TailingsPond + 542 GE May 27 (edited) 3 minutes ago, markslawson said: Now you're getting desperate. Go and look at the links in the other thread and I'll leave it with you. Link to what? Youtube channels? No, I'm not watching that. Show data from a credible source. Edited May 27 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 May 27 (edited) https://x.com/steveguest/status/1794757740394684656 WATCH: CBS’s Margaret Brennan laughs in Pete Buttigieg’s face when he is unable to explain why only 7 or 8 electric vehicle charging stations have been built despite the Biden admin spending $7.5 BILLION to build chargers. The promise was to cover the nation with a charging station every 50 miles on the interstate highway system. Do I remember correctly? Edited May 27 by Ron Wagner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 May 27 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/12/07/predictably-the-rush-to-electric-cars-is-imploding/ Predictably, the Rush to Electric Cars Is Imploding 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 May 27 https://evadoption.com/ev-sales/quarterly-us-ev-sales-scoreboard/ Q4 2023 US EV Sales Scoreboard (Of Models Where OEMs Report Sales)* Updated Q1 2024 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,685 RP May 28 On 5/25/2024 at 6:35 AM, TailingsPond said: Maybe, sometimes cheap vehicle imports are prohibited because they do not meet the safety laws. New cars must have airbags, ABS, rear backup cameras, etc. It would have to go through the EURO NCAP safety testing and then get a rating. Euro NCAP | The European New Car Assessment Programme It would have to achieve at least a 3 or 4 rating to be viable which would include airbags etc but also it would be crashed in many ways to determine its strength upon a collision. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,154 DM June 5 Mark , I will let you sort this one out .........Cheap EVs out of China coming to your local dealer now Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com Chinese EV Sales in Europe Jump by 23% China saw its electric vehicle sales in Europe jump by 23% over the first four months of the year despite efforts by the EU to protect local... . 17 hours ago 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,685 RP June 5 These very very cheap Byd cars are a game changer in this whole debate. It leaves every government with the dilemma of whether to impose large levies to protect home auto manufacturers or stick to their promises of COP24. If they stick to their "green agendas" then they surely cannot impose massive import levies. Let market forces play out I say. A brand new car with good range for $10K! Those gas/petrol clunkers are doomed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 June 5 (edited) 14 hours ago, Rob Plant said: These very very cheap Byd cars are a game changer in this whole debate. It leaves every government with the dilemma of whether to impose large levies to protect home auto manufacturers or stick to their promises of COP24. If they stick to their "green agendas" then they surely cannot impose massive import levies. Let market forces play out I say. A brand new car with good range for $10K! Those gas/petrol clunkers are doomed. It remains to be seen if or when electric vehicles, other than hybrids, can soon attract the middle class and lower buyers. I think it can eventually. A free market would probably doom any hope that American manufacturers could compete in the low cost EV market, and that is probably an understatement. Edited June 5 by Ron Wagner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,154 DM June 5 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said: It remains to be seen if or when electric vehicles, other than hybrids, can soon attract the middle class and lower buyers. I think it can eventually. A free market would probably doom any hope that American manufacturers could compete in the low cost EV market, and that is probably an understatement. Ron I agree the Hyrbids and PHEVs are an easy choice ....getting up to twice the MPG is a game changer in the Auto Business......For straight EVs they really need to get a design change on battery packs.. IE Battery packs in more of a modular format..IE 30 separate accessible batteries that you can pull them out and replace the bad batteries or cells in a battery .....not having to replace and entire battery pack for a small problem Rome was not built in a day Right now BYD has the Model T's that Ford once had...............cheap ...reliable .....and long lasting expect the EVs are fasssssssssssttttttttttt.........the sky is the limit for low cost