Biden threatens Putin " If . . . . no longer a Nord Stream 2 . . bring end to it"

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On 2/10/2022 at 9:04 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

And there in lies the danger NotSoSmart. Above all things Putin has pride,arrogance and power. If indeed Ukraine was able to cripple Russian armor that embarrassment would drive a air power strike of untold carnage. 

Events of this nature also known as the fog of war happen with startling speed. Technology has increased at a rate that surpasses man's comprehension.

If you are nieve enough to underestimate Putin's pride/arrogance and ambition...You only need to comprehend how much energy wealth he has accumulated in the past 10 yrs.

The European energy market is his oyster...and a fundamental foundation to the reformation of the USSR. It is at his fingertips.

Now back to soft power, computer hacks and social justice. Things you can comprehend.

The Russian have rockets which fires up to 45 km. Not single shots series of 16. Javelins are completely overestimated. Ukraine is not Afghanistan. Its flat and those Javelin fly about 4.5 km.

And you don‘t hit any Jets.

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42 minutes ago, Starschy said:

The Russian have rockets which fires up to 45 km. Not single shots series of 16. Javelins are completely overestimated. Ukraine is not Afghanistan. Its flat and those Javelin fly about 4.5 km.

And you don‘t hit any Jets.

There's definitely better anti-tank weapons than the Javelin, but it's practically ideal for a force that is short on organization, and heavy equipment that is going to be fighting as an insurgency, for the following reasons:

• .  They are small enough to be reasonably carried by one person (although heavy), and because they are short, they can be hidden a lot of places a larger launcher can't
• They use a 'soft launch' 2 stage propellant that has no backblast area - that means they can be used from inside of small hidden space,or while lying down.
• After launch they are self guiding (heat seeking) so the person who shot it can immediately take cover, or start running away
• They have integrated night vision sights so you can attack in the dark
• It utilizes a 'popup' attack where the penetration and detonation comes from above.  This means not only that it can attack a lot of different types of vehicles, but it's also really effective at blowing up buildings, since they tend to respond very poorly from explosions that come from the top, but underneath the roof. It can also do direct fire if that is desired. 

All in all,  if you have a poorly armed, poorly organized resistance, they are pretty much perfect if you have a little time ahead of time to train people how to use them.  You can hide in the woods somewhere, wait til after dark, aim, shoot and run,  with a reasonable expectation that whatever they pointed at will have a bad day, and a fairly low risk of getting caught if used correctly.   

The idea isn't that this will be some wonder weapon that will stop a Russian invasion in it's tracks - it's that it will enable an effective resistance that makes any invasion and occupation very expensive in lives and equipment.  

Edited February 11, 2022 by Eric Gagen

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1 hour ago, Starschy said:

The Russian have rockets which fires up to 45 km. Not single shots series of 16. Javelins are completely overestimated. Ukraine is not Afghanistan. Its flat and those Javelin fly about 4.5 km.

And you don‘t hit any Jets.

While I do have great and well warranted suspicion as to our own socialistadministration, if Putin does invade it is my opinion it will be disaster of world wide implications. 

Hi tech relies on hi-tech to operate, two scared to death citizens hidden in a field are lethal. There fear drives them to lash out with no regards to the consequences.

Your right there is no place to hide, Europeans are by far different than others...they stand up and are slaughtered...Read history

 

 

 

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Well if we talk about sanctions

Overall, Western sanctions “meant Russia’s annual growth from 2014 to 2018 fell short of prior expectations by 0.2 percent,” according to a 2019 IMF report cited by the Financial Times. This means “they had a much smaller impact than, for instance, the decline in the oil price during the same period.”

 

https://www.ft.com/content/8f9a37aa-88c8-46f2-8eca-8cc4e2e61e6f

Edited February 12, 2022 by Tomasz

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9 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The sad part would be he is no longer cognitive of his own words. Sanders&Co are using Biden as a mouth piece and bludgeoning board for there agendas.

Take very close notice as to how they operate, young children or the elderly. Watching Pelosi speak runs in the same vein as Biden. Just a small amount of pushback and it's senile anger/frustration.

Below what do you see? A enthusiastic engaged politician?

 

 

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These assclowns only have another eleven months to fuck things up! Then dig a hole and fill it with Democrats.

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our good friend @0R0 has just declared WWIII. 

