America Is Exceptional in Its Political Divide

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1 hour ago, Boat said:

The Biden madness happens while he is sleeping or unable to function. Sweden and Finland going NATO. Turkey may go EU? Biden can sleep and win Europe. Or to be more accurate let Trump and Putin/ Erdogan self implode. so far America is still welding the winning power plays. Propaganda doesn't change the facts on the ground. 

Once again you demonstrate just how inept you are. Trump and Erdoran slapped down Syria and Russia, gave Syrian oilfields to the Kurds.

Under Biden's world order administration China and Russia have formed a alliance. That may well cause unimaginable consequences.

 

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10 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Once again you demonstrate just how inept you are. Trump and Erdoran slapped down Syria and Russia, gave Syrian oilfields to the Kurds.

Under Biden's world order administration China and Russia have formed a alliance. That may well cause unimaginable consequences.

 

You missed the memo. 9 out of 10 of the largest trading partners with China are the US and US Allies. China would have no market if they war or get to far out of line. China does represent an economic lifeline to Russia. When Biden gets up from his nap he will address that. Trump and Biden tried tariffs with little results as predicted.  Cutting actual container ships, while disruptive and expensive, sends a clearer message. 

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5 hours ago, Boat said:

 9 out of 10 of the largest trading partners with China are the US and US Allies. China would have no market if they war or get to far out of line.

In other words the USA loves/needs to consume Chinese products.

China can sell products to others, and if not, it has over a billion of it's own consumers. 

The USA would suffer far more from a full trade stoppage. 

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On 5/13/2023 at 3:06 PM, TailingsPond said:

In other words the USA loves/needs to consume Chinese products.

China can sell products to others, and if not, it has over a billion of it's own consumers. 

The USA would suffer far more from a full trade stoppage. 

Loves is a bit strong. Your not grasping 9 out of 10 trading partners. China would lose 95% of its exports. No trade with China all at once would be very bad for all the world. But a gradual separation is needed since Taiwan and the South China Sea seem to be pursuits there cannot be agreement over. I’m not saying China can’t survive. They will have Russia, Iran, N Korea and other small markets to chase along with internal customers. With war everybody dies, with no trade we won’t fund their government. That’s the desired outcome dealing with rough authoritarian countries. 

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19 minutes ago, Boat said:

Loves is a bit strong. Your not grasping 9 out of 10 trading partners.

Understand that the USA can't force the other 9 to enter a trade war if China just "falls out of line."

In a full on war sure, but then we have way bigger problems than fewer imports of junk we don't need.

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The China Sea problem with China directly threatens US allies on the China Sea more than the US. The threats against Taiwan are the same deal. Those countries have to act in unison with the help of the US because they are for to small to act independently. Besides China is the aggressor here. Another example, You can’t create islands then claim fishing rights and move in 100’s of boats. That gets the locals excited. 

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Below would be the source of a great deal of anxiety. The US may well have experienced a very sophisticated coup..The repercussions are just beginning.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/russia-case-against-trump-was-a-shocking-conspiracy-that-continues-today/

Russia case’ against Trump was a shocking conspiracy that continues today

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Secret Service’s shady protect-Biden dodges make ‘em ALL look guilty

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‘Russia case’ against Trump was a shocking conspiracy that continues today

By 

Jonathan Turley

May 16, 2023 11:22am 

 Updated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FBI, DOJ failed to observe 'fidelity to the law' in Trump-Russia investigation, John Durham says in new report

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In Agatha Christie’s “Murder on the Orient Express,” detective Hercule Poirot observes, “The impossible could not have happened, therefore the impossible must be possible in spite of appearances.”

That may be the best summary of the findings of special prosecutor John Durham in his 305-page report issued yesterday. 

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Not only did the impossible happen, but they all did it: the Clinton campaign, the FBI, and the media. 

In hindsight, it would appear impossible.

A political campaign hatches a plot to create a false claim of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

Making this even more implausible is that the CIA and FBI know about the plot.

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As detailed in the report, President Barack Obama and his national security team were briefed on how “a trusted foreign source” revealed “a Clinton campaign plan to vilify Trump by tying him to Vladimir Putin so as to divert attention from her own concerns relating to her use of a private email server.” 

Special prosecutor John Durham issued a 305-page report on May 15, 2023.

It then happened a few days later.

In the report, Durham said former President Barack Obama and his security team were briefed on how “a trusted foreign source” revealed a Clinton plan to vilify Trump. AP

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It was a plot that required everyone to take a hand in derailing a duly elected president and effectively shutting down his administration for three years of investigation and prosecutions.

In this conspiracy, there were dozens of key participants in the campaign, the government, and the media. Here are a few of the characters implicated in this report.

The campaign

The report details how the Russian collusion conspiracy was invented by Clinton operatives and put into the now-infamous Steele dossier, funded by the Clinton campaign.

