Putin wants Ukraine Natural Gas ? Water restarted to CRIMEA ?

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On 3/4/2022 at 7:07 PM, RichieRich216 said:

You are obviously a Communist, The USSR was, in fact, what President Regan called an EVIL EMPIRE, the people suffered under that regime.
 

As far as the best weapons, I remind you of the fact of the SR 71, F117 more then Twenty years hidden before acknowledged! 
 

You think DARPA and the secret projects and completed weapons not revealed even ow are not available to any United States President? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid!

I am an anarchist. Communism is not my favorite ideology, but I understand it, because I grew up in USSR.  You don't, being a product of Culture War on Communism paid for by the CIA, like most Americans are. For you, it is nothing but a swear word. You do not even notice how you live in a tyranny much worse than USSR ever was. Because the citizens of USSR never had any illusions about the government ever telling them the truth. Moreover, it turns out that they actually were, a lot of times! When it was something about the West. Never about the issues of domestic significance.

Acknowledged is one thing, really held secret with any degree of success, another. Are you claiming nobody really knew about those?

There are some things, but they are well known, at least at the level of a rumor. Say, the X-37 space plane. You do realize it is a space bomber, right? Boeing officially denies it, but who are they fooling?

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11 minutes ago, kshithij Sharma said:

The crude oil being pumped from the ground in liquid form is needed for domestic consumption. Venezuela is not very rich in liquid crude reserves and hence only extracts liquid fuel for self consumption. All the exports are blends with its tar sands and blending fuel imported from Iran, India, Russia etc.

Maduro is not some junky to seek vacationing locations. People who go for long vacations and aim for pleasures are generally corrupt minded. Maduro is determined and disciplined. Just like many strong leaders such as Xi Jinping, Putin, Narendra Modi etc who rose up from party cadres on the basis of merit don't yearn for vacation spots and luxuries. Also, the 500000 Venezuelans in USA are anti-revolutionary European racists who tried to overthrow Hugo Chavez. When they failed, they went into exile to USA. Maduro considers these exiles as traitors who are not welcome

Russia has a great resource left over from USSR internationalism, which is underused. Supposedly considered least racist and most honest white people in whole 3rd world. The 1st world never considered the Russians (or Ukrainians) equals, too, Hence, the 2nd world. It is still around!

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29 minutes ago, notsonice said:

$100 oil......Maduro will sell his soul to be able to pump all the oil he can...unless you think Russia needs to import Venezuelan crude

$100 oil is not really helpful if USA tries to use oil trade to send in their agents and spies under the garb of private companies and consultants. It will be akin to eating delicious food which has been mixed with poison. 

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US coordinating Russian oil embrago, may act unilaterally:

“We are now in very active discussions with our European partners about banning the import of Russian oil to our countries, while of course at the same time maintaining a steady global supply of oil,” Blinken said.

The US wanted a coordinated response with its partners but Blinken added: “I’m not going to rule out taking action one way or another irrespective of what they do.”

Restrictions on Russian oil would be a big step up in the west’s response to Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine with potentially serious ramifications for the global economy. It would also mark an about-turn by the White House, which had rejected bipartisan calls to ban Russian oil imports to the US, saying an embargo would limit global supply and raise prices for consumers.

https://www.ft.com/content/5f08826e-55ca-4e5b-a72c-52d034278576

 

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Russian oil .........Peak oil already happened in  Russia, Putin made sure of it 2 weeks ago

Edited March 6, 2022 by notsonice

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6 minutes ago, kshithij Sharma said:

$100 oil is not really helpful if USA tries to use oil trade to send in their agents and spies under the garb of private companies and consultants. It will be akin to eating delicious food which has been mixed with poison. 

 USA tries to use oil trade to send in their agents and spies under the garb of private companies??????....ha ha ha yes all Americans are agents and spies....right now I turned on your camera and I am spying on you?????........ha ha ha ha ha .

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4 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Russia has a great resource left over from USSR internationalism, which is underused. Supposedly considered least racist and most honest white people in whole 3rd world. The 1st world never considered the Russians (or Ukrainians) equals, too, Hence, the 2nd world. It is still around!