EVs........... going to get real interesting real fast Edited June 5 by notsonice 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 June 5 8 minutes ago, notsonice said: Ron I agree the Hyrbids and PHEVs are an easy choice ....getting up to twice the MPG is a game changer in the Auto Business......For straight EVs they really need to get a design change on battery packs.. IE Battery packs in more of a modular format..IE 30 separate accessible batteries that you can pull them out and replace the bad batteries or cells in a battery .....not having to replace and entire battery pack for a small problem Rome was not built in a day Right now BYD has the Model T's that Ford once had...............cheap ...reliable .....and long lasting expect the EVs are fasssssssssssttttttttttt.........the sky is the limit for low cost EVs........... going to get real interesting real fast I agree that many want lower priced cars. I often drive our poorly rated Mitsubishi three cylinder and actually prefer it for around town but it can do mountain driving and go anywhere. The price is now about $17,000 and it gets 40 mpg plus or minus depending on how you drive. I think BYD should get free market here and Europe. China allows us to export our cars to them, but I do not now the tariffs involved. Anything lower priced would be a contender. I just saw an American battery golf cart advertised for $18,000! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 June 5 https://www.autoweek.com/news/a60164799/chinese-evs-from-byd-in-mexico/ Are Chinese EVs From Mexico A Threat To The US? Now the world’s top seller of EVs, BYD is eyeing a Mexican plant and is selling $21,000 electric Dolphin Minis just across the border. BY JIM MOTAVALLIPUBLISHED: MAR 12, 2024 11:17 AM EDT BYD BYD says it does not plan to sell very affordable EVs in the US. But the company—which is scouting plant locations in Mexico—might have a very good economic incentive to do so. Imported Chinese cars are subject to prohibitive 25% tariffs. But imports from Mexico built with Chinese parts pay only a 2.5% duty under the rules of the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement. The Dolphin Mini (pictured above) is BYD’s fourth EV available in Mexico, after the Han, the Tang, and the Yuan Plus. BYD’s new Yuan Up, shown in China last February, could sell in the range of $14,000 to $20,000, and may be exported. Looking for a bargain EV? Pickings are slim in the US (the Nissan Leaf starts at $29,255), but across the border in Mexico consumers can buy the BYD Dolphin Mini from Chinese automaker BYD for a mere $21,000. It’s a small hatchback with vague Honda Fit overtones. It will reportedly go 190 miles on a charge, and if you want more there’s the Dolphin Mini Plus with 252 miles of range—and a $23,000 bottom line. Advertisement - Continue Reading Below According to BYD, there are no plans to sell these very affordable EVs in the US. But the company—which is scouting plant locations in Mexico—might have a very good economic incentive to do so. Imported Chinese cars are subject to prohibitive 25% tariffs, which is why they’re still scarce here, but getting plentiful in Europe and South America. RELATED STORY When Do Chinese EVs Invade the US? The sky-high duties are only for cars brought to the US from China. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,685 RP June 6 9 hours ago, Ron Wagner said: https://www.autoweek.com/news/a60164799/chinese-evs-from-byd-in-mexico/ Are Chinese EVs From Mexico A Threat To The US? Now the world’s top seller of EVs, BYD is eyeing a Mexican plant and is selling $21,000 electric Dolphin Minis just across the border. BY JIM MOTAVALLIPUBLISHED: MAR 12, 2024 11:17 AM EDT BYD BYD says it does not plan to sell very affordable EVs in the US. But the company—which is scouting plant locations in Mexico—might have a very good economic incentive to do so. Imported Chinese cars are subject to prohibitive 25% tariffs. But imports from Mexico built with Chinese parts pay only a 2.5% duty under the rules of the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement. The Dolphin Mini (pictured above) is BYD’s fourth EV available in Mexico, after the Han, the Tang, and the Yuan Plus. BYD’s new Yuan Up, shown in China last February, could sell in the range of $14,000 to $20,000, and may be exported. Looking for a bargain EV? Pickings are slim in the US (the Nissan Leaf starts at $29,255), but across the border in Mexico consumers can buy the BYD Dolphin Mini from Chinese automaker BYD for a mere $21,000. It’s a small hatchback with vague Honda Fit overtones. It will reportedly go 190 miles on a charge, and if you want more