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20 hours ago, kshithij Sharma said:

As far as I see, it is USA who is pressurising EU to take its LNG exports by scuttling Russian gas. I see USA LNG rising rapidly due to larg number of shale field development which USA will want to export. By 2025, I think USA will have enough LNG capacity addition to replace all the lost gas through Poland pipeline

Does the fate of the Ukrainian people make any difference to you Kshithij? It seems that you find them not worth your consideration? Where do you live? 

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12 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Does the fate of the Ukrainian people make any difference to you Kshithij? It seems that you find them not worth your consideration? Where do you live? 

How does that come here? It is Russian gas and Ukraine has no contribution towards it. If you are asking if I don't care for people who expect freebies from others, why would I? It makes no commercial sense for Russia to pass the gas via Ukraine at a hefty commission if it can get it done by Nord Stream for free. If it is about charity, then there are more countries like Somalia, Mozambique, Congo etc who need freebies more. 

[RichieRich216 + 454]

Putin's going to do what he wants; the only thing that might stop him going in is major concessions of some sort.

I found it quite interesting that his mega yacht, which was in Germany for upgrades and repairs, abruptly left this past Wednesday with upgrades and repairs unfinished.

Lastly, Under Obama / Biden, he walked into Crimea without firing a shot. The Obama was at least mentally strong just had no balls.

Putin is going in; it's a foregone conclusion; he wants Ukraine badly because of their freedom of election and business; having people closely aligned in many ways to the Russian people is a significant threat to Putin.

Stupidity on the part of brain dead Biden who can not even walk without his wife leading him; having lists of notes when speaking since his memory has long left him shows that he is not running the U.S. But all leftovers from the Obama administration. He is no more than a valuable puppet of those who put him in office. 

For the next eleven months, we will have to put up with this bullshit until we can make him a lame-duck President on top of his being brain dead.

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On 2/8/2022 at 1:27 PM, bobo88 said:

 

You need to Google MiG-31 and SU-57 Fighters.  

Putin moved two Aircraft Carriers into Black Sea.

This "minor incursion" will never ever escalate to an air war.  The eastern most provence are 75% pro Russia.

How many F-35s does Ukraine have access to ? Maybe 3 ?  Who is gonna fly these loaners ? Is Ukraine going to pay for them after Russia takes them out ($80 million X 3 = $240 Million) 

I'm telling you Annex of Eastern Ukraine is wrapped up in 3-4 days if Putin really wants it. I think he does.  Putin is in the driver seat. Russia will get what it wants whether it is NATO assurances or Eastern Ukraine.  That's just my opinion.  

The majority of the population in the region are pro Russia.

I didn't know Ukraine had nukes ?  LOL !

Putin is not going to kowtow to Joe. Putin smells his weakness.

   USSR had to use

bobo,  Russia has exactly 1 count them 1 flyable combat ready Su-57.  When it is out numbered 122 to 1 by F-22's those are poor odds. Your Mig 31's had last production run in 1994 and they built only 500 total. . Air frames have 2500+ hours on them that is a tired airframe with high maintenance to flight hours.   Hanger Queens. . Notice Russian pilots average 90 hours per month. You need 200 to maintain competence.  We know from our Israeli friends how well  the Russian tank force  (mostly T-72's, how many NEW tanks has Russia built since 1990 and is Put-Put dumb enough to gamble them all in one place.) stand up against A-10's or Tornados much less Rafaels, Eurofighters and Grippens   with cluster bombs. .   You will need a lot of body bags.  Your two carriers are  no threat as long as they have to use the Naval variant of the Mig 29 against the Harry Truman  or the submarines Greece bought from Germany Italy.   The Reagan is on its way to the Suez Canal from Singapore.  You don't have sufficient screening forces for them to defend  themselves and attack something.  Then there is the vulnerability of Russia's rail system.   Armies gotta have bullets beans and toilet paper. Remember supply problems in Afghanistan?  Ukraine will go for your supply trucks  just like they did against the Nazis. Tanks with no fuel are sitting ducks.   Fuel trucks are target 1.   USSR had to use about 50% of its armor escorting fuel trucks in Afghanisatn.  You also have to move food to your local people as well; people gotta eat.   You don't have access to your oil and gas markets or other export markets.  Russia's a big country,  how are you going to feed any one if your electric grid doesn't work, your railroads are on manual signals and you are cut off from the internet?  24th Air Force can shut Russia down  and never leave San Antonio.  Swarms of little drones  that don't show up on radar doing kamikaze attacks on the fuel trucks which burn quickly. The  drones are already in Poland.   433rd Airlift Wing sent them out last week.