Yes, NATO is now afraid that Russian resource will herald a new world order as the resources of Russia and its allies like China, Central Asian countries, India, Venezuela outmatch that of NATO in minerals, fossil fuel as well as population.

Slavic people remained more honest than Western European countries. Western Europe was more or less controlled by the Pope who still reigns as a defacto Roman Emperor using propaganda and absolute authority of truth with the Church. Due to separation of churhc from the state, this authority of the church required constant intrigues and hence developed a culture of treachery. Even with protestant formation, the base culture remained the same as the pope regularly tried to bring back control. Russia & Slavs did not emphasise religion, were separated from Roman empire after 4th crusade and hence remained honest. In case of Islam, the Caliph was also the head of state and hence there was no need to use intrigues caused by separation of state and clergy. So, it also retained honesty, although with an element of extreme barbarity.

Russia and in general slavs are considered as enemies by the west mainly because of this difference in religion and culture. Even when Russia tried to get into NATO, it was rebuffed without proper reasoning, presumably because of the difference in religion and deep rooted hatred.

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9 minutes ago, notsonice said:

 USA tries to use oil trade to send in their agents and spies under the garb of private companies??????....ha ha ha yes all Americans are agents and spies....right now I turned on your camera and I am spying on you?????........ha ha ha ha ha .

All of USA's private companies are born out of state funds, leases and grants. Yet for some strange reason, they are called private companies which amounts to socialising the cost while privatising profits. Only a fool would consider American private companies as private. If anything, such blatant misrepresentation and arbitrary procedures to shift responsibility and blame only creates greater sense of suspicion

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3 hours ago, surrept33 said:

do you believe in these allegations of US based WMD in Ukraine?

 

from Gennady Zyuganov, leader of the Communist Party of Russia:

The power in Ukraine was in the hands of the Nazi-Bandera pack, which does not allow anyone to raise their heads. Anyone who objected to them, they either persecuted, or punished, or simply exterminated. Moreover, the Americans forced Zelenskyy to sell the land.

And, at the same time, fifteen biological laboratories were placed along the perimeter of our borders, where there is not a single Ukrainian employee, only American specialists preparing new bacteria to poison Russia and its people. Five of the same laboratories were located in Georgia and nine in Kazakhstan. Therefore, it is no coincidence that during the military-political operation these 15 laboratories in Ukraine were destroyed by the Russian Armed Forces

It looks like Russia has found "evidence" of this. 

I predict Russia will "find" a dirty bomb false flag next

Bold strategy of Putin to falsify the existence of WMDs after the invasion starts. 🤔

I used to think Trump was the king of lies and misinformation. Seems you Russians can take on the king. Putin clearly has the lead in enforcing loyality at the point of a gun. 
NATO can give fighter jets to Poland who gives them to the Ukraine. Next question, they using that 600 billion? Sell a Russian yacht for arms for Ukraine?
So if Venezuela and Iran put oil on the market, will Russia lose their market? It’s reported there seems to be a quiet voluntary set of sanctions going on. 

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EU Aims to Cut Dependence on Russian Gas by Almost 80% This Year

The European Union’s executive arm is mapping out a path to end the bloc’s reliance on Russian gas which could see import needs cut by almost 80% this year, according to two officials with knowledge of the matter.

The commission considers that the EU already has sufficient gas to get through the rest of this winter even in the event of an abrupt disruption of Russian supplies. The bloc’s executive arm will recommend that member states start work now on filling up storage tanks so they’re prepared for next winter.

The commission is set to say that accelerating the Green Deal, the bloc’s sweeping strategy aimed at reaching climate neutrality by 2050, will reduce greenhouse gas emissions, cut reliance on imported fossil fuels and shield the economy from price hikes, according to the official, who asked not to be identified, as discussions on the strategy are private. The proposals may still change before they are adopted.