there’s the Dolphin Mini Plus with 252 miles of range—and a $23,000 bottom line. Advertisement - Continue Reading Below According to BYD, there are no plans to sell these very affordable EVs in the US. But the company—which is scouting plant locations in Mexico—might have a very good economic incentive to do so. Imported Chinese cars are subject to prohibitive 25% tariffs, which is why they’re still scarce here, but getting plentiful in Europe and South America. RELATED STORY When Do Chinese EVs Invade the US? The sky-high duties are only for cars brought to the US from China. Its amazing how quickly EV's have developed. Its only very recently (last year or so) that most governments were handing out incentives to buy an EV and people on here were saying "whoa let market forces prevail, its unfair on the ICE vehicles" and yet now countries are imposing huge levies on EV's that are way cheaper to buy than equivalent ICE vehicles. To those who were moaning about how unfair it was they can't now have it both ways!! I'd like to hear from Ecocharger, Mark Lawson, Eyes wide shut and the other deniers on here what they think to those levies and whether they agree they should be imposed. If they do then they deal in double standards! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,393 DL June 7 17 hours ago, Rob Plant said: Its amazing how quickly EV's have developed. Its only very recently (last year or so) that most governments were handing out incentives to buy an EV and people on here were saying "whoa let market forces prevail, its unfair on the ICE vehicles" and yet now countries are imposing huge levies on EV's that are way cheaper to buy than equivalent ICE vehicles. To those who were moaning about how unfair it was they can't now have it both ways!! I'd like to hear from Ecocharger, Mark Lawson, Eyes wide shut and the other deniers on here what they think to those levies and whether they agree they should be imposed. If they do then they deal in double standards! The bottom line is that the market for EVs has weakened everywhere. It's game over. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,154 DM June 7 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: The bottom line is that the market for EVs has weakened everywhere. It's game over. It's game over.??? for your beloved ICE clunkers Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com Chinese EV Sales in Europe Jump by 23% 2 days ago Reuters China's Nio expects second-quarter EV sales to more than double 16 hours ago IEA – International Energy Agency The world's electric car fleet continues to grow strongly, with 2024 sales set to reach 17 million - News - IEA Despite near-term challenges in some markets, based on today's policy settings, almost 1 in 3 cars on the roads in China by 2030 is set to. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,393 DL June 7 15 hours ago, notsonice said: It's game over.??? for your beloved ICE clunkers Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com Chinese EV Sales in Europe Jump by 23% 2 days ago Reuters China's Nio expects second-quarter EV sales to more than double 16 hours ago IEA – International Energy Agency The world's electric car fleet continues to grow strongly, with 2024 sales set to reach 17 million - News - IEA Despite near-term challenges in some markets, based on today's policy settings, almost 1 in 3 cars on the roads in China by 2030 is set to. No, EVs are in trouble everywhere, especially in Britain, Europe, and America. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,154 DM June 7 (edited) On 6/7/2024 at 12:54 PM, Ecocharger said: No, EVs are in trouble everywhere, especially in Britain, Europe, and America. No, EVs are in trouble everywhere, especially in Britain, Europe, and America.?????? you should write to the people who put out the article as posted below and tell them no............ Me, I am just the messenger of news that disputes your BS Babble..... you should publish your own articles or better yet write a book like Mark did.....How many copies of Marks book sold????? The article you are disputing posted below...........Oh wait it was put out on this site.....you should hit up the forum moderator and tell her that they should retract their article below..that you have better info...I am sure they will giver your BS babble top billing.............Go for it and while your at it you should pen an article on how pollution free coal is..........I bet you with your gift of babbling BS they will hire you on the spot You can declare yourself a world expert in how coal is pollution free...............I mean with all your BS on coal being pollution