The way you boast you don't know any more about care and feeding an army than Nicholas  II.  If Put-Put is dumb enough to use nukes then will be no Russia.  Having Belorussia for an ally is like Germany having Italy as as an ally.  Remember what happened to the Italian 8thb Army when they had the 6th Army's flank at Stalingrad.

Edited February 12, 2022 by nsdp
correct errrors.

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8 hours ago, kshithij Sharma said:

How does that come here? It is Russian gas and Ukraine has no contribution towards it. If you are asking if I don't care for people who expect freebies from others, why would I? It makes no commercial sense for Russia to pass the gas via Ukraine at a hefty commission if it can get it done by Nord Stream for free. If it is about charity, then there are more countries like Somalia, Mozambique, Congo etc who need freebies more. 

It is about freedom also. Do you value it, or not?

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On 2/11/2022 at 5:48 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

While I do have great and well warranted suspicion as to our own socialistadministration, if Putin does invade it is my opinion it will be disaster of world wide implications. 

Hi tech relies on hi-tech to operate, two scared to death citizens hidden in a field are lethal. There fear drives them to lash out with no regards to the consequences.

Your right there is no place to hide, Europeans are by far different than others...they stand up and are slaughtered...Read history

 

 

 

Ask the Russians about casualties to the German Volksgrenadiers with Panzer fausts.   Tanks have very poor vision unless the commander has his his hatch open and his head out.    Then he is an easy target for Barret sniper rifles at 2.5 km.

How about the rest off Russia's border that is unprotected while Put+Put does this stupid stuff?

On 2/11/2022 at 6:24 PM, Tomasz said:

Well if we talk about sanctions

Overall, Western sanctions “meant Russia’s annual growth from 2014 to 2018 fell short of prior expectations by 0.2 percent,” according to a 2019 IMF report cited by the Financial Times. This means “they had a much smaller impact than, for instance, the decline in the oil price during the same period.”

 

https://www.ft.com/content/8f9a37aa-88c8-46f2-8eca-8cc4e2e61e6f

Take a look at what serious sanctions did to Southern Rhodesia and then  South Africa before you display your ignorance.  That was a whole level above what Iran and Iraq had to deal with.   Russia under the same level of sanctions as South Africa was under will become Xi's lapdog.   Better start practicing your Chinese.

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On 2/11/2022 at 5:11 PM, Eric Gagen said:

There's definitely better anti-tank weapons than the Javelin, but it's practically ideal for a force that is short on organization, and heavy equipment that is going to be fighting as an insurgency, for the following reasons:

• .  They are small enough to be reasonably carried by one person (although heavy), and because they are short, they can be hidden a lot of places a larger launcher can't
• They use a 'soft launch' 2 stage propellant that has no backblast area - that means they can be used from inside of small hidden space,or while lying down.
• After launch they are self guiding (heat seeking) so the person who shot it can immediately take cover, or start running away
• They have integrated night vision sights so you can attack in the dark
• It utilizes a 'popup' attack where the penetration and detonation comes from above.  This means not only that it can attack a lot of different types of vehicles, but it's also really effective at blowing up buildings, since they tend to respond very poorly from explosions that come from the top, but underneath the roof. It can also do direct fire if that is desired. 

All in all,  if you have a poorly armed, poorly organized resistance, they are pretty much perfect if you have a little time ahead of time to train people how to use them.  You can hide in the woods somewhere, wait til after dark, aim, shoot and run,  with a reasonable expectation that whatever they pointed at will have a bad day, and a fairly low risk of getting caught if used correctly.   

The idea isn't that this will be some wonder weapon that will stop a Russian invasion in it's tracks - it's that it will enable an effective resistance that makes any invasion and occupation very expensive in lives and equipment.  