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The funding was hidden as legal expenses by then-Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias. (The Clinton campaign was later sanctioned by the FEC over its hiding of the funding.) 

 

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John Durham found DOJ and FBI 'failed to uphold their mission of strict fidelity to the law' in launching the Trump-Russia probe

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Edited May 17, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Below would be the source of a great deal of anxiety. The US may well have experienced a very sophisticated coup..The repercussions are just beginning.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/russia-case-against-trump-was-a-shocking-conspiracy-that-continues-today/

Russia case’ against Trump was a shocking conspiracy that continues today

linked to mental illness — so what are we doing?

Secret Service’s shady protect-Biden dodges make ‘em ALL look guilty

Mike Morell can’t clean up this ‘dirty’ letter that was meant to secure Biden’s 2020 win

 

 

 

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‘Russia case’ against Trump was a shocking conspiracy that continues today

By 

Jonathan Turley

May 16, 2023 11:22am 

 Updated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FBI, DOJ failed to observe 'fidelity to the law' in Trump-Russia investigation, John Durham says in new report

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

0 seconds of 33 seconds

 

 

 

 

In Agatha Christie’s “Murder on the Orient Express,” detective Hercule Poirot observes, “The impossible could not have happened, therefore the impossible must be possible in spite of appearances.”

That may be the best summary of the findings of special prosecutor John Durham in his 305-page report issued yesterday. 

MORE ON:RUSSIA

• William Barr says Durham report shows Russia investigation was a ‘grave injustice’ to Trump

• University researcher felt threatened by aide to Rep. Adam Schiff after refusing to probe Alfa Bank claims 

• Durham Report shows US government has become a partisan political weapon

• Durham points to Clinton crony as likely ‘pee tape’ source from notorious Steele dossier

 

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Not only did the impossible happen, but they all did it: the Clinton campaign, the FBI, and the media. 

In hindsight, it would appear impossible.

A political campaign hatches a plot to create a false claim of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

Making this even more implausible is that the CIA and FBI know about the plot.

ADVERTISEMENT

As detailed in the report, President Barack Obama and his national security team were briefed on how “a trusted foreign source” revealed “a Clinton campaign plan to vilify Trump by tying him to Vladimir Putin so as to divert attention from her own concerns relating to her use of a private email server.” 

Special prosecutor John Durham issued a 305-page report on May 15, 2023.

It then happened a few days later.

In the report, Durham said former President Barack Obama and his security team were briefed on how “a trusted foreign source” revealed a Clinton plan to vilify Trump. AP

ADVERTISEMENT

It was a plot that required everyone to take a hand in derailing a duly elected president and effectively shutting down his administration for three years of investigation and prosecutions.

In this conspiracy, there were dozens of key participants in the campaign, the government, and the media. Here are a few of the characters implicated in this report.

The campaign

The report details how the Russian collusion conspiracy was invented by Clinton operatives and put into the now-infamous Steele dossier, funded by the Clinton campaign.

ADVERTISEMENT

The funding was hidden as legal expenses by then-Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias. (The Clinton campaign was later sanctioned by the FEC over its hiding of the funding.) 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/keith-olbermann-demands-jake-tapper-resign-admitted-durham-report-devastating-to-the-fbi

Keith Olbermann demands Jake Tapper 'resign' after CNN host admits Durham Report 'devastating to the FBI'

John Durham found DOJ and FBI 'failed to uphold their mission of strict fidelity to the law' in launching the Trump-Russia probe

By Jeffrey Clark | Fox News

 

 

 

 

ha ha ha the great Durham investigation???

It was a complete failure....

how many people have been indicted ????( and you can bet Durham would indict a moldy ham sandwich if he found one)

 

2 indictments.......and how did they go????? NOT GUILTY because Durham tried to indict non existent activity

and the report

John Durham issued a 305-page report on May 15, 2023.....

Nothing in it but whining by Durham

You should cling onto that report....it makes great single ply in an outhouse

and did anyone care about the report.....Nope

 

New House investigation????? Nope as the GOP knows that there never was a conspiracy

anything in the report that anyone is following up on.....Nope, because there is nothing in the report

Mr Magoo, now what are you clinging onto????? ..........The 5 yr old Hunter witch hunt????...where nothing has been found.....

Ohhhh Mr. Magoo..........Modern medicine has done wonders for getting your eyes fixed......yet you cling to your cane and hope to find the light switch someday

 

Guess someone has to follow the Blind Turley.......who is a nutjob who never is right

 

The Blind leading the Blind........The GOP is in the dark ages

 

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36 minutes ago, notsonice said:

indictments.......and how did they go????? NOT GUILTY because Durham tried to indict non existent activity

Yes lovely little mouse trap was it not? A sitting judge allowing jurors knowing they were heavy Clinton donor's...And the DOJ was crickets. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

As predicted...