free everyone will take your word as the truth....... Until then all you are is a fool who babble BS nonstop that no one takes seriously Crude Oil Prices Today | OilPrice.com Chinese EV Sales in Europe Jump by 23% 2 days ago Edited June 10 by notsonice 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 June 9 On 6/6/2024 at 9:10 PM, Ecocharger said: The bottom line is that the market for EVs has weakened everywhere. It's game over. I think the market for cheap Chinese EVs is good in many areas of the world. Even India is producing them. I think they should be an option in the U.S.A. because many people can't afford safe transportation. We love driving our 3 cylinder ICE Mitsubishi Mirage. It is the lowest price ICE in America. https://www.mitsubishicars.com/cars-and-suvs/mirage $17,000 Ours was purchased for $14,000 five years ago. No problems! Such ICE vehicles could compete with EVs but American companies don't want that business. If China is not aggressive worldwide let them compete. India too. That is better than making them worse enemies but some issues need to be straightened out first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Plant + 2,685 RP June 10 The Car Industry Misjudges Consumer Demand for Electric Vehicles The Car Industry Misjudges Consumer Demand for Electric Vehicles | OilPrice.com Oh dear Eco looks like the numbers youve been posting arent accurate at all!!! 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,393 DL June 11 On 6/10/2024 at 3:46 AM, Rob Plant said: The Car Industry Misjudges Consumer Demand for Electric Vehicles The Car Industry Misjudges Consumer Demand for Electric Vehicles | OilPrice.com Oh dear Eco looks like the numbers youve been posting arent accurate at all!!! No, there are zero numbers on fleets, all we know is that British personal EV sales are in serious trouble, because of the withdrawal of government support, and that will also happen this year when the government removes supports for EV fleets. The EV market is now exhausted, the people who want EVs have already bought them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,154 DM June 11 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: No, there are zero numbers on fleets, all we know is that British personal EV sales are in serious trouble, because of the withdrawal of government support, and that will also happen this year when the government removes supports for EV fleets. The EV market is now exhausted, the people who want EVs have already bought them. The EV market is now exhausted????? not in the UK enjoy the real numbers ...Love it when your BS is proven again to be nothing but BS Cumulative number of plug-in cars registered in the UK (2019 to date) Year BEV PHEV 2021 396,497 348,352 2022 663,700 449,766 2023 978,387 591,077 2024 (YTD) 1,111,449 655,995 1 more row How many EVs are there in the UK - EV market statistics 2024 Zap-Map https://www.zap-map.com › Ev stats What proportion of cars sold each month are electric? In May 2024, 17.6% of all new car registrations were electric cars, with 26,031 new electric cars registered. Note that, in the UK, March and September are new registration plate months, which accounts for the twice-yearly peaks in electric car sales and, historically, a drop in market share in these periods. Number of new battery-electric cars and market share, monthly BEVMonthly BEV Market ShareMay-23June-23July-23Aug-23Sep-23Oct-23Nov-23Dec-23Jan-24Feb-24Mar-24Apr-24May-24010,00020,00030,00040,00050,0000%5%10%15%20%25%% of new car registrations Month BEV Monthly BEV Market Share May-23 24,513 16.90% June-23 31,700 17.90% July-23 23,010 16.00% Aug-23 17,243 20.10% Sep-23 45,323 16.60% Oct-23 23,943 15.60% Nov-23 24,359 15.60% Dec-23 27,841 19.70% Jan-24 20,935 14.70% Feb-24 14,991 17.70% Mar-24 48,388 15.20% Apr-24 22,717 16.90% May-24 26,031 17.60% Source: SMMT, May 2024 How many plug-in cars are there in the UK? As of the end of May 2024, there were around 1,765,000 plug-in cars, with over 1,110,000 battery-electric cars and 656,000 PHEVs registered. In 2023, more than 452,000 plug-in hybrid and battery-electric cars were registered, showing a growth of 41% on 2022. There was also a significant shift away from plug-in hybrids towards battery-electric cars, with plug-in hybrid sales declining year on year, while battery-electric vehicle sales have increased. Edited June 11 by notsonice 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 June 12 9 hours ago, Ecocharger said: No, there are zero numbers on fleets, all we know is that British personal EV sales are in serious trouble, because of the withdrawal of government support, and that will