As part of the clean shift, the EU is currently discussing a set of laws to meet a stricter 2030 goal of cutting greenhouse gases by at least 55% from 1990 levels. Full implementation of the “Fit for 55” rules would cut EU gas consumption this decade by 23%, or an equivalent of 82 billion cubic meters.Tuesday’s plans will add on higher LNG imports and pipeline supplies from outside Russia, more renewable gases, energy savings and a shift to electrification. Together, that will give the EU the potential to effectively replace the 155 billion cubic meters of gas it currently imports from Russia, with 112 bcm this year.

As much as 50 bcm a year will come from new sources of LNG, 10 bcm will come through pipelines from other suppliers and 20 bcm will come from new wind energy capacity which will reduce the demand for gas-fired power stations.The push may mean more ambitious 2030 targets for renewables and energy efficiency. The commission is also set to prioritize work on connecting pipelines on the Iberian peninsula with the rest of Europe and joining up Bulgaria and Greece.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-07/eu-aims-to-cut-dependence-on-russian-gas-by-almost-80-this-year?srnd=premium

 

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On 3/6/2022 at 11:43 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

I am an anarchist. Communism is not my favorite ideology, but I understand it, because I grew up in USSR.  You don't, being a product of Culture War on Communism paid for by the CIA, like most Americans are. For you, it is nothing but a swear word. You do not even notice how you live in a tyranny much worse than USSR ever was. Because the citizens of USSR never had any illusions about the government ever telling them the truth. Moreover, it turns out that they actually were, a lot of times! When it was something about the West. Never about the issues of domestic significance.

Acknowledged is one thing, really held secret with any degree of success, another. Are you claiming nobody really knew about those?

There are some things, but they are well known, at least at the level of a rumor. Say, the X-37 space plane. You do realize it is a space bomber, right? Boeing officially denies it, but who are they fooling?

Apparently you know zero Americans who are not in academia or much of anything about culture war or CIA.  Let me show you the basis for the US government and its people based in Christian/Enlightenment principles... No one trusts the government.  Why?  humans are corrupt(always will be) and government is formed by humans.  Which leads to power hungry ass holes seeking power go into government or try to subsume governments functions to their own ends.  So, the less government you have, and that which you do have must be internally balanced to fight/entangle itself, the more infighting power struggles you have in government the better off you(civilians) are as there is less corruption.  Why? The infighting will expose said corruption in the process of them trying to gain power.  When government gets big, corruption gets big.  So, make your government small and give your populace the 2nd ammendment to carry weapons allowing the people to clean out the government should the need arise.

No one should EVER trust ANY government.  They are ALL corrupt.  Some are less corrupt than others. 

Only stupid naive atheists called socialists/communists(non naive atheists believe otherwise) believe their "utopian" government(with them in charge of course) will be perfect.  This is essentially the core religious tenant for most atheists.  They may express this in different methods, but the end result is government is their arbiter of truth/morals.  It is this sentiment you are registering.  The end justifies the means for this cadre of people. 

You are blathering about X-37.... 🤡🙄😆🤣 Any satellite housing a weapon, or ICBM is a weapon without equal.    X37 is for servicing satellites... and far more likely, SPYING on satellites, or grabbing defunct sattelites to bring down so the boffins can look at them.   

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2 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Apparently you know zero Americans who are not in academia or much of anything about culture war or CIA.  Let me show you the basis for the US government and its people based in Christian/Enlightenment principles... No one trusts the government.  Why?  humans are corrupt(always will be) and government is formed by humans.  Which leads to power hungry ass holes seeking power go into government or try to subsume governments functions to their own ends.  So, the less government you have, and that which you do have must be internally balanced to fight/entangle itself, the more infighting power struggles you have in government the better off you(civilians) are as there is less corruption.  Why? The infighting will expose said corruption in the process of them trying to gain power.  When government gets big, corruption gets big.  So, make your government small and give your populace the 2nd ammendment to carry weapons allowing the people to clean out the government should the need arise.

No one should EVER trust ANY government.  They are ALL corrupt.  Some are less corrupt than others. 