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-wants-a-normal-person-for-president-2024-election-2023-4

 

Elon Musk says he wants a 'normal person' for president in 2024 whose values are 'smack in the middle of the country'

 

Edited May 17, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

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9 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Yes lovely little mouse trap was it not? A sitting judge allowing jurors knowing they were heavy Clinton donor's...And the DOJ was crickets. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

As predicted...

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-wants-a-normal-person-for-president-2024-election-2023-4

 

Elon Musk says he wants a 'normal person' for president in 2024 whose values are 'smack in the middle of the country'

 

dude your are babbling BS again......You should vote for Elon........ha ha ha ha

 

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22 hours ago, Boat said:

The China Sea problem with China directly threatens US allies on the China Sea more than the US. The threats against Taiwan are the same deal. Those countries have to act in unison with the help of the US because they are for to small to act independently. Besides China is the aggressor here. Another example, You can’t create islands then claim fishing rights and move in 100’s of boats. That gets the locals excited. 

BREAKING NEWS! BREAKing NEWs!!

According to a meeting in EU, the problem there essentially is

a) china is assumed no longer interested in its policy of ONE COUNTRY TWO administrative states. Or, 

b) Taiwan is seeking independence..

The speaker was requesting new direction from EU in approaching it.

A cult kid made a summary:

" So.......

If the first assumption is not true. Then,  the second is the possibility, right? Could we safely deduce that Taiwan is seeking independence?

Billions of military equipments have been purchased. Taiwan seems planning an attack on China with those, in order to show their determination and decision in becoming independence. The decision is back by US, EU, and a few other countries.... "

'o'  'O'

 

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18 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Below would be the source of a great deal of anxiety. The US may well have experienced a very sophisticated coup..The repercussions are just beginning.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/russia-case-against-trump-was-a-shocking-conspiracy-that-continues-today/

 

seems like quite the over exaggeration:

From The AP:

A special prosecutor found that the FBI rushed into its investigation of ties between Russia and Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign and relied too much on raw and unconfirmed intelligence as he concluded a four-year probe that fell far short of the former president’s prediction that the “crime of the century” would be uncovered.

The report Monday from special counsel John Durham represents the long-awaited culmination of an investigation that Trump and allies had claimed would expose massive wrongdoing by law enforcement and intelligence officials. Instead, Durham’s investigation delivered underwhelming results, with prosecutors securing a guilty plea from a little-known FBI employee but losing the only two criminal cases they took to trial.

 

 

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1 hour ago, surrept33 said:

seems like quite the over exaggeration:

If that is your perception so be it. In fact it would foolish to assume there are many who share that same point of view. 

Over the next year I can assure you there will be quite lively discussions, additional hearings..Perhaps riots in the streets once again. It will be quite a time in US history.

Grab some popcorn it will be extraordinary...

 

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36 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

If that is your perception so be it. In fact it would foolish to assume there are many who share that same point of view. 

Over the next year I can assure you there will be quite lively discussions, additional hearings..Perhaps riots in the streets once again. It will be quite a time in US history.

Grab some popcorn it will be extraordinary...

 

Mueller Report: 34 indictments. 8 guilty. 1 case dismissed. 26 at large

Durham Report: 3 indictments. 1 guilty. 2 acquitted.

The fact is that Durham came up with a big fat zero when it comes to finding errors, let alone crimes. His biggest finding was that the FBI should have opened a "preliminary investigation" instead of a "full investigation". Seeing as how they were investigating someone well known as a compulsive bullshitter and liar for decades (at least in the NY media), not really a surprise.

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15 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

Mueller Report: 34 indictments. 8 guilty. 1 case dismissed. 26 at large

Durham Report: 3 indictments. 1 guilty. 2 acquitted.

The fact is that Durham came up with a big fat zero when it comes to finding errors, let alone crimes. His biggest finding was that the FBI should have opened a "preliminary investigation" instead of a "full investigation". Seeing as how they were investigating someone well known as a compulsive bullshitter and liar for decades (at least in the NY media), not really a surprise.

Great point...all that money...all that time...all the damage and public discourse founded on lies and obfuscation....Time will sort this out..

Death by a thousand cuts may bring on a whole new meaning. Where this all ends is the million dollar question.

Edited May 18, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

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20 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Great point...all that money...all that time...all the damage and public discourse founded on lies and obfuscation....Time will sort this out..

Death by a thousand cuts may bring on a whole new meaning. Where this all ends is the million dollar question.

Time will sort this out??? it did and it found that the Durham investigation was a complete failure......

Time will sort this out....you keep hoping Durham will come up with anything....ha ha ha...its over Mr Magoo

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4 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Great point...all that money...all that time...all the damage and public discourse founded on lies and obfuscation....Time will sort this out..