also happen this year when the government removes supports for EV fleets. The EV market is now exhausted, the people who want EVs have already bought them. Europe and America will not be the major purchasers of automobiles in the future. It will be the people who need the the least expensive vehicles. China, India, and maybe Japan, and Korea, will meet that need. Many in America and Europe need affordable transportation also. One big question though, is how much electricity will be available in those countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 663 June 12 (edited) 9 hours ago, notsonice said: The EV market is now exhausted????? not in the UK enjoy the real numbers ...Love it when your BS is proven again to be nothing but BS Cumulative number of plug-in cars registered in the UK (2019 to date) Year BEV PHEV 2021 396,497 348,352 2022 663,700 449,766 2023 978,387 591,077 2024 (YTD) 1,111,449 655,995 1 more row How many EVs are there in the UK - EV market statistics 2024 Zap-Map https://www.zap-map.com › Ev stats What proportion of cars sold each month are electric? In May 2024, 17.6% of all new car registrations were electric cars, with 26,031 new electric cars registered. Note that, in the UK, March and September are new registration plate months, which accounts for the twice-yearly peaks in electric car sales and, historically, a drop in market share in these periods. Number of new battery-electric cars and market share, monthly BEVMonthly BEV Market ShareMay-23June-23July-23Aug-23Sep-23Oct-23Nov-23Dec-23Jan-24Feb-24Mar-24Apr-24May-24010,00020,00030,00040,00050,0000%5%10%15%20%25%% of new car registrations Month BEV Monthly BEV Market Share May-23 24,513 16.90% June-23 31,700 17.90% July-23 23,010 16.00% Aug-23 17,243 20.10% Sep-23 45,323 16.60% Oct-23 23,943 15.60% Nov-23 24,359 15.60% Dec-23 27,841 19.70% Jan-24 20,935 14.70% Feb-24 14,991 17.70% Mar-24 48,388 15.20% Apr-24 22,717 16.90% May-24 26,031 17.60% Source: SMMT, May 2024 How many plug-in cars are there in the UK? As of the end of May 2024, there were around 1,765,000 plug-in cars, with over 1,110,000 battery-electric cars and 656,000 PHEVs registered. In 2023, more than 452,000 plug-in hybrid and battery-electric cars were registered, showing a growth of 41% on 2022. There was also a significant shift away from plug-in hybrids towards battery-electric cars, with plug-in hybrid sales declining year on year, while battery-electric vehicle sales have increased. Britain is a very small area and can be easily supplied with electric charging stations. Long range vehicles are not needed and recharging is not a problem as it is in larger countries. Most of the Nordic countries have populations that are concentrated in the southern area. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4857126/The-11-U-S-states-bigger-UK.html Edited June 12 by Ron Wagner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Ecocharger + 1,393 DL June 14 On 6/10/2024 at 3:46 AM, Rob Plant said: The Car Industry Misjudges Consumer Demand for Electric Vehicles The Car Industry Misjudges Consumer Demand for Electric Vehicles | OilPrice.com Oh dear Eco looks like the numbers youve been posting arent accurate at all!!! Rob, wake up and smell the coffee. UK EVs are spiraling downward in sales trends. Read and learn, https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Car-Industry-Misjudges-Consumer-Demand-for-Electric-Vehicles.html "Tumbling private demand for electric vehicles (EVs) has dominated media headlines throughout this year, fuelling car owners’ concerns over the high cost of making the transition. Car industry data, provided by the sector’s trade body the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), showed sales to private buyers had fallen 7.7 per cent in April. This week’s SMMT data revealed a similar trend, with EV sales to the general public slipping another 2 per cent in May. The decline has prompted calls for the government to introduce taxpayer-funded incentives for buyers and driven a narrative in the Telegraph and Daily Mail that British car owners’ interest in purchasing EVs is waning." The UK driver is getting sick of EVs, and getting sick from EVs. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13433765/ev-driven-gas-cars-charging-stations.html "Electric vehicles cost 63.6 percent more for every 1,000 miles driven per year compared to gasoline cars." "The average cost of an electric car for every 1,000 miles driven per year is $5,108 - compared to $3,056 for a hybrid car, $3,123 for a gasoline car and $4,351 for a plug in hybrid. An expert explained why drivers are hesitant to use electric vehicles, besides the hefty price tags - saying that people are anxious that the car's battery might die and leave them stranded without access to a charging station. 