Only stupid naive atheists called socialists/communists(non naive atheists believe otherwise) believe their "utopian" government(with them in charge of course) will be perfect.  This is essentially the core religious tenant for most atheists.  They may express this in different methods, but the end result is government is their arbiter of truth/morals.  It is this sentiment you are registering.  The end justifies the means for this cadre of people. 

You are blathering about X-37.... 🤡🙄😆🤣 Any satellite housing a weapon, or ICBM is a weapon without equal.    X37 is for servicing satellites... and far more likely, SPYING on satellites, or grabbing defunct sattelites to bring down so the boffins can look at them.   

The Soviet people had zero trust into their own government. A lot less than you do. Because you do believe into official propaganda and don't even have other sources of info. The American government is by no means small or light handed, and just keeps getting larger and more intrusive. So, allegiance to less government is another lip service. Soviet propaganda was a lot harder to believe, because it was never as slick and never managed to turn the very language people use into Newspeak. Christianity/Enlightenment my ass. More like dystopia beyond 1984.

Satellites and ICBMs have predictable trajectories, X-37 does not. TTA for a nuke delivered from a space bomber that is already overhead is a couple of minutes tops.

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On 3/6/2022 at 1:55 PM, kshithij Sharma said:

$100 oil is not really helpful if USA tries to use oil trade to send in their agents and spies under the garb of private companies and consultants. It will be akin to eating delicious food which has been mixed with poison. 

I can’t think of anything most countries know that we need a spy to find out what it is. If we go to bombing any cyber attack, that should clear up future infractions. Stability, energy and an educated workforce is the key to success. Politicians and Oligarchs mostly slow positive progress. We certainly don’t need your ideology. We have enough idiots of our own country.

Edited March 8, 2022 by Boat

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13 hours ago, surrept33 said:

EU Aims to Cut Dependence on Russian Gas by Almost 80% This Year

The European Union’s executive arm is mapping out a path to end the bloc’s reliance on Russian gas which could see import needs cut by almost 80% this year, according to two officials with knowledge of the matter.

The commission considers that the EU already has sufficient gas to get through the rest of this winter even in the event of an abrupt disruption of Russian supplies. The bloc’s executive arm will recommend that member states start work now on filling up storage tanks so they’re prepared for next winter.

The commission is set to say that accelerating the Green Deal, the bloc’s sweeping strategy aimed at reaching climate neutrality by 2050, will reduce greenhouse gas emissions, cut reliance on imported fossil fuels and shield the economy from price hikes, according to the official, who asked not to be identified, as discussions on the strategy are private. The proposals may still change before they are adopted.

As part of the clean shift, the EU is currently discussing a set of laws to meet a stricter 2030 goal of cutting greenhouse gases by at least 55% from 1990 levels. Full implementation of the “Fit for 55” rules would cut EU gas consumption this decade by 23%, or an equivalent of 82 billion cubic meters.Tuesday’s plans will add on higher LNG imports and pipeline supplies from outside Russia, more renewable gases, energy savings and a shift to electrification. Together, that will give the EU the potential to effectively replace the 155 billion cubic meters of gas it currently imports from Russia, with 112 bcm this year.

As much as 50 bcm a year will come from new sources of LNG, 10 bcm will come through pipelines from other suppliers and 20 bcm will come from new wind energy capacity which will reduce the demand for gas-fired power stations.The push may mean more ambitious 2030 targets for renewables and energy efficiency. The commission is also set to prioritize work on connecting pipelines on the Iberian peninsula with the rest of Europe and joining up Bulgaria and Greece.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-07/eu-aims-to-cut-dependence-on-russian-gas-by-almost-80-this-year?srnd=premium

 

Currently EU has a long term contract with Russia. Russia has supplied very little gas above the long term contract stipulation this year. This means that if EU cuts down on Russian gas, Russia will consider it to be a violation of the contract and can stop the entire gas flow especially during times of great need like the winter. So, there is very limited scope for cutting Russian gas supplies to Europe by substituting it with anything else. EU can at best flare off Russian gas and incur unnecessary losses just to make a political statement but substituting it will be very difficult.