You missed one.  Javelins play hell with fuel trucks.  And the tanks Russia does deploy are no better than what they had in Afghanistan.  Inteeeersting quote on the T-14 "

On 10 August, 2021, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko said that the Russian Armed Forces would receive 20 T-14 Armata tanks by the end of 2021.^[39] On August 23, a Rostec official said that the company had shipped an experimental batch of T-14 tanks to Russian Armed Forces.^[40]" 

^{Oh boy, going to war in an experimenttal tank. What could go wrong?  sort of like one operational Su-57. Wonder what the training level of the infantry is like. We know flight times for pilots are inadequate.  French army  1940?   How much of their ammo reserves did they shoot up with their maneuvers with the Belorussians?}

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by nsdp

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On 2/8/2022 at 5:23 PM, bobo88 said:

Two reports say Biden game plan to fight Russian moves into Ukraine is to fund a Ukraine insurgency.

The only problem is the east and south are a majority pro Russia.  It will never get off the ground in my opinion.

Part of the country being proRussian isn't going to do Put=Put much good.   I will bet on the Ukrainians  as having 25% of the populace being pro Saigon didn't do any good in the 1960's.  The Russians in the Ukraine already are dumb as they use cell phones that the NSA listens to and records the location. They have already put a bullseye on their back just like tthe MAGA crowd here.    If the US feeds the intel  to Kyiv it will be like what the feds are doing now to track peoples cell phones in on 1/6 and then track down all their friends who contributed money.  Cell phone tells them  where you are and they know where you go so its easy to bust the money bags for Jan 6.

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15 hours ago, nsdp said:

bobo,  Russia has exactly 1 count them 1 flyable combat ready Su-57.  When it is out numbered 122 to 1 by F-22's those are poor odds. Your Mig 31's had last production run in 1994 and they built only 500 total. . Air frames have 2500+ hours on them that is a tired airframe with high maintenance to flight hours.   Hanger Queens. . Notice Russian pilots average 90 hours per month. You need 200 to maintain competence.  We know from our Israeli friends how well  the Russian tank force  (mostly T-72's, how many NEW tanks has Russia built since 1990 and is Put-Put dumb enough to gamble them all in one place.) stand up against A-10's or Tornados much less Rafaels, Eurofighters and Grippens   with cluster bombs. .   You will need a lot of body bags.  Your two carriers are  no threat as long as they have to use the Naval variant of the Mig 29 against the Harry Truman  or the submarines Greece bought from Germany Italy.   The Reagan is on its way to the Suez Canal from Singapore.  You don't have sufficient screening forces for them to defend  themselves and attack something.  Then there is the vulnerability of Russia's rail system.   Armies gotta have bullets beans and toilet paper. Remember supply problems in Afghanistan?  Ukraine will go for your supply trucks  just like they did against the Nazis. Tanks with no fuel are sitting ducks.   Fuel trucks are target 1.   USSR had to use about 50% of its armor escorting fuel trucks in Afghanisatn.  You also have to move food to your local people as well; people gotta eat.   You don't have access to your oil and gas markets or other export markets.  Russia's a big country,  how are you going to feed any one if your electric grid doesn't work, your railroads are on manual signals and you are cut off from the internet?  24th Air Force can shut Russia down  and never leave San Antonio.  Swarms of little drones  that don't show up on radar doing kamikaze attacks on the fuel trucks which burn quickly. The  drones are already in Poland.   433rd Airlift Wing sent them out last week.

The way you boast you don't know any more about care and feeding an army than Nicholas  II.  If Put-Put is dumb enough to use nukes then will be no Russia.  Having Belorussia for an ally is like Germany having Italy as as an ally.  Remember what happened to the Italian 8thb Army when they had the 6th Army's flank at Stalingrad 

Russia has deployed SU-25s to Belarus and bases in western Russia.

So you are saying United States Drones, A-10 Aircraft , the Reagan , the Harry Truman etc , etc. are going to attack Russian troops and infrastructure.

I thought the Russians were going after Ukraine Eastern obasts not the New Jersey shore.  You must work in the Biden Administration.  

It looks like "Brandon" really does want to start WW III.   A good diversion away from Hunter's Burisma deals. $1 million/year which was ended right after Joe left office.

Maybe I missed it ? Did NATO admit Ukraine as it's newest NATO member today ?

How many hours a month do the Ukraine pilots average ?

You do realize Ukraine's oblasts in the eastern 1/3 of Ukraine are all a majority pro Russia.  A few are over 75% pro Russia. It helps. A lot.  It won't stop the stingers but will diminish them. 

The war takes place in the east .  The Pentagon has already said that Ukraine was going to use an insurgency war plan in the east.  Those stingers will do some damage but that's not going to stop the Russians who have the help of local Separatist.