'Range anxiety and charging infrastructure are top-of-mind for EV drivers, and those factors likely limit how far owners will drive them,' said Karl Brauer, iSeeCars Executive Analyst. " "There are growing reports of electric car drivers suffering motion sickness, dizziness and nausea from the vehicles' braking and acceleration systems. And a former Tesla owner has claimed that she experienced nosebleeds, hair loss and 'debilitating' body pains while using the vehicle she purchased in 2021. While she was not entirely sure the Tesla was at fault, the Georgia resident and said her symptoms disappeared after selling the car. Tesla owners have had to trade in some models because the air conditioning systems were prone to mold, which can cause asthma-like symptoms. Tesla has been accused of being the 'worst offender' for causing motion sickness from its one-pedal throttle because they can be 'very jerky and really abrupt,' Ed Kim, president and chief analyst of AutoPacific said. The value of a used Tesla fell by more than $1,000 on average in the first half of January, new figures show." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,154 DM June 14 18 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Rob, wake up and smell the coffee. UK EVs are spiraling downward in sales trends. Read and learn, https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Car-Industry-Misjudges-Consumer-Demand-for-Electric-Vehicles.html "Tumbling private demand for electric vehicles (EVs) has dominated media headlines throughout this year, fuelling car owners’ concerns over the high cost of making the transition. Car industry data, provided by the sector’s trade body the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), showed sales to private buyers had fallen 7.7 per cent in April. This week’s SMMT data revealed a similar trend, with EV sales to the general public slipping another 2 per cent in May. The decline has prompted calls for the government to introduce taxpayer-funded incentives for buyers and driven a narrative in the Telegraph and Daily Mail that British car owners’ interest in purchasing EVs is waning." The UK driver is getting sick of EVs, and getting sick from EVs. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13433765/ev-driven-gas-cars-charging-stations.html "Electric vehicles cost 63.6 percent more for every 1,000 miles driven per year compared to gasoline cars." "The average cost of an electric car for every 1,000 miles driven per year is $5,108 - compared to $3,056 for a hybrid car, $3,123 for a gasoline car and $4,351 for a plug in hybrid. An expert explained why drivers are hesitant to use electric vehicles, besides the hefty price tags - saying that people are anxious that the car's battery might die and leave them stranded without access to a charging station. 'Range anxiety and charging infrastructure are top-of-mind for EV drivers, and those factors likely limit how far owners will drive them,' said Karl Brauer, iSeeCars Executive Analyst. " "There are growing reports of electric car drivers suffering motion sickness, dizziness and nausea from the vehicles' braking and acceleration systems. And a former Tesla owner has claimed that she experienced nosebleeds, hair loss and 'debilitating' body pains while using the vehicle she purchased in 2021. While she was not entirely sure the Tesla was at fault, the Georgia resident and said her symptoms disappeared after selling the car. Tesla owners have had to trade in some models because the air conditioning systems were prone to mold, which can cause asthma-like symptoms. Tesla has been accused of being the 'worst offender' for causing motion sickness from its one-pedal throttle because they can be 'very jerky and really abrupt,' Ed Kim, president and chief analyst of AutoPacific said. The value of a used Tesla fell by more than $1,000 on average in the first half of January, new figures show." try to keep up with the times, Luddite the latest out of US CNBC Ford EV and hybrid sales surge 65% in May Ford's U.S. new vehicle sales rose 11.2% last month compared to May of last year, boosted by strong sales growth for all-electric and hybrid... . 1 week ago Electrek Ford's EV sales continue surging in May despite shifting plans Despite a recent pullback on its electric vehicle strategy amid “slower-than-expected” demand, Ford's EV sales continued surging in May. . 1 week ago 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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