7 hours ago, Boat said:

I can’t think of anything most countries know that we need a spy to find out what it is. If we go to bombing any cyber attack, that should clear up future infractions. Stability, energy and an educated workforce is the key to success. Politicians and Oligarchs mostly slow positive progress. We certainly don’t need your ideology. We have enough idiots of our own country.

Who said that the agents are sent to learn new information? The agents are sent to do sabotage, disruptions, insurrections, assassinations etc. Just recently Maduro saw how USA sponsored agents like Guaido tried to raise an insurrection which failed solely due to the trust Venezuelan people had in Maduro.

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On 3/6/2022 at 4:04 PM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

The somewhat equalitarian US inherited this problem from the Brits, who were some of the worse. Used to not be able to coordinate even at a level of ship's capstans/colonels, eq

If this were true then how come Brits ended up with an empire larger than any other country ever had in history if we were disorganised and had no miltary tactics? You are again talking nonsense.

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26 minutes ago, Rob Plant said:

If this were true then how come Brits ended up with an empire larger than any other country ever had in history if we were disorganised and had no miltary tactics? You are again talking nonsense.

The others were just as bad or worse.

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15 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

The others were just as bad or worse.

So the others were as bad or worse, so surely that makes the Brits the best then.

Thanks for clearing that up!

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1 hour ago, Rob Plant said:

So the others were as bad or worse, so surely that makes the Brits the best then.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Caste societies have outplayed their usefulness. You still have yours to a significant extent.

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42 minutes ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Caste societies have outplayed their usefulness. You still have yours to a significant extent.

Actually no we havent anymore.

There is still the Royal family obviously, but it's now the super rich elite versus everyone else. There is no class structure anymore. You could argue that many Russian oligarchs living in London are the new upper class, although I think their lives are becoming very very difficult since the war in Ukraine.

India is far more class structured than the UK with their caste system, or perhaps the Middle East with their sheihks.

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6 hours ago, kshithij Sharma said:

Who said that the agents are sent to learn new information? The agents are sent to do sabotage, disruptions, insurrections, assassinations etc. Just recently Maduro saw how USA sponsored agents like Guaido tried to raise an insurrection which failed solely due to the trust Venezuelan people had in Maduro.

That was the last administration, bro.

Anyway, Maduro seems open to it, and there is bipartisan support in the US to make it happen:

Maduro hails ‘cordial’ talks with US as west seeks new oil supplies

“We agreed to work on a forward-looking agenda,” Maduro said in a late-night televised address on Monday. “We’ll press ahead with the conversations, the co-ordinations, and a positive agenda for the government of the United States and the government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.”

The meeting appears to mark a major policy shift for the US, which used to be the biggest buyer of Venezuelan oil until the Trump administration slapped sanctions on Caracas in 2019, closing its embassy there and accusing Maduro of stealing a presidential election the previous year.

Washington may also see the Ukrainian conflict as an opportunity to coax Maduro away from Moscow’s embrace in exchange for easing sanctions on Venezuelan oil.

The administration of former US president Donald Trump recognised opposition leader Juan Guaidó as Venezuela’s legitimate president in 2018 instead of Maduro and persuaded about 60 other nations to follow suit.

Since then Guaidó’s support has dwindled and many of the countries that once recognised him, particularly in the EU, no longer do so.

The Trump-era sanctions crushed Venezuela’s economy but Maduro tightened his grip on power and has survived with the support of Cuba, Russia and China.

https://www.ft.com/content/276aac3e-25bd-45c2-b5f4-8459240c9462

Edited March 8, 2022 by surrept33

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44 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

That was the last administration, bro.

Anyway, Maduro seems open to it, and there is bipartisan support in the US to make it happen:

Maduro hails ‘cordial’ talks with US as west seeks new oil supplies

“We agreed to work on a forward-looking agenda,” Maduro said in a late-night televised address on Monday. “We’ll press ahead with the conversations, the co-ordinations, and a positive agenda for the government of the United States and the government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.”

