doesn't need. It’s all a bunch of @# for decades. Lol Even Bloomberg says we need the drilling and the pipelines. Never mentioning we’re energy independent and don’t need squat. The Public needs new politicians. 

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