Death by a thousand cuts may bring on a whole new meaning. Where this all ends is the million dollar question.

Isn’t it pretty much standard practice to investigate the other party. Don’t acted so shocked. Lol How many Trump folks in jail? Fox pays 3/4 billion for advancing Coup behavior? And why haven’t you busted Hunter yet? Was it the failure of the Hilary investigation that lasted years? How about the Mushroom clouds that Iraq failed to produce. The fact they all lie and cheat don’t make the skys cleaner. That’s why I’m here. 

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13 minutes ago, Boat said:

That’s why I’m here. 

 

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On 5/17/2023 at 1:37 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

Yes lovely little mouse trap was it not? A sitting judge allowing jurors knowing they were heavy Clinton donor's...And the DOJ was crickets. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

As predicted...

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-wants-a-normal-person-for-president-2024-election-2023-4

 

Elon Musk says he wants a 'normal person' for president in 2024 whose values are 'smack in the middle of the country'

 

Perhaps Elon Musk can buy one. 

Others have in the past.

He can certainly afford it.

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by turbguy

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On 5/18/2023 at 2:13 AM, specinho said:

BREAKING NEWS! BREAKing NEWs!!

According to a meeting in EU, the problem there essentially is

a) china is assumed no longer interested in its policy of ONE COUNTRY TWO administrative states. Or, 

b) Taiwan is seeking independence..

The speaker was requesting new direction from EU in approaching it.

A cult kid made a summary:

" So.......

If the first assumption is not true. Then,  the second is the possibility, right? Could we safely deduce that Taiwan is seeking independence?

Billions of military equipments have been purchased. Taiwan seems planning an attack on China with those, in order to show their determination and decision in becoming independence. The decision is back by US, EU, and a few other countries.... "

'o'  'O'

 

Let me repeat. Claiming the South China Sea, messing with fishing rights and Fossil Fuel rights, got many countries drawing a line in the sand. Nobody wanted to be the next Hong Kong. After that came Taiwan and Covid, the Austraila trade mess so Trump made a mess. This has been going on back to early Obama years. The commitment to disagree keeps growing. But like I said a decade ago. US and allies are the only market in town. If China loses that trade they are back to ox and cart. Farming by hand is in. 

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19 hours ago, turbguy said:

Perhaps Elon Musk can buy one. 

Others have in the past.

He can certainly afford it.

 

Ahh a agreement..tread carefully something is afoot! 

Between Bezos, Bloomberg and Zuckerberg  I'd be willing to make a small wager the amounts exceeded 5 billion... Can you imagine one of the above dumped 2 billion In a attempt to become the US President!

Edited May 24, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

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6 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ahh a agreement..tread carefully something is afoot! 

Between Bezos, Bloomberg and Zuckerberg  I'd be willing to make a small wager the amounts exceeded 5 billion... Can you imagine one of the above dumped 2 billion In a attempt to become the US President!

The buyer better be well aware of who the Vice President is...

That history put a kink in J.P. Morgan's (and others) "success", didn't it?

Edited May 24, 2023 by turbguy

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6 minutes ago, turbguy said:

The buyer better be well aware of who the Vice President is...

That history put a kink in J.P. Morgan's (and others) "success", didn't it?

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Eyes Wide Open

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On 5/24/2023 at 5:28 AM, Boat said:

Let me repeat. Claiming the South China Sea, messing with fishing rights and Fossil Fuel rights, got many countries drawing a line in the sand. Nobody wanted to be the next Hong Kong. After that came Taiwan and Covid, the Austraila trade mess so Trump made a mess. This has been going on back to early Obama years. The commitment to disagree keeps growing. But like I said a decade ago. US and allies are the only market in town. If China loses that trade they are back to ox and cart. Farming by hand is in. 

Details are important, particularly if a little bit more info could make huge difference... Like shown in image attached. 'n'

Starting from cultural reform by Mao, economic reform by Deng, and social reform post Deng, China is going through what the west is going through, except with a lag gap of 50 to 100 years. Owing to the size of country and population, internal problems would always cause headache until they produce grass root leaders care enough to solve. Not ellites, who are too comfortable to care. 

This world is big enough to include not just US and allies. US is silly enough to follow instruction to provoke conflict blindly on its second largest creditor. For money owed and accumulated more generously thinking they are FREE money (money of others) afterall, those elected might sell part of the assets of the country soon...

Those who own the country will have very high costs to improvise after the elected mess all up... 

China, inevitably, copying the footsteps of successful west, like everyone else. Until they are able to stand on their own mind and feet again, backed by several thousands years of historical development, that they will find their own pace and peace.

Or, lost in transition, like everyone else. No need to push them there. They are gliding with crowd of the world, safely.