Going to be tuff fighting a Three Front war. 

Ukraine is going after Russian railroads ?  No.  Are you nuts ?  Ukraine is going to go after Russian power grid ?   You really are nuts. If they start bombing in the Russian Mother land the gloves will come off and Ukraine will cease to exist.  

If U.S. goes after Russian infrastructure that is an Act of War by U.S. against Russia.  Look out. WW lll .

U.S. likely will use it's technology to jam Russian operations but only inside Ukraine.  

Believe it not but in my opinion the major NATO members could care less about Ukraine losing a few oblasts of farmland.  "A minor incursion is acceptable". Just ask Brandon .

I have no interest in the outcome of this skirmish.  

The stingers will slow the Russian forces but will not stop them.  This won't take long.  

Just interested in how it affects the price of oil, natural gas, wheat.

 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by bobo88

[RichieRich216 + 454]

The United States should provide Ukraine with anti-tank Cluster Bombs and Battlefield Nukes to draw a line if Russia crosses its border.

Old Vladimir will get the message immediately!

[bobo88 + 58]

21 hours ago, nsdp said:

Part of the country being proRussian isn't going to do Put=Put much good.   I will bet on the Ukrainians  as having 25% of the populace being pro Saigon didn't do any good in the 1960's.  The Russians in the Ukraine already are dumb as they use cell phones that the NSA listens to and records the location. They have already put a bullseye on their back just like tthe MAGA crowd here.    If the US feeds the intel  to Kyiv it will be like what the feds are doing now to track peoples cell phones in on 1/6 and then track down all their friends who contributed money.  Cell phone tells them  where you are and they know where you go so its easy to bust the money bags for Jan 6.

All eastern Ukraine oblasts are each at least over 50% pro Russian . A few great than 75%.  That's called a majority.

Saigon's 25% is a minority.

A majority does and will make a difference in eastern Ukraine. 

I think we are talking two different confrontations here. 

Lets Agree to disagree.

German news paper said the U.S. intelligence told the NATO meeting it all starts this Wednesday.

We'll see. 

Edited February 13, 2022 by bobo88

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11 hours ago, RichieRich216 said:

Putin's going to do what he wants; the only thing that might stop him going in is major concessions of some sort.

I found it quite interesting that his mega yacht, which was in Germany for upgrades and repairs, abruptly left this past Wednesday with upgrades and repairs unfinished.

Lastly, Under Obama / Biden, he walked into Crimea without firing a shot. The Obama was at least mentally strong just had no balls.

Putin is going in; it's a foregone conclusion; he wants Ukraine badly because of their freedom of election and business; having people closely aligned in many ways to the Russian people is a significant threat to Putin.

Stupidity on the part of brain dead Biden who can not even walk without his wife leading him; having lists of notes when speaking since his memory has long left him shows that he is not running the U.S. But all leftovers from the Obama administration. He is no more than a valuable puppet of those who put him in office. 

For the next eleven months, we will have to put up with this bullshit until we can make him a lame-duck President on top of his being brain dead.

There are already proposals to impeach Biden. They should be instituted shortly after the next election. He is an easy target for impeachment. The only thing protecting him might be RINOS that survive and the mainstream media power. I don't know how much they have left after the lies of the last few years. They are considered to be unreliable by most. 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-dips-second-lowest-record.aspx

[Boat + 1,323]

12 hours ago, RichieRich216 said:

Putin's going to do what he wants; the only thing that might stop him going in is major concessions of some sort.

I found it quite interesting that his mega yacht, which was in Germany for upgrades and repairs, abruptly left this past Wednesday with upgrades and repairs unfinished.

Lastly, Under Obama / Biden, he walked into Crimea without firing a shot. The Obama was at least mentally strong just had no balls.

Putin is going in; it's a foregone conclusion; he wants Ukraine badly because of their freedom of election and business; having people closely aligned in many ways to the Russian people is a significant threat to Putin.

Stupidity on the part of brain dead Biden who can not even walk without his wife leading him; having lists of notes when speaking since his memory has long left him shows that he is not running the U.S. But all leftovers from the Obama administration. He is no more than a valuable puppet of those who put him in office. 

For the next eleven months, we will have to put up with this bullshit until we can make him a lame-duck President on top of his being brain dead.