The meeting appears to mark a major policy shift for the US, which used to be the biggest buyer of Venezuelan oil until the Trump administration slapped sanctions on Caracas in 2019, closing its embassy there and accusing Maduro of stealing a presidential election the previous year.

Washington may also see the Ukrainian conflict as an opportunity to coax Maduro away from Moscow’s embrace in exchange for easing sanctions on Venezuelan oil.

The administration of former US president Donald Trump recognised opposition leader Juan Guaidó as Venezuela’s legitimate president in 2018 instead of Maduro and persuaded about 60 other nations to follow suit.

Since then Guaidó’s support has dwindled and many of the countries that once recognised him, particularly in the EU, no longer do so.

The Trump-era sanctions crushed Venezuela’s economy but Maduro tightened his grip on power and has survived with the support of Cuba, Russia and China.

https://www.ft.com/content/276aac3e-25bd-45c2-b5f4-8459240c9462

Maduro is not strong enough to rebuff USA. But it will be highly unlikely that any concrete actions will be taken. Buying from Venezuela will mean buying less from Canada as Venezuelan tar sands don't substitute for conventional oil. This really does not make much sense for USA to give concessions and stop buying Canadian oil. Maduro, on the other hand, will be suspicious of USA and will not allow any real alliance without strong concessions. There may be some uptick in trade of Venezuelan tar sands but it will not be significant enough.

Edited March 8, 2022 by kshithij Sharma

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16 minutes ago, kshithij Sharma said:

Maduro is not strong enough to rebuff USA. But it will be highly unlikely that any concrete actions will be taken. Buying from Venezuela will mean buying less from Canada as Venezuelan tar sands don't substitute for conventional oil. This really does not make much sense for USA to give concessions and stop buying Canadian oil. Maduro, on the other hand, will be suspicious of USA and will not allow any real alliance without strong concessions. There may be some uptick in trade of Venezuelan tar sands but it will not be significant enough.

The oil may be refined in the USA but it will go to Europe and elsewhere. We can buy all that Canada does not need at home. Canada will also be exporting natural gas, possibly to California but definitely to China. The new port in British Columbia should be ready soon. 

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On 3/6/2022 at 12:42 PM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

No, you don't. Neither do the Russians. The deterrent value of an advanced weapons system is much higher than whatever you get out of secrecy. There is a voice record of Hitler, where he says he wouldn't have attacked the USSR if he knew about the T-34 and how many of them USSR already had.

Your very Gullible to think that!

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On 3/6/2022 at 2:43 PM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

I am an anarchist. Communism is not my favorite ideology, but I understand it, because I grew up in USSR.  You don't, being a product of Culture War on Communism paid for by the CIA, like most Americans are. For you, it is nothing but a swear word. You do not even notice how you live in a tyranny much worse than USSR ever was. Because the citizens of USSR never had any illusions about the government ever telling them the truth. Moreover, it turns out that they actually were, a lot of times! When it was something about the West. Never about the issues of domestic significance.

Acknowledged is one thing, really held secret with any degree of success, another. Are you claiming nobody really knew about those?

There are some things, but they are well known, at least at the level of a rumor. Say, the X-37 space plane. You do realize it is a space bomber, right? Boeing officially denies it, but who are they fooling?

So you're on this site to acknowledge disinformation.

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

The oil may be refined in the USA but it will go to Europe and elsewhere. We can buy all that Canada does not need at home. Canada will also be exporting natural gas, possibly to California but definitely to China. The new port in British Columbia should be ready soon. 

Actually this dilemma happened a few years back when Canadian oil did not find enough buyers and had to sold at massive discounts. People tried to blame it on lack of pipelines but the reality is that it is lack of demand for tar sands. Tar sands need to be mixed with light condensate to blend it into heavy oil. If you look at the production of Venezuela and Canada from 2010, it is clearly visible how Canada substituted venezuela rather than add to it. Canada has too much oil sands but they can't export it to anyone else. It is not that Canada is dumb to not have a refinery themselves for export. Considering that Canadian oil sands were sold for decades, it would only make sense that Canada would have already developed refineries if it was feasible