So you gonna bake patriot cakes to hide the freedom files to break Trump out of jail? I suppose you’ll run McConnall as a replacement. I hear Pence is looking for a VP job without coup powers. Flushing documents on Jan 6, really? Lol Cheeto is a moral champion.

[Boat + 1,323]

On 2/8/2022 at 1:27 PM, bobo88 said:

 

You need to Google MiG-31 and SU-57 Fighters.  

Putin moved two Aircraft Carriers into Black Sea.

This "minor incursion" will never ever escalate to an air war.  The eastern most provence are 75% pro Russia.

How many F-35s does Ukraine have access to ? Maybe 3 ?  Who is gonna fly these loaners ? Is Ukraine going to pay for them after Russia takes them out ($80 million X 3 = $240 Million) 

I'm telling you Annex of Eastern Ukraine is wrapped up in 3-4 days if Putin really wants it. I think he does.  Putin is in the driver seat. Russia will get what it wants whether it is NATO assurances or Eastern Ukraine.  That's just my opinion.  

The majority of the population in the region are pro Russia.

I didn't know Ukraine had nukes ?  LOL !

Putin is not going to kowtow to Joe. Putin smells his weakness.

 

Or……..NATO gets involved and hundreds of F-35’s are available. They have a 1300 mile range along with many missiles the US has been putting in Europe because of Putins mischief in Syria etc. 

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2 hours ago, bobo88 said:

 

You do realize Ukraine's oblasts in the eastern 1/3 of Ukraine are all a majority pro Russia.  A few are over 75% pro Russia. It helps. 

 

It doesn't seem like that's true since 2014:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-city-close-to-the-ukraine-russia-border-has-been-shaped-by-war

in other words, ukrainian nationalism seems to have spiked up

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On 2/11/2022 at 9:29 PM, bobo88 said:

You are correct.  Drinking is a big problem in the Russian army.  Moral is low.  But they will fight.  

illicit drugs are a big problem in the Amurcun army. added to this are the extra genders. morale is low.

[frankfurter + 562]

6 hours ago, ronwagn said:

It is about freedom also. Do you value it, or not?

freedom... which is why many Ukraine regions wish to join Russia. They know how Kiev supported the Nazis, and how that doctrine persists. The USA supports Kiev.  get the picture? 

[frankfurter + 562]

Amurcuns are cowards. Like dogs barking behind a fence.

bark, bark, Russian aggression. bark bark, Russian invasion imminent. bark, bark, NATO is ready to fight.  bark, bark, Bidet barks he will stop NS2. bark, bark, from behind the NATO fence.

well, if Amurcuns want to stop Russian aggression, why don't you stop barking and get on with the job?  Russia is not Iraq, not Libya, not Yugoslavia, not Vietnam, not Korea. so let's see the great Amurcun war machine in action, against a real capable enemy.  for once.

I shall be interested to see how drugged-up dumbed-down amurcuns will react when LA and NYC are vapourised.

'for once' will be 'just once'. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Boat said:

Or……..NATO gets involved and hundreds of F-35’s are available. They have a 1300 mile range along with many missiles the US has been putting in Europe because of Putins mischief in Syria etc. 

Great plan if you want to start World War III and cut off oil and gas flow from Russia to Europe creating Super Economic Depression that is worse than anything Europe has ever seen.

Sounds like a plan.  Let's go for it.

Ukraine is a corrupt nation that has paid BIDEN family millions and squashed an investigation into Hunter.

Europe could care less if Putin takes the pro Russian oblasts in the eastern Ukraine. If Europe doesn't care why should I.S. ?

This is not 1980. Your Democrat Party is living in the past.  There is an economic war going on and the U.S. is losing.  Big time.  I have to hand it to you the U.S. is the most "Woke" country with a very "woke" military.  LOL.

Biden administration didn't care either until that knucklehead said on National TV that " .  .  .  a minor incursion was acceptable, then we decide what to do"

Why is your U.S wasting  time on Ukraine.  Ukraine is a corrupt  country that is one step up from a third world country.

Is it a diversion from this current administration first year Presidency.

Reminds me of Clinton in 1998 when he blew up a baby formula and malaria drug factory with 14 Minuteman missiles (did he really need 14) to distract from his troubles.  Now Biden positions nuclear capable bombers in Britain. Really ?  The guy is nuts. 

NATO gets involved. Stupid .  

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